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willabee

04-07-2021, 10:28 AM

...tell us why this was your mistake again willa...?https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=485073&d=1584563221

The 18' single Molinari's were not very forgiving boats. It seemed like the first mistake you made, they would put you in the water in a hurry. The one pictured had a much nicer personality. After we got to know each other, she would let me get away with a few experiments and a few errors. She would raise her nose and quiver, just to let me know she was paying attention, but always settled back down and ran across the water in front of us.
One day I let my mind drift as she was struttin' her stuff. She wiggled and wagged, but my mind was somewhere else. Ultimately, tired of being ignored, she lifted her nose to give me one last glimpse of how she was built, came back down for a breath and then took off for the heavens.
Definitely my mistake .....If I had given her the attention she deserved, she might still be skimming over waves today.

jackiewilson

04-07-2021, 11:14 AM

...at billy's warehouse in nipples florida...?

for Gods sake Fuji——never mention „“NIPPLES“ in front of the SQUIRT ——-HE GOES ALL OF A QUIVER ——- needs restraints . Stamps his feet something chronic.

jackiewilson

04-07-2021, 11:15 AM

The 18' single Molinari's were not very forgiving boats. It seemed like the first mistake you made, they would put you in the water in a hurry. The one pictured had a much nicer personality. After we got to know each other, she would let me get away with a few experiments and a few errors. She would raise her nose and quiver, just to let me know she was paying attention, but always settled back down and ran across the water in front of us.
One day I let my mind drift as she was struttin' her stuff. She wiggled and wagged, but my mind was somewhere else. Ultimately, tired of being ignored, she lifted her nose to give me one last glimpse of how she was built, came back down for a breath and then took off for the heavens.
Definitely my mistake .....If I had given her the attention she deserved, she might still be skimming over waves today.

Seem to remember Gary blowing over at least once ???????????
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FUJIMO

04-07-2021, 11:41 AM

for Gods sake Fuji——never mention „“NIPPLES“ in front of the SQUIRT ——-HE GOES ALL OF A QUIVER ——- needs restraints . Stamps his feet something chronic.
...sorry...forgot...;)...

GENE LANHAM

04-07-2021, 01:37 PM

This boat got around!

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This was the famous boat from Havasu 69--

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Bob Donahue--and Carole were the scorers for Bill and I--Parker 70

FUJIMO

04-07-2021, 01:50 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DrUK5BzHEcU/UsBF_s5_X6I/AAAAAAAAYI4/jlEl09PnzSg/s1600/American+Southwest+in+the+1970's+(6).jpg

WaterZebra

04-07-2021, 02:29 PM

The 18' single Molinari's were not very forgiving boats. It seemed like the first mistake you made, they would put you in the water in a hurry. The one pictured had a much nicer personality. After we got to know each other, she would let me get away with a few experiments and a few errors. She would raise her nose and quiver, just to let me know she was paying attention, but always settled back down and ran across the water in front of us.
One day I let my mind drift as she was struttin' her stuff. She wiggled and wagged, but my mind was somewhere else. Ultimately, tired of being ignored, she lifted her nose to give me one last glimpse of how she was built, came back down for a breath and then took off for the heavens.
Definitely my mistake .....If I had given her the attention she deserved, she might still be skimming over waves today.

I don't know if the behavior was different between the wood and glass versions but my glass Moli had a predictable trait. You could trim out until the front nose slope was horizontal. Anything more and you were guaranteed to blow over.

WaterZebra

04-07-2021, 02:32 PM

Mike looks like Grandpa Seebold!

WaterZebra

04-07-2021, 02:38 PM

This boat got around! Back in 1968, Glastron and Molinari made some kind of deal that allowed Glastron to produce and market fiberglass Molinari tunnel hulls. The 21' orange with black twin was used for the mold. Here's a pic of the wood boat and a glass version .....
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They look the same. The glass boats ran pretty well, once earned a 2nd place finish at Havasu in 1969.

The wood boat was rigged in Oskkosh with 1250 BP's, was test driven by Gary Garbrecht and I think it's first race was the 1969 Parker 9 Hour, driven by Bob Thompson. Bob didn't do well, he never really got the boat to get up and air out. It came back to Oshkosh and was used for the testing of many different components. During that time Mr. K told Garbrecht that he was banned from test driving. We hadn't hired any factory drivers yet, so I was the lucky replacement. I spent many enjoyable hours in that boat that summer.

Bob Massey ran it with BP's at Long Beach 1969. That wasn't a good course for that boat, but I think he finished second anyway. He did know how to run that thing .....
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More testing and then Bill Sirois ran it at the 1969 Havasu OWC still sporting BP gearcases. He finished 3rd, beginning a remarkable three year streak of great finishes at Havasu. Bill definately knew how to air it out. :thumbsup:
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Over the winter the boat was painted black with grey stripes, rerigged and given a name .....Up,Up and Away :smiletest: The first activity it saw in 1970 was the Parker 9 Hour, this time driven by our favorite guy, Billy Don Pruett. I recall that we put a pair of experimental powerheads on it, but still ran the BP lower units. Pruett blew the gearcases up three different times and had to call it a day.
Behind the red Molinari .....
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Sirois won with it at St. Mary's, this time using speedmasters. It was really windy and rough, but that rig could get over some water. He even passed Kitson's wing on the straightaway!

From there it went to Havasu, still dressed in black and won the big prize .....
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After Havasu 70, Merc's PR department took over. They put some BS PR paint job on the poor thing and sent it to dealers and to shows. It took a nice picture, but I'll always believe the boat should have toured as it raced (except for the chrome stacks, they were really cool :D).
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Pruett wanted to run the 1971 Havasu OWC and this boat was pulled off tour for him. He modified the fancy paint job so that he could put his number on it and it was fitted with a pair of new Twister I's. Turned out the boat had developed a bad leak which gave him some grief. It also proved to be not as fast as it was (probably due to the 500 extra pounds of paint it was carrying).
He ended up blowing over and I'm pretty sure the boat was used for a weiner roast at Lake X ..... sad ending for a Champ.
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Did 998 run again after being used a plug for the glass version? Does this mean the Reggie Fountain's twin glass Molinari was a descendant of the 998?

jackiewilson

04-08-2021, 03:51 PM

Mike looks like Grandpa Seebold!

oh-oh, now you’ve done it——— you can run, but you can’t hide !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway—— its Billy that looks just like grandpa —— So Lynne says .

FUJIMO

04-08-2021, 04:49 PM

http://www.seeboldsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Bill-Seebold-History-Seeboldsports.com-12.jpg

FUJIMO

04-09-2021, 11:23 AM

https://www.fastonwater.co.uk/images/billy-and-mike.jpg

jackiewilson

04-10-2021, 01:12 AM

Today i am extremely sad. Our Prince Phillip has died at the age of 99.
I am an absolute royalist and proud to be so.
I love my country and i am proud to be white.
If i could have chosen my origin —- its exactly what i would have chosen.
To be born in Yorkshire England—— i am an Englishman— god made it so.
Nothing and nobody is ,or are „“PERFECT“—— that‘s a fact. But my life has been as close as it gets to perfection. Could not have wished for anything better .
Some say you shape your own destiny. I wouldn’t even comment on that .
I would say one thing—— YOU HAVE TO SAIL CLOSE TO THE WIND TO GET ANYWHERE ——-

jackiewilson

04-10-2021, 02:43 AM

https://www.fastonwater.co.uk/images/billy-and-mike.jpg
two of the nicest human beings on earth—— lovely disposition———-‚till riled!!!!

jackiewilson

04-10-2021, 02:50 AM

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SO IT BEGINS——SUPERSHED !!!!!! Way overdue—-state of play today, [saturday] 48 hours and im moving in. Someone needs to get their arse in gear , AND A BIT SHARPISH!!!!!!!!!
Have a shed full of new machinery arriving next week——???????

2us70

04-10-2021, 09:52 AM

In the US that sill plate would have to be pressure treated for contact with concrete. Do you guys have less problem with termites and rot? Other wise looks like just like a similar building over here.

FUJIMO

04-10-2021, 12:30 PM

...nice slab jack. looks to be placed next to the neighbors fence or wall. no wasted room there...https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=485314&d=1618040661

FUJIMO

04-10-2021, 02:06 PM

...what amp electrical sub-panel you going to run out there Jack?...https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=485317&d=1618040775

FUJIMO

04-10-2021, 02:32 PM

...these must be pieces of a roll-up type door, or?...https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=485316&d=1618040737

jackiewilson

04-10-2021, 04:12 PM

ALL THE TIMBER IS “TANALISED”—- that basically means they can charge a lot more for it.
Will be the last shop i ever have , so its going to be exactly what i want . THE DOGS CAJONES ???
Gone madly overboard on insulation and timber sizes — what the hell, there’s no pockets in a shroud?
I WILL THOUGH MAKE THE BEST WORKSHOP ANYONE EVER HAD !

jackiewilson

04-11-2021, 01:00 AM

...these must be pieces of a roll-up type door, or?...https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=485316&d=1618040737

Over here , we would call it “NEW ENGLAND TYPE CLADDING”.
6” WIDE COMPOSITE BOARD. Feels like aluminium—- does not shrink or expand according to season.interlocking and drought proof. Again , outrageously expensive .
100 amp fuse box —- Buzz bars and breakers. Couple of RING MAINS and separate LED lighting system. Grandson fitting security camera, outside lighting and wi-if. He’s one of the new breed of Sparky’s——- outer space geeks that DONT think the worlds flat . ONWARDS AND UPWARDS GERONIMO.

jackiewilson

04-15-2021, 04:06 PM

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Been one hell of a week. No internet for three days, which was a two edged sword. SUPERSHED will have a lid on it by close of play Friday .
do have a „Boggerootle“ but no shower working yet! Beginning to hoot a little—- visiting Sam tomorrow, so i should smell quite sweet again for the weekend .
Be a couple of weeks before i get down to the dear diary bit again, so meanwhile,talk amongst yourselves

Lake X Kid

04-15-2021, 04:24 PM

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=485177&d=1582490566

Bill wave when you think you have a winning boat.

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jackiewilson

04-18-2021, 04:07 PM

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NO that’s the floor — not the bloody ceiling. Put down the second coat of flooring —-electrics and machinery go in tomorrow.

jackiewilson

04-26-2021, 01:16 AM

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There is a reason for no news ——— screwed up my shoulder , so its been a lot slower progress than might have been.
That’s just one of the four corners of the SUPERSHED—- JUST THREE TO GO !
I do have three eight foot long workbenches—- plus the two assembly points in the middle of the room.
only three more boxes to unpack——- need to do that today—- rain due Wednesday——- new lathe—- pillar drill and mill should be arriving later in the week.
But — best laid plans of MICE AND MEN. !!!!!!! [STEINBECK] .
Old people should not move house—— nice people become nasty—- they should go on a two week vacation !!!!!! Only return when the move has been completed by somebody else .

Lake X Kid

04-26-2021, 04:38 PM

Lake X Kid

04-26-2021, 04:46 PM

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jackiewilson

04-27-2021, 02:50 AM

If it were a marathon Race, then the Pride of OMC V8 just went into the pits for a lengthy time, with a major adjustment needed.

