Tricks that old racers get up to after retirement

[jackiewilson]

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If if only I could post piccies the right way up.
Just in case nobody knows what it is ————it’s one of the first wings I ever saw.
I always believed that James Beard built his VOLARE after seeing this!

[Bob V]

If if only I could post piccies the right way up.
Just in case nobody knows what it is ————it’s one of the first wings I ever saw.
I always believed that James Beard built his VOLARE after seeing this!

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[jackiewilson]

There you go again Bob———-can’t you just send me the instructions on how to.
I-might be crap at piccie posting ———- but I have a faster than a speeding bullet brain, did ya know my claim to fame?..
I TAUGHT SPOCK .!

[jackiewilson]

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Im sure I had a motor when I started out?

[jackiewilson]

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[Bob V]

Im sure I had a motor when I started out?


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[Bob V]

Havasu 69.

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[Bob V]

There you go again Bob———-can’t you just send me the instructions on how to.
I-might be crap at piccie posting ———- but I have a faster than a speeding bullet brain, did ya know my claim to fame?..
I TAUGHT SPOCK .!

Jackie - The way that I have to do it probably would not work on your system, but briefly, this is what I have to do. I copy your picture and paste it on a letter to myself and send it to myself. Then when I open the picture, I save it to my "saved from mail" folder. Then I find it in that folder and left click on it and then right click on it, which will give me a drop down menu. In the drop down menu I click "edit" which will allow me to rotate the picture and increase it in size if needed. Then I save it. Then when I go back to S & F, I import that revised picture. There you have it.

[jackiewilson]

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Bingo, well it worked that time Bob———— buggered if I know if it was luck or good instructions. May have to try it a few times before I start crowing.
Bill Allen ( I think) and I set off from Oshkosh to Havasu in a pick up truck with an extra fifty gallon Mercury tank strapped to the back. This was to reduce fuel stops along the way.
Ridgell left twenty minutes before we did, driving alone and in an old truck that carried the fuel rig for the team. We finally caught up with him at an Indian Trading Post somewhere in Arizona. some 2,500 miles down the road, we were running 95—100 most the time ! He bought that knitted jacket, so of course I had to buy one too. ———- My wife wore that damn coat for the next twenty years!

[powerabout]

Hi Jackie
Have you heard your old buddy from out my way Kay Marshall has hurt her back in a F1( ish) race in Thailand
Steering failure?
https://www.gofundme.com/kay-marshall-f1-powerboat-driver

[ron54]

Has anyone seen Jackie ???

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" Somebody " said, this is what happens when a Yorkshireman loses a penny down in the footwell! :)

[jackiewilson]

Hi Jackie
Have you heard your old buddy from out my way Kay Marshall has hurt her back in a F1( ish) race in Thailand
Steering failure?
https://www.gofundme.com/kay-marshall-f1-powerboat-driver

So sorry to hear about Kay’s accident Pilgrim———poor old Micks going through the wringer yet again.
She always said she’d know when it was time to hang up her gloves ! Don’t need reminding of the horrendous cost of hospital fees after a powerboat accident. Been there
Incredible to think Keikhaefer paid all the medical and insurance for all his drivers all the time

[powerabout]

they are not current F1 boats so no floatation bag and I dont think they use full time air either and old fashion lid that just falls off under any force.
it may well of been done like that years ago but why risk that now?

[jackiewilson]

they are not current F1 boats so no floatation bag and I dont think they use full time air either and old fashion lid that just falls off under any force.
it may well of been done like that years ago but why risk that now?

Pilgrim———-it’s a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t!
I have not kept up with F1 racing since I walked away from it 25 years ago———I do not know the current rules and regs. Maybe they run “vintage F1 or something like that.
Several years ago Mark informed me that a current F1 ———rigged and ready to take the motor was in the region of $100~000 US ( one hundred thousand dollars).
Jesus wept———unless you got Sony or ICI sponsor ship there’s no way your racing F1 any more, so maybe some bright spark thought of a way to keep the old rigs running?
Im afraid boat racers were always totally fearless and illogical, with the occasional screw loose.
im sure you must have heard the old adage “ TIS BETTER TO HAVE LOVED AND LOST——-THAN NEVER TO HAVE LOVED AT ALL”———————-same thing with boat racing.

[jackiewilson]

Day started off well——— Quick trip to Bognor Regis Hospital——no problem!
Then over to Chichester Hospital———today’s the day I find out just what the hells wrong with me and what the conclusions are.——-wrong——— They gave me my driving license back.
Im more confused than I’ve ever been. Only good news I can tell you is, I feel a lot better.
So, on the whole it’s not been a bad day.
Intend tohave seven hours in the shop tomorrow——— tell you if I make it.

[jackiewilson]

Already had four hours in the shop !
Got a little problem here Pilgrim———-would appear Kay Marshall threw her boat out of the park and has left Mick a bit of an expensive dilemma————-how to get her from a hospital in Thailand——-back home to Australia ! Now I’ve had this dilemma before and have learned one thing from the experience.
There is no cheap way out of this————- it’s going to cost an arm and a leg with a mortgage thrown in to boot, just to get her home. That does not take into account the doctors, surgeons and ambulance fees!
How about I make one of my better “concepts” and stick it up for auction ( the get Kay Home trophy )
This-is where you come in Pilgrim————— do I make a tunnel boat or an offshore ?
I can tell you that more people want an offshore concept than a circuit.
You might have to call in Little Kevin West to help you on this———- he’s a lousy hairdresser, but he’s got a lovely wife in ROZ.
Keep me in the loop as they say these days——— we just used to day “Catch you later”.

[powerabout]

Already had four hours in the shop !
Got a little problem here Pilgrim———-would appear Kay Marshall threw her boat out of the park and has left Mick a bit of an expensive dilemma————-how to get her from a hospital in Thailand——-back home to Australia ! Now I’ve had this dilemma before and have learned one thing from the experience.
There is no cheap way out of this————- it’s going to cost an arm and a leg with a mortgage thrown in to boot, just to get her home. That does not take into account the doctors, surgeons and ambulance fees!
How about I make one of my better “concepts” and stick it up for auction ( the get Kay Home trophy )
This-is where you come in Pilgrim————— do I make a tunnel boat or an offshore ?
I can tell you that more people want an offshore concept than a circuit.
You might have to call in Little Kevin West to help you on this———- he’s a lousy hairdresser, but he’s got a lovely wife in ROZ.
Keep me in the loop as they say these days——— we just used to day “Catch you later”.
50 50 re offshore versus tunnel boat interest in OZ I would guess ( ski racing bigger than both)
How would you feel if you loaned someone a boat and the steering failed and hurt the driver....

[jackiewilson]

50 50 re offshore versus tunnel boat interest in OZ I would guess ( ski racing bigger then both)
How would you feel if you loaned someone a boat and the steering failed and hurt the driver....
Ok, I got a “Lucas” offshore mounted on glass———ready to ship. A fairly respectable, not yet finished pickle———another two days and it’ll be done . Your choice.
Trying to get Roy Cooper to do the same thing here
Sorry Pilgrim———- if someone borrowed a boat of mine, then it’s their job to make sure it’s fit to race. You do pre flight check——-its done throughout the world in every motorised sport. Final check should be done by crew chief———then the pilot.
Kay is “ONE OF US”——-

[jackiewilson]

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There ya go Pilgrim————see what you can do with’em ? Where do want em sent?
still got a fair bit to do on the pickle———- but, I’m getting there!

[jackiewilson]

Well Pilgrim, I have to tell you———-you are noticeable by your absence. By that, I gather you got nowhere in getting hold of Kevin West, or anyone else who’s willing to take on the task of auctioning off one or two concepts to get Kay Marshall Home.
Not to worry, I got one or two cogs turning———- let’s see what happens in this neck of the woods once folk get their rear in gear!
Never did get back in the shop yesterday afternoon———— spirit was willing, but the body wasn’t.
Same thing today——— after three hours in the morning——- had nothing left for the afternoon.
Managed to get the tunnel mounted and half finish the motor. Will complete the job in the morning!
Once it’s done, take your pick, then we’ll get the ball rolling.

[powerabout]

Sorry but I dont know a Kevin West
Oz or the USA is the place to do this I would guess?

[jackiewilson]

Sorry Pilgrim—— I just did something I almost never do——- “ASSUME”.
Kevin West has been around since roman times————especially F1 boats. Enthusiastic to the point of stupidity, but his hearts in the right place. I’ll get hold of him and send him the concept
i think Noel Scott has a trophy that could be Auctioned off in the USA!
Ill get my daughters to arrange another one for sale over here in England———— time to get the ball rolling and see if we can get Kay Marshall Home after her F1 accident in Thailand.

[jackiewilson]

Sorry Pilgrim—— I just did something I almost never do——- “ASSUME”.
Kevin West has been around since roman times————especially F1 boats. Enthusiastic to the point of stupidity, but his hearts in the right place. I’ll get hold of him and send him the concept
i think Noel Scott has a trophy that could be Auctioned off in the USA!
Ill get my daughters to arrange another one for sale over here in England———— time to get the ball rolling and see if we can get Kay Marshall Home after her F1 accident in Thailand.

Second thoughts Pilgrim———-Fi boat racing in Singapore has always been well supported——— methinks you could raise a tidy sum if I sent you an F1 boat. Not telling you how to suck eggs, but you seem to be the dogs cajones on a puter——- maybe you could set up a web site or something like that?

[jackiewilson]

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Been like shelling peas today————-Only spent a couple of hours in the shop, but they were good hours. Everything’s polished up, ***** and span, so to speak.
Take your pick Pilgrim ——-you get to pick first!

[AZMIDLYF]

Jackie, here is a link to a Go-Fund-Me page for her...
https://www.gofundme.com/kay-marshall-f1-powerboat-driver

[jackiewilson]

Jackie, here is a link to a Go-Fund-Me page for her...
https://www.gofundme.com/kay-marshall-f1-powerboat-driver

Well Midlife that’s going to make things interesting————in truth Kay has been around a long time.
Ive watched her race worldwide including Australia. She and husband Mick are a well respected pair in the powerboat world.
Seemed like she needed a chuck——— all I’ve done is offered a hand.
So if it’s ok, I’ll just go ahead and strew a few “concepts” around the globe and see which way the cookie crumbles.
My sainted mother used to tell me——- you can’t get blood out of a stone! ———but again, she told me I never took any notice of what she said anyway.

When I started FONDA ——— Parkinson came up with the idea. Of putting 5 percent of the total prize money into a drivers accident and injury fund. Problem was, we never had an accident in the first two years, the fund was hucking Fuge————upshot of this was———- drivers had a meeting and voted to cash it all in and share the cash out amongst themselves.. Stupid or what ?
To this day, I have never met a “SMART” powerboat driver——— if he was smart, he never would have stepped into a boat.

[AZMIDLYF]

Not intended to dissuade you from doing what you are doing Jackie. I was only showing you that she is also getting some help in other ways too. :thumbsup: All the best...

[powerabout]

Second thoughts Pilgrim———-Fi boat racing in Singapore has always been well supported——— methinks you could raise a tidy sum if I sent you an F1 boat. Not telling you how to suck eggs, but you seem to be the dogs cajones on a puter——- maybe you could set up a web site or something like that?
BUT, the last 2 F1 races left a large bill the Gov had to fix as 2 crooks involved and then the Nations Cup event the promoter did a runner in the middle of it and left lots of bills ( she was involved in previous scam)
I am too scared to say F1 in Singapore. Singapore no longer UIM member
Self funded racing with no promoter is where I am trying to restart racing.

I can see lots of Racers in OZ are giving to the GO fund me including me.

[jackiewilson]

BUT, the last 2 F1 races left a large bill the Gov had to fix as 2 crooks involved and then the Nations Cup event the promoter did a runner in the middle of it and left lots of bills ( she was involved in previous scam)
I am too scared to say F1 in Singapore. Singapore no longer UIM member
Self funded racing with no promoter is where I am trying to restart racing.

I can see lots of Racers in OZ are giving to the GO fund me including me.

ok Pilgrim———- I hear you. FONDA raced many years in Singapore with tremendous success———- never had a problem. Mind you, we never tried to shaft them either. Must have been after I walked away———- that was when Velden and SAN Germano and the UIM took over the series.
Sounds like you got an uphill struggle.
Dont need a promoter——— but you will need cash———lots of it———- racing boats is an expensive affair.

[jackiewilson]

Not intended to dissuade you from doing what you are doing Jackie. I was only showing you that she is also getting some help in other ways too. :thumbsup: All the best...

Never Thought for a moment you were my friend, I’m glad people are digging in and helping.

[jackiewilson]

Well, we are up and running————Roy Cooper has offered to set up a website here in England.
Still waiting to hear From Kevin West in Oz———- he’s always been slow.Still, it is the middle of the night right now and Kev is usually in a coma until lunchtime!
Might have to get Mark to help in the USA——— hate to do that to him ——- he has more on his hands than anybody I know at the minute.
Looks like Singapore is a no go area————- Kay raced there many times, but if the government was screwed by F1, small wonder they don’t want to know.
If Duggan was still alive, I could have tried the Emirates————long time since I knew anybody out there though.
If anyone out there has any bright ideas, give me a call !

[jackiewilson]

Had a terrible day———- we have two year old Lizzie staying with us for three days——— her mum is in the Philippines recruiting nurses for the NHS———— dad is away in Hull sorting windows out on a cross channel ferry!
Everything in the gardens lovely————that is until Jilly falls and breaks her right leg ! Called the ambulance that just happened to have three paramedics on board, didn’t take them long to determine she was a hospital job. That was 3:30 pm.——- it’s now 18;00 hrs?
Lifes been a-box of chocolates for the last four hours——— Lizzie is wrapped up in bed and fast asleep.
Me myself finally sat down with a cold beer——- as I said, it’s been a hell of a day, considering I had been put out to pasture many years ago ! The OLD adage comes to mind———A MANS GOT TO DO WHAT A MANS GOT TO DO ———must be fifty years since I changed a nappy( diaper).
Jillys being kept in hospital overnight———— life’s never dull in our house.

[Rotary John]

Hope for a speedy recovery; for both of you. Sounds like the time has come to uncork that bottle, settle back and enjoy the moment. When Jill comes home you will be the lady of the house in addition to your normal chores. Chin up!

[jackiewilson]

Hope for a speedy recovery; for both of you. Sounds like the time has come to uncork that bottle, settle back and enjoy the moment. When Jill comes home you will be the lady of the house in addition to your normal chores. Chin up!

Damn good idea Johnno——- to be honest, I need a dram urgently, turned 9 pm and Liz decided it was time to shed her pyjamas and play with her dollies, why did she decide tonight was going to be the stay awake night.
News from the hospital isn't good——— After x rays they found she’s broken her right Femur, just below the hip joint. Don’t ask me what this means, operation or lengthy stay in hospital seems the obvious, but what the heck do I know?
Tomorrow looks like a good day to open the malt!

[jackiewilson]

Peace reigns, Little Liz finally went to sleep, just hope it stays like that until morning! Truth is, I’m bushed, I need some serious slumberland time, so that’s me goe for today——- tune in tomorrow for a look at the everyday life of the wilson family.

