Facts about Evinrude/Johnson racing outboards made my OMC

[lars strom]

Over$14 million profit is pretty good..!!..:):cheers:

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[FMP]

:)
Pretty cool.

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The coolest

[2us70]

Turn 1 must have been quite interesting. But as I have said here many times "it seemed perfectly reasonable at the time"
95% of all the UIM Championship races was always clock start. 5 drivers from every country was allowed to start. Sometimes like the UIM SE class European Championship race in Evian, France 1974 it was over 40 boats in a clock start..!!

http://svera.se/blogg/racing-historier/1974-was-a-very-good-year-for-my-se-class-racing/


(http://svera.se/blogg/racing-historier/1974-was-a-very-good-year-for-my-se-class-racing/)
(http://svera.se/blogg/racing-historier/1974-was-a-very-good-year-for-my-se-class-racing/)https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=473827&d=1600808301 (http://svera.se/blogg/racing-historier/1974-was-a-very-good-year-for-my-se-class-racing/)

[lars strom]

Turn 1 must have been quite interesting. But as I have said here many times "it seemed perfectly reasonable at the time"

Yes..always very stressful but part of racing back then when clock start was used.

Here is my experience from the race at Lake Geneva on the borderline with Switzerland & France 1974

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My best memories is from Evian, France where I defended my SE European championship.
Over 40 boats in this race, the SE class was very popular in the mid seventy’s.
The Italian drivers was still upset from the year before when I “stole” the race in Finland so they teamed up to try to run me over in every start.
My new Clerici boat and the way I could fly it, was perfect for this 2 point race course, two mile long.
(Jim Wagner told me I was way faster then the OMC Factory OE boats).
Normally a race was 4 heat and 3 of them counts, and the big Lake Geneva was extremely rough.
In the final heat when I was up front, one of the Italian drivers slowed down waiting for me to lap him and then he
hit my boat on purpose in the turn, but I was lucky to bring it home in first place.
On top of that, the top Italian drivers ended up disqualified for not legal modifications to the engines.
The final result with me as the Champ was ready 4 AM Monday morning with very angry and upset Bonvicini brothers from Italy.

Earlier that year one of my sponsors Melins Motor made very nice stickers with a picture of my boat saying I was the 1973 European Champion, but they never told me that the printing office made a mistake, putting year 1974 on the first set of stickers so in the pit area after the race, they put a new sticker on my boat saying
I was the 1974 European Champion and that made the Italians even more upset!!!!
I never told them the true story about the sticker screw up.

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[lars strom]

Some more memories from beautiful Evian, France 1974

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[lars strom]

Nice.
The Hodges F1-V8 boat was painted by Andy Bullen late 1984.

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[lars strom]

A mix of Andy Bullens F1-V8 boats.

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[lars strom]

EDIT:2 Better copy of second picture.
Alf Bullen driving the #6 Molinari/Evinrude CCC 3 liter V6 looper fuel injection. I think it is from Chasewater 1979 and turned very bad for Alf..
Second picture. @STEVERINO (https://www.screamandfly.com/member.php?u=65408) need help from you.

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[2us70]

Racing against people who will hurt you on purpose is not fun. I only had a couple of competitors like that and I did not look to racing them. Racing against the good guys was what made it worthwhile. Some drivers did not have to worry about what they broke. Guys like me who were racing on my own dime had to try to keep the equipment intact.
Yes..always very stressful but part of racing back then when clock start was used.

Here is my experience from the race at Lake Geneva on the borderline with Switzerland & France 1974

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My best memories is from Evian, France where I defended my SE European championship.
Over 40 boats in this race, the SE class was very popular in the mid seventy’s.
The Italian drivers was still upset from the year before when I “stole” the race in Finland so they teamed up to try to run me over in every start.
My new Clerici boat and the way I could fly it, was perfect for this 2 point race course, two mile long.
(Jim Wagner told me I was way faster then the OMC Factory OE boats).
Normally a race was 4 heat and 3 of them counts, and the big Lake Geneva was extremely rough.
In the final heat when I was up front, one of the Italian drivers slowed down waiting for me to lap him and then he
hit my boat on purpose in the turn, but I was lucky to bring it home in first place.
On top of that, the top Italian drivers ended up disqualified for not legal modifications to the engines.
The final result with me as the Champ was ready 4 AM Monday morning with very angry and upset Bonvicini brothers from Italy.