And "Old Racers" has an opportunity to take the overall S&F viewing lead.

~~~

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AT my time of life Roy, I’ve given up racing. Instead i enjoy remembering. The places I’ve been and the friends that i made .
My shop will soon be up and running —- this time with a bunch more room to fall about in .
Been a good thing really —- uncovered some early wings —— even before the REDWINGS —— GENE AND TED HAVE IDENTICALS—-just the mounts are different.—- about five. In all. The white canopied 700 and the twin to it —the 7000. a black DIABLO 3— And a couple of wood finish wings.
The trans- Atlantic Gentry Traveller———- WHITE TORNADO——-MTI——GEICO AND LUCAS OIL. As well as a bunch of circuit boats .
Lasse does it his way—- combining face book with S + F —— makes good figures — its not illegal—- rest of us , we just love the site. One step at a time .
Of all the sites that are on S+F — willabee‘s HOT SINGLES — has to be the top—number one site.
Factual—knowledgable and informative. Fiercely loyal to Mercury . Woe betide anyone who disputes the fact that the MIGHTY KT pissed all over the JONRUDE ROTARY .
You will have to forgive him for being a tad “CRAGGY” —- comes from being around Pruett and Garbrecht for long periods .
Wont be long before im back in the frame —- posting nonsense —— getting it right sometimes, and then getting it horribly wrong on occasions. But does it matter ??? We are old past our sell by date boat racers. Just enjoying life .
By the way, it was Stickles 81st birthday yesterday———- a call from any of the old farts would be appreciated!!
my sons MUCH LOVED WIFE VICKY. Died after a very long illness . Been hard on everyone .

willabee

04-27-2021, 09:55 AM

..... — willabee‘s HOT SINGLES — Factual—knowledgable and informative. ..... Woe betide anyone who disputes the fact that the MIGHTY KT pissed all over the JONRUDE ROTARY .
You will have to forgive him for being a tad “CRAGGY” —- comes from being around Pruett and Garbrecht for long periods .

CRAGGY ?

..... The Mighty KT .....

486138 1st Overall Redwood City .....

4861401st Overall Walker Lake .....

486139Taking the lead Provo .....

4861411st Overall Elsinore .....

486143Another celebration .

The Mighty KT
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:thumbsup::thumbsup: :D :thumbsup::thumbsup:

jackiewilson

04-27-2021, 11:13 AM

Whoops—- told you!.

Rotary John

04-27-2021, 04:38 PM

First overall Provo
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jackiewilson

04-28-2021, 12:34 AM

Now now boys —— no dolly throwing !!!!!!! It’s usually me that’s under attack from all quarters .

powerabout

04-28-2021, 12:49 AM

we had few KT's in OZ, they were fast

Old boy

04-28-2021, 07:27 PM

we had few KT's in OZ, they were fast
Hey Powerabout,
With all due respect, I feel some members may become confused with your mention of "OZ" in this instance? You are meaning "Australia" in this case, rather than the racing class OZ.. aren't you?

I hope I'm not out of line, if so I sincerely apologise.

powerabout

04-28-2021, 07:45 PM

Hey Powerabout,
With all due respect, I feel some members may become confused with your mention of "OZ" in this instance? You are meaning "Australia" in this case, rather than the racing class OZ.. aren't you?

I hope I'm not out of line, if so I sincerely apologise.
Yes sorry I can see that could be confusing.
Did you ever race a KT back in the day or just outboards, if I have guessed who you are??

Old boy

04-28-2021, 10:15 PM

Only outboards.
Perhaps this conversation should be continued as a PM, so as to keep this thread free of banter?

powerabout

04-28-2021, 10:45 PM

this thread is only banter from grumpy old men, great stories and a few photos...lol

jackiewilson

04-29-2021, 01:05 AM

this thread is only banter from grumpy old men, great stories and a few photos...lol
BANG ON——- THIS SITE IS FREE TO EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!
Just keep on BANTERING and ABITCHIN and AMOANING —- besides ,it makes me feel a whole lot better .
If somebody posts a few piccies, then so be it . We all like the same things—- pretty girls and boats, engines , and tales of derring-do. We are all special people on this site , and yet ordinary but extraordinary? Work that one out.
Frankly my dear—- i dont give a flying fart whether you are black, white, yellow or pink !!!!!!!!!!!!
Fortunate enough to be have been born in Yorkshire or Sheboygan —— or unfortunate enough to have been sired in Australia or Kazakhstan.
If you can live and breath, write a line —- tell a lie and keep a straight face ——-WELCOME !!!!!!!!!

FUJIMO

04-29-2021, 09:16 AM

...i second the motion...:thumbsup:

Lake X Kid

04-29-2021, 05:40 PM

BANG ON——- THIS SITE IS FREE TO EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!
Just keep on BANTERING and ABITCHIN and AMOANING —- besides ,it makes me feel a whole lot better .
If somebody posts a few piccies, then so be it . We all like the same things—- pretty girls and boats, engines , and tales of derring-do. We are all special people on this site ,
[...]
If you can live and breath, write a line —- tell a lie and keep a straight face ——-WELCOME !!!!!!!!!

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Lake X Kid

04-29-2021, 05:52 PM

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Old boy

04-29-2021, 06:39 PM

Hey Powerabout,
I must admit, (at the time) I thought I was in the hallowed "Mercury over the Years" thread. That's why I was very reluctant to continue. The grumpy old men have certainly set me straight, since!

Yes, I raced outboards (predominantly Mercury) in the 70's and 80's. I raced short circuit, marathon and offshore. I was a member of Sydney Outboard Club (SOC), RMYC Port Hacking and AOPC.
My friends from that era include Medaris, MacIntyre, Hudson, Troy, Toyer and Evans (to name a few)

Cheers,

powerabout

04-30-2021, 12:08 AM

yes, this is a Merc thread but with OMC f1v8's and Rotaries just allowed.

jackiewilson

04-30-2021, 01:00 AM

powerabout

04-30-2021, 08:32 AM

Not quite right—- read the label—- TRICKS THAT OLD RETIRED RACERS GET UP TO !!!!!!!!!!
SOME OF US RACED ALL MAKES— MERCURY —CARNITI—-KÖNIG —ANZANI —COVENTRY CLIMAX [ {YES I DID, JUST THE ONCE} —-CHRYSLER. YAMAHA [MERCURY COPIES]. SUZI’S AND EVEN “JONRUDES”. So no bias here, Preferences ?????
my preference would have to be 2 strokes (and the rotary) 4 slugs are like putting a v6 in a F1 car...oh they did I hear?
F1 v8 car engine in a boat and now your talking...

jackiewilson

04-30-2021, 09:03 AM

my preference would have to be 2 strokes (and the rotary) 4 slugs are like putting a v6 in a f1 car...oh they did i hear?
F1 v8 car engine in a boat and now your talking...

i did !!!!!!!!!

Lake X Kid

05-01-2021, 01:06 PM

my preference would have to be 2 strokes (and the rotary) 4 slugs are like putting a v6 in a F1 car...oh they did I hear?
F1 v8 car engine in a boat and now your talking...

V8 inboards are nice, however a clamped-on V8 works pretty good too.
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Lake X Kid

05-01-2021, 01:53 PM

V8 inboards versus tunnel V6.

Clamp-on power can/will raise its proud flag.

https://youtu.be/pbZHr_l1Ev4

Lake X Kid

05-01-2021, 02:01 PM

In Long Beach, CA they use to have a Match Race has the final heat race of the day.
However not in the last decade. A couple of years age I approached Ross (the Commodore) about reinstating the match race. His response was if the Long Beach Sprint Nationals had enough time in the schedule.
It has not been showcased in the last ten or more years.

However the Aussie's know how to put on a great Match Race show, featuring different classes in the same final heat race.

https://youtu.be/Cs0Sf-rykcQ

jackiewilson

05-01-2021, 04:20 PM

V8 inboards are nice, however a clamped-on V8 works pretty good too.
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486326.
There is so much more to this story than has ever been published.
Only one who would tell you the whole story is DAVID PARKINSON. The whole thing was his idea in the first place ??????
that was the second event ——— first time it was run , was with Mercury motors . Believe Jones was the pilot with a Burgess hull .
Result was fixed on the orders of the sponsors. Maybe Mike Butler has the details. I was sworn to secrecy—- dont even know if the statute of limitation is applicable ?

FUJIMO

05-01-2021, 06:01 PM

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/db3f13_1f91a68ea2de46d3b2b8a8bc4179c512~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_529,h_347,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/1975%20T%20Percival%20in%20JPS%20(1).webp

FUJIMO

05-01-2021, 06:02 PM

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Speedboatraces_drie_uren_van_Amsterdam_no_10_Tom_Percival%2C_Bestanddeelnr_928-1635.jpg/640px-Speedboatraces_drie_uren_van_Amsterdam_no_10_Tom_Percival%2C_Bestanddeelnr_928-1635.jpg

FUJIMO

05-01-2021, 06:31 PM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/images/2019/01/30/TELEMMGLPICT000187025060_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bql34tepeONVYpHPCLADsDVPSBINxGMVrfNNh7rPtS2yE.jpeg?imwidth= 450

powerabout

05-01-2021, 07:17 PM

V8 inboards versus tunnel V6.

Clamp-on power can/will raise its proud flag.

https://youtu.be/pbZHr_l1Ev4

F1v8 tunnel boat would have made that a different race

powerabout

05-01-2021, 07:21 PM

.
There is so much more to this story than has ever been published.
Only one who would tell you the whole story is DAVID PARKINSON. The whole thing was his idea in the first place ??????
that was the second event ——— first time it was run , was with Mercury motors . Believe Jones was the pilot with a Burgess hull .
Result was fixed on the orders of the sponsors. Maybe Mike Butler has the details. I was sworn to secrecy—- dont even know if the statute of limitation is applicable ?

There was a vid with them turning around and running back, the boat killed the car in that event due to the high 180 corner speed

jackiewilson

05-02-2021, 01:20 AM

F1v8 tunnel boat would have made that a different race

Course it would Pilgrim———- or would it ??????? V8’s never could handle a tight circuit as good as a Merc!!!
Just as an aside—- depended who the driver was too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

powerabout

05-02-2021, 03:16 AM

Course it would Pilgrim———- or would it ??????? V8’s never could handle a tight circuit as good as a Merc!!!
Just as an aside—- depended who the driver was too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i was think about the speed in the straights...

jackiewilson

05-02-2021, 03:30 AM

i was think about the speed in the straights...

MITIGATING FACTORS PILGRIM !!!!!!!!!
Length of the run ?????
Dead start or rolling???????
F1 car motors could set up the telemetry for any occasion to a fine degree——— !!!
Outboards can do two things, PROP AND TRIM. plus the huge cajones that tend to favour tunnel boat jockeys every time .
Top speed ?????? Not a tunnel boat in existence that can match the top end of an F1 car.
Not counting the offshore rigs — they need a mile run before reaching anything like top end !!

Just read through that—— i sound like a really cranky cantankerous OLD bastard— I’m not really, just a tad “contentious” !!!!!

powerabout

05-02-2021, 03:55 AM

i meant the v6 f1 boat versus the v8 displacement, which seemed very slow in the corners but good down the staight.

jackiewilson

05-02-2021, 04:30 AM

i meant the v6 f1 boat versus the v8 displacement, which seemed very slow in the corners but good down the staight.

BRISTOL WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE V8 JONRUDES AGAINST THE V6 MERCURY.
Seebold Versus Percival——— the Merc was a tad quicker than the Rude —- Billy could have squeezed Tom on to the bouy a couple of times, too much of a “fair” [ gentleman] driver —-only a spit second between them at the finish. Just saying——- in spite of claims to the contrary, it was never a fair playing field—- OMC had far too much money tied up in the OZ spectacle to risk Mercury pissing on their parades.
Still didn’t stop them from going belly up !!!!!!!! Just saying.

jackiewilson

05-02-2021, 10:58 AM

You know what—- That damn lucky SOB Hamilton had all the luck and won again— just how bad is that? For someone who can’t drive and only wins because he has the fastest car on the circuit, he is not shaping up too badly .
(7 GP wins —99 pole positions— seven world championships] i think he has given a good account of himself.

Rotary John

05-02-2021, 02:09 PM

BRISTOL WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE V8 JONRUDES AGAINST THE V6 MERCURY.
Seebold Versus Percival——— the Merc was a tad quicker than the Rude —- Billy could have squeezed Tom on to the bouy a couple of times, too much of a “fair” [ gentleman] driver —-only a spit second between them at the finish. Just saying——- in spite of claims to the contrary, it was never a fair playing field—- OMC had far too much money tied up in the OZ spectacle to risk Mercury pissing on their parades.
Still didn’t stop them from going belly up !!!!!!!! Just saying.
Seems I recall Billy was driving a 3.4l V-6 vs a 3l V-8. Last time I checked the number of cylinders didn't win races, it is HP.

peterse90

05-02-2021, 05:59 PM

From a post I did in HOT SINGLES a couple of years ago;

I wish I could say I was actually there to witness this, but this is from the story in the POWERBOAT & WATERSKIING issue.

Bristol 1982 Bill Seebold brought one boat but (2) powerheads. A 2 litre powerhead for ON and a 2 litre powerhead bored an extra cc so he could qualify to run OZ against the OMC V-8's.

Bill won the ON class and the Duke of York trophy for the 4th time.

But the amazing story is he also won the OZ class and the Embassy Gold Cup defeating the 3.5 litre OMC V8's. According to the story they only had about 17 minutes between the ON and OZ heats to change the powerheads. For the OZ final Seebold just made it to the starting dock a few seconds before the 1 minute gun with Leo his mechanic still on the boat fastening the cowl - Leo literally had to jump off the boat into the water.

Seebold later admitted that this was the most demanding and hardest race he ever drove. The Bristol crowd and even the OMC drivers were truly amazed.

I think there is also a really good POWERBOAT article about this race with a headline something like "SEEBOLD DEEP SIXES THE V8's".

Although I wasn't in Bristol in 1982 to personally witness this, I was there I think it was 1983 and it was spectacular !!
Perhaps Jackie was there in 1982 because Mark Wilson finished second to Bill in the ON class.
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Mark Poole ModVP

05-03-2021, 12:04 AM