[jackiewilson]

Liz finally went to sleep at 10:45 pm———covered her up with the blanket and hoiked myself to bed.
Kepf the hearing aid in just in case she woke during the night———2am I took the damn thing out, it was whistling and squeezing like a banshee wailer. Luckily, Liz slept right through till 8:15am——-she only woke up when she heard me rattling the pots and pans for breakfast!
Jill was “Nil by mouth” until 5am this morning, when they informed her the operation would not be today. Will know more when I’ve seen her this afternoon.
Bloody good job I got my licence back this week or we would have been up sh-t creek ?
Lizzies mum and dad just collected her. All I have to do is clear up after the tornado !

[Bob V]

Jackie - So sorry to hear the new about Jill. Hope the surgery goes well. Take good care of yourself as she is going to need you when she gets home. As Rotary John pointed out, you will have to assume the role of "lady of the house." Just be sure not to do too good of a job or it may become permanent.

[jackiewilson]

Jackie - So sorry to hear the new about Jill. Hope the surgery goes well. Take good care of yourself as she is going to need you when she gets home. As Rotary John pointed out, you will have to assume the role of "lady of the house." Just be sure not to do too good of a job or it may become permanent.
just discarded my workshop clobber———-her majesty would not be too well pleased if I turned up to the hospital looking like I usually do on a weekday. Only last week she told me if I carried a tin cup in my hand,, and walked the streets of Chichester over the weekend with a placard round my neck saying “IMPOVERISHED BOAT RACER”, I would probably be able to take her up west for her dinner!
just leaving now, looking like the dogs cajones?

[AZMIDLYF]

All the best to you and your wife Jackie.

[jackiewilson]

All the best to you and your wife Jackie.

Many thanks Midlyfe —— Sunday morning and I’m just on my way to see her ! Last night , she needed a pee pee, nurse brings a bed pan———- thought to myself , Wrong !!!! Big mistake——— Jilly does not do “Bedpans”——— now if that had been me, instead of the nurse, I could now be wearing a bedpan as my Sunday hat.
Shes in bed with a busted femur——— but she still has to call the shots——— things have to be done Jilly’s way, so she calls for a cripple racer frame (with chrome wire spokes)——— hoikes herself onto the contraption and bowls herself to the douche room muttering———“it’s only pain”——— nurse looks at me and says. “I said you going to tell her or shall I?
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[jackiewilson]

Nurse said “IMPOSSIBLE “. Sorry bout that.

[Bob V]

How long before Jill can come home?

[jackiewilson]

How long before Jill can come home?
Just had a couple of hours with the boss——— things are looking too good!

if she had her way she would be here now Bob ————-realistically, I would say Wednesday.
She’s already got the fidgets———issuing orders and instructions from her hospital bed————-bit like Al Capone running the mob from his cell, but I shall deny I ever said that.
apparently she’s raced the zimmer down the ward five times already————-going to be hard to keep out of the firing line once she’s back.
May have to rig up a hammock in the workshop and discard the hearing aid !

[jackiewilson]

Oh yes, she’s definitely on the mend————got my full list of instructions——— hairbrush, mirror, make up and razor, sargeant Jill is barking out the orders.
Better make the most of my last days of freedom——— got a feeling the days of me holding the TV control are nearly over.

[jackiewilson]

Oh Craperootle , she’s back !
Need to clear the dishes———-vacuum the whole house——— empty the dishwasher———-take out the garbage———- fill the cats bowl———make the bed. Told the driver to go round the block a couple of times.
Just not cricket sending her home without warning.
Try and fill you in later in the week———- they just unloaded the Zimmer and the cripple crapper, excreta about To hit the whirlygig.

[jackiewilson]

Right, I tell you now, in all honesty————when and if, your wife ever breaks a leg, for God’s sake, not under any circumstances, allow her to come home with a cripple cart or a Zimmer frame! Should have told the ambulance driver to drop her off at Lands End—- or the outer Hebrides.
Jilly has a pain threshold of, on a scale of 1—-10, 157. She dumps all the pain onto me.
48 hours on and I still haven’t had five minutes to myself————the dot-dot is out of bounds.
If she had a private nurse or a care taker they would have been out of here after two hours, wild horses and £500 an hour would not have kept them !
Tried to buy myself a couple of hours at the local clock shop——— he was sold out. Went on line but I couldn’t buy even ten minutes——-At any price ! Seems your allowance of 24 hours a day is all you get and should be enough——— trouble is, nobody told her majesty!
Was nowhere near this tired after the Paris Six Hours or the Parker Seven.
Am seriously looking to trade her in for a newer model.
She herself is sound asleep———- it won’t last———if you don’t hear from me ,not to worry, I’m otherwise engaged!

[Bob V]

--if you don’t hear from me ,not to worry, I’m otherwise engaged!

Glad to hear that you are OK. When you failed to post yesterday, I was afraid that perhaps you had gotten pinned under the cripple crapper....:eek:

[jackiewilson]

Glad to hear that you are OK. When you failed to post yesterday, I was afraid that perhaps you had gotten pinned under the cripple crapper....:eek:
Her Royal Highness Decided that using the cripple crapper was beneath her, (so to speak)———— flat refused to discuss the activity———-it goes back to the hospital———- brand new and untouched by human hand !
comes a time in every mans life when there’s only one thing that will do the job. That time came yesterday around 7:00pm.
Most of you will have heard of “ROTORY JOHN” SHELDON—————(think he had something to do with a particular thorn in Mercury’s flank———-the Wankel)——-to cut to the chase, I made him a concept of a Johnson Rotory, he asked me how much I wanted for it? ——I told him he didn’t have enough money to buy it ! And so it went on ———- about a month ago, I received a very exotic parcel delivered by FedEx. Upon opening the said parcel, I was amazed and delighted to find a bottle of Delmore fifteen year old single malt whiskey.
I had decided to open it at Christmas——but yesterday, there were “Mitigating Circumstances”———-nothing else could have done the trick,
Johnno, I have to tell you, swear to God on a stack of bibles, and My sainted mothers life———the nectar I savoured out of the bottle with the silver stags head, was far and away, the best, and most exciting malt that ever crossed my lips———- and there’s been quite a few, including a tour of the Scottish highlands distilleries!
It was there when I needed it most———-thank you Johnno.

[jackiewilson]

Never realised what a great troublefree and uncomplicated existence I had until somebody pissed all over it from a dizzy height in the summer of 2017.
I was as content as a chimp in a banana tree——— living in my own little cocoon, sheltered from the realities of life, trundling along in the Rolls Canardly in great comfort and style——-with a touch of “Panache” chucked in for good measure. Really thought I was strolling down the Ritz Road to retirement ————always had the shop if I got bored, nice garden with loungers and a Sunbrella——— Lexus to take me to wherever. Decent wine cellar and the greatest comfort of all—— her indoors——- her majesty——— the kitchen goddess———her who shall be obeyed at all times———- if I’m honest, she’s my greatest possession. Knock her out of the equation and the status quo gets completely out of kilter !

[Rotary John]

I figured the stress of taking care of an ailing wife and being housfrau all at the same time would cause the temptation to become irresistible. What the hell; Christmas is only a few days away anyway. Glad you enjoyed it. It appears to be a dark Scotch as opposed to a light like Ballantine.

[jackiewilson]

I figured the stress of taking care of an ailing wife and being housfrau all at the same time would cause the temptation to become irresistible. What the hell; Christmas is only a few days away anyway. Glad you enjoyed it. It appears to be a dark Scotch as opposed to a light like Ballantine.

NO,NO,NO Johnno———you cannot say it’s a dark scotch as opposed to alight like “Ballantine” which is a cooking whusky.
Its like comparing a brass farthing to a Roman Eagle or a Spanish Dabloon or a Victorian Sovereign.

You caress the bottle —— which in itself is the work of a Scottish “Artiste”——— gaze in wonderment at the magnificent head of silver horns adorning the beast known as the monarch of the glen.
Gently remove the lead seal and discard, before softly turning the cork stopper, allowing the gentle taste bud teasing aromas to infuse the senses with the ancient craft of one of the finest distillers ever known on earth.
Savour the tantalising mystical scents that invade the mind and body——— herbs, spices, fruit and long forgotten flavours blend perfectly with the smoke, peat and oak, a hint of orange and maybe mint or rosemary, is that cocoa or chocolate that’s drifting about in there ——-
Then there’s the colour, where did that come from, was it the casks from Portugal that held port for twenty years? Or the French oak Brandy barrels ? Imagine the deepest golden brown of a 500 year old piece of furniture that was polished every day until you can see through the patina and you’re beginning to understand what you are holding?
Many years ago my friend Runo Cronström (an Admiral in the Swedish Navy), presented me with a pair of the most wonderful Swedish crystal whiskey glasses I have ever seen———— perfect companion for a perfect appellation.
No, tonight I did not allow myself to indulge in this most treasured brew.
Tomorrow maybe a different story——- one things for sure, It’s just for me !

[Rotary John]

ENJOY. My only regret is I can't sit there with you and share our lies.

[jackiewilson]

ENJOY. My only regret is I can't sit there with you and share our lies.

One day my friend ! I have made it clear that come hell or high water I shall be attending the 2018 November OFF meeting——— wherever it’s held. As you so rightly say, we shall see who claims the title, powerboatings greatest liar ?

[jackiewilson]

Mornings are the worst when you got an angry female with a zimmer, hell bent on taking a shower in my cubicle—— because it’s better than the one she has in the bath. First thing is to alter the settings as it’s far too hot and she can’t understand why I use that temperature in the first place . Then it’s take the showerhead and rinse my back———make sure there’s no soap left——- dry my back——— you can stop that——- I can reach there myself .
Was a time when she enjoyed that sort of thing——-before she became EVA BRAUN.
Hospital visit this afternoon ———— with a bit of luck, they’ll keep her in for observation?

[FUJIMO]

mornings are the worst when you got an angry female with a zimmer, hell bent on taking a shower in my cubicle—— because it’s better than the one she has in the bath. First thing is to alter the settings as it’s far too hot and she can’t understand why i use that temperature in the first place . Then it’s take the showerhead and rinse my back———make sure there’s no soap left——- dry my back——— you can stop that——- i can reach there myself .
Was a time when she enjoyed that sort of thing——-before she became eva braun.
Hospital visit this afternoon ———— with a bit of luck, they’ll keep her in for observation?
...lol...:smiletest:

[ron54]

[QUOTE=jackiewilson;3005972]Mornings are the worst when you got an angry female with a zimmer, hell bent on taking a shower in my cubicle—— because it’s better than the one she has in the bath. First thing is to alter the settings as it’s far too hot and she can’t understand why I use that temperature in the first place . Then it’s take the showerhead and rinse my back———make sure there’s no soap left——- dry my back——— you can stop that——- I can reach there myself .
Was a time when she enjoyed that sort of thing——-before she became EVA BRAUN.
Hospital visit this afternoon ———— with a bit of luck, they’ll keep her in for observation?[/QUOTE


The worst maybe yet to come...........wait till she starts saying " STOP LOOKING" then you'll have to do it with your peepers closed...

[jackiewilson]

Yes!!! The zimmers gone and been replaced by a pair of cripple sticks———— The zimmer racer had her first afternoon in physio——— shouldn’t be long before the pair of sticks are replaced by a single broomstick.

[Bob V]

I am sure that a solitary day in the shop is looking pretty good right about now...:eek:

[jackiewilson]

I am sure that a solitary day in the shop is looking pretty good right about now...:eek:
Now that rings a bell of something that happened in my previous life———round about the time I was happy ? Was that really so long ago?

[jackiewilson]

Saturday !!!——— the weekend——- car boot sale, forage at the scrap yard——- bit of rugby on the Telly——- Final Score———- maybe a car race! It all used to happen on a Saturday,——— hell of a job to fit a Saturday in these days, —— what with the shop and my concepts. Wonder where that went?
Never enough time to fit all the happenings in——— no wonder I was NEVER Poorlie——— couldn’t find the time, my life was too ful of otherstuff. Don’t even have time to chuck insults at that Squirt Serra or get on line with the old farts and swop “fact and fiction” stories any more.
Never even looked in the shop once this week——- maybe next week.

[jackiewilson]

haven’t been whacked with a crutch yet—— only because I kept at least six foot away at all times. No, I haven’t done The Nah, Na, Nan na Na, Na, yet——— need to be outside in clear space and non reachable, feeling a lot braver than I do at the minute.
The Boss is in bed reading at the moment——- I’ll give her a couple of hours to settle down, then I’ll call it a day.

[powerabout]

And she has never picked up your tablet and read scream and fly?

[jackiewilson]

And she has never picked up your tablet and read scream and fly?

Never ever Pilgrim——— The iPad is mine and mine alone and would be stuck completely up my rectum perchance she should ever come across it.
However, the Duchess does have her very own “Computer room”——- fully equipped with a cinema screen sized APPLEMAC, which is hers alone ———— she plays it like Paderewski on a piano, it also doubles as the “Art Room” and is where she does her painting.
Why on earth would she need to peruse my iPad Pro?

[jackiewilson]

Been perusing the “Missing Marathons” thread——-that brought back memories I can tell you.
Loved marathon racing best———— I would travel halfway across the world to take part in one. Brought out ALL the boatracers——— the factories and their teams——— wealthy owners———ambitious amateurs——- cranks and crazies with stupid futuristic equipment that didn’t have a snowballs chance in hell———- yet they came, they gathered, they competed, they had fun!

my own view on a Marathon is ——- a long distance boat race over an extended period of time !
Pie, Elsinore 500 ————-Paris 6 Hours——— Berlin 6 Hours———- Amsterdam 3 Hours———- Milan 3 Hours——- Rouen 24 Hours——— Chasewater 24 Hours —— and the Chasewater 500. Parker and Havasu

Offshore had its own set of Marathons, Miami-Nassau——- Cowes Torquay——- , London Monte Carlo to mention just a few.
I don’t ever remember the bitching———-only the help and camaraderie that was always there ——hells teeth, I can remember selling the bedroom furniture to raise enough dinero to go to Paris one year.
Here I am today, fifty years on, remembering the most exciting times of my life——— along with some of the saddest memories.
First time I ever met Lynne and Billy Seebold was Havasu ‘69 —— he turned up in a black Caddi tugging a Jones Tunnel called “OLD BLUE” ——- think he’d just come back from honemooning in Mexico.
Parked next to him was Art Kennedy with a green Jones——- his dad was crew chief.
Renato and the Rasinis ( who I’d known for years) were there.
Guy in a Boston with a little motor and a lunch box (Cooney I think—— he finished the race) .
Close to one hundred boats started that race. That was the size of the field in most Marathons in those long ago days.
Yet here we are with more boats being produced than ever————-more guys (and girls) wanting to race than ever before and what do we have—————- I’ll tell you what we have, all over the world!!!

In circuit racing————- doesn’t matter which country or continent it’s happening———- the format is the same————- three or four heats, of three to ten laps.?

Offshore racing the same—————- bigger boats, bigger engines, more noise———- for every bit of ten minutes (if you’re lucky) —————— Super boats have as many as six at a time, with thousands of horsepower ————sometimes we have as many as two actually racing at the finish.

Key West is the classic example of this———— like a circus and fairground rolled into one——- great spectacle ! Pity the racing doesn’t reach the same standard of excellence,

Its chucking it down outside———— I had a full battery on the iPad ———- and I was generally pissed off at the world————- thought I might share it with you——— enjoy the rest of your weekend !

[jackiewilson]

Well——— seems like nobody agrees or disagrees!

[GENE LANHAM]

Been perusing the “Missing Marathons” thread——-that brought back memories I can tell you.
Loved marathon racing best———— I would travel halfway across the world to take part in one. Brought out ALL the boatracers——— the factories and their teams——— wealthy owners———ambitious amateurs——- cranks and crazies with stupid futuristic equipment that didn’t have a snowballs chance in hell———- yet they came, they gathered, they competed, they had fun!


enjoy the rest of your weekend !

Jackie--it must be and 'Age Related' passion. And you and I are probably setting records in that class.

I was lucky to live in South Florida, the Marathon Capital of The World'?? Gold Coast--PHYC--Sandy Shoes--Marin Stadium--Six Hour--Nine Hour--Roaring 100--Bahamas 500--Key West- Miami/Nassau--sure i've skipped some--and lucky to have been able to participate in them all--going back 64 years!!

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[jackiewilson]

Jackie--it must be and 'Age Related' passion. And you and I are probably setting records in that class.

I was lucky to live in South Florida, the Marathon Capital of The World'?? Gold Coast--PHYC--Sandy Shoes--Marin Stadium--Six Hour--Nine Hour--Roaring 100--Bahamas 500--Key West- Miami/Nassau--sure i've skipped some--and lucky to have been able to participate in them all--going back 64 years!!

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Isnt it great to know we were there at the very beginning Gene————- When I first read “SPEED N SPRAY “I knew I had to get to America somehow and get involved in all the stuff I only read about.
Vapour Trails and the very weird MISTER RICKIE———- Mouth of the South——- Walt Yarborough———— Sirois, Pruett, Rocky Aokl, Jim Hauenstien, The Kramer’s——Rolla, Scottie, Molinari, Seebold, Velden The Rasinis, Ridgell,Duckworth plus hundreds more that made up the history of powerboat racing.
We had lots of dark and devious characters in powerboating in the the UK——- was quick to realise they were in abundance in the USA————— but that’s all for a later day.

[jackiewilson]

So, the question begs—————— since the beginning of the annals of powerboating, there were “MARATHONS” —— where did they all go to? and why have we deteriorated to nothing but ten minutes heats in every class of the sport.
Surely it can’t be that motors are not reliable any more———- dammit, all you have to do, is keep em off the limit————- outboards and inboards with today’s technology should last forever.
Hells teeth———- I remember the claims the only reason the wankel broke was because the rotor wore out ———— but with today’s know how, it shouldn’t be any problem.

There you go Mercury———— if you want to make a name for yourself, simply make a reliable Rotory that lasts forever ?

[powerabout]

If a rotary can survive LeMans 24hr......

[jackiewilson]

If a rotary can survive LeMans 24hr......

So why did it only survive the one three hour boat race race Pilgrim ?
Maybe they turned the wick down a tad at Le Mans ?

[powerabout]

OMC who had about 300hp then 20+years later Mazda had about 700hp, ( I'm sure lots of work done by OMC helped) helped lots by digital EFI and computer controlled induction tuning etc etc.
I wonder how much Mazda spent, masses of engineers and huge computers running CFD etc?
1970's to 90's electronics allowed huge jumps in engine HP
Computer simulation allowed huge jumps in design before you build it

PS they are still working on it

or 3 x Mazda 787 engines ish
http://autoweek.com/article/car-life/12-rotor-wankel-engine-will-melt-your-brain

[jackiewilson]

OMC who had about 300hp then 20+years later Mazda had about 700hp, ( I'm sure lots of work done by OMC helped) helped lots by digital EFI and computer controlled induction tuning etc etc.
I wonder how much Mazda spent, masses of engineers and huge computers running CFD etc?
1970's to 90's electronics allowed huge jumps in engine HP
Computer simulation allowed huge jumps in design before you build it

PS they are still working on it

or 3 x Mazda 787 engines ish
http://autoweek.com/article/car-life/12-rotor-wankel-engine-will-melt-your-brain

Find the flaw and your home and dry.

[powerabout]

As a race engine, i cant see a flaw.
In production use, it didnt have any great jump on piston engines ( produced more power for less weight) and just when it became reliable fuel consumption and emissions became an issue.

[fichrman2]

Find the flaw and your home and dry.

They wore the apex seals out- even though one could overcome that today- they are not very emissions friendly , sadly a factor in todays world.

[jackiewilson]

As a race engine, i cant see a flaw.
In production use, it didnt have any great jump on piston engines ( produced more power for less weight) and just when it became reliable fuel consumption and emissions became an issue.

Thats the trouble with Everyone involved with the Rotory as a race engine————-they couldn’t SEE a flaw.! Didn’t mean it never had one. If it had been flawless from day one, that would have been the way to go, but it wasn’t.
Greatest engineering companies throughout the world have tried and chucked in the towel.
Rolls Royce———-Daimler Benz————the Japs————- the chinks———- the Yanks, Uncle Tom Colby and all. It’s been well over a hundred years since it’s inception and I still don’t see production lines humming with product.
Three turning parts only———- that’s what the bumph says ! ———what can possibly go wrong———- now to anyone who can answer that, go the spoils and riches.
Turn the revs down———- no stress——- no friction———— no wear———— so what if there’s no performance? It should last————- all the excuses have long been used up Pilgrim!

[Rotary John]

All right old man; settle down or I tell Jill to look at you I-Pad. Have a sip of the horny bottle and relax. The rotary will still be here tomorrow.

[powerabout]

lots of stuff comes and goes and materials and design changes.
in the 80's lots of manufactures tried turbo'd small engines and the turbos didnt last, so how about blowers but not very fuel efficient.
2010+ we have lots of turbo or blower and some with both with lots of technical design changes in them.
Rotaries came out with points and carbs then years alter Mazda built the 787 and won LeMans
Ralph Sarich in OZ built his orbital engine but worked out the injection was the issue so invented that air blown injection.
He had then gone back and did small 3 cyl with computer oiling and fuel, over its lifetime it used less oil than a 4 stroke was when changing it.
Ford jumped in and built a few cars that had long term testing. They did everything better and cheaper but decided the public wouldnt drive a 2 stroke.
Merc are still using his injection system.

[jackiewilson]

All right old man; settle down or I tell Jill to look at you I-Pad. Have a sip of the horny bottle and relax. The rotary will still be here tomorrow.

Johnno——— you ain’t never gonna believe this, but, over the years I have grown quite an affection for the old Rotory————a kind of love/hate thing.
I would give a lot to finally see that old thing up and running like it was supposed to.

I have had a huge slug of the nectar three nights running————- determined to finish it all on my own.

[powerabout]

Here's a little one
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2017/april/norton-rotron-200-bhp-race-bike/

Cant find the big one, Norton I think as lpg powered irrigation pump motors

[jackiewilson]

lots of stuff comes and goes and materials and design changes.
in the 80's lots of manufactures tried turbo'd small engines and the turbos didnt last, so how about blowers but not very fuel efficient.
2010+ we have lots of turbo or blower and some with both with lots of technical design changes in them.
Rotaries came out with points and carbs then years alter Mazda built the 787 and won LeMans
Ralph Sarich in OZ built his orbital engine but worked out the injection was the issue so invented that air blown injection.
He had then gone back and did small 3 cyl with computer oiling and fuel, over its lifetime it used less oil than a 4 stroke was when changing it.
Ford jumped in and built a few cars that had long term testing. They did everything better and cheaper but decided the public wouldnt drive a 2 stroke.
Merc are still using his injection system.

There you go again Pilgrim———- getting all technical on me———- turbos with blowers and two stroke ignition with air blown injection———- even you have to admit that is not “LAYMANS LANGUAGE”. it’s very much smart arse territory by clever folks who understand actualities and not simply theories of.
the Norton Rotory is going back damn near as far as Rotory John

[powerabout]

There you go again Pilgrim———- getting all technical on me———- turbos with blowers and two stroke ignition with air blown injection———- even you have to admit that is not “LAYMANS LANGUAGE”. it’s very much smart arse territory by clever folks who understand actualities and not simply theories of.
the Norton Rotory is going back damn near as far as Rotory John
I mentioned the old irrigation pumps as I believe there are plenty still running if longevity ever came into the discussion....

[Rotary John]

There are still Johnson/Evinrude snowmobiles running that were built in 1973/74. Find them on E-Bay and s/m blogs all the time. Norton in England makes a rotary drone engine that is used by the largest number of drones made.
Jackie; are you trying ton insinuate I'm an old fart?

[jackiewilson]

I mentioned the old irrigation pumps as I believe there are plenty still running if longevity ever came into the discussion....

Ok Pilgrim——— correct me if I’m wrong here, but an irrigation pump sounds the same thing you would have on a jet pump, carrot shaped and slow moving last for ever piece of kit———- bit like a PTO agricultural portable generator, 50 kw @ 1200 rpm———- light up the farm and run all night on a pint of kerosene.

[jackiewilson]

There are still Johnson/Evinrude snowmobiles running that were built in 1973/74. Find them on E-Bay and s/m blogs all the time. Norton in England makes a rotary drone engine that is used by the largest number of drones made.
Jackie; are you trying ton insinuate I'm an old fart?

Old snowmobiles and Nortons posing as drones, in no way constitute Rotories as recognised.
Stop moving the goalposts here Johnno———- all I ask is a simple Rotory, that powers a car, bike, boat, aeroplane or crunchie bar, economically and lasts for more then five minutes without flying to bits. Never thought this was a big ask ?

My old friend Rex White had an RSU 500 Suzuki Rotory that he allowed me to drive once———- reminded me of a sewing machine ——- docile ——- quiet——- old fashioned, thirsty but very nice——— everybody said so.
He left his girlfriend (Jackie) of many years——— she emptied his workshop of all his toys and tools, sold the lot including the finest Snap on tool box for two hundred quid.
Never in this world would I insinuate you were an old fart Johnno———- fact is though——YOU ARE AN OLD FART——— Welcome to the club !

[powerabout]

New Merc 500 rotary outboard

[jackiewilson]

New Merc 500 rotary outboard

Even a dumb asse like me knows that Curtis Wright and old Wilbur make plane engines————- I don’t ever remember any of those three pointed ovoids we were discussing in a previous life being mass produced for flying machines? I could look it up on the dot dot but you’re a lot more fun than a Mac Pro.
Was once daft enough to make an eighteen cylinder Curtis that Sammy James purchased a couple of years back!

[jackiewilson]

Buggered if the gentleman beating the crap out of the Rotor don’t look just like Bob Nordskog ?

[powerabout]

they were for powering gas pumps not irrigation pumps, my bad
Largest wankels ever built by CW
would run 4 years or longer so it says on the web

[John Schubert]

they were for powering gas pumps not irrigation pumps, my bad
Largest wankels ever built by CW
would run 4 years or longer so it says on the web
My father worked at CW & so did Edgar Rose who left Merc had a non compete, went to CW before joining Charlie Strang at OMC. CW had the NA contract for the Wankel rights. Sold some rights to GMC for on the road use in cars & part to OMC for off road use, thus the snowmobile, outboards & never produced useage for the mini race cars that the Delorean brothers were involved with. We did build the cars for them for their amusement parks, each turn designed from a European F1 track, but we bought the wankels from Sachs their original supplier. When Jim Briggs & I went to visit the Deloreans in Michigan, they let us drive a couple of the cars, pretty sweet & fast. Found out after our Demo that they had the governors disconnected so that we would be impressed. We built them in our little plant in Manawa, WI. Project didn't last very long, the Delorean part went "belly up"!

[techteam]

There are more Rotary's out there than you think. It's just a crying shame nobody runs one of John's engines today as it must of been bloody impressive at the time, and would still be today. The "Norton" engines now copied and sold under numerous names still rack up a pretty good living for their companies but in very specialised and low volume applications. As much as I think the Merc V6 is one of the best engines ever, I still love working most days with these amazing little engines. I am not going to die rich but I'll have dirt under my fingernails and am that soaked in kerosene I'll burn for days.

[Rotary John]

My father worked at CW & so did Edgar Rose who left Merc had a non compete, went to CW before joining Charlie Strang at OMC. CW had the NA contract for the Wankel rights. Sold some rights to GMC for on the road use in cars & part to OMC for off road use, thus the snowmobile, outboards & never produced useage for the mini race cars that the Delorean brothers were involved with. We did build the cars for them for their amusement parks, each turn designed from a European F1 track, but we bought the wankels from Sachs their original supplier. When Jim Briggs & I went to visit the Deloreans in Michigan, they let us drive a couple of the cars, pretty sweet & fast. Found out after our Demo that they had the governors disconnected so that we would be impressed. We built them in our little plant in Manawa, WI. Project didn't last very long, the Delorean part went "belly up"!
John: slight correction. The GM agreement with CW had no use restrictions and had a non-share after sighing clause that caused the entire rotary club to fall apart. Prior to GM all info/ patents/ideas were sharable with all members without fees. CW gave away the store thinking GM would create the royalties that hadn't been seen previously. Their thinking Ford, AM. Motors; etc. would follow close behind GM and the need for OMC's potential would be small potatoes. Then the 1974 Iranian oil crises and fuel economy concerns. GM abandoned the rotary but the rest of the club had already fallen apart. I believe the OMC contract was for non-automotive, watercraft and recreational vehicles. Another interesting fact, OMC was the only US company to pay CW a royalty.

[John Schubert]

Some of that I recall after you saying so but you added much more facts about GM. Yes I do remembered the oil/gas debacle.

[jackiewilson]

My father worked at CW & so did Edgar Rose who left Merc had a non compete, went to CW before joining Charlie Strang at OMC. CW had the NA contract for the Wankel rights. Sold some rights to GMC for on the road use in cars & part to OMC for off road use, thus the snowmobile, outboards & never produced useage for the mini race cars that the Delorean brothers were involved with. We did build the cars for them for their amusement parks, each turn designed from a European F1 track, but we bought the wankels from Sachs their original supplier. When Jim Briggs & I went to visit the Deloreans in Michigan, they let us drive a couple of the cars, pretty sweet & fast. Found out after our Demo that they had the governors disconnected so that we would be impressed. We built them in our little plant in Manawa, WI. Project didn't last very long, the Delorean part went "belly up"!

Sod my old britches but there was some heavy skullduggery went on in your neck of the woods.
Our old friend “Peter” was it? promised a whole new economy to the Irish people with the promise of high wages, full employment and La La Land.
De Lorean managed to fleece the Irish government out of more money than the English did throughout history.
Rumour had it at the time the De Lorean Would sport a Wankel engine——— there were big numbers being spoken of here.
In reality, it was probably a production run for Back to the future one.

[Bob V]

Rumour had it at the time the De Lorean Would sport a Wankel engine

Say What ?

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[powerabout]

I read that Norton have several new patents on their rotary and have made a few breakthroughs in fuel consumption and emissions

[techteam]

I would be very surprised if Norton are actually patenting anything or even still working on Rotary engines as their new V4 seems to be how they intend to move forward. Like I said before the name Norton seems to have become a catch all to describe several companies who are working on these engines. UAV Engines was born from the ashes of Norton to provide specialist engines to drone and aviation projects and several talented engineers who worked for Norton and UAV have pursued their own versions and developments for their own or other companies. Other companies somehow "inherited" the original Norton designs and produce very similar engines all based around a common architecture. As much as I would love to see a mainstream rotary engine in the marketplace, like an electric vehicle range extender if the likes of Mazda and Audi decide against it I fear that it will remain a very specialized low volume product.