That race was most likely the greatest thing any driver ever accomplished in one weekend. There are several youtube vids of the F1 and F2 heats.

jackiewilson

05-03-2021, 12:51 AM

Billy once told me that the 2 litre ON motor was quicker than the bored out 2+ litre motor he used in the final race.
as Mark said long ago—“if it wasn’t for that damned Seebold ,i could have been famous”
He actually finished second to Billy a total of five times at Bristol .
Billy could run his Seebold harder than any other driver , he was always 10/10ths at Bristol .
Steve West and Leo did the motor swop in record time —— there were no RATTLE GUNS in those days, just nimble fingers and a will to win.
dare not tell you how much cash Billy stashed away on his body ——- ?????only Parkinson could do that.

powerabout

05-03-2021, 01:17 AM

Speaking of Parkinson, make sure all the history of Fonda gets collated and safely put somewhere.

jackiewilson

05-03-2021, 02:45 AM

Speaking of Parkinson, make sure all the history of Fonda gets collated and safely put somewhere.

”COLLATED”. Huh!— as Pruetts daughter used to say—- THATS ONE OF THOSE BIG WORDS, LIKE HELIOCOPTOR AND MAYONNAISE!“. Why use a little word like „“SAVE“ when you have big words like „“COLLATED“ you can use——-.
Parky has just about every item of competition clothing MERCURY ever produced ———remember the red sports jacket, to be used only at formal presentations. And the silver barrage balloon material jackets all mercury personnel had —— Belts, ties and shirts, hats and badges—- he has more than Mercury has. Records, dates and photos of every FONDA and Canon race —- complete with pictures of every driver ever to run a Merc in a FONDA race.
His wife Muriel will make sure the rag and bone man doesn’t get them

jackiewilson

05-03-2021, 06:53 AM

Seems I recall Billy was driving a 3.4l V-6 vs a 3l V-8. Last time I checked the number of cylinders didn't win races, it is HP.
Not quite right Johnno—— Billy was running a bored two litre V6, to comply with the new RULE OMC introduced to the OZ class. Capacity suddenly had a MINIMUM CAPACITY!!!!!!!!
PREVIOUS TO THIS TIME OZ WAS UNLIMITED AND WITHOUT A MINIMUM CAPACITY.
Was always told that the minimum V8 horsepower was way over 400—- even with a 3 Litre V8 ??????? Or was that just publicity?????? .
Pity the factories could never agree on anything. OMC threw the dollies and said you can’t play in my game——— .
Fonda series had proved itself to be the best series ever , costing Mercury very little .
OZ series went through five million in three years—— great for the teams —- bubble had to burst and did in a big way. Plenty commissioners in the UIM had to look elsewhere for a supplement to their earnings . Rolfe Fraulin in particular.

powerabout

05-03-2021, 07:23 AM

look at it now all teams sing the Merc tune in F1 and F2 or f off..
Hand in glove with the UIM
Texas f1 growing in USA and Downunder...carby 2.5

lars strom

05-03-2021, 11:09 AM

Not quite right Johnno—— Billy was running a bored two litre V6, to comply with the new RULE OMC introduced to the OZ class. Capacity suddenly had a MINIMUM CAPACITY!!!!!!!!
PREVIOUS TO THIS TIME OZ WAS UNLIMITED AND WITHOUT A MINIMUM CAPACITY.
Was always told that the minimum V8 horsepower was way over 400—- even with a 3 Litre V8 ??????? Or was that just publicity?????? .
Pity the factories could never agree on anything. OMC threw the dollies and said you can’t play in my game——— .
Fonda series had proved itself to be the best series ever , costing Mercury very little .
OZ series went through five million in three years—— great for the teams —- bubble had to burst and did in a big way. Plenty commissioners in the UIM had to look elsewhere for a supplement to their earnings . Rolfe Fraulin in particular.

I should post this on my "Fact thread" but not ready to start that one up again.
This is the entry list for Bristol-Embassy GP 1977. (I was there racing a brand new Molinari with Volvo/Konig power in the OE class)
Long before the OMC V8 and also before the Merc T-4.
You can clearly read ON 1500cc -2000cc...OZ - 2000cc upwards.
Every class has a minimum cc including OZ.
Boat Mercury and OMC raced the OZ class.
Now to 1982 when Mr. Bill did a fantastic job and won the OZ class.
(I was there racing F3/OE.)
This was the second year for OMC V8 drivers and Bristol was always early in the season. This was back when the V8 used a 12 inch mid section and carb powerhead..Very top-heavy and the boats was not yet designed right for the V8. Molinari was probably the only one in his titanium boat.
We can all speculate but the 6 inch mid section and the more powerful fuel injection powerhead would have been way more fit for Bristol..(last picture) but was not available 1982.
Funny is..the new Merc F1-V8 4 stroke is using a 12 inch mid section...good luck with that..!!

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Rotary John

05-03-2021, 02:47 PM

Why is it Wilson/Cosworth is ON one time and OZ another? When it should have been KT in both. And Jackie has the balls to complain about UIM???

jackiewilson

05-03-2021, 03:26 PM

Why is it Wilson/Cosworth is ON one time and OZ another? When it should have been KT in both. And Jackie has the balls to complain about UIM???

johnno, i didn’t make the rules , or write them, i simply kept within the rules . The ON rules that you must not exceed 2,000 cc!! When i raced ON that’s exactly what i did .
quote for an outboard ——— it must be removable from the boat— complete with its drive ???????
I adhered strictly to the rule book
Same with the OZ- strictly according to the rule book. The DFV was a three litre motor, so it had to run in the OZ class——-All the Cosworth engined boats i ran were scrutineered by a registered UIM scrutiniser . Without that certificate —- there was no way you could put the boat in the water !!!!!!
Not absolutely certain, but i think only the APBA ran KT class—-only in the USA i never heard of a UIM class for The KT’s’, Could have been added after my time. If i read it wrong, i apologise .

Yes, i do have the balls to complain about the UIM—— it has never done anything for me that didn’t cost. THe stupidity of SOME of its commissioners beggars belief . [ there were a few HONEST ones —- but they were rare as rocking horse sh-t.

Lake X Kid

05-03-2021, 03:42 PM

Watermark

05-03-2021, 07:30 PM

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Another significant 1980's chapter in Tunnel Boat Racing's History was written in 1985 with the development of the First Safety Capsule.

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Team Managers Chris Hodges and Cees van der Velden led these changes with the backing of OMC, together with title sponsors and organizers of the F1 Powerboat Championship. Jack Leek can be seen in the background with two representatives of PRO ONE, the Belgian promotional syndicate for The Champion Spark Plug F1 World Championship Series in 1985.

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jackiewilson

05-04-2021, 03:03 AM

Hi Lassie — nice of you to call !!!!

Before Bristol there was no such thing as the FORMULAS ——-was purely the brain child of CHARLIE SHEPPARD .
He invented it [or them if you like}.
Spectators found it hard to understand the different classes , so Charlie made it simple for them —— no longer the complex lettering of the various capacities —- or shapes — ie V bottoms or tunnels . So he came up with the simple idea of Formula ONE —tWO—-three and four.
limit for Formula one was set at two litres .
Was hugely successful—— so much so, the UIM decided to adopt the formula idea and write it in the rule book !!!!!!!!!!
That’s when the jiggery— Pokery started . For two years there was an upper limit on race boats of two litres —— sport was controlled until then.
Then they wanted a 2,5 limit ——- then a 3 litre —- then a four litre , then twin engines . The whole thing was out of control. You could race with unlimited number of motors ——- unlimited capacity.
They simply ran under the old HYDROPLANE OZ CLASS . YOU RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG ????
THATS WHEN THE ON WAS LIMITED TO 2 LITRES ——- OZ WAS ANYTHING OVER TWO LITRES .INCLUDING TWO LITRES ?????????? As can be seen in your postings Lasse !!!!
Right up to the time OMC changed the OZ class to OVER two litres —— 15 minutes between heats —- very slim chance indeed of getting the boat out and swopping Powerheads — and getting the rig to the start line in time . BUT THE TEAM DID JUST THAT,,,,that Billy „“BIG SIXED THE V8‘S WITH A BORED OUT TWO LITRE!!!!!!

Old boy

05-04-2021, 04:21 AM

jackiewilson

05-04-2021, 07:04 AM

Whoa there a little
Another significant 1980's chapter in Tunnel Boat Racing's History was written in 1985 with the development of the First Safety Capsule.

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Team Managers Chris Hodges and Cees van der Velden led these changes with the backing of OMC, together with title sponsors and organizers of the F1 Powerboat Championship. Jack Leek can be seen in the background with two representatives of PRO ONE, the Belgian promotional syndicate for The Champion Spark Plug F1 World Championship Series in 1985.

486450whoa, slow down a little there Mark——-lets get things in APPLE PIE order here first.
Hodges had worked with MACLAREN to perfect a safety cell in an Fi car. He decided to build a safety cell for race boats. [after Percy was killed ]. Was Parkinson who got him his first £500 to finance the scheme. Verden went with a Dutch university to create a pod.
Front runners in the safety cell race in England were BILL BROWN with his all aluminium device . And Hodges with his carbon and fibreglass construction.
Bill managed to borrow a million pound mannequin from the British motor research to drop test the cell. Well, he succeeded in killing the Mannequin, after dropping it into the water from 50feet .
Hodges strapped himself into his capsule ——- crane took him up to 75 feet . Hodges wanted higher still . Crane lifted him to 100 feet —- then dropped him !!!!!
Hodges was unhurt . Way forward was with the Hodges cell. Rest is history. I NEVER ONCE HEARD OF OMC INVESTING IN THE HODGES SAFETY CELL.

jackiewilson

05-04-2021, 07:22 AM

LASSE take another look at page 36 about the F1 OZ CLASS—- the bit you outlined in red—- see where it reads, 2000 CC UPWARDS ?????????
now take a look at the field of runners ——— eight three litre RUDES [ ONLY SIX TURNED UP ]—- A COUPLE OF COSWORTHS—— THE REST WERE ALL 2LITRE MERCURYS——- RUNNING OZ ????????

scroll down to the next page—- there it says OZ class is OVER 2000 CC. THATS THE DAMN POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE—-
Reason for all this is the simple fact that six RUDES at Bristol would not make much of a show !!!!!!!
Unfortunately the 2 litre Merc was beating the three litre RUDES ——— THATS why the rules were changed !!!!!!!!!

WaterZebra

05-04-2021, 09:33 AM

I should post this on my "Fact thread" but not ready to start that one up again.
This is the entry list for Bristol-Embassy GP 1977. (I was there racing a brand new Molinari with Volvo/Konig power in the OE class)
Long before the OMC V8 and also before the Merc T-4.
You can clearly read ON 1500cc -2000cc...OZ - 2000cc upwards.
Every class has a minimum cc including OZ.
Boat Mercury and OMC raced the OZ class.
Now to 1982 when Mr. Bill did a fantastic job and won the OZ class.
(I was there racing F3/OE.)
This was the second year for OMC V8 drivers and Bristol was always early in the season. This was back when the V8 used a 12 inch mid section and carb powerhead..Very top-heavy and the boats was not yet designed right for the V8. Molinari was probably the only one in his titanium boat.
We can all speculate but the 6 inch mid section and the more powerful fuel injection powerhead would have been way more fit for Bristol..(last picture) but was not available 1982.
Funny is..the new Merc F1-V8 4 stroke is using a 12 inch mid section...good luck with that..!!

Good point about 6 inch mid?!! A 6 inch mid would have caused a redesign of the APX swivel and trim casting and the overdrive box (height) wouldn't fit either. Wonder why they didn't do that since the top of the #6 gearcase is completely different anyway? If I remember correctly, the first V8 six inch mid center swivel castings kept cracking and breaking?

Watermark

05-04-2021, 09:38 AM

Whoa there a little whoa, slow down a little there Mark——-lets get things in APPLE PIE order here first.
Hodges had worked with MACLAREN to perfect a safety cell in an Fi car. He decided to build a safety cell for race boats. [after Percy was killed ]. Was Parkinson who got him his first £500 to finance the scheme. Verden went with a Dutch university to create a pod.
Front runners in the safety cell race in England were BILL BROWN with his all aluminium device . And Hodges with his carbon and fibreglass construction.
Bill managed to borrow a million pound mannequin from the British motor research to drop test the cell. Well, he succeeded in killing the Mannequin, after dropping it into the water from 50feet .
Hodges strapped himself into his capsule ——- crane took him up to 75 feet . Hodges wanted higher still . Crane lifted him to 100 feet —- then dropped him !!!!!
Hodges was unhurt . Way forward was with the Hodges cell. Rest is history. I NEVER ONCE HEARD OF OMC INVESTING IN THE HODGES SAFETY CELL.

Jackie, facts and details are important and make a statement into a story. Thanks for those.

As we know, "It takes a village to raise a child" - and, as you point out, numerous organizations and people were involved and must be credited for the cell's ultimate development. Chris Hodges led the pack and, together with Cees appeared at Munich in May 1985, the first race of the season, towing brand new team boats with safety cells. David Burgess was still working on his, and by September in Milan, I was strapped in. From my count, I believe there were only 10 or 11 F1 drivers racing with cells that year.

As for investors, OMC, via PRO ONE, provided significant funding to several teams to ensure F1's success in '85. Safety was paramount given the tragic year we had in '84. Team Percival Hodges Racing, as others, were benefactors, so directly or indirectly, OMC was at the very least an enabler in this process.

All-in-all, 1985 was a significant year for boat racing. Sadly, several F1 drivers died and others were badly injured before the bull was taken by horns. I wonder how many lives have since been saved over the past 36 years thanks to this single development? One thing is certain; Be it circuit or offshore, inboard, outboard, jet, whatever... today's drivers and their families are the better for it.

Watermark

05-04-2021, 09:45 AM

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Watermark

05-04-2021, 11:07 AM

1985 - Safety Cockpits had arrived....

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Mark Poole ModVP

05-04-2021, 11:56 AM

I read back in the day that Hodges was dropped from a crane but....100 feet?? That is a long way up!! A pancake landing and that would have hurt!

jackiewilson

05-04-2021, 12:29 PM

Mark—- its got to be on record somewhere—- i know he went higher than any of the others. Had the cajones to sit it it himself —- then get dropped .
Osprey were ready to pull him out at all times.

WaterZebra

05-04-2021, 01:42 PM

Jackie, facts and details are important and make a statement into a story. Thanks for those.

As we know, "It takes a village to raise a child" - and, as you point out, numerous organizations and people were involved and must be credited for the cell's ultimate development. Chris Hodges led the pack and, together with Cees appeared at Munich in May 1985, the first race of the season, towing brand new team boats with safety cells. David Burgess was still working on his, and by September in Milan, I was strapped in. From my count, I believe there were only 10 or 11 F1 drivers racing with cells that year.

As for investors, OMC, via PRO ONE, provided significant funding to several teams to ensure F1's success in '85. Safety was paramount given the tragic year we had in '84. Team Percival Hodges Racing, as others, were benefactors, so directly or indirectly, OMC was at the very least an enabler in this process.

All-in-all, 1985 was a significant year for boat racing. Sadly, several F1 drivers died and others were badly injured before the bull was taken by horns. I wonder how many lives have since been saved over the past 36 years thanks to this single development? One thing is certain; Be it circuit or offshore, inboard, outboard, jet, whatever... today's drivers and their families are the better for it.

Biggest blunder the APBA did was to include the cockpit specs within the safety section of the rulebook. Certified cockpit builders was a bungled afterthought. Garbrecht and Seebold got me out of a paperwork pickle thanks to the nearsightedness of the APBA.

jackiewilson

05-05-2021, 02:06 AM

Watermark

05-05-2021, 08:53 AM

Afraid i was one of the doubters——- told Hodges he was crazy, who in their right mind would want to be strapped into an upturned boat. We had one or two heated discussions on the subject.
Ok, so i was wrong—- wasn’t the first, certainly wont be the last time i was wrong about something .
Once in a hundred is 99 percent right—— i can live with that !!!!!!!
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Hodges was a great innovator. Adjustable wings — tail fins ——most of his ideas were dubious to say the least. But, he never made a red cent out of the capsule, or safety cell. It was free for all boat builders, worldwide .
He would nail the silliest little add-ons —- strakes—rubbing rails —- wind deflectors, he never stopped trying.
Must be in his 80‘s now —— last time i saw him, he was helping Mark in Stuart, draw up the design for“MOONLIGHT LADY“. High speed 50‘ boat.

Jackie, four decades ago we were all doubters. Those concerns will always be there. If any driver doesn't fear being strapped in and unconscious underwater, they are missing an important life-appreciation chip. Survival at that point depends solely on the rescue team. Thank goodness we had the commitment of the Ospreys - it was a massive responsibility on their shoulders, as it is with every rescue team and race organizer around the globe.

The risk of crashing will always be high. Chances are that cells and enclosed cockpits offer a higher level protection than nothing at all - Quite sure that Chris Hodges had a few "damned if you do, damned if you don't" decision-making moments himself back then. At the end of day, we still need to depend on others, hopefully experts in their field, to keep us safe.

How lucky we were that Chris Hodges hung in after he lost his dear friend, Tom Percival. Truly a great man and innovator.

FUJIMO

05-05-2021, 09:13 AM

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jackiewilson

05-05-2021, 09:27 AM

CHARLES RYDAL SHOOTER ——-Chas to all his friends, was twenty years old when he decided he wanted to be my mechanic . Grammar school kid , super intelligent, good at everything. Understood electrics and electronics . Had the patience of JOB. We wandered round the world together , me breaking things, him fixing things . I BLAMED HIM FOR EVERYTHING!!! He was my safety valve . Best friend, confidante. Kept me out of trouble , and got me out when i got into. Could speak french fluently, but with a distinct English overtone ! A truly quintessential English gentlemen.
I decided i had to concentrate on the garage business for a couple of years . That was when Chas went to Tom and Bob as spannerman. He loved his time with them. We remained friends up to the week he died .
Had some beautiful girlfriends —- but never married .
Highlight of his life was the trip to Valleyfield in 1976—-
I have given Chas a special place in the book—- a whole chapter , about the life and times with CHARLES RYDAL SHOOTER. Was the single biggest influence in my life too.

jackiewilson

05-06-2021, 01:13 AM

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Happiest loneliest man i ever met in my life CHAS SHOOTER.
You could not be around Chas without laughing— he could brighten up even the darkest of days.
He even turned down the job Mercury offered him. Preferred to stay home and look after his mother—
THE DUCHESS as he always referred to her.
He did race boats, for years, but loved tinkering with motors more, if you want to know more about Chas, you“ll simply have to wait and read the book.
its up to 120,000 words by now , afraid I’ve done very little to it over the last year—- imagined it would be finished by now——- but , you know what happened to imagination!!!!!!!

Lake X Kid

05-06-2021, 02:49 PM

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jackiewilson

05-06-2021, 03:22 PM

Lovely man—— well loved by everyone he ever met.
not many of us could claim that !!!!!!

Lake X Kid

05-07-2021, 04:17 PM

Fuel and Oil prices dictate the trajectory of the Automotive Industry.

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At the end of 1956, following fuel rationing brought about by the Suez Crisis, Alec Issigonis (engineer and designer) was ordered by Sir Leonard Lord (chairman of British Motor Corporation) to bring the smaller car, XC/9003, to production as quickly as possible. In August 1959 the car was launched as the Morris Mini Minor and the Austin Seven, which soon became known as the Austin Mini.

In later years, the car would become known simply as the Mini. The Mini went on to become the bestselling British car in history with a production run of 5.3 million cars. This ground-breaking design, with its front wheel drive, transverse engine, sump gearbox, 10-inch wheels, and phenomenal space efficiency, was still being manufactured in 2000 and has been the inspiration for almost all small front-wheel drive cars produced since the early 1960s.

In 1961, with the Mini gaining popularity, Issigonis was promoted to Technical Director of BMC.

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Morris Mini

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jackiewilson

05-08-2021, 01:18 AM

You should see the NEW mini’s—— about the same size as a RANGE ROVER [ nickname is RONGE RAVER]——-POLES APART FROM THE NIMBLE MINI COOPER S , CAME in three sizes —998cc—-1100 cc—- and the time bomb 1275 S.
won the MONTE-CARLO umpteen times . I had a van version —- used to pull the TORRIGGIA —— wife and five kids —- tent and all the camping gear .
Once got accused of breaking the speed limit with the rig fully loaded —- police were lying of course!!!

jackiewilson

05-08-2021, 05:32 AM

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SUPERSHED has been completed —— all new machinery installed—— //////////////////
All i have to do now, is sort out where all the old stuff i have carted around the world for years is going to fit in.
Do have four different worktops, whereas in the last shop, the band saw table was the assembly pointy. Never again.

powerabout

05-08-2021, 07:57 AM

Whats your favorite worktop surface?

jackiewilson

05-08-2021, 09:55 AM

Whats your favorite worktop surface?
Dunno— never had a choice before— just the bandsaw table Pilgrim !!

jackiewilson

05-09-2021, 07:10 AM

Wonder if LEWIS will have ANY luck at all in BARCELONA ???? He did have a bit yesterday —- won his 100th pole position— i know—its all luck in F1. So , does that mean that 100 pole positions and 97 victories have all been good luck and a half tidy vehicle?????

powerabout

05-09-2021, 07:30 AM

1500 team members helping him...thats a few more than anyone else.
great driver,great car, huge team, huge budget.

jackiewilson

05-09-2021, 09:46 AM

[QUOTE=powerabout;3281375]1500 team members helping him...thats a few more than anyone else.
great driver,great car, huge team, huge budget.[/QUOTE

C’mon Pilgrim, Ferrari—owned by the Italian government—— Honda ???? Renault owned by the french government - Budgets are obscene !!!!!!!!! Whether there’s a hundred employees , or fifteen hundred ——— ALL drivers are trying to bring home the bacon. Seems like the only one who never gets any credit is Hamilton —— he does it by LUCK .
In fact the little bugger just went and did it again in Barcelona ——— Pure luck of course , ability got sod all to do with it . “?????????????????

GENE LANHAM

05-09-2021, 01:15 PM

jackiewilson

05-09-2021, 04:21 PM

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Driving for Penske?---UNFAIR ADVANTACE!!!!

Driving for Kiekhaefer?---UNFAIR ADVANTAGE!!!

Never ever remember the ANDRETTI’S or PETTY, ERNHEART OR SCHUMACHER” S ability being questioned ??????? Make of vehicle was never mentioned , always has been the driver who took the accolades.
Realise he should have been either German —- Argentinian, Brazilian ,.French, or at least even Italian!
Greatest of all time ———Bloody Englishman ??????
Fact that there are no American drivers worth their salt at the minute doesn’t help.
Fact is Bottas has the same kit, even makes it go quicker sometimes . Just can’t make it stick.
Must be the little leprechaun Lewis has perched on his shoulder ??????
He just might decide to take a sabbatical and forage into America for a couple of seasons .
Mansell did it IN THE INDY SERIES —— HILL dit it at Indianapolis —- Brits have had a lot of luck in the USA, previously !!!!!!!!!!!!!

powerabout

05-09-2021, 08:11 PM

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jackiewilson

05-10-2021, 01:24 PM

Lake X Kid

05-10-2021, 05:49 PM

Dan Gurney one of my favorite American racer and car builder. A winner of four F1 Grand Prixs.

After a spell with the US army in Korea during the early 1960s, Gurney threw himself into club racing on the west coast of the USA, eventually going to Italy for a test drive at Modena in a Ferrari sports car. He pressed all the right buttons and by 1960 was a member of the Ferrari F1 team, then switched through BRM, Porsche and Brabham to fielding his own elegant Eagle machines, one of which carried him to a fine victory in the 1967 Belgian GP at Spa. It was the high point of Dan’s illustrious career.

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powerabout

05-10-2021, 11:32 PM

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY AN AMERICAN DRIVER WITH AMBITION GRACES THE F! CIRCUIT ‘
Hasnt really been a hard charging. American driver for years’ !
Americans have left their mark in F1– Shelby — Donohue — Andretti- . Definitely missed in the later years.
Putting up with EU bribing, corruption, and underhand deals turns many off and you cant get 'Slap ya Mama's' hot sauce in Europe.

Mark Poole ModVP

05-11-2021, 01:53 AM

Jackie, did you ever let Chas take any of your boats for a spin? If I were the wrench I would be like, "I fixed it so I am going to test it now".

jackiewilson

05-11-2021, 02:25 AM

Jackie, did you ever let Chas take any of your boats for a spin? If I were the wrench I would be like, "I fixed it so I am going to test it now".

If Chas had ever wanted to take any of my boats for a spin — he could have .
Chas was a very accomplished driver in many classes. He bought a 1250 bp and put it on the back of a 16’Levi. Always stayed around his local circuits.
Sold him Dave Minty’s 13’ Shakespeare—— in my opinion, the most beautiful single seater EU ever produced, and a 50 Merc as a motor .
He then bought Colonel Peter Tejera’s little green Shakespeare cat—- for some strange reason, he never did get it to perform.
Had a couple of ALBATROSS aluminium boats— a two seater and a four seater . Both with Coventry Climax engines .
He then went to a fire station sale and bought six high output fire pumps —- asked him why in the hell he bought obsolete pumps????? Told me they all had climax engines !!!!!!
Chas’s first love was ‘OFF ROAD RACING’— he would take any old Range Rover or lightweight Land Rover. Drive it to a meeting —take part— always finished middle of the pack, then drove it home. Loved machinery and always treated his vehicles with care.
Treat a motor like you would the woman you love and it will treat you the same.
Never heard Chas raise his voice, or fall out with anyone ——— he was just one of those rare people who everyone loved .
Always claimed SHUNKS was his special friend >

jackiewilson

05-11-2021, 03:05 AM

Putting up with EU bribing, corruption, and underhand deals turns many off and you cant get 'Slap ya Mama's' hot sauce in Europe.
DIFFERENT. strokes for different folks —- BRANSTON !!!!!!! TOBASCO—- MANGO—- plus more Indian sauces than in MUMBAI !!!!!
DON’T try and tell me you only do OVER THE COUNTER AND ABOVE BOARD DEALS PILGRIM !!! EITHER EAST OR WEST ???????

powerabout

05-11-2021, 04:19 AM

DIFFERENT. strokes for different folks —- BRANSTON !!!!!!! TOBASCO—- MANGO—- plus more Indian sauces than in MUMBAI !!!!!
DON’T try and tell me you only do OVER THE COUNTER AND ABOVE BOARD DEALS PILGRIM !!! EITHER EAST OR WEST ???????
its not the UK part of F1 its the EU part...
Fifa
uim
fia
olympics
imf
world bank
the EU
....

jackiewilson

05-11-2021, 06:14 AM

Not rocket science to understand why we wanted out of the EU .??????

We better tread a bit careful here PILGRIM —— we have departed entirely from boats and engines !!!!

powerabout

05-11-2021, 06:23 AM

Not rocket science to understand why we wanted out of the EU .??????

We better tread a bit careful here PILGRIM —— we have departed entirely from boats and engines !!!!
yes, but politics has all to do with racing....
Fishing, not so much.