[powerabout]

I would be very surprised if Norton are actually patenting anything or even still working on Rotary engines as their new V4 seems to be how they intend to move forward. Like I said before the name Norton seems to have become a catch all to describe several companies who are working on these engines. UAV Engines was born from the ashes of Norton to provide specialist engines to drone and aviation projects and several talented engineers who worked for Norton and UAV have pursued their own versions and developments for their own or other companies. Other companies somehow "inherited" the original Norton designs and produce very similar engines all based around a common architecture. As much as I would love to see a mainstream rotary engine in the marketplace, like an electric vehicle range extender if the likes of Mazda and Audi decide against it I fear that it will remain a very specialized low volume product.
Your right its an ex Norton guy
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2017/april/norton-rotron-200-bhp-race-bike/

[jackiewilson]

I would be very surprised if Norton are actually patenting anything or even still working on Rotary engines as their new V4 seems to be how they intend to move forward. Like I said before the name Norton seems to have become a catch all to describe several companies who are working on these engines. UAV Engines was born from the ashes of Norton to provide specialist engines to drone and aviation projects and several talented engineers who worked for Norton and UAV have pursued their own versions and developments for their own or other companies. Other companies somehow "inherited" the original Norton designs and produce very similar engines all based around a common architecture. As much as I would love to see a mainstream rotary engine in the marketplace, like an electric vehicle range extender if the likes of Mazda and Audi decide against it I fear that it will remain a very specialized low volume product.

Thank you the Techteam for clarification on the Rotory situation as it would appear today.
Norton only ever was a manufacturer of old fashioned hand built quality English motor cycles, but since it was sold on, or liquidated, pulverised and pasteurised, the tradename has been kicked from arsehole to breakfast time in association with various products including the wankel. Sometimes it’s in the form of a drone or a sludge pump. Whichever way you look at it, it’s a a far cry from a “Double Knocker”.
I remember seeing UAV filters and oil pumps on the outside of double decker buses with names like—— LEYLAND———AEC——— GUY AND ALBION. Although I can remember the driver and conductor who spun out tickets from a machine that rang a bell every time he twisted the handle, I most certainly do not remember UAV having a lot to do with motorcycles.
Amazing what can get lost in translation and transition———-like Norton ! Ok, so it was “inherited “—-

So my friends the TechTeam——— itwould appear that even today——— there is still no one producing a viable Rotory in any quantity?

[techteam]

Weeeelllll, depends what you consider to mean a decent quantity. More than 500 is still quite a big purchase. Jackie do you mean CAV filters they are different beast.

[jackiewilson]

Weeeelllll, depends what you consider to mean a decent quantity. More than 500 is still quite a big purchase. Jackie do you mean CAV filters they are different beast.

Prabably was CAV (Rotax rings a bell)
Five hundred is not a lot in Fleas, Bees and flying elephants with yellow toenails——— but I’m sure I don’t have to spell it out ,chapter and verse for you of my version of a Rotory prod line.

I got another Q for the team !
Our controversial and cunning friend named after a naughty feline——-“ Felix” the Rotory . was still a snotty nosed kid at the start of WW1, so can hardly be credited with the early aircraft motors that were called Rotories !
These in truth were probably “Radial engines” but nonetheless were called ROTORIES.
My problem is with Felix and his flawed basic design——— there is absolutely nothing about this engine to recommend it above any other basic engine, in any shape or form! End of.
Its no good quoting any single attribute, because it doesn’t come out top of the class in anything, an egg or a housebrick is a better design———- any engine in the world burns less fuel than a Rotory——- a banshee wailer is quiet by comparison———- sooooo we have determined it’s, noisy, heavy, thirsty.
breaks a lot.
There may only be three moving parts——- but the trick appears to be to keep them all moving at the same time before the Big Bang.
Cant help but think, that little bugger Felix gave us a conundrum in the shape of a Rotory to solve.

[Rotary John]

Prabably was CAV (Rotax rings a bell)
Five hundred is not a lot in Fleas, Bees and flying elephants with yellow toenails——— but I’m sure I don’t have to spell it out ,chapter and verse for you of my version of a Rotory prod line.

I got another Q for the team !
Our controversial and cunning friend named after a naughty feline——-“ Felix” the Rotory . was still a snotty nosed kid at the start of WW1, so can hardly be credited with the early aircraft motors that were called Rotories !
These in truth were probably “Radial engines” but nonetheless were called ROTORIES.
My problem is with Felix and his flawed basic design——— there is absolutely nothing about this engine to recommend it above any other basic engine, in any shape or form! End of.
Its no good quoting any single attribute, because it doesn’t come out top of the class in anything, an egg or a housebrick is a better design———- any engine in the world burns less fuel than a Rotory——- a banshee wailer is quiet by comparison———- sooooo we have determined it’s, noisy, heavy, thirsty.
breaks a lot.
There may only be three moving parts——- but the trick appears to be to keep them all moving at the same time before the Big Bang.
Cant help but think, that little bugger Felix gave us a conundrum in the shape of a Rotory to solve.
Jackie: Have another drink and mellow out.

[techteam]

Definitely not heavy Jackie. It's all about power density. Anyway the argument is mute as we'll all be driving electric soon. Imagine new drivers out in electric cars with a 0-60 less than 5seconds.

[jackiewilson]

Came across an interesting stat whilst looking through the dot-dot.

Did you know that the Sopwith Camel with the Bentley nine cylinder radial, burned sixteen pints (2 gallons) of oil every twenty gallons of fuel used ?

Smoky old bastards weren’t they——— if the tree huggers had been around the Somme in 1916 Baron Von Klinkenbottom never would have got off the ground.

Only governments could afford such devices as aeroplanes——- bit like today really——- what’s the cost of each present day fighter ——- five ? Six ? Billion ? Obsolete in five years.

No worries——- drones and hi-def screens with plague like killing powers that can be launched whilst supping a pint at The bar, are the order of today———-hey ho says Rolly.

[jackiewilson]

Definitely not heavy Jackie. It's all about power density. Anyway the argument is mute as we'll all be driving electric soon. Imagine new drivers out in electric cars with a 0-60 less than 5seconds.

So where the hell are we headed ?my technical friends.
No point in electric power of o——60 in 2secs, it would be like ascending the Empire State Building————except horizontal ? lift interiors optional with Bose implants———- could be we’ll all be so fat in the future we won’t need upholstery.
Maybe we’ll be vacuum packed for travelling?
Glad I lived when I did———— I was the last of the lucky ones——— did everything——-had everything, Never wanted for anything.
Had the boats, had the cars, and the girls———aren’t they still the most beautiful of God’s creations!
I ask you———could it ever have gotten any better than this?

[Bob V]

Had the boats, had the cars, and the girls———aren’t they still the most beautiful of God’s creations!
I ask you———could it ever have gotten any better than this?

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[powerabout]

when the sound was changed in F1 it lost lots of fans
Silent racing is not going to be big

[rckid74]

There are more Rotary's out there than you think. It's just a crying shame nobody runs one of John's engines today as it must of been bloody impressive at the time, and would still be today. The "Norton" engines now copied and sold under numerous names still rack up a pretty good living for their companies but in very specialised and low volume applications. As much as I think the Merc V6 is one of the best engines ever, I still love working most days with these amazing little engines. I am not going to die rich but I'll have dirt under my fingernails and am that soaked in kerosene I'll burn for days.
Thanx techteam, you made my day!!

[techteam]

Thanx techteam, you made my day!!

Your welcome, many who know me would claim I rarely tell the truth and am full of s**t, but I'd argue the toss on that point for many an hour.

[jackiewilson]

Got a favour to ask of all my friends WW and that’s quite a few of you ?
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Now, you may or you may not know, a long time Aussie friend of mine Kay Marshall had the misfortune to flip a tunnel boat whilst in the lead of a race in the Far East (not the best place to get injured).
Ensuing events led to the accumulation of some horrendously expensive medical bills——— Kay is not the richest bitch I ever met by a long way. She needs a “Chuck-up”!
Roy Cooper at fast on water has agreed to auction off the above piece of conception I cobbled together earlier. Now it’s proving difficult to get this thing off the ground.
All it needs is for a number of you out there to bid for it——- bugger me——— it’s got to be worth a couple of hundred bucks——- even on a bad day in a depression.
Somebody out there must like some of the stuff I do, this one is a slant on a present day tunnel, noted for their extremely ugly features——— long gone are the beautiful flowing lines and artistry coupled with the craftsmanship of Molinari, Hodges, Burgess,Scottie, Abbatte, Jones and Seebold. And the likes..
Only one of you will win it———- wouldn’t hurt to put in a bid——— it’s in a good cause——- every penny goes to Kay.
What about you Pilgrim? And you Roger, what about it Rich?
No good hiding, Williams, Jenkins, Frost, The Bullens and Mullen’s, c’mon guys give it a crack, please.J.

[jackiewilson]

when the sound was changed in F1 it lost lots of fans
Silent racing is not going to be big

Wasnt just the sound, ——— it was the ethics of the game Pilgrim——- the whole shebang is as bent as an eleven sided three penny bit.
Theres already an electric E1 series—————grown up slot racing ( silent of course ———- ghost drivers on the track).
Need you to bid on the piece Pilgrim.

[powerabout]

Wasnt just the sound, ——— it was the ethics of the game Pilgrim——- the whole shebang is as bent as an eleven sided three penny bit.
Theres already an electric E1 series—————grown up slot racing ( silent of course ———- ghost drivers on the track).
Need you to bid on the piece Pilgrim.
I tipped some in the go fund me as did lots of aussies

[jackiewilson]

I tipped some in the go fund me as did lots of aussies

Then stick a bid in——— or I shall think your just a mean old bastard.

[jackiewilson]

Got two hours in the shop today, was asked to make a KERMIT/GEICO pattern———— half a boat on a twelve mill chunk of glass.
Sure fire winner for Key West—— if I’m happy, I’ll take a piccy over the weekend.

[jackiewilson]

Did manage another hour in the shop, then dropped the fresh painted Kermit/Gieco into the sawdust——- so you don’t get to see it today.
Good thing is I’m on the bubble again, be it ever so gentle.
Lets just say the pilot lights lit.

[jackiewilson]

Not to worry———it’ll soon be overf———-just hope that fat, bearded little git in the red suit———(the one I leave the glass of milk and the Cadbury’s chocolate fingers out for). Leaves me a half decent present this year ! I still have ten pairs of socks and twenty boxes of handkerchiefs from previous years.

[jackiewilson]

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Coming together nicely———- never tried this before——- it might just work.

[jackiewilson]

Kinda grows on me———-outrageous accentuated steps———- simple lines with just the vague shape of the lizard.
One in that kookie colour they use———— the other in Brazilian mahogany———— see what difference ten coats of polish make.
This pair are for my daughter Sams Christmas and birthday present rolled into one.
Said she wanted something different for the beach house, figure this pair might just do the trick.

[jackiewilson]

I’ve had so many screwed up Christmas dinners in my life, Jilly and I decided this year———we’re staying home———alone——- just the two of us.
Collected the twelve pound “bronze” turkey bird from our local butcher yesterday——— the kitchen goddess stuffed the bird with sage, thyme, chestnuts and sausage meat———- half to fill the bird and the rest to fill a tin tray to place in the oven for wedges of baked stuffing.
Drawbridge gets pulled up and closed around four this afternoon———— Champers opened first and crackers banged and silly hats donned.
Yippee——- Christmas has begun, the perfect start—— a Jack and Jill Christmas .

[Bob V]

I’ve had so many screwed up Christmas dinners in my life, Jilly and I decided this year———we’re staying home———alone——- just the two of us.
Collected the twelve pound “bronze” turkey bird from our local butcher yesterday——— the kitchen goddess stuffed the bird with sage, thyme, chestnuts and sausage meat———- half to fill the bird and the rest to fill a tin tray to place in the oven for wedges of baked stuffing.
Drawbridge gets pulled up and closed around four this afternoon———— Champers opened first and crackers banged and silly hats donned.
Yippee——- Christmas has begun, the perfect start—— a Jack and Jill Christmas .

Aren't we celebrating a little early? There are still eight days to go. I think that bottle of nectar that Rotary John sent you has you running a bit ahead of your time...

[jackiewilson]

Aren't we celebrating a little early? There are still eight days to go. I think that bottle of nectar that Rotary John sent you has you running a bit ahead of your time...

Let me try and explain Bob———- Christmas Day we are having dinner at Little Lizzie’s house
Boxing day———- Christmas dinner at my daughters house.
New years eve, Christmas dinner at my friend Steve’s house.
New years day——— guess what ? Christmas dinner at my son in laws !

Maybe you can begin to understand how and why I just want a simple Christmas dinner——- in my own home——- with just me and my own wife, getting exactly the traditional food we like best——-with the drink we like———- served at the time we like——— listening to the music we like———— as loud or as soft as we like———— for as long as we like.
Yes, in a couple of hours I shall be partaking of another slug of R/J’s sacred brew———- mainly, because I can.
In all honesty———- how many of you will enjoy Christmas as much as me ?
So what if it’s eight days early——— who cares?

A very merry Christmas to all my friends wherever you May Be, God bless you all !

[Bob V]

Let me try and explain Bob———- Christmas Day we are having dinner at Little Lizzie’s house
Boxing day———- Christmas dinner at my daughters house.
New years eve, Christmas dinner at my friend Steve’s house.
New years day——— guess what ? Christmas dinner at my son in laws !

Maybe you can begin to understand how and why I just want a simple Christmas dinner——- in my own home——- with just me and my own wife, getting exactly the traditional food we like best——-with the drink we like———- served at the time we like——— listening to the music we like———— as loud or as soft as we like———— for as long as we like.
Yes, in a couple of hours I shall be partaking of another slug of R/J’s sacred brew———- mainly, because I can.
In all honesty———- how many of you will enjoy Christmas as much as me ?
So what if it’s eight days early——— who cares?

A very merry Christmas to all my friends wherever you May Be, God bless you all !

Jackie, perhaps you may have started a new tradition....Christmas, when you want it, the way you want it and with whom you want to share it. I think you may be on to something...:thumbsup:

[jackiewilson]

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Well, that was it, and very nice it was too———— done to perfection and shared with the one I wanted to.
The Dalmore slid down a treat and just for the day I lived like a king.
I can heartily recommend this way of enjoying Christmas.

[jackiewilson]

As the king famously said in the whores bed——— I can now die a happy man !
Have to say, there’s a lot to be said to giving the rest of the world the finger and going you’re own route, any time between now and the new year.
Best thing I’ve done in years———- nobody told or “suggested” what I did on Christmas Day, I decided, without anyone getting the “hump”. Creating my very own Christmas Day.
Jilly and I decided years ago there was no point in giving expensive presents neither of us wanted just because it’s christmas.
So, every time we go on vacation and she sees something she wants, she buys it (without a word from me) .
The world ran out of presents I needed some twenty five years ago, so I just save everything up for the biggie, ie; Trusty Lexus IS coming up 110,000 miles and the main user is making funny noises and muttering things like “updated” and change of colour ———- in the old days, it would have been ‘cos the ash trays were full !
Do have a slight niggle at the back of my mind here——— We’ve only had the Trusty Lexus for seven years, so its only just nicely run in———— a bit like me really, and if the Lexus IS going, there’s no telling what or who could be next.
Hmmmm food for thought!