We also like workshops and tools

The Italians running the Pavia Venice marathon race, great....but they are choosing what can or cant race.
Drew got kicked out with his period F2 boat yet Guido running with new 4 slug Merc?

jackiewilson

05-11-2021, 07:27 AM

yes, but politics has all to do with racing....
Fishing, not so much.
We also like workshops and tools

The Italians running the Pavia Venice marathon race, great....but they are choosing what can or cant race.
Drew got kicked out with his period F2 boat yet Guido running with new 4 slug Merc?

not that long ago the PAVIA-VENETZIA was a “RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG” race —- although i seem to remember it did have a minimum speed requirement.
I am both surprised and disappointed Drew was not allowed —- but Cappo ??????? Now Renato has retired ???? Only one left to be the golden bollocks — no new ITALIAN superstars in the near future as far as i can see !!!
Both Cappolini and Mercury have long history with the P/V.!

jackiewilson

05-12-2021, 01:09 AM

Nearly there with the shop. Fixed the belt and disc sander to its own table — just need to find the little six inch disc sander and that’s ALL the machines installed .
Swore blind i was going to get rid of a load of unwanted gear—- find that i have 7 cans of marine varnish,????? Must be ten years since i painted anything with varnish—- should i just keep a couple maybe ?????
a dozen boxes of every level of grit in 6” discs — both Velcro and stick-back [kindly donated by Gary Stray]=
had to shelve out the last corner to store all the crap I’ve carted around for years.
only one more box to open—— idea is to do one box at a time —- find a place for everything — then open the next one . THEORY OF EVERYTHING IS BEAUTIFUL ——- IN THEORY!!!!!!

GENE LANHAM

05-12-2021, 05:02 PM

486892
http://www.unfairadvantageracing.com/

Back to BOATS???

Mark---and Roger showed quite an interest in boats----#66

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powerabout

05-13-2021, 05:29 AM

Any more the Penske and co in boats?

GENE LANHAM

05-13-2021, 02:17 PM

Any more the Penske and co in boats?

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GENE LANHAM

05-13-2021, 09:02 PM

Any more the Penske and co in boats?

Boats---and CARS---

Mark started a company--called it RaceMark

Rebuilt Camaros for IROC---and a street Camaro for a lot of boat racers and their girlfriends------

Built this one for Doc Magoon---

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powerabout

05-13-2021, 09:06 PM

where's the girlfriend photos?

jackiewilson

05-14-2021, 01:05 AM

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It can’t be just me ———- top piccy looks more like PRUETT to me ???????
either that —- or his daddy put himself about BIT ??????

willabee

05-14-2021, 01:12 PM

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Anyone know who the guy on the right is (white belt)? When Penske started, it was him, Donahue and Jerry Simison. It doesn't look like Jerry on the right, looks more like Jimmy Kubasta.

GENE LANHAM

05-14-2021, 02:25 PM

Anyone know who the guy on the right is (white belt)? When Penske started, it was him, Donahue and Jerry Simison. It doesn't look like Jerry on the right, looks more like Jimmy Kubasta.

ALMOST POSITIVE----Jerry Simison???

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GENE LANHAM

05-14-2021, 02:36 PM

It can’t be just me ———- top piccy looks more like PRUETT to me ???????
either that —- or his daddy put himself about BIT ??????

????486954

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FUJIMO

05-14-2021, 03:00 PM

...could very well be bob saccenti in the center. probably the night before the race, as all three are dressed up better than they usually are/were...https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=486913&d=1620933259

GENE LANHAM

05-14-2021, 04:35 PM

FUJIMO

05-14-2021, 06:33 PM

...right you are gene...it IS the captian...https://d39a3h63xew422.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/16124919/Roger-solo-2000x2352.jpg

FUJIMO

05-14-2021, 06:36 PM

https://www.usanewscourt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/b-337.jpg

willabee

05-15-2021, 09:05 AM

ALMOST POSITIVE----Jerry Simison???

486953

That doesn't look like Jerry, but I don't know who it is?

FUJIMO

05-15-2021, 01:04 PM

...the fella at the far right in the photo, with the captain(roger) & don...is Jay Signore, who worked for roger. they are going over the details of the brand new sunoco dx(later named cam 2) cigarette 40 at delivery time. Jay was the guy that headed up roger's special projects, like starting up the IROC series, and making the street versions of the those camaro's, that don & doc magoon & others bought from them for fun...https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/attachments/classic-offshore/260180d1171131813-looking-40-cigarette-40-penske40-small-.jpg

Lake X Kid

05-15-2021, 09:39 PM

When a president recognizes and associates with a race driver, it gives the motor-sport some gravitas.
Like Trump giving Penske the medal.

and ... 43 at the White House.

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powerabout

05-15-2021, 11:08 PM

Very cool..

powerabout

05-15-2021, 11:09 PM

Jackie

Did you ever turn a lap in a car at a race track?

jackiewilson

05-16-2021, 01:21 AM

Jackie

Did you ever turn a lap in a car at a race track?

Nope, i never did.
Did do a heat in the rain at BRANDS HATCH on a PORCUPINE MATCHLESS —- owner couldn’t handle it in the wet, most of the other riders fell off. Race was won by a kid called JOHN SURTEES —-he was riding an RDG SPECIAL !!!! HE LAPPED ME.

jackiewilson

05-16-2021, 03:57 AM

Ive been waiting for WILLABEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Year ago , he would have jumped in with both feet !!!!!!!!
Might be something he ate .

willabee

05-16-2021, 09:14 AM

Nope, i never did.
Did do a heat in the rain at BRANDS HATCH on a PORCUPINE MATCHLESS —- owner couldn’t handle it in the wet, most of the other riders fell off. Race was won by a kid called JOHN SURTEES .—-he was riding an RDG SPECIAL !!!! HE LAPPED ME.

"He lapped me" ..... I know about Sanders in a boat, but am having a little difficulty swallowing Surtees on two wheels. Next you'll probably claim Fangio with four wheels.
However, I suppose there's nothing wrong with a novice getting lapped by the best :D

jackiewilson

05-16-2021, 09:49 AM

‘Twas a rainy day at Brands Hatch. Probably thirty riders in the novice “run what you brung” event. All sorts of bikes , even the odd race bike —— Pete Tester had swopped his 7R AJS for a PORCUPINE . Pete dropped it on the flooded track and was cross at the world . Told him he was riding it like a big girls blouse—- was one of those “IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER MOMENTS” ——- me, being twenty years old and the dingleberry i can be sometimes, took it on. Was a race of attrition , carnage , crosswinds and hailstones, with a bit of sleet throw in for good measure .
Just before the finish, a 250 RDG SPECIAL howled past me and took the flag —— was actually the very first time i had even heard of JOHN SURTEES . He was still a teenager. I never ever again entered a motorcycle competition of any kind .

Car racing was something you only read about —— although seeing as how WILLABEE mentioned it ——— Fangio would visit his friend BILL SHORT . He owned Southwater garage before i did . Bill was BENTLEY race team manager just before the Second World War . Yes, i knew him quite well for many years.
NAH-NAH-NA-NA-NAH ?????????????

FUJIMO

05-16-2021, 02:27 PM

Very cool..
...times two. everyone loves petty...

jackiewilson

05-18-2021, 01:23 AM

WOW, PRESIDENTS,——LEGENDS——-Never thought i would see all those famous folk on the TRICKS site. You just never can tell !!!
Not a lot to inflame the imagination this morning. Pubs and restaurants open again—- flights to Portugal—- but that’s about it. Jews and the Arabs at each other again /????? No surprise there , they’ve been doing it since Pontious was a Pilate .
This old world keeps on turning around ?????? Seems to me like “spinning” would be a better turn of phrase .
Biden Bashing has replaced Trump Bashing ——— whilst Boris Bashing is on the up— ????? It’s a funny old world !!!!!!!!!!!
SHORTAGE OF A CHOCOLATE FLAKE IN ICE CREAM AS HEADLINES JUST ABOUT SUMS IT UP????????

FUJIMO

05-18-2021, 02:50 PM

...the shortage of chocolate flakes is the only one i would be pissed about. thats terrible news. just terrible. my condolences jack.;)

jackiewilson

05-19-2021, 01:12 AM

...the shortage of chocolate flakes is the only one i would be pissed about. thats terrible news. just terrible. my condolences jack.;)

SOMETIMES LIFE CAN BE AN ABSOLUTE BITCH FUGI.
I contribute to a website called “STOCKS”———. One of the lead stories was the shortage of flakes ——-even before ——-APPLE—NIKI and STARBUCKS !!!!!!!!!!

jackiewilson

05-19-2021, 12:17 PM

Just shows the state of the union !!!!!
Went to an up market restaurant for lunch yesterday. Mainly because i could, wished i hadn’t bothered . Full house of over 100 packed into a pseudo medieval barn ,— eating overpriced - very ordinary —- piss poorly prepared fodder —- took out the hearing aid in the end . Sounded like a murder of crows or a murmuration of starlings coming from the assembled diners !!! Add to that the torrential downpour , both coming and going —— wasn’t exactly thrilled with the days efforts!!!
Funnily enough i have gotten used to home cooking—- and at a tenth of the price .
So, we are out of lockdown—— jolly hockey sticks !!!
Can i fly to the states —-NO—— Portugal is about the only destination —- but watch out for the quarantine rules and isolation AND COST. Upon returning.
Things ain’t wot they used ter be !!!!!!!
Think i might just stay home and straighten up SUPERSHED in the immediate future >

GENE LANHAM

05-19-2021, 05:27 PM

Nope, i never did.
Did do a heat in the rain at BRANDS HATCH on a PORCUPINE MATCHLESS —- owner couldn’t handle it in the wet, most of the other riders fell off. Race was won by a kid called JOHN SURTEES —-he was riding an RDG SPECIAL !!!! HE LAPPED ME.

My favorite uncle Lee---and his brother Troy Wollard---were world famous boat builders---

Half a lifetime ago--I wanted to be a world famous RACE CAR driver!!

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2us70

05-19-2021, 08:37 PM

Wollard? any relation to my old friend Sam Wollard?

jackiewilson

05-20-2021, 01:13 AM

GENE. ———- In the game of life —you Just never know what hand you will be dealt —- its what you do WITH the chance that decides who and what you become. [ me myself] .
All i ever wanted as a teenager was a motorbike —— was hauled off my first ride by my father , who just happened to be driving by in the family van, smartly belted round the ears until they rang and threatened with a fate worse than death if he ever caught me riding a motorcycle again until i was sixteen !!!!!!!!!!

GENE LANHAM

05-20-2021, 12:57 PM

Wollard? any relation to my old friend Sam Wollard?

Wollard Airport Equipment----

jackiewilson

05-21-2021, 02:29 AM

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VERY similar to my first motorbike —— except mine had a STEIB Bullet sidecar—- bought it in 1947 . Guy wanted £45. For the lot. In the end i gave him my WHITTAKER AND MAPPLEBECK racing bike and £15 .told him to keep the sidecar !!!! Still think he got the deal of a lifetime ??????
Guy had the fish and chip shop at the bottom of girlington road . We used to get chucked out of the YOUTH CLUB at 10-00pm —- then it was either the pie and pea shop —- or fish and chips. Bike was always parked outside . Memories ????????

FUJIMO

05-21-2021, 09:38 AM

FUJIMO

05-21-2021, 09:41 AM

...seems to be a mercury guy, so he can't be all that bad...https://yachtandpowerboats.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/art..jpg

FUJIMO

05-21-2021, 09:43 AM

https://yachtandpowerboats.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/unlimited_trofeo_2_ponti.jpg

Lake X Kid

05-21-2021, 04:26 PM

Just shows the state of the union !!!!!
...
So, we are out of lockdown—— jolly hockey sticks !!!
Can i fly to the states —-NO—— Portugal is about the only destination —- but watch out for the quarantine rules and isolation AND COST. Upon returning.
Things ain’t wot they used ter be !!!!!!!
Think i might just stay home and straighten up SUPERSHED in the immediate future >

Eric and Jackie - different sides of the same Quid.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-0/s526x395/186488001_1866913586806122_4603373294781832871_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=09cbfe&_nc_ohc=JzKkGVb4lnIAX_Z65f0&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&tp=7&oh=d01dfed839180c0789245e09bb52cae2&oe=60CE6742 Eric Clapton feared he would 'never play again' after 'disastrous' time with vaccine

“About six weeks later I was offered and took the second AZ (AstraZeneca) shot, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers,” he continued. “Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again, (I suffer with peripheral neuropathy and should never have gone near the needle.) But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone....” said Eric Clapton

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jackiewilson

05-22-2021, 01:28 AM

...thought maybe you'd know something about this chap jackie? its one of them there sterndrive tunnel concoctions. his name is dino piacci. has a lot of dem tubes stick'n out...;)...https://yachtandpowerboats.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/unlimited_trofeo_2_ponti_seconda.jpg

Its also got a lot later sterndrive than the HI-PERF picture—
Boat looks like an old KT design——- LEMBSKE’S SEEBOLD “SASQUATCH” is a lot shallower than the 39 boat. Boat looks to have an old rocker style , but that could optical. [in my humble opinion].
Afraid i haven’t come across that particular craft before——- DINO PIACCI sounds very Italian to me , if i hadn’t heard the name , i might have thought the rig was AUSTRALIAN——they are very good at stitching hot motors into tunnels. [and vee bottoms].

jackiewilson

05-22-2021, 08:43 AM

Wettest AND coldest May since records began. With another week still to go.
still chucking it down. Climate change ????? I have my doubts—— just old Mother Nature having a laugh !!!! Now SHE. Is the most contentious old biddy you could ever hope to meet .

Lake X Kid

05-22-2021, 09:51 PM

Gene is your Front Right Tire on your Midget (I think that is what that class is called) larger/wider than the inside front tire?
It looks to be almost the same size as the back tire (or its an optical illusion for me).

~~~

A lot of circuit boat race courses are left-hand turns.
So why does not some tunnel boats have a wider starboard sponson (then the port-side sponson)?
It would help keep the boat from leaning less in a left-handed turn, and probably less prone to barrel-rolling.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=487226&d=1621462531

Lake X Kid

05-22-2021, 10:37 PM

Gene why did you chose Boating Racing over Car Racing?
Were you influenced by your uncle Lee and his brother Troy?

Also in the race car photo, the tall lever mounted on your left side what is that used for?
Braking or engaging the transmission, or is it to adjust the chassis roll-bar, those are some of my novice wild guesses.

My favorite uncle Lee---and his brother Troy Wollard---were world famous boat builders---

Half a lifetime ago--I wanted to be a world famous RACE CAR driver!!

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jackiewilson

05-23-2021, 02:28 AM

Eric and Jackie - different sides of the same Quid.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-0/s526x395/186488001_1866913586806122_4603373294781832871_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=09cbfe&_nc_ohc=JzKkGVb4lnIAX_Z65f0&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&tp=7&oh=d01dfed839180c0789245e09bb52cae2&oe=60CE6742 Eric Clapton feared he would 'never play again' after 'disastrous' time with vaccine

“About six weeks later I was offered and took the second AZ (AstraZeneca) shot, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers,” he continued. “Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again, (I suffer with peripheral neuropathy and should never have gone near the needle.) But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone....” said Eric Clapton

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Like it or not Roy—- no government is ever going to say “ has massive side effects, can induce pain, vomiting and palpitations “. No bugger would ever want a jab —- and especially two !!!!!!!!!

FUJIMO

05-23-2021, 09:10 AM

...never got a flu shot in my entire life...

WaterZebra

05-23-2021, 10:49 AM

Like it or not Roy—- no government is ever going to say “ has massive side effects, can induce pain, vomiting and palpitations “. No bugger would ever want a jab —- and especially two !!!!!!!!!

The Pfizer blend is a full up bulldog. 2nd shot had me feeling fatigued for 6 weeks. I know what "brain fog" is now too. Drove my blood pressure all over the map. My 2nd dose was 2 weeks after the 1st. Now they are saying the Pfizer 2nd dose should be 9 weeks later, not 2. Figures.:confused:

powerabout

05-24-2021, 08:17 AM

...never got a flu shot in my entire life...
have you lived in a cold climate?

jackiewilson

05-24-2021, 01:07 PM

have you lived in a cold climate?
whaddya mean — have i lived in a cold climate——- end of May——absolutely pissing down all day—- I AM LIVING IN A COLD CLIMATE . ———— AND I DONT DO FLU SHOTS EITHER .

FUJIMO

05-24-2021, 08:36 PM

have you lived in a cold climate?
...yes...with winters at sometimes 30 below wind chill factor. gave up that type of living for good, a long time ago...

powerabout

05-24-2021, 08:40 PM

...yes...with winters at sometimes 30 below wind chill factor. gave up that type of living for good, a long time ago...
You only get the flu from someone else so stay away from everybody and no problem...

jackiewilson

05-25-2021, 12:56 AM

You only get the flu from someone else so stay away from everybody and no problem...
OK. Explain to me just how “SOMEONE ELSE “ gets it in the first place then Pilgrim ??????
so, we dont get 30 below ——- but cold is cold—— nobody i know could tell the difference between 10 below and 30 below , even with 4 cashmere’s and a woolly hat——-fur lined boots and gloves —- i still get cold and dislike it intensely..
You telling me that by getting cold , wet and shivering , you wont get flu ????
What’s the difference between a bad cold and flu ???????
No, dont tell me —- i dont really want to know . How the hell did we get to this point in our worldly discussions .???????

powerabout

05-25-2021, 02:40 AM

OK. Explain to me just how “SOMEONE ELSE “ gets it in the first place then Pilgrim ??????
so, we dont get 30 below ——- but cold is cold—— nobody i know could tell the difference between 10 below and 30 below , even with 4 cashmere’s and a woolly hat——-fur lined boots and gloves —- i still get cold and dislike it intensely..
You telling me that by getting cold , wet and shivering , you wont get flu ????
What’s the difference between a bad cold and flu ???????
No, dont tell me —- i dont really want to know . How the hell did we get to this point in our worldly discussions .???????

The Spanish flu...
The Wuhan wog...
Sars
Mers
Nippa virus
all came from animal to human then off it went human to human
All from Asia....but Mers might have come from kissing camels?

jackiewilson

05-25-2021, 10:40 AM

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Eat your heart out Kenny—— Friday supper at Sams place—- on the beach at ELMER SANDS.
STONE CRABS LEGS FROM CRAB SHACK AT LITTLEHAMPTON. SHRIMP FROM PENZANCE IN CORNWALL—- ASPARAGUS from the local market garden. LOCAL BAKERY PROVIDED THE FRESH BAKED BAGUETTE . All swilled down with a superb white burgundy . Poilly Fusse !!!!!

Hey, Gene —— you made arrangements for the big birthday bash ??????
Booked mine at the AVISFORD PARK HILTON —- right here in the village . And on the day !!!!!Sunday 30th January 2022. there goes the funeral directors fees—- nothing left for him —poor sod !!!!

FUJIMO

05-25-2021, 11:08 AM

...stop...your mak'n me hungry. good eats there...:thumbsup:...

jackiewilson

05-26-2021, 02:43 AM

Still talking June 21st to the end of lockdown —- dont hold your breath . Complete cock - up at Heathrow airport, returning holiday makers are locked in quarantine for two weeks at costs of up to £10,000 per person. Stunning end to two weeks in Spain ——— i know some folk are getting nil desperandum for the sun —— but its all getting a bit out of hand !!!!!!!!
Me, myself will not be jumping on the first plane out of here —— think i will let the rush die down a bit first—- make sure i can get back in again , before i leave. Without it costing my life’s savings !!!!!!!

Several folk dont seem to understand , is the fact that ————-furthest point from the sea anywhere in England is approximately 70 miles . So seafood is available everywhere . Used to be the fish and chip shop DIDNT open Mondays , as the fishermen didn’t go out catching fish on a Sunday . Whether that still happens on a Sunday or not—-i have no way of knowing . Even Woolworths were closed all day Sunday. But that was then, when we were CIVILISED —— long before the advent of knife crime and BLM—— AND TEENAGERS slaughtering each other for reasons nobody knows —— or have long forgotten.
can’t get settled in to the workshop for some strange reason. I have what i have always longed for—- the perfect workshop. Not another damn thing i need . Even have all the spare blades for the perfect bandsaw —- five worktops —- instead of the bandsaw table. I am short of nothing. So why aren’t i spending every minute of the day creating something or other ??????

FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 01:41 PM

...life is about 90 percent back to normal here in florida. masks optional at the grocery stores & out to dinner now. had a really nice diner out at the local waterfront restaurant on the intracoastal waterway last night. place is called "houstons"...http://www.insidefortlauderdale.com/photos/houstons_outside.jpg

FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 01:51 PM

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FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 01:56 PM

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FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 01:57 PM

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FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 01:59 PM

...the usual 45 minute wait to be seated outside...https://s3-media3.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/alYp_vp8hxNfN4otKSMIlg/o.jpg

FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 02:01 PM

...outside bar service...https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/ed/98/7b/houston-s.jpg

FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 02:03 PM

...valet, of course...https://www.insidefortlauderdale.com/photos/houstons_pompano.jpg

FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 02:05 PM

...inside always packed, for the 30+ years we've been going...https://jeffeats.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/IMG_2030.jpg

FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 02:06 PM

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FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 02:11 PM

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FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 02:12 PM

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FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 02:14 PM

...prime rib...https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/14/66/d9/9a/houston-s.jpg

FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 02:16 PM

https://media.merchantcircle.com/1804456/Kona-Houston-05_full.jpeg

2us70

05-26-2021, 02:24 PM

Have eaten at Houston's a few times. Always for special occasions. Mabey I should think of one soon.

jackiewilson

05-26-2021, 04:05 PM

BLESS YOU FUJI WILL CONCEDE ITS A BIT OF UP MARKET, DOESN‘T EXACTLY REEK „“CLASS“ AND ELEGANCE THOUGH——— AND ITS A TAD DATED . BUT— THE FODDER DOES LOOK CLASSY———
—wholesome and EDIBLE
New upmarket places pop up all the time in England——- afraid the jock they serve is simply enhanced with red sauce out of a piping tube instead of slapping the arse of a ketchup bottle!!!!!!!
Prices of a half tidy lunch have gone up from £15/20 ——— to a whopping £40/50 .
Yes ,i do know . Eating houses are going to try to make up for lost time with price hikes —— but they have to be careful the worms dont turn!!!!!!!!!
Food i get served at home is superior to the crap i was served last time out.
Even the price of the humble fish and chip supper has gone up by a third .
On my twice weekly visits to the recycling facility [scrapyard] i see stainless catering units -worktops and ovens, where another restaurant has gone to the wall.
An 8oz filet steak at home costs me a tenner ———- same thing in any eating house starts at thirty five quid —— why the hell would i go out to eat [ unless some other bugger‘s paying ].
I must remember to show you some of the newer eating places that have sprung up around CHICHESTER.
There have always been classic restaurants like CARLUCCI and RAYMOND BLANC—- INDIAN—-CHINESE ——- TAI and GREEK. —— SANDWICH BARS ——- SUBS——
But since BREXIT there is a new breed of seafood supplier started up in business——FISHERMEN —- crafty entrepreneurial sailors who own their own boats, have started employing the best chefs , to put together packages of expensive fish at cheap prices —- usually boxes start around £50 — to £100, delivered overnight . That means its fresher than going to a fishmonger , and a hell of a lot cheaper .
Just what this has got to do with the price of a new all electric MERCURY 250 horsepower, i have no idea?????? Have you ??????