[jackiewilson]

Afraid I’m not quite “ shop fit” at the minute——- was hoping to have the shop cleared of all conceptual debris by Christmas———— going to be unlucky methinks——- it’s not going to happen.
This is one of those times when common sense overtakes ambition and wistful thinking.
I get these mad fits of ambition——— stay out in the shop for two and three hours at a time——— collapse in an untidy heap and then the field Marshall hides the key for the rest of the week.
You know what they say——— where there’s no sense, there’s no feeling. Must be something in it at the end of the day..
My son and a couple of grandsons, along with three of my great grandsons are taking off for the ski slopes of West Virginia next Wednesday. They always have a great time in that damned white stuff——— I’ve only ever froze my nuts off in it——— sooner it’s gone the better.
Snow should be melted, collected in a lake and powerboats raced upon the same.
Been called upon to do my exercises——- here endeth the the first lesson !

[jackiewilson]

Over here in the UK, we have an end of the year do for “SPORTSMEN AND WOMEN” it’s called the Sports Personality of the year!
Most noticeable sport by its absence was Formula One Motor racing———- nobody could give a flying fart about it any more.
Even the four times world champion Was partying in Los Angeles and couldn’t be bothered to turn up.

Methinks the Liberty group may have bought a lemon!
No Bernie——— no rudder. Could end up in mid Atlantic

[jackiewilson]

Well, Joshua was “supposed” to win the SP of the year———- but as My sainted mother used to say——- many a slip between cup and lip.
After the fiasco and debacle that’s called boxing these days, with the mint and Fort Knox doing special runs to provide enough ready cash for the participants, it’s small wonderthe public have “GONE OFF” Boxing . Joe public will take only so much before he turns round and rebels.
I can feel it coming in the air——— oh yeah——-oh yeah. There’s a change in the air, it’s coming——-
Now don’t get me wrong, I can F & Blind along with the best——- but there’s a time and place for it and prime time TV ———— big names using filthy language in every sentence thinking it’s the Smart thing to do.
Dont ask me what brought this on, but I just think we have a duty of care to a younger generation and nobody gives a toss about how they act, or talk these days.
Particularly obnoxious is the obscene way, so called sportsmen today flaunt their wealth.
Ok, so I’ve dug a big hole for myself here——- I’d better quit while I’m ahead, but I would be interested to see if any of my friends feel the same way.

[powerabout]

its the non smacked generation, they can do what they like because they say you cant do anything to them and they will happily say that to anyone.

[jackiewilson]

You mean the kids with the slapped arse faces?
Callout the law dogs——- when a kid needs a slapped arse——— trust me——— nothing else will do
Ask any one of my five and they’ll agree with you100.%

[Bob V]

Jackie - Andy Greene was on CBS this morning. I tried to pull up the video, but it is not available yet. Here is the text version.

CBS NEWS December 18, 2017, 8:20 AM
Pushing the Limits: A car built to go 1,000 mph

https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2017/12/18/0bbd7454-162f-4e77-b10d-2424cf24babf/thumbnail/620x350/5a5ae9837eb7af8a15d034f67583b809/bloodhound-b-620.jpg#
The British team behind the Bloodhound is aiming to break the world land speed record.

CBS NEWS

In our "Pushing the Limits" series, Charlie D'Agata takes a look at a project ten years, and $40 million, in the making that is redefining the boundaries of speed:
In Newquay, England, the British-based Bloodhound (http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/) team is building a car they hope will travel more than 1,000 miles an hour. That's well over the speed of sound, and it would shatter the current land-speed record.
The car's driver is former RAF fighter jet pilot Andy Green. It is possible, he told D'Agata, to drive supersonic.
"We did it!" he said after breaking the World Land Speed Record in 1997. "The car doesn't leap into the air and explode, I was delighted to find out!"
But if that ride had doors, the Bloodhound is aiming to blow them off.
"We're not just trying to break the current record, 763 miles an hour; we're gonna have an engineering adventure that will push back the boundaries of physics, literally push back the boundaries of human endeavor," Green said.
It will also push the boundaries of the human body.
To get a hint of what that feels like, Green took D'Agata up in a stunt plane, where he trains his body to take the full load of G forces he'll experience during the real thing … simulating the exact conditions of the 1,000-mile-an-hour run.
D'Agata was just hoping he wouldn't pass out. As the plane quickly accelerated to about 500 mph, the blood rushed to his head. "It felt like it was about to explode," D'Agata said.
The speed increased past the speed of sound. Then came the worst part of all: Deceleration at three times the force of gravity.
"It feels like I just got slammed right in the chest," D'Agata said.
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2017/12/18/e09ffd93-39ed-4c03-99b8-6f491a898175/resize/620x/1b990ffee0b539f1ff31540caafbfbbf/bloodhound-andy-green-charlie-dagata-aboard-stunt-plane-620.jpg#Andy Green takes Charlie D'Agata aboard a stunt plane to simulate the G forces one gets breaking the sound barrier.

CBS NEWS
"Exactly so," said Green. "It's fairly unpleasant, and it's all sorts of directions the human body really isn't designed to take."
The gut-wrenching G force is generated from tapping into the lunatic fringe of technology. They took the Rolls-Royce jet engine found in the Eurofighter and mounted it on top of a rocket.
The stats are face-meltingly staggering:


25,000 feet: The altitude it would reach if pointed straight in the air, or 17 times the height of the Empire State Building.
135,000 Horsepower: Every Indy 500 car on the track combined, seven times over.
At top speed, she'll travel a mile in 3.6 seconds -- more than 4 football fields per second.

They face stiff competition from the United States, and the proven 500-mile-an-hour North American Eagle. And from Australia: The Invader, although still primarily in the planning stages.
Bloodhound leads the hunt, for now.
The team is gearing up to smash their own world record next year. And with the competition choking on the afterburner, the only thing the Bloodhound is chasing is destiny.


© 2017 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.

[jackiewilson]

Thanks again for a most informative piece of information Bob.
Records are notoriously slow things to establish, especially in cars, planes and boats.
its usually government funded or wholly paid for in aeroplanes?
Wealthy individuals or totally mad bastards like WARBY when it comes to boats.
Again, it was always the domain of the rich, industrialists with a few pioneers thrown in when it came to land speed records.
You don’t hear much about the North American Eagle attempt which means they’ve either run out of money or had a massive set back and are stuck around the 500 mph mark.
Warby has his hands full of water speed stuff at the minute. I honestly have no idea why he is even tackling this. There’s no one on the horizon even making noises in that direction, so why ?
The Aussie land speed record is still on the drawing board at the moment, and don’t appear to be going anywhere.
I would bet that the only show in town at the moment is the BLOODHOUND.
Over ten years in the making up to now, forty million and rising ( all from public donations). A slowly, slowly catchee monkey approach———— there’s been no disasters up to now, touch wood, but the first sign and that will knock em back another ten years.
1,000 miles an hour is a long way from becoming a reality.

[jackiewilson]

I’m very fortunate to have steered, cajoled, threatened, but in the end succeeded in getting all my five kids through their teenage years and eventually married, without any of the major problems that seem to befall present day kids.
Not that they were perfect or angelic in any shape or form. Every one of them have been “Grounded” for two weeks or more, at least once in their lives. I always made it stick for the full period. They only needed grounding once———-none of them ever needed it twice.
The very last time I put one of my girls over my knee———— she was 18 years old and had used the F word at me for the first time ever. Don’t know who was the most surprised, her or me !
I do remember my hand aching like buggery afterwards————-
All my kids still talk to me damn near every day, so we weren’t too far out in our teachings!

Five kids, Thirteen grand kids, Twelve great grandkids and still counting———— none of this would have been possible without some sort of discipline and all the love I could give to my kids.
Only an idiot or a liar says do not ever smack a child.
Many of the old adages still apply————- spare the rod——- spoil the child.

Just know I’m going to get flack over this, but there isn’t a crack head in the family yet———- not even one of the “Blow ins”.

[jackiewilson]

Was asked what a “BLOW IN”was ?
Well, FYI, It’s one who marries into the family ?
Hope this clarifies it for the colonials !

Didnt get any of the expected Flak about my take on raising kids———- maybe more folk agree with me than I thought!

[olboatman]

Was asked what a “BLOW IN”was ?
Well, FYI, It’s one who marries into the family ?
Hope this clarifies it for the colonials !

Didnt get any of the expected Flak about my take on raising kids———- maybe more folk agree with me than I thought!
No Flak jackie because anyone who has raised a family (would be most) knows you need to be open to "theres an exception to every rule"!!
And if ya let'm do what they want...they will ... which most likely will be wrong.
Gary

[jackiewilson]

Glad someone agrees with me——— thank God there are still like minded people about with old traditional values.
Theres nothing kids can do after midnight that they can’t do before, but they’ll never believe that .
Bringing kids up is a twenty five year full time job for each child——— I was twenty one when I started out to raise a family.
Cars,clothes, schooling, manners, job, food, house, that just kind of happened——— around the five kids———- life revolved around them.
Vacations, weekends,hobbies, friendships, boat racing, it somehow all rolled into one after I quickly realised that there was no way I could keep my head above water just doing one job.
I needed a business ————-
By the time my kids were fully fledged, a bunch of grandchildren were on the scene and most of them had been round the world following the boat racing fraternity,
All the kids were on first name terms with, Molinari, Scotti, Rasinis, Carniti and Koenig———— Williams, Spaldings and Percival, The Bullens, Seebold, Hauenstien, Sirois, Bentz, Bush.
Barry SHEENE was a regular visitor to the farm in his Huey!
Then one day, there was a gathering at the farm with a load of people wishing me a happy 65th birthday————- I was gobsmacked———- the time thief had stolen 45 years of my life, Jesus wept, after 22 years at the farm, it’s time to move on.
We sold everything and moved down to Provence in the south of France!
Thats another tale I might tell you about one day.

[FUJIMO]

The farm? You have/had a horse farm?...https://i.pinimg.com/736x/26/b6/57/26b6578385feb9f833fefa08b25d180b--laughing-animals-smiling-animals.jpg

[FUJIMO]

...or a cow farm?...https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.60390067.9794/flat,1000x1000,075,f.jpg

[FUJIMO]

...or a pig farm?...https://www.funnypica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Funny-Pig-01.jpg

[FUJIMO]

Jackie, did you have both a family farm and a boatshop simultaneously?:cool:

[ron54]

Stop picking on 'im you lot......Jackie how is you wife it all seems to have gone a bit quiet on that front you haven't done anything silly have you?

[jackiewilson]

Stop picking on 'im you lot......Jackie how is you wife it all seems to have gone a bit quiet on that front you haven't done anything silly have you?

No Ron——- she’s still alive and well, I haven’t struck her once, YET !!! spent most of Monday at Bognor Regis Hospital———- X rays and a series of therapy
Had to cover my mouth in duck tape————- to answer back could have had disastrous consequences——— even a fatality ?
I would not have wished a wife with a broken Femur on even Bert Serra——— they are written about in the annals———- surviving husbands go down in folklore as hero’s and in some cases even Saints——
SAINT JACQUE RAYMOND——— got a nice ring to it don’t you think.
Shes still on crutches, but getting quicker, so I have to step a bit lively when I answer back. I’ve gotten quite brave since she’s been incapacitated.
Told her quite firmly, should she injure me, I shall refuse to drive her anywhere——— then, she would be in deep Ka-Ka.

[jackiewilson]

The farm? You have/had a horse farm?...https://i.pinimg.com/736x/26/b6/57/26b6578385feb9f833fefa08b25d180b--laughing-animals-smiling-animals.jpg

Yes Fuji——- for 22 years man and boy——- had horses——- or rather my youngest did. “ARABS”——
I could have bought Gieco with what I paid out in vets bills!

[jackiewilson]

...or a cow farm?...https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.60390067.9794/flat,1000x1000,075,f.jpg

Yup, and cows, and bullocks up to six months——— youngest daughter used to ride them round the paddocks bareback before I was daft enough to get her an ARAB.

[jackiewilson]

...or a pig farm?...https://www.funnypica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Funny-Pig-01.jpg

OH YES,pigs by the score———- two months and they were gone, but not before my youngest had broken them in.
Sam could do the 100 yards in ten flat on the back of those damn things .
Hope that answers your query Fuji.?

[powerabout]

cant wait for the French story....

[jackiewilson]

cant wait for the French story....

Too near Christmas to start that narration Pilgrim———nobody would believe it anyway——- not even in fairy tales does a 68 year old, sell up the farm and RV ——— Take his wife, two retrievers, two cats and buy a beautiful five bedroom house, surrounded by vineyards on all four sides with a swimming pool and magnificent views over Mont Ventoux in the heart of Provence.
Tom Hanks wanted the script !

In reality—— it was the only way I could get rid of the mother in law legit——— she would never move to France and I was getting desperate!———last thing in the world I needed was a “live in”mother in law. She was cramping my style something rotten.
We bought her a ground floor flat in Billingshurst and ran.

[jackiewilson]

395044
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Anyone out there can tell me a few “FACTS” on the state Of play at CALDWELL ——— they’ve been awfully quiet the last few months!

[FUJIMO]

More interesting Jackie history. Which bears the question. What "haven't" you done Jack?:smiletest:

[jackiewilson]

More interesting Jackie history. Which bears the question. What "haven't" you done Jack?:smiletest:

Still got at least one more lifetime to live Fuji ———- I got places to go and sights to see——— concepts to finish ——— people to disagree with and a couple Of hills to climb, where I just know the grass is greener, but I have to seee for myself.
No doubt about it ———- I’m down to a waltz these days———- even a fox trot is one hell of an effort and If I ever hear Kenton play again you better have the coroner standing by.

[GENE LANHAM]

Too near Christmas to start that narration Pilgrim———nobody would believe it anyway——- not even in fairy tales does a 68 year old, sell up the farm and RV ——— Take his wife, two retrievers, two cats and buy a beautiful five bedroom house, surrounded by vineyards on all four sides with a swimming pool and magnificent views over Mont Ventoux in the heart of Provence.
Tom Hanks wanted the script !

.
---Sound like one of your countryman, Jackie--moved to a farm in Colorado--and his wife Pam opened a little Restaurant called 'The Mad Dog Inn'
http://i63.tinypic.com/6qw5zp.jpg

[FUJIMO]

It can be yours Gene. It seems Pam has it on the market finally. Beautiful place.