FUJIMO

05-26-2021, 05:39 PM

...you started it jackie, by posting those damn delicious looking food plates...lol;)

jackiewilson

05-27-2021, 01:10 AM

...you started it jackie, by posting those damn delicious looking food plates...lol;)

Very true Fuji, that was last Friday nights supper prepared by my youngest daughter Sam and her husband Clive . Total cost of the whole shebang was under £100 including Champagne and a bottle of white burgundy. Coffee [a la „“CLOONEY“ but with Baileys] and chocolates .
next eating house is going to have to come up with something mighty special to entice me away from my usual Friday night „“BIG EATS“.
Tomorrow- its my youngest sister Jans birthday bash [she‘s 70 years young] . Sam is doing the catering, at the beach house . Will try and post you some pictures of both the food and the people .

jackiewilson

05-27-2021, 09:19 AM

DONT suppose many of you are aware of the fact that here in the UK , we get FREE medical care and hospital treatment . We do have to pay for ongoing medication [unless you are over 70, then its for free]. It‘s called the NHS. [ national health service] .. it cost‘s TRILLIONS to keep it running.
doctors and nurses from all over the world scramble to get a job there.
Point im getting to is... its not the doctors and nurses that are getting the money ——[nurses have to pay to use the car park every day] Not the hospitals —-or the equipment !!!!!
ITS THE BLOODY ADMINISTRATION THATS TAKING ALL THE MONEY. PAY FOR ANYONE IN ADMIN IS OBSCENE !!!!! MORE THAN ALL THE NURSES AND DOCTORS PUT TOGETHER ..
In the old days Hospitals had an overall chief ——-MATRON—— she was god on high. Ran everything on her own ,was totally in charge and ran, was responsible for everything .
they reckon it takes 100 admin workers in every hospital to do the same job matron did.
Nurses were the fighting cause that saw off the covid pandemic ——— have been offered a lousy 1percent increase in pay ————-fat cat administrators have ten and twenty percent increases —- on top of the million pound salaries and five million retirement pensions after five years 1!!!!!!!!!!!
Something is not quite right somewhere———- first thing they should do is give all nurses and doctors free car parking. It’s a feckin disgrace ,at the minute.

powerabout

05-27-2021, 09:19 AM

...prime rib...https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/14/66/d9/9a/houston-s.jpg
grass or grain fed?

powerabout

05-27-2021, 09:22 AM

jackiewilson

05-27-2021, 09:29 AM

grass or grain fed?

who gives a flying fart —????????? Just so long as it’s tender and tastes good ????????

jackiewilson

05-27-2021, 09:32 AM

That’s because nobody has hold of the reins !!!!!!!!!!! Its a runaway horse towing a loaded canon. Heading for the town Loaded with dynamite and nitro!!!!!!!!

powerabout

05-27-2021, 09:41 AM

who gives a flying fart —????????? Just so long as it’s tender and tastes good ????????
mericans do, the taste is different
https://www.nutritionadvance.com/grass-fed-vs-grain-fed-beef/

jackiewilson

05-28-2021, 01:14 AM

Isn’t it a simple fact of life, that birds [chicken and turkeys] are fattened with grain just before being made ready for the table ?????????
even the BIBLE makes reference to ‘“THE FATTED CALF” !!!!!!!!!!
Same thing with Porky WORKY’S———
All that environmentally friendly stuff———PORK PIES FROM “PIGS THAT DIED HAPPY”—- it’s simply hard selling advertising. Get over yourselves .
You want to go VEGAN or VEGGIE——- i dont have a problem with that. Just don’t lecture me on your beliefs ?????
hands up all those that think cows—pigs and sheep are raised as PETS ???????
Ask any farmer—- he will soon put you straight.
Grain fed ??????? Grass only ??????? ER, grass dont grow in winter, so you think animals should be left to starve ??????
like i said—— who gives a flying fart !!!!!!! As long as the taste and tenderness is there !!!!!!!!!

jackiewilson

05-28-2021, 02:24 AM

Today is my little sisters 70th birthday.
I can remember quite clearly when, just after the war, my mother presented me with a baby sister — ANGELA— and two years later did it again. This time with another girl. JANET.
TIME FOR ME TO FLY THE NEST???
by this time i had sold the THUNDERBIRD and graduated up to a red MG TC, UNFORTUNATELY it was having an engine rebuild in dads garage, so i had to make the long trip south on a regular bus.
wasn’t long before Mum-Dad-and the rest of the family followed me south.
We have all lived south of London for the last seventy years .
Today, my daughter Sam , is putting on a birthday bash for Janet — it will be held at the beach house in ELMER . Not to worry — i will let you know how it goes . It could go on well into the night —-all my relations are great party people —— law says we are only allowed six relations to attend-a party, due to feckin covid ???????? My kids respect the law —— but do push their luck with it sometimes

jackiewilson

05-28-2021, 04:29 AM

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Sister JAN——-its going to be a long day——487761 JAN WITH HER TWO DAUGHTERS HIEDI AND AMY.
If the three of them walked into a bar—- it would be Jan that pulled !!!!!!!

STEVERINO

05-28-2021, 05:05 AM

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Sister JAN——-its going to be a long day——487761 JAN WITH HER TWO DAUGHTERS HIEDI AND AMY.
If the three of them walked into a bar—- it would be Jan that pulled !!!!!!! She looks too good looking to be your sister Jackie you can tell her that from me.:):):):):):):):):)

FUJIMO

05-28-2021, 10:03 AM

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FUJIMO

05-28-2021, 10:03 AM

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jackiewilson

05-29-2021, 02:15 AM

Was gone midnight afore i finally called it a day. Festivities were still going on , but i was bushed —- time for me to leave .
Food was just a tad special —— started off with COCQUEIL ST JACQUE—- FOLLOWED BY SURF AND TURF , IN THE FORM OF FILET STEAK AND LOBSTER TAILS ???????? Pudding was the biggest feck off chocolate cake i have ever seen in my life. Covered in smarties- Maltesers ——galaxy —— chocolate orange slices and Cadbury’s dairy milk lumps.
piccies to follow ——- i stink and need a shower .

Lake X Kid

05-31-2021, 12:02 PM

Food was just a tad special —— started off with COCQUEIL ST JACQUE—- FOLLOWED BY SURF AND TURF , IN THE FORM OF FILET STEAK AND LOBSTER TAILS ???????? Pudding was the biggest feck off chocolate cake i have ever seen in my life. Covered in smarties- Maltesers ——galaxy —— chocolate orange slices and Cadbury’s dairy milk lumps.
piccies to follow ——- i stink and need a shower .

This makes me think, when and what was the best meal that I have ever eaten.
And I cannot answer that, because I just don't know. Apparently for me all the great meals which I have eaten, are just another great meal, with not one standing out above all the rest.

powerabout

05-31-2021, 08:27 PM

jackiewilson

06-01-2021, 02:11 AM

THERE YOU GO AGAIN PILGRIM ——— NOTHINGS EVER GOOD ENOUGH UNLESS ITS BEEN MUTILATED AND DECONTAMINATED !!!!! Nothing‘s natural anymore , but im buggered if i will stop to look at a juicy steak thats been plonked down in front of me and think —- have you been circumcised ? Pasteurised and plaguerised Before i take a bite 11111

jackiewilson

06-01-2021, 02:15 AM

487953 Just one or two of the wilson cla at Jans birthday bash

jackiewilson

06-01-2021, 02:17 AM

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Jans two girls —- Wild Amy and rock steady Heidi.

jackiewilson

06-01-2021, 02:20 AM

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Gave Jan three concepts of something or other that i made a while back for her birthday—- she liked them anyway—- or at least, she said she did,

jackiewilson

06-01-2021, 02:23 AM

487956Petanque on the beach—— Jan won of course.

jackiewilson

06-01-2021, 08:23 AM

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One i made earlier—-ABOUT TEN YEARS EARLIER —- came to light in the move !!!!!!

FUJIMO

06-01-2021, 02:38 PM

...nicest looking group of humans i've ever seen...:thumbsup:...https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=487953&d=1622531658

jackiewilson

06-02-2021, 12:22 AM

THANKS FOR THAT FUJI—YOU MADE US ALL LOOK ALMOST HUMAN.
Sam has a plaque just inside the front door that reads—-“TO LOOK AT US -YOU WOULD THINK WE WERE JUST A NORMAL FAMILY” !!!!!!!!
Absolutely nothing normal about the WILSON family and its many offshoots .
Take the “BLOW-INS” FOR EXAMPLE, Gary Stray of Geico —— and FISHIE of BLONDECELL, are a fine pair of BLOW -IN examples .

jackiewilson

06-02-2021, 12:49 AM

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One for the historians ———-Paris pits —- Ten minutes before the gun —-time was 9–50 am Sunday morning. OCTOBER ??—????

Old boy

06-02-2021, 12:53 AM

488015

One for the historians ———-Paris pits —- Ten minutes before the gun —-time was 9–50 am Sunday morning. OCTOBER ??—????

Without seeing the front cowl, I can't possibly tell if those 1000's are 1963 or '64?

jackiewilson

06-02-2021, 12:58 AM

Without seeing the front cowl, I can't possibly tell if those 1000's are 1963 or '64?.
Me myself says they are ‘63’s !!!!!!

jackiewilson

06-02-2021, 01:04 AM

Cheated a bit ——— date is October 6th—1963. At least, that’s what it says on the back of the phoggie.

Old boy

06-02-2021, 01:22 AM

jackiewilson

06-02-2021, 02:27 AM

I was still correct! (with all due respect)

As you well know, there have been a very small number of "year models" produced, where their has been very little (or no) cosmetic differences.

Those years that come to mind are:
70&71 72&73 76&77.
Now we all know what the boffins were "playing with" in that group of years! (2.4)

Like it or not there was a power/capacity race going on at that time between OMC and Mercury—- personnel were changing sides like footballers changing teams.
UIM had set the top limit for racing at 2 litres in Europe —— mercury were the dominant motor in that class. [omc did have a very quick but unreliable 2 litre —- hand built and fragile, known as “THE GRENADE”].
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We never saw a 2.4 Mercury over here until years later—— they were OZ unlimited class.
OMC were Running their 3 litre in the OZ class .
RUDE brigade said they weren’t interested in running a 2litre motor ——- UIM tried to bring about a touch of sanity by making 2000cc the top capacity. But what with large backhanders and bent politicians, they failed miserably .
Rotary came along, which as far as i know nobody yet has been able to decide on how it should be measured ?????? Just put it in the OZ class—- which is simply a RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG , RUNAWAY CLASS,, IN FACT PUT TWO OF THEM—- OR FOUR — OR TEN OF THEM ON THE TRANSOM——- ITS STILL LEGAL !!!!!!!!!!
THEN GARBRECHT SWOPPED SIDES——— OMC V8‘S APPEARED —- the carnage started and didn’t stop until OMC went to the wall.
Some might call it a success, I call it a total failure —— was nearly the death knell of powerboat racing as i knew it
I did not have a lot of time for the promotor of the OZ series and as usual let the fact be known to said person. [i have a nasty habit of doing this] .
Parkinson was the only honest promoter in powerboating ——- thats why he was never popular with the UIM—-or the RYA, he couldn’t be „BOUGHT‘.