[jackiewilson]

C’mon Gene, give me a break ——-seventy years ago when I was young, foolish and full of ambition, I might have taken it on. At sixteen I knew more about the confectionery business than my father and grandfather combined, they both had bakeries. so I left Home and went to work for Silvio Lafranche, the most celebrated Swiss chocolatier in northern England.
Six months later I knew more than he did———— at seventeen I won my City and Guilds in Baking and confectionery and was decorating wedding cakes for the finest pattissieres in northern England .
I bought my first motorcycle. In 1949 ( A Triumph Speed Twin)
Fell out big time with Silvio when he threw a sharp knife at me———- I just picked it up and threw it straight back at him——— scared him sh-tless (and me)——— was sacked on the spot.
Got a job with with “old man Holdsworth” , he could spin a galleon out of boiling sugar in under five minutes.
At nineteen I was the cleverest, most obnoxious, big headed little bastard in the world. At twenty, My sainted mother could stand me no longer, threw all my clothes out in the street and told me to bugger off and never come back.
Picked em all up, and set off down the great north road to London and beyond——— got a job as head baker at a small bakery in Southwater West Sussex.
Would Be forty years before I left West Sussex for France———- but not before there were a number of history books written.
So you see Gene my friend , it would not have been beyond the realms of possibilities for me to have settled on a farm in Colorado running the MAD DOG RESTAURANT.

[GENE LANHAM]

So you see Gene my friend , it would not have been beyond the realms of possibilities for me to have settled on a farm in Colorado running the MAD DOG RESTAURANT.

But could you sing??

'With A Little Help From My Friends'?

[jackiewilson]

But could you sing??

'With A Little Help From My Friends'?

I got a singing voice that’s a cross between SATCHMO and Lee Marvin, but did used to try to play a little boogie like Albert Amons and Lionel Hampton——- don’t suppose you ever heard of em though?

[jackiewilson]

Came across an old tin box full of old American coinage at the car boot sale this morning———— amongst it was an 1864 Silver eagle one dollar piece————— offered the lady £1 cash for it——- she damn near snatched my hand off.
May, or may not be the real McCoy———- for a quid, I figure it’s worth it, just as a talking point.

[jackiewilson]

395155

That was one of Hodges better boats———- had a two litre Cosworth BDG——— was a match for either of the factories .

[AZMIDLYF]

395176

[jackiewilson]

Shortest day of the year———— longest night and all that jazz. ——— another three days and it’ll all be over for another twelve months. Got great expectations for next year, just want to feel good and get the old girl back to normal. I’ll settle for that.

[jackiewilson]

Midlyfe——-Roger, Rich, Bob, can any one of you help me find the CALDWELL RACING TECHNOLOGY site?
Its not on the S & F. Threads site and I would like to know if everything is ok with the people that promised so much, then just left me in suspension.
Stuff on google is old hat from 2016!

[jackiewilson]

Strange that Fujimo and Lasse don’t appear to know any more about CRT than I do—— or maybe it’s because Christmas is coming and the goose is getting fat and nobody wants to talk today.
Jilly has a morning session at Bognor Regis Hospital today, she’s waggling along quite rapidly on one crutch these days——— expect she’ll do the “LAZARUS” bit today.
Really will have to get myself back in shape and open up the shop. It’s the only place I can hide these days.
Weater here is mild wet and miserable, no chance of snow for Christmas Day.
Gary and Lou are over here for the holidays——— Mark Craig and the kids are in Virginia for some skiing. Think I shall attack the “Dalmore” bottle this evening.
Just because I can!

[Bob V]

Midlyfe——-Roger, Rich, Bob, can any one of you help me find the CALDWELL RACING TECHNOLOGY site?
Its not on the S & F. Threads site and I would like to know if everything is ok with the people that promised so much, then just left me in suspension.
Stuff on google is old hat from 2016!

Jackie, it seems like the lights are on, but nobody is home at Caldwell. They have an impressive website, but I cannot see where they are actively selling anything. They are still registered as an LLC in Orange Texas, but other than that, there does not appear to be any activity that I can find. Most of what I was able to find dates back to 2016. You may already have this information, but I have posted a few links below, including one from S&F. The bottom link shows that Caldwell Racing Technology is an auto repair shop with one employee and annual income of $28,248.00.

http://www.caldwellracingtechnology.com/

http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?314288-Caldwell-Racing-Technology-Introduces-Billet-2-5-Liter-V6-Engine

http://listings.findthecompany.com/l/887487578/Caldwell-Racing-Technology-Llc

[jackiewilson]

Jackie, it seems like the lights are on, but nobody is home at Caldwell. They have an impressive website, but I cannot see where they are actively selling anything. They are still registered as an LLC in Orange Texas, but other than that, there does not appear to be any activity that I can find. Most of what I was able to find dates back to 2016. You may already have this information, but I have posted a few links below, including one from S&F. The bottom link shows that Caldwell Racing Technology is an auto repair shop with one employee and annual income of $28,248.00.

http://www.caldwellracingtechnology.com/

http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?314288-Caldwell-Racing-Technology-Introduces-Billet-2-5-Liter-V6-Engine

http://listings.findthecompany.com/l/887487578/Caldwell-Racing-Technology-Llc

Some things just don’t add up here Bob.
FIRST,there’s the non progress bit for 2017
SECOND, no motors have appeared anywhere at any price!
THIRD what happened to Jay Price And the BaBa?
FOURTH one boat with a CRT cowl on a duck pond does not make for great development.

looking back, all I’ve ever seen is a posh powerhead with no bits !

[GENE LANHAM]

I got a singing voice that’s a cross between SATCHMO and Lee Marvin, but did used to try to play a little boogie like Albert Amons and Lionel Hampton——- don’t suppose you ever heard of em though?

---But Joe made more $$$-------------------- than you and I ever thought of racing them boats--did he have as much fun????

http://i68.tinypic.com/zn8siu.jpg

[Bob V]

---But Joe made more $$$-------------------- than you and I ever thought of racing them boats--did he have as much fun????

http://i68.tinypic.com/zn8siu.jpg

Perhaps he had more fun than the two of you combined. After all...he got by with a little help from his friends...:thumbsup:

[jackiewilson]

Nobody had a voice quite like Joe——- a kinda cross between a shout, a croak and a groan——- it was of our time, like Dylan, Springsteen and Rod Stewart.
Mens men, and proud of it——— course, we had the” Fairy” voices like Barry Gibbs and Elton John, and the norm of Neil Diamond, John Denver and a hundred like him.
That was in the days of “Music”, before the rappers and screaming girlie groups.

Seem to have opened up a-can of worms with the CRT question.
Bob V found a wealth of information which makes for some very interesting reading if you care to follow his website findings———- all is not what it appears to be at first glance. It’s like an Ian Fleming novel——— full of intrigue and secrets covering three continents.
Cmon Fuji,we should be able to milk this well into the new year!
Bob V has made a brilliant start.

[Bob V]

It would appear that Caldwell Racing Technology bought two F2 hulls from BaBa in Italy earlier this year. Looking at the shipping bill of lading, Caldwell seems to have moved from Orange Texas to Vancleave, Mississippi. However, when I tried to look them up in Vancleave, Mississippi, nothing came up. Looking at the weight of that container (9526 lbs.) there had to be a lot more than just two F2 boats in there. That is a lot of "accessories."



Crt- Caldwell Racing Technology imports from Baba Racing And Boat Di Massimo Rog in Italy through the port of New Orleans, Louisiana
BILL OF LADING


BILL OF LADING


Manufacturer / Shipper
Consignee


BABA RACING AND BOAT DI MASSIMO ROG

VIA ANCONA 11 BUSTO ARSIZIO 21052 ITALY
CRT- CALDWELL RACING TECHNOLOGY

16301 ALLIE BYRD RD, VANCLEAVE VANCLEAVE 39565 US


Notify Party
Marks and Numbers


MASTERPIECE INTERNATIONAL

1 MILL STREET, 3RD FLOOR NEWPORT RI 02840 UNITED STATES
NO MARKS NO MARKS


Master Bill of Lading Number
Container Number



GLDU4106774


Product Description


(PIECES) TWO F2 RACE BOAT HULLS AND ACCESSORIES






BILL OF LADING
MSCUVK635471


ARRIVAL DATE
2017-05-22


WEIGHT (LB)
9,526


WEIGHT (KG)
4,330


QUANTITY
8 PKG


CONTAINER COUNT
1


VOYAGE NO.
716W


PORT OF LOADING
LA SPEZIA


PORT OF DISCHARGE
NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA


VESSEL NAME
SEALAND ILLINOIS


CARRIER CODE
MSCU


COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
ITALY


PLACE OF RECEIPT
BUSTO ARSIZIO,ITA

[jackiewilson]

Reading between the lines Bob, would appear from the BOL there were eight motors or the equivalent weight———- heavy motors at that——— ?
Nah, course they couldn’t possibly be V8 production run———- nobody would ever be that stupid again.
Take no notice of me——— I’m just a dopey old git who fantasises., Not only that, I still believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy .

[AZMIDLYF]

Jackie, I don't know if you use Face Book but here is their site:
https://www.facebook.com/caldwellracingtechnology/

[jackiewilson]

Jackie, I don't know if you use Face Book but here is their site:
https://www.facebook.com/caldwellracingtechnology/

when I punch that website in, they want a password and to know if my home phone is my cell phone and did I get the new four digit they sent to my mobile that they don’t even have the number of——- all kinda weird .
Gary tells me they have a great website, but it hasn’t been touched in over a year and that they moved from Orange Texas to Louisiana and then fell off the planet.
Maybe it’s just a temporary hiccup——- I know a lot of folk were hoping to buy one of these motors, at almost any price along with a lot of well known “names”.
It looked like they’d done the hard part——-paid big bucks to front it——- then simply, just fell out of bed.
why don’t you take a closer look and see if you can make any more sense out of it than I can?

[STEVERINO]

Nobody had a voice quite like Joe——- a kinda cross between a shout, a croak and a groan——- it was of our time, like Dylan, Springsteen and Rod Stewart.
Mens men, and proud of it——— course, we had the” Fairy” voices like Barry Gibbs and Elton John, and the norm of Neil Diamond, John Denver and a hundred like him.
That was in the days of “Music”, before the rappers and screaming girlie groups.

Seem to have opened up a-can of worms with the CRT question.
Bob V found a wealth of information which makes for some very interesting reading if you care to follow his website findings———- all is not what it appears to be at first glance. It’s like an Ian Fleming novel——— full of intrigue and secrets covering three continents.
Cmon Fuji,we should be able to milk this well into the new year!
Bob V has made a brilliant start. I am not sure if you know this Jackie but Joe was a Sheffield born Yorkshire man he lived not much more than a mile from where I am stood now.

[jackiewilson]

I am not sure if you know this Jackie but Joe was a Sheffield born Yorkshire man he lived not much more than a mile from where I am stood now.
Funny how one little thing leads to another in this world Steve.
Do you remember Dave Parkinson’s partner at JBS, Charlie Saunders ? Reason I ask this is, he was agent for a couple of lyric belters———— MEATLOAF was one, Joe Cocker was the other.
Charlie was also heir to port maker “COCKBURN”———- was never expected to make old bones——— but he has.
Fun person to be around, but mad as a bloody March hare.

[GENE LANHAM]

I am not sure if you know this Jackie but Joe was a Sheffield born Yorkshire man he lived not much more than a mile from where I am stood now.

---and Joe passed away not too far from my home in Colorado--I was the pilot for the contractor that built The Mad Dog Ranch--got to meet Joe and Pam a few times--

http://i63.tinypic.com/6qw5zp.jpg

[jackiewilson]

---and Joe passed away not too far from my home in Colorado--I was the pilot for the contractor that built The Mad Dog Ranch--got to meet Joe and Pam a few times--

http://i63.tinypic.com/6qw5zp.jpg

Gene, it never ceases to amaze me how small the world we live in really is.
Theres Joe Cocker who was born 30 miles from where I was born, and you ferrying the contractor for his new house, six thousand miles away in Colorado!

I should catch you up again next month——— 80 bloody six——- My sainted. Mother told me I wouldn’t make forty, yet here I am frightening the larks every morning as I yell out to the world——— Nah,Nah,Na,Nah,Nah, surprise!

My son in law, Little Jeff, who’s a whizz kid with MACS, came over this evening and downloaded the 1978 Bristol Grand Prix for me————- this is the first time I have ever seen this version of the event——— some great pit interviews with Percy and Spalding and myself.
Really had the Cosworth tramping in the first heat——— Seebold first, Percy second, me third before the wing dislodged itself, should have been a lot better, but spun out on the first turn. Stone bitch of a course to overtake a half decent driver.
Nearly there, but I’ll talk to you all tomorrow, g’night all.

[jackiewilson]

Merry Christmas everybody——- whatever your belief, creed or colour.
Somewhere along the line, I will probably be Brought to task and told it’s not PC to say that.
Well, guess what——— I’ve been saying just that for over 80 years now and it’s not about to change.
So again, to all my friends and family, wherever you may be—— HEALTH WEALTH AND HAPPINESS.

A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR. JACK.

[jackiewilson]

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If if I could have chopped and cropped, it would have made a nice Christmas card!

[powerabout]

Best wishes to Jackie and the Wilson clan

[ron54]

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If if I could have chopped and cropped, it would have made a nice Christmas card!


Jackie... I am sure you've been asked this many times before but I can't find a thread on it...Who thought of putting the wing on and what was the thinking behind it?


I was going to ask you on the day...but you always seemed to be surrounded by pretty girls......!

Good idea on the card thing BTW, any copyright on it though?

[jackiewilson]

Jackie... I am sure you've been asked this many times before but I can't find a thread on it...Who thought of putting the wing on and what was the thinking behind it?


I was going to ask you on the day...but you always seemed to be surrounded by pretty girls......!

Good idea on the card thing BTW, any copyright on it though?

Was Keith Duckworths idea Ron———- he thought the whole back end needed lifting. ( bear in mind all the F1 cars of the day had wings).
All those pretty girls around the boat were my daughters, We were a family concern, seven of us went wherever there was a race meeting.
Two youngest ones Kim and Sam, went as far as Havasu, then went up to Oregon with Jim and Fred Hauenstiens folks in an RV for a couple of weeks.

Whats a copyright Ron ? It was my boat——— I was driving it———— don’t ever remember giving the photographer permission to take the bloody picture in the first place.

Surely this is not another of those damned stupid PC things again?

[Bob V]

Merry Christmas to the Wilsons

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[John Schubert]

​merry christmas to all my boat racing friends

[John Schubert]

​merry christmas to all my boat racing friends

[jackiewilson]

​merry christmas to all my boat racing friends
AND THE SAME TO YOU JOHN——- 50 years and never a cross word!

[shadowcat]

Merry Christmas from the BOYD Clan-wishing you all the best for a safe and healthy 2018

[jackiewilson]

Merry Christmas to Ted and Chris and all the rest of my Canadian friends.

[jackiewilson]

Merry Christmas to Lassie Strom———- and Lady Zumba—— we don’t always see eye to eye———— but I’ve always thought he was the best of the OE drivers——— including Molinari.

Maybe Lassie could put me right on this little conundrum.
When Seebold lined up with the OZ’s in Bristol———- Weren’t there FIFTEEN OMC’s and ONE MERC?
Reason for this was the fact the goalposts had been moved !
Any engine in the world——— in fact any multiple engines in the world qualified for OZ.
But OMC in its wisdom had the designation altered———- only motors above two litres could qualify for OZ——- this in effect meant non of the ON class racers could compete in Bristol with the OZ!
Leo had less than ten minutes to swop powerheads and put an overbored two liter head on the existing leg.———- When Molinari slowed———- where were the other fourteen OZ OMC’s.
There were some very illustrious names in that line up——-maybe they were a bit off colour that day.
As Lassie so often says——— Merc followers do tend to “BANG ON “. About it.

Me myself, along with most other drivers, from both camps hated the devious tricks and law suits that went on between the camps.
The result of all this was the liquidation of OMC———-and the massive decline in power boat competition . Everyone lost out.

I have never been against big motors———- I have always been against unlimited capacity———
If they made the top limit 1000 cc I would be very happy.
If the top limit was 3500cc I would still be happy !
Basic rules, normally aspirated, pump fuel ——— capacity fixed for ten years.

From three litres to four and a half in twelve months could only spell disaster.

[RogerH]

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Merry Christmas to the OFF gang .... and the TDO gang .... Happy New Year as well

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[jackiewilson]

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Merry Christmas to the OFF gang .... and the TDO gang .... Happy New Year as well

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Cadillac, Stavros, Jim Hauser and Scotty B. Watching Charlie Wolfe do his fly past at the very first OFF meeting.
Merry Christmas to all those OFF characters.

[jackiewilson]

Well. Thar ya go—— it’s as far off as it’s ever likely to be:———a full 363 day’s!

[Bob V]

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[jackiewilson]

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Bob——-it’s my number, but I don’t recognise either the place or the boat or the event or the driver!

[Bob V]

Bob——-it’s my number, but I don’t recognise either the place or the boat or the event or the driver!

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Jackie, It sounds like something out of the Twilight Zone. As Rod Serling would say: “There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man ... a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination.” I was thinking that one of your fellow countrymen might come to the rescue, but all seems to be quiet. We might have to put this one on the list of unexplained phenomenon along with Caldwell Racing Technology.

[techteam]

1972, John Clabburn Oulton Broad, British Ol Champion 1971. Picture taken from floating jetty towards clubhouse.

[jackiewilson]

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Jackie, It sounds like something out of the Twilight Zone. As Rod Serling would say: “There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man ... a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination.” I was thinking that one of your fellow countrymen might come to the rescue, but all seems to be quiet. We might have to put this one on the list of unexplained phenomenon along with Caldwell Racing Technology.

Thought you might have been married to My sainted mother in an earlier life————she used to-slip into the fifth dimension——— But, you got the location wrong——— it was nowhere near the pit of mans fears and the summit———-
If you went past the Golden Fleece——— turned left at the Beehive and Crosskeys——— across the square, past the Dog and Vomit, you couldn’t miss it——- you could get a luverly glass of champagne in there and all questions would be answered by the celestial hooded transvestite with the 38 DD who spoke with a lisp, but dribbled !

[jackiewilson]

Ok let’s go for it———-
Is there such a thing as a complete CTR engine ?
Has anyone ever done a dyno test on a CTR ?
Has anyone ever tested a genuine CTR powerhead, (besides the one on the duckpond.)

With an annual turnover of under thirty thousand bucks, it can only be a one man band.?
If it is, congratulations——— that was a glorious con.

Woke up to snow this morning———— so I turned over and went back to sleep.
Another visit with the doctor this morning, maybe he knows something the others don’t——— by the time I got home , the snow had all gone.

[jackiewilson]

1972, John Clabburn Oulton Broad, British Ol Champion 1971. Picture taken from floating jetty towards clubhouse.
I have raced against John many times———— I should have stopped and thought about, instead of spouting off———I apologise John.
Another of my good friends at LOBPC was Neil Gregg——— Frankie Homes and Peter Sabberton were a couple more, and of course Bob and Tom.

[STEVERINO]

Bob——-it’s my number, but I don’t recognise either the place or the boat or the event or the driver! Hi Jackie i am going to push your memory to its limit here cast your mind back to early 1971 you ran the little black Molinari sprint boat and raced it at Covenham Ron Burchell Grimsby and Cleethorpes club held the event we had 3 Merc Twisters running Bob Spalding ran his black Milesmaster boat Mach One and Tom Percival ran for the first time i ever saw him ran the 3rd Twister1 on the boat in the picture which was a Abbate i think it was also painted black.I think John Clabburn had the boat off Tom when he got his new Molinari with the JPS sponsership.

[jackiewilson]

Hi Jackie i am going to push your memory to its limit here cast your mind back to early 1971 you ran the little black Molinari sprint boat and raced it at Covenham Ron Burchell Grimsby and Cleethorpes club held the event we had 3 Merc Twisters running Bob Spalding ran his black Milesmaster boat Mach One and Tom Percival ran for the first time i ever saw him ran the 3rd Twister1 on the boat in the picture which was a Abbate i think it was also painted black.I think John Clabburn had the boat off Tom when he got his new Molinari with the JPS sponsership.

Steve, Have to tell you ——the limit of my memory goes back a lot further than Ron Burchell and Graham Musson at Cleethorpes 1971
Tom was a sailing man and I’ve been told many times, he was very good at it (something I always wanted to do but never found the time).
I know he went to Italy and bought a small Abbatte from Tullio———- it was quick in a straight line but wasn’t in the same league as the Little Molinari ,
I knew John Clayburn bought it from Tom and was very successful, He won the national OI title with it.
I also knew the boat in the picture was the Abbatte with J/C in it———— I just hadn’t got my brain in gear before I opened my mouth.
Toms son is a sailor of international repute ——— and his daughter Katie is one of my son Marks all time favourites people.
"

[powerabout]

Whats Toms's son name?

[jackiewilson]

Whats Toms's son name?
i believe it’s Gary ———Pilgrim, spends a lot of time sailing around your neck of the woods, Australia!

My daughter Sam and husband Clive are on their way to Singapore.
I Used to fly out a week early trying to drag some sponsorship deal or another ———- usually managed to get “Pan Pacific” or the “Mandarin”————- Sam tells me those are Tiny hotels by today’s standards.
I could always pull a couple of traders out of CHANGE ALLEY———- Jimmy and Charles or Honest Harry———— Singapore was full of characters in those days, hookey Rolex’s and bespoke cashmere suits for a tenner.
We did just live the life and set the standard for future generations——— above all—— we had fun.

[jackiewilson]

Whats Toms's son name?
i believe it’s Gary ———Pilgrim, spends a lot of time sailing around your neck of the woods, Australia!

My daughter Sam and husband Clive are on their way to Singapore.
I Used to fly out a week early trying to drag some sponsorship deal or another ———- usually managed to get “Pan Pacific” or the “Mandarin”————- Sam tells me those are Tiny hotels by today’s standards.
I could always pull a couple of traders out of CHANGE ALLEY———- Jimmy and Charles or Honest Harry———— Singapore was full of characters in those days, hookey Rolex’s and bespoke cashmere suits for a tenner.
We did just live the life and set the standard for future generations——— above all—— we had fun.

[powerabout]

i believe it’s Gary ———Pilgrim, spends a lot of time sailing around your neck of the woods, Australia!

My daughter Sam and husband Clive are on their way to Singapore.
I Used to fly out a week early trying to drag some sponsorship deal or another ———- usually managed to get “Pan Pacific” or the “Mandarin”————- Sam tells me those are Tiny hotels by today’s standards.
I could always pull a couple of traders out of CHANGE ALLEY———- Jimmy and Charles or Honest Harry———— Singapore was full of characters in those days, hookey Rolex’s and bespoke cashmere suits for a tenner.
We did just live the life and set the standard for future generations——— above all—— we had fun.
and whats Tom and Gary's family name?
PS I am in Shanghai this week

[jackiewilson]

and whats Tom and Gary's family name?
PS I am in Shanghai this week
My daughter Boo just called in and told me I was dumb and stupid and how could I possibly forget “GUY’S name———— knew it began with a G!
Toms and GUY’S family name is PERCIVAL ———- which is what everyone called him —— PERCY
( with great affection).
Toms wife Jilly is a very memorable lady too Pilgrim.
Enjoy your stay in Shanghai———- Me myself could get as far as Littlehampton, Bognor or even Chichester————- depending which hospital requires my attention.

[jackiewilson]

Got an early morning call from the surgery today——— they wanted an armful of the red stuff to do more tests. Not allowed to drive with this new medication, or use machinery———— got more restrictions than. “The Prisoner Of Zenda” ever did.
In the early sixties when I had a wife, a bunch of kids——- a camper van and a boat. Every summer we would all pile into the van, hook the boat up and head for the French Riviera———- they used to hold the Grande Crossiere———-two weeks of power boat racing and partying. We got to eat for free, every night there was a party, free food and wine after each race———— but more importantly FREE PETROL.
Start was in Monte Carlo then along the coast to Nice, Cannes, Antibes, I’lle des Embiez ———- racing each and every day.
Was here I met Pruett and Ballesteros———Cees Velden——-Arie De Boom ——— contestants from around the world converged here to have two weeks of fun
First raced there in 1965——- had just enough money to get us all down there——— left there with the boat sand camper van fullto the gills with fuel———- cases of wine———-22 trophies, a ten foot inflatable with a five horse power outboard motor and enough cash to make for my time off work.
Still have to this day, many of the friends I made in those early days.

[jackiewilson]

There was one particular race called “THE GO BACKWARD RACE”——- race for 30 minutes clockwise, at the sound of the cannon, Everyone would turn around and race anti-clockwise .
Ths particular race was held just off the island owned by Paul Ricard——- t was called DES EMBIEZ.

[jackiewilson]

Another of the races was held at Juan Le Pins———- reception was held in the casino———- very posh do indeed. First time I ever had caviar, both black and red———- this was the original “HIGH SOCIETY”.
Another time we were taken by boat from Ille Des Embiez to The island of Bandol for the prize giving——- was in a superb castle.
Cant remember exactly where the reception was held in Monte Carlo———- was a bit too gobsmacked to remember much, this wasn’t your normal greasy spoon cafe!

[jackiewilson]

First time Don Ross and I landed in Havasu was 1969————- it was known as SITE 6——— Bob Mc Culloughs test lake. He was into everything from chain saws to Gyrocoptors, outboards and everything inbetween He Seemed to know every driver by his Christian name. He also threw $64,000 into the prize fund.
There was construction going on everywhere———- right in the middle of the desert.
The Ramada and the nautical .. which is where both Mercury and OMC were billeted seemed to be the only two hotels that were habitable.
There were great goings on, don’t remember any restrictions or regulations anywhere, I remember it as the friendliest place I ever visited.
Omc did their “SHRIMP BAKE” which to this day I swear is the best I ever attended in my life.
Scotti won a plot of land right on the lake——- he offered it to Don for $1000 and dropped the price to $500 just before we left.
Breakfast was a family affair——— all drivers, officials, big wigs and people like us, met in the dining room from daft time in a morning until everyone had their fill.

[Bob V]

First time Don Ross and I landed in Havasu was 1969————- it was known as SITE 6——— Bob Mc Culloughs test lake. He was into everything from chain saws to Gyrocoptors, outboards and everything inbetween.

Bob was responsible for the surge in go karting back in the 50's and through the 70's with all those fantastic karting motors derived from chain saw engines. When I was "young" there was nothing cooler than to be running a McCulloch engine or two on your kart. Those were some fun times.

These were my three karts that I raced in back in the 60's and kept until a few years ago. Until I sold them, I would occasionally take them out for a run around the neighborhood. Then the local police finally put an end to my fun (second childhood).

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Below: 1960 Bug Sprint with twin Mac 101's.
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Below: 1961 Go Kart 1200 with twin Mac 91's.
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Below: 1960 Rathmann Xterminator with twin Mac 101's.
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[FUJIMO]

Jacko...Any word from Mark regarding Old Blue? A couple of us were just wondering, lol...http://www.screamandfly.com/image.php?u=82113&dateline=1381511141&type=profile...thanx

[jackiewilson]

Jacko...Any word from Mark regarding Old Blue? A couple of us were just wondering, lol...http://www.screamandfly.com/image.php?u=82113&dateline=1381511141&type=profile...thanx


Happy New Year Fuji, if you can get any word out of Mark regarding Old Blue —- you might give him a nudge regarding “The Cosworth “ ——- I understand everything has been shipped up to the new facility at Fort Pearce.
Another one looking to cram 28 hours into a day.
Last time I spoke to him on the subject ——— he still didn’t know whether to do it all chrome-n-Show or authentic !

[jackiewilson]

Pilgrim, i meant to tell you, but forgot———- Sam was staying at the Fullerton in Singapore But is Now “Island hopping “ for a couple of weeks ———- I lose track of where she’s off to next.
I realised I was old some time ago, but refused to recognise the fact. Needed a positive sign——— like an-arm or a leg falling off——— then I might consider it in-depth.
Well, the time has come the Walrus said——— was confined to bed for New Year’s Eve———concoctions of pills and potions have not done me any favours——— managed to chuck-up everything I’ve eaten since Christmas Day and sweat out all that fine fifteen year old malt I’ve been sipping so frugally.
Shall Be glad to see the arseend of 2017—
Still got full use of my two index fingers, so I could be a damn nuisance for some time yet,
Havent even got a visit to the shop pencilled in yet——— see what 2018 chucks up ,

[powerabout]

I am up in shanghai so i would have missed them anyway.

[powerabout]

I was just wondering, back when Fonda was in singapore and penang, how much money did you need to get the show up and running at each venue?

[jackiewilson]

I was just wondering, back when Fonda was in singapore and penang, how much money did you need to get the show up and running at each venue?
Transport was always the big expense———— we were lucky that Parkinson had friends in high places and industry——- the Arab countries ran their own airlines which made life easier.
Parky always said it was a “balancing act” trying to get the figures right—— we were generally ok until the UIM wanted first class travel and Ritz accommodation for hordes of hangers on.
Believe it or not Mercury often stepped in with a helping hand wherever it was needed.
I couldn’t give you an accurate figure of the costs involved Pilgrim——— whilst we never made money out of the series——— a lot of people had a lot of fun.

[powerabout]

I wonder what cash a F1H20 event needs to turn up?
Just imagine how many hotel rooms you need?

[jackiewilson]

I wonder what cash a F1H20 event needs to turn up?
Just imagine how many hotel rooms you need?
Funnily Enough Pilgrim we never had any problems arranging accommodation or flights——- we stayed at some of the worlds best hotels———- usually arranged at a simple meeting with management and a few mentions in dispatches.
Theres usually more hotel rooms than customers in a large city.
Most airlines are “proud to be associated with” in exchange for around 100 cattle class tickets.

In the early days of the Paris Six Hours——— the organisers would pay you to turn up——- gasoline was free and there were some hefty cash awards.
All that changed as the event got popular———- It became the most expensive race in the world to participate in——— even the gasoline was double dear——— nobody could afford a protest at €100 a pop.
Its not cheap to put a race on——- but it never was!

[olboatman]

Happy New Year everyone!!! I had to chime in on this statement as I have restored a few antique and "rare" outboards. My thought on this statement is that Marks decision on "old blue" is a no-brainer.....why would you change anything on this "time piece" as isn't it the only one that lives on! Would one consider this a historical artifact and if so wouldn't "authentic" be the proper way? JMO
Gary

[Bob V]

Jackie - Happy Birthday...!!
(In about 682 hours)
(40,920 minutes)
(2,455,200 seconds)

[jackiewilson]

Hells teeth Bob———- that’s tempting fate a bit——- or even jumping the gun.
Its only a few months since my last fiasco of a celebratory affair !