Enough of all this, i have an idea for a new concept !!!!!!

jackiewilson

06-02-2021, 03:57 AM

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Sam only serves CHAMPAGNE—- not Prosscco or Cava ——- only the real McCoy, so after a hard days drinking, this is what happens.

FUJIMO

06-02-2021, 03:54 PM

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FUJIMO

06-02-2021, 04:42 PM

...poor guy out on the course...still can't find his ball...https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=487955&d=1622531904

techteam

06-03-2021, 03:39 AM

[QUOTE=jackiewilson;3287118]488015

One for the historians ———-Paris pits —- Ten minutes before the gun —-time was 9–50 am Sunday morning. OCTOBER ??—????[/QUOTE

Couple of nice Albatross Continentals.

FUJIMO

06-03-2021, 12:02 PM

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Lake X Kid

06-03-2021, 05:25 PM

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jackiewilson

06-04-2021, 01:03 AM

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Winning boat that year was the last 100 hp mercury. Boat was the NEW 16‘ LEVI designed —— SOUTER built, cold moulded ply of John MERRYFIELD and LEN MELLY.
These boats dominated the scene until the tunnel boats came along.
first real tunnels in England were —- first TORRIGIA—- second SCHULTZE——-third MOLINARI.
Although John MERRYFIELD did run a PROUT CATAMARAN with a pair of 35 up Mercs on the back in the early sixties at the BOATBUILDERS TRIALS in the early sixties [‚61 i think]. Unfortunately the UIM and RYA did not have a class to run them in—— nobody thought of using the hydro, O series until later.

Watermark

06-04-2021, 10:15 AM

Winning boat that year was the last 100 hp mercury. Boat was the NEW 16‘ LEVI designed —— SOUTER built, cold moulded ply of John MERRYFIELD and LEN MELLY.
These boats dominated the scene until the tunnel boats came along.

Question Jackie - Was Adrian Baily racing then and did you known him well? Adrian moved to Canada at some point and I met him in Peterborough, 1971 or '72. He could certainly drive his Levi .. and being so narrow, that hull didn't look easy easy!

peterse90

06-04-2021, 03:10 PM

Question Jackie - Was Adrian Baily racing then and did you known him well? Adrian moved to Canada at some point and I met him in Peterborough, 1971 or '72. He could certainly drive his Levi .. and being so narrow, that hull didn't look easy easy!

After Adrian Baily somehow Reg Hillman ended up with the Levi but I don't think Reg ever did anything with it. With my help Dave Lovell bought it from Reg and again Dave had plans but never ran it. My friend Ian Crisp bought it from Dave Lovell, put an in-line 150 on it and had fun with it on Lake Simcoe. Not sure if you remember but Ian Crisp took it to Penetang in 1979. Ian drove heat #1 and I drove heat #2. Not sure anyone watched the first few FJ boats because everyone was watching and being fully entertained by Ian and myself trying to control the Levi - a wild ride and way too much fun to be legal !!!

jackiewilson

06-04-2021, 03:58 PM

Question Jackie - Was Adrian Baily racing then and did you known him well? Adrian moved to Canada at some point and I met him in Peterborough, 1971 or '72. He could certainly drive his Levi .. and being so narrow, that hull didn't look easy easy!

Knew Adrian quite well, though not as well as his brother JULIAN. They shared a Levi 16 PHAEDRA. PREVIOUSLY OWNED BY CHRIS KINGSBURY —- Think they both emigrated to Canada—- Bill and Margaret Benson followed them .
I bought PHAEDRA —— RAN IT IN THE LONDON RACE——— sold DON ROSS the MOLINARI. He won, I finished nowhere .

jackiewilson

06-05-2021, 02:23 AM

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Did this concept quite a few years back—packed it, plus a dozen others in a tin trunk and forgot about them. Brought them all to light in the recent move .
RIVA is just a thought on what sort of a boat they might have turned out , had they ever gone offshore. ?????
Michelob came to light —- another long forgotten concept—— along with TOM GENTRYS AMERICAN EAGLE TRANS-ATLANTIC .
DAMN, BUT I HAVE A SHED -LOAD OF STUFF TO MOVE IF IM EVER GOING TO MAKE ANYTHING ELSE !

jackiewilson

06-05-2021, 10:10 AM

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If i ever open up a kids playground or a fairground ride —- i have enough damn rollers to start my own track or merry-g0-round .
I COULD A BEEN A PROMOTOR !!!!!!!!!!!

jackiewilson

06-05-2021, 10:16 AM

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Sam made the mistake of thinking she could tidy me up a tad ——hauled me off to the GOODWOOD PRO SHOPS CLEARANCE SALE———-MISTAKE, —. As my sainted mother used to say——you can’t make a silk purse !!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUJIMO

06-05-2021, 02:18 PM

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FUJIMO

06-05-2021, 08:50 PM

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=487958&d=1622553746

jackiewilson

06-06-2021, 02:48 AM

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summers here at last !!!!!

FUJIMO

06-06-2021, 03:53 PM

...the usual suspects...https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=488016&d=1622624138

jackiewilson

06-07-2021, 02:29 AM

...the usual suspects...https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=488016&d=1622624138
25 BOTTLES OF DOM PERIGNON will do it every time——- told Sam she should have given the buggers PRUCETTO —- THEY WOULD NEVER KNOW THE DIFFERENCE !!!

WaterZebra

06-07-2021, 09:01 AM

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summers here at last !!!!!

JW - did you see F1 in Baku yesterday? The last 30 minutes was the entire race. Pirelli will be burning their night lamps the entire week. Speaking of burning, Lewis Hamilton had the race on a silver platter until he torched his brakes for a 2 lap restart? Couldn't believe I was seeing this?:eek:

jackiewilson

06-07-2021, 01:23 PM

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Somewhere in Chinkywoo province , lives an idiot with an IQ of 200+ —- but with less common sense than that of the average bed louse .
There is no other explanation for anyone creating the Lego disaster that i was sent as an apology for a gazebo !!!!!!
Wasted two days erecting a construction that should have taken two hours.
Yes, i did have the destructions in front of me the whole time —— they might just as well have been written in ancient Hebrew or Greek hyrogliphics for all the use they were .
There are one thousand ,seven hundred and forty seven ways to get the erection wrong——-but only one way to get it right .
My headmaster at Halifax Junior Technical School——— WILLIAM ROCHESTER HASWELL, [NUFFER]. Along with his Faithfull sidekick MR.SCHOFIELD [SCOFFERS]. Would have been proud of me for the intrepid way i carried myself yesterday.

jackiewilson

06-07-2021, 01:34 PM

JW - did you see F1 in Baku yesterday? The last 30 minutes was the entire race. Pirelli will be burning their night lamps the entire week. Speaking of burning, Lewis Hamilton had the race on a silver platter until he torched his brakes for a 2 lap restart? Couldn't believe I was seeing this?:eek:

I have to smile to myself W.Z.—- Hamiltons run of 54 point scoring races comes to an end ——- By default Vettel Comes second ——— he is suddenly a big hero ???????????? What’s all that about ?
seven times world F1 champion ——- 100 pole positions ——-98 wins———done more of everything than any other driver ever has ———-still they knock him.
No, i dont agree with all the BLM nonsense ——- I’m white ,proud of it and shout WLM —-so go buck a fuffalo. Doesn‘t mean that Hamilton is any less of a driver .
saw some idiot posting on facebook—-„“IM GLAD HE LOST“——- so are a lot of other folk. Five will get you ten the little sh-t will rech 100 wins this season.
another five will get you ten that vettel wont make the podium again EVER .

FUJIMO

06-07-2021, 06:02 PM

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=488241&d=1622877475

jackiewilson

06-08-2021, 02:14 AM

Those eagle eyed amongst you will have noticed a rather large flaw on the near side sponson of the RIVA TUNNEL . This was right there from the beginning , but it was such a handsome piece of mahogany that i decided to let it ride —- simply see what transpires . Which is what i did ,and why there is a flaw .
on reflection - maybe i should have just binned the chunk of wood !! But at that time , it was all i had , plus, it was the last piece of my sainted mothers WALNUT table —- that turned out to be mahogany!

FUJIMO

06-08-2021, 03:44 PM

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=488302&d=1622905710

jackiewilson

06-11-2021, 01:50 AM

Scream and fly has been having a funny five minutes for the last three days ——- tells me I’ve been suspended ??????—— can’t think of anything I’ve done thats particularly offensive !!!!!!!!! Anyone out there got any ideas why ????????https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=488302&d=1622905710. Then of course, i have to put my reply in the wrong place—- did it before instead of after—- life can be a stone bitch without me really trying——- not to worry—im on it !!!!!!!

jackiewilson

06-11-2021, 02:03 AM

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As you can see from the above piccies—- i have not been sat on my rectum all day. I didn’t lay the slabs—- paid someone to do it this time . Firs time in my life i haven’t done it myself. Reason—- lifting twenty five pound slabs gives me feckin backache and makes me like WILLABEE ——-CRANKY !!!
erecting a bloody comic cuts leggo style Gazebo makes my arm ache !!!!!!
Still trying to fathom out , how the hell i fix the sunscreen without totally losing my sanity.
SUPERSHED still looks like a midding —— nowhere near tidy inside yet. Really should make a concentrated effort, get it exactly the way i want it ———one day.

powerabout

06-11-2021, 03:37 AM

Any chance you could get one of your young relatives to get your sculptures out and photo graph them all?

jackiewilson

06-11-2021, 04:35 AM

Any chance you could get one of your young relatives to get your sculptures out and photo graph them all?

Not even my most enthusiastic grandchild would take that on Pilgrim——— I left about fifty concepts with my mate NIGEL when i Left BOUZIGUES ten years ago in 2011—-
I loaded my daughter SaMS place up in LOXWOOD with another thirty——-some six years ago ‘
I have a trunk full of boat concepts that i packed to send to my son in Florida——- he already has thirty or more and doesn’t really want them, postage alone is $200+ —— sooooo— we have this situation whereby there’s 20 concepts—— nobody wants—— all packed and ready to go —— but—- why the hell would i pay $200 to send a trunk full of concepts to anywhere ???????????
Sorry Pilgrim ——-thats what my sainted mother used to call —-A GOOD HIDING TO NOTHING!!!!!!

jackiewilson

06-13-2021, 01:48 AM

ROUGH count up yesterday—- around fifty pieces skulling the new shop [not counting those in the trunk]. Finally have the main workbench clear and tidy, all ready to start producing “SOMETHING”?
just have four more to go before I’m home and dry.
New lathe is all dusty—-i forgot to put the cover on it. Now here’s the rub. I didn’t put the cover on because i wanted to clean all the dross away first. Time goes on , it gets covered in dust. Back to the old chicken and egg situation .!!!!!!!!
temperature today forecast to top 80. Degrees—— tomorrow 0ver 85, i need to get the sunscreen over the gazebo fixed ——— its just draped over the framework at the minute —— even a gentle breeze and it’s flapping about all over the garden.
even with the doors and window open SUPERSHED was bloody hot inside ——- i played with the iPad —- discretion is getting to be one of my strongpoints ——- although i did fall out with a potential customer yesterday . Dickhead insisted he couldn’t make the shop until after noon———so i told him to leave it until after 2pm——- thats when the trouble started `!!!!!!!
OF COURSE THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT ——- UNTIL I DONT THINK HE IS .

jackiewilson

06-13-2021, 05:34 AM

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This is the Gazebo that never had a mother or a father !!!!!!!
it is temperaneously fixed —— i refuse to work out there under a desert sun, it provides shade—- thats all that’s necessary at this time . Bon-Continuation pour la weekend.

jackiewilson

06-14-2021, 02:20 AM

Had one of those lazy good for nothing Sunday’s—- took the lounger out of the shed and laid under the awning for an hour, felt good. Second hour began to fidget—- not good . Lunch , then settled down to watch England play Croatia in the European cup. For a wage bill of five million quid a week, i expected more . Tired after 90 minutes play ??????? For the sort of wages those guys are getting , even at 89 years old i could have done better .
I’m told the the only thing that matters is the result ——-err in whose opinion ???? Ok. So they won —- if thats the sale purpose of the game ,then thats me done. I would sooner watch my great grandson MAX play for Brighton Academy .
Must be getting old ——- right ONIVA —- had my day of rest— decided on the next project —- head down— arse up and tally -ho, as Percy used to say.

powerabout

06-14-2021, 03:50 AM