[jackiewilson]

Happy New Year everyone!!! I had to chime in on this statement as I have restored a few antique and "rare" outboards. My thought on this statement is that Marks decision on "old blue" is a no-brainer.....why would you change anything on this "time piece" as isn't it the only one that lives on! Would one consider this a historical artifact and if so wouldn't "authentic" be the proper way? JMO
Gary.
When-we first acquired “Old Blue” you must remember that there’s lots of stuff missing off it anyway.
Whilst it’s original in a sense——— it’s an original bastardised version of old blue.
Unfortuately shillings have to be earned and food put on the table———— Im certain that some time in the future, a place will be found for old blue .

[FUJIMO]

Happy New Year everyone!!! I had to chime in on this statement as I have restored a few antique and "rare" outboards. My thought on this statement is that Marks decision on "old blue" is a no-brainer.....why would you change anything on this "time piece" as isn't it the only one that lives on! Would one consider this a historical artifact and if so wouldn't "authentic" be the proper way? JMO
Gary...Agreed. Got ta go original. It will cost a couple thousand or so to do it, but worth it in the end. Only way to do it, that I can think of, is to search out an original 1976 V-1750 & build the rest of Old Blue's powerhead, and the rest of a complete motor, with that. Not too hard. There are still a few out there. Some mounted on boats, that might have to be bought along with the motor, but not much choice any more. Sell off the boat, etc. Look in the freshwater states, and they will come apart to be restored, no problem. One trick though, is getting one with the first generation gearcase design. This is it...http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/QlgAAOSwHnFV07Hl/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F

[FUJIMO]

1976...http://www.adspast.com/store/skin1/images/pics19/mercury77blackmax.jpg

[FUJIMO]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb88/FirstAttemptVector/Hydrostream011.jpg

[FUJIMO]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb88/FirstAttemptVector/Hydrostream010.jpg...incorrect gearcase I believe...

[jackiewilson]

Fuji if your ever just passing through Port St Lucie——- take a while out and spend a few minutes at Marks place———- it’s right off the end of the runway at the airport .

[rckid74]

...Agreed. Got ta go original. It will cost a couple thousand or so to do it, but worth it in the end. Only way to do it, that I can think of, is to search out an original 1976 V-1750 & build the rest of Old Blue's powerhead, and the rest of a complete motor, with that. Not too hard. There are still a few out there. Some mounted on boats, that might have to be bought along with the motor, but not much choice any more. Sell off the boat, etc. Look in the freshwater states, and they will come apart to be restored, no problem. One trick though, is getting one with the first generation gearcase design. This is it...http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/QlgAAOSwHnFV07Hl/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F
I don't think that will work out Fugimo. Let me explain. --- OLD BLUE was never intended to be run on a boat and does not have any of the necessary mounting points for all sorts of accessories. It was designed to be run on a crankshaft dyno -- period. When running on the crankshaft dyno, all the accessory things like switch box, ignition coil, starter solenoid, fuel supply, water supply, throttle control, were ready mounted in the dyno cell and of course we didn't need a cowl. So trying to make it a runable, cowled boat engine by adding all that stuff will indeed bastardize it. The only thing bastardized about it right now (no offense meant Jackie) are the die cast cylinder heads which I had to put on it just to get it buttoned up and protected from further decay. The original sand cast heads were missing when I found the engine after many years in storage.

The only reason it's mounted on an undercarriage now is that it looked so good on the dyno, we thought it had a decent chance for production but we first needed to back up the dyno performance with some boat testing. Quickest way to do that was to somehow mount it on the inline six undercarriage. Hense what you see now. John and Jack did that boat testing with OLD BLUE at the lake in March of '72. The test results and some of John's comments about it are given in the MERC V6 HISTORY thread.

[jackiewilson]

I don't think that will work out Fugimo. Let me explain. --- OLD BLUE was never intended to be run on a boat and does not have any of the necessary mounting points for all sorts of accessories. It was designed to be run on a crankshaft dyno -- period. When running on the crankshaft dyno, all the accessory things like switch box, ignition coil, starter solenoid, fuel supply, water supply, throttle control, were ready mounted in the dyno cell and of course we didn't need a cowl. So trying to make it a runable, cowled boat engine by adding all that stuff will indeed bastardize it. The only thing bastardized about it right now (no offense meant Jackie) are the die cast cylinder heads which I had to put on it just to get it buttoned up and protected from further decay. The original sand cast heads were missing when I found the engine after many years in storage.

The only reason it's mounted on an undercarriage now is that it looked so good on the dyno, we thought it had a decent chance for production but we first needed to back up the dyno performance with some boat testing. Quickest way to do that was to somehow mount it on the inline six undercarriage. Hense what you see now. John and Jack did that boat testing with OLD BLUE at the lake in March of '72.
Mark always wondered what exactly we had with”Old Blue”————- lots of things just didn’t add up——— the old distributor——- the in line leg———- die cast heads——— the more he looked at it, the less sense he could make of it.
At the moment it would appear the best thing to do is NOTHING, except maybe put a glass case round it.
I have to say, it’s certainly,——— very suddenly become a really exciting piece of kit——- to this day, I will never understand why Rich or Roger never snapped up this slice of history.
Its provenance is indisputable so for outboard historians and puritans——— Old Blue is already priceless !
It was Sirois who told me about all the Lake X test sheets (including the Switzer findings)——— I had never ever set eyes on Old Blue and bought it over the phone.

What a brilliant start to the new year!

[rckid74]

Mark always wondered what exactly we had with”Old Blue”————- lots of things just didn’t add up——— the old distributor——- the in line leg———- die cast heads——— the more he looked at it, the less sense he could make of it.
At the moment it would appear the best thing to do is NOTHING, except maybe put a glass case round it.
I have to say, it’s certainly,——— very suddenly become a really exciting piece of kit——- to this day, I will never understand why Rich or Roger never snapped up this slice of history.
Its provenance is indisputable so for outboard historians and puritans——— Old Blue is already priceless !
It was Sirois who told me about all the Lake X test sheets (including the Switzer findings)——— I had never ever set eyes on Old Blue and bought it over the phone.

What a brilliant start to the new year!
Glad I could help you get the new year off to a good start Jackie. If there's anything further you or Mark would like to know about OLD BLUE just let me know.
I don't know about priceless but I once estimated it probably cost $50,000 or more to build and that was in 1971 dollars. The crankshaft and rods are from billets and there was no CNC machining back then. It was all operator skill with lots of jigs and fixtures.

[powerabout]

Glad I could help you get the new year off to a good start Jackie. If there's anything further you or Mark would like to know about OLD BLUE just let me know.
I don't know about priceless but I once estimated it probably cost $50,000 or more to build and that was in 1971 dollars. The crankshaft and rods are from billets and there was no CNC machining back then. It was all operator skill with lots of jigs and fixtures.
How did the rods end up being milled from a billet, were they cracked cap or like inline rods?

[rckid74]

How did the rods end up being milled from a billet, were they cracked cap or like inline rods?
The rods were from billets because we didn't have forgings at that point. The project had not been approved for production tooling until somewhat later. They were cracked right from the start.

[powerabout]

How strong are billet rods versus forged?
Do they need to be bigger?

[rckid74]

How strong are billet rods versus forged?
Do they need to be bigger?
I don't think we should be getting into this kind of a discussion here on Jackie's thread. If you'll ask it again on the Merc V6 history thread I'll be glad to answer there. Thanks

[jackiewilson]

I don't think we should be getting into this kind of a discussion here on Jackie's thread. If you'll ask it again on the Merc V6 history thread I'll be glad to answer there. Thanks

Seeing as how I have a vested interest in the motor———- and I am one of the custodians and it’s one of the tricks this particular old fart gets up to. I would be happy for the pair of you to hang around and answer any and all questions about old blue

[rckid74]

Seeing as how I have a vested interest in the motor———- and I am one of the custodians and it’s one of the tricks this particular old fart gets up to. I would be happy for the pair of you to hang around and answer any and all questions about old blue
OK Jackie! This isn't exactly about old racers, but I'm willing if you are.
Are billet rods better than forged? I don't know for sure but if they were both made of the same alloy, I'd prefer the forged because forging forces the grain structure in the steel to flow around the eyes on both ends of the rod and this should improve the fatigue life. But if you aren't going to be putting umpteen million miles on the engine, then billets will work just fine.

[jackiewilson]

OK Jackie! This isn't exactly about old racers, but I'm willing if you are.
Are billet rods better than forged? I don't know for sure but if they were both made of the same alloy, I'd prefer the forged because forging forces the grain structure in the steel to flow around the eyes on both ends of the rod and this should improve the fatigue life.
Thar ya go———- you learn something new everyday——— looking at it from a know nothing layman’s point of view I would go for the milled billet———- no reasons I can give you——— just a gut feeling and some common sense reasoning.
surely there are less flaws in a large billet you can mill six rods out of, than six forged rods?
Just me being cranky and argumentative on a subject of which I know nothing!

[powerabout]

here's a weird one....
the rods in the F1v8 are not cracked, 2 separate machined pieces, I dont understand that technology.

[rckid74]

here's a weird one....
the rods in the F1v8 are not cracked, 2 separate machined pieces, I dont understand that technology.
I'm not sure what engine you're talking about. When you say F1, I assume you're talking F1H20. But I thought those were all 2.5 Merc V6's. But the V8 must be OMC's big 2-stroke. F1 cars had a V8 several years ago but I don't think that's it. It matters if we're 2-stroke or 4-stroke. Straighten me out please.

[jackiewilson]

Got the blood results back today.
Turns out the “Athritis” is running riot through all my joints.
I had already told them I wasn’t old enough to have arthritis .
Put both hands on the desk and drop your pants————- heard that three times in the last five months ,whist I have a very nice,tight, and much admired rear end——— I hate it being used as a pin cushion.
So,with these 150 mph painkillers——- steroids and morphine in all the high places—— I’m expecting wonderment and ease.
Its a great relief to finally know what’s been keeping me out of the shop for so long———.

[milkdud]

OLD Blue was originally mounted on a inline 6 tower and foot. As it is still today. A special adaptor plate was cast to accomplish this. Pulling the powerhead off and putting it on a 1750 would make it into something it is not.


...Agreed. Got ta go original. It will cost a couple thousand or so to do it, but worth it in the end. Only way to do it, that I can think of, is to search out an original 1976 V-1750 & build the rest of Old Blue's powerhead, and the rest of a complete motor, with that. Not too hard. There are still a few out there. Some mounted on boats, that might have to be bought along with the motor, but not much choice any more. Sell off the boat, etc. Look in the freshwater states, and they will come apart to be restored, no problem. One trick though, is getting one with the first generation gearcase design. This is it...http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/QlgAAOSwHnFV07Hl/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F

[jackiewilson]

OLD Blue was originally mounted on a inline 6 tower and foot. As it is still today. A special adaptor plate was cast to accomplish this. Pulling the powerhead off and putting it on a 1750 would make it into something it is not.
Dont ever worry in that direction——-mark has done some wonderful restoration work on boats and engines ,
Old Blue will never be anything else other than what it is.
Yes, we may need a little help from our friends———- but when it’s done,everyone will be happy

[jackiewilson]

Finally got a good nights sleep———- think it’s the relief of not having to worry whether or not you got the dreaded “Lurgy”,
Think the HAPPY JABBY might have helped.
Time to get out into the real world.

[jackiewilson]

Happy new year to my friend “Rotory John” Sheldon.
I know you did not receive the tunnel boat I sent you, because I did.
Would appear Fedex did not have a contact telephone number——- so, in their wisdom, they sent it back to sender. Now how about that for quick thinking——— Lightning reflexes——- present day thinking——- using all the up to date technology. AND IT TOOK LESS THAN TWO MONTHS.
Bet a pound to a pincha Kit Carson never had that problem with the Pony Express ——— Or Dale Robertson with Wells Fargo, ——- somehow the mail would have made it ,
Get-it off to you SAP John——— pease send telephone number via PM.

[GENE LANHAM]

Got the blood results back today.
Turns out the “Athritis” is running riot through all my joints.
I had already told them I wasn’t old enough to have arthritis .
———.

Arthur Ritis? All of us over 85 know that gentleman. It only gets worse, Jackie---:nonod:

[jackiewilson]

Arthur Ritis? All of us over 85 know that gentleman. It only gets worse, Jackie---:nonod:
Thanks Gene, just what I need. Most painful thing I ever had since the baby.
Used to think it was just old folk and “ Wuzz’s” that suffered from ARTHURS.

[Rotary John]

Happy new year to my friend “Rotory John” Sheldon.
I know you did not receive the tunnel boat I sent you, because I did.
Would appear Fedex did not have a contact telephone number——- so, in their wisdom, they sent it back to sender. Now how about that for quick thinking——— Lightning reflexes——- present day thinking——- using all the up to date technology. AND IT TOOK LESS THAN TWO MONTHS.
Bet a pound to a pincha Kit Carson never had that problem with the Pony Express ——— Or Dale Robertson with Wells Fargo, ——- somehow the mail would have made it ,
Get-it off to you SAP John——— pease send telephone number via PM.
Jackie: I have had similar problems with Fed x. 2 days to send a package 150 miles in the same state. I won't use them if there is any way to avoid it. UPS or DHL provide much better service. I sent you a PM with my number. Thanks for trying.
Rotary John

[jackiewilson]

Will be up and about from now on———- will get on it PDQ.

[olboatman]

Thanks Gene, just what I need. Most painful thing I ever had since the baby.
Used to think it was just old folk and “ Wuzz’s” that suffered from ARTHURS.
jackie I was diagnosed with all three types of the s--t when I was 60! At 64 the pain isn't getin any better...just learnin to live with it! The lack of mobility is worse than the pain.
Gary

[jackiewilson]

jackie I was diagnosed with all three types of the s--t when I was 60! At 64 the pain isn't getin any better...just learnin to live with it! The lack of mobility is worse than the pain.
Gary
Well thanks Gary,——- you just filled me full of “No Confidence”———- you should get the quack to give you a shot of Morphine and Steroids———- THE HAPPY JABBY—— .
Result is a sore arse but you can get out of the armchair without the use of a forklift.
Needed to drill a couple of holes in a project———- couldn’t get my arms high enough to use the pillar drill. Walked out and locked the shop door.
Was on these 1500 mph pain killers last week———- found out I wasn’t supposed to drive with them——- it’s not just a case of being restricted——— red necks call it hogtied.
If Pruett had been alive, he would have found us one of his tribal cures——- smoked the pipe——- spun the weejie board pointer——- yelled a few ahoy u woys and I’d have gone home happy——— not cured mind you, but happy.
I once asked him if he ever used any of those O BEJOYFUL CURES—— he said, HELL NO , ICED TEA IS THE THE ONLY WAY TO GO!

[GENE LANHAM]

Well thanks Gary,——- you just filled me full of “No Confidence”———- you should get the quack to give you a shot of Morphine and Steroids———- THE HAPPY JABBY—— .


In Colorado the quacks can prescribe medical Mary Juana-haven't tried it yet--sounds tempting------:)

[AZMIDLYF]

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Lol...;)

[rckid74]

396285Here's a pic of old blue in her original form. She's mounted on the dyno stand ready to be put on the vertical shaft dyno. The arm sticking out to the right is the anchor for the throttle cable. I just thought it might help Mark to see this in making decisions about her restoration -- if any.

[AZMIDLYF]

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