Earlier that year one of my sponsors Melins Motor made very nice stickers with a picture of my boat saying I was the 1973 European Champion, but they never told me that the printing office made a mistake, putting year 1974 on the first set of stickers so in the pit area after the race, they put a new sticker on my boat saying
I was the 1974 European Champion and that made the Italians even more upset!!!!
I never told them the true story about the sticker screw up.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=473832&d=1548176674

[lars strom]

Andy Bullen going down in Bristol.

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[lars strom]

I received this picture below from an Italian friend today.. He was working for Renato during his time with Mercury. He was also working for Renato all the years Renato raced Evinrude for OMC.

This picture is from the OE & ON World Championship race in Auronzo, It 1976. Renato won boat classes witch is a very unique situation.
Well..this was high up in the mountains and Renato was the only one allowed the be testing at this little lake for over a week before the race.
I am not sure if the info is correct, but according to my Italian friend the OE class powerhead Renato was using was made by Renato at his factory in Como.
This was also one of the last races for Renato for Team Mercury. If I remember right, Amsterdam, Paris and Havasu 1976 was the three left for Mercury.
Early 1977 Renato & Bob Hering won Parker in his Evinrude V6 CCC powered Molinari.

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This is getting very interesting..Guido Cappellini..(a 10 times UIM F1 World Champ) is asking if anybody knows who owns the little red boat sitting in the water..
I was there in Auronzo 1976 and remember this and answering as you can see in the first "picture"

The second "picture" is the interesting one..it was Guido Cappellini's first race boat.
Yes..he was working for Renato as a young boy..

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[STEVERINO]

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https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=473864&d=1600873649 I can remember this race at Chasewater The British Grand Prix. Rodger Jenkins won this race with Tom Percival 2nd Steve Pinson 3rd. I think Andy Bullen raced his dads old Burgess in the race and Alfi drove the new Molinari with a 3.0 Looper engine.I went to visit Alfi 3 days later at the Hospital in Walshall to say he was very unhappy was a understatment.Alfi had a business to run and places to be he had broken his femur bone right at the top of his leg so this was no quick fix i think this had him out of racing for sometime and Andy took over his driving seat.

[WaterZebra]

Racing against people who will hurt you on purpose is not fun. I only had a couple of competitors like that and I did not look to racing them. Racing against the good guys was what made it worthwhile. Some drivers did not have to worry about what they broke. Guys like me who were racing on my own dime had to try to keep the equipment intact.

It always seemed to be the same. If prize money was involved, the demeanor of some drivers flipped like a switch. Risking my hull and engine for a weekend of racing for a paltry sum of money that didn't even put a dent in my operating expenses wasn't worth it. One thing I did learn though was when the composite hulls starting showing up, the guys who were stupid enough to try "trading paint" with wood hulls always got the worst of it. LOL Also, if the rescue situation looked even the the least bit risky, I would not attend that race to begin with.

[lars strom]

Nice Evinrude V6 cross-flow

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[lars strom]

This become extra funny a few weeks ago..:)


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[lars strom]

Velocity 30 with Johnson V6 power.

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[lars strom]

Ben Robertson (https://www.facebook.com/bar57jr?__tn__=-]K*F) in his #57 Second Effort/OMC King Cobra/Johnson F1-V8 3.5 liter, looper, fuel injection and 6 inch mid section.

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[lars strom]

London GP 1985.
Ben Robertson driving the #57 Velden Racing/Johnson F1-V8 3.5 liter looper, fuel injection and the new really short 6 inch midsection.

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[lars strom]

Well..OMC found out 35/40 years ago..the 12 inch mid section for the F1-V8 engine was not the best design (like this picture, to top heavy) and come out with the 6 inch mid section 1985.

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[lars strom]

The 6 inch mid section was much better and the fuel injection increased power & top speed.
On top of that a very nice, smooth sexy design.
Probably the best looking racing outboard ever.

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[Rotary John]

Well..OMC found out 35/40 years ago..the 12 inch mid section for the F1-V8 engine was not the best design (like this picture, to top heavy) and come out with the 6 inch mid section 1985.

473975The rotaries had NO mid section. in 1973. It always amazed me it to OMC that long to realize that on the 2-strokes, the lower CG helped handling. I guess the rotary haters, Kuney and Blanchard just could admit that the rotaries had some good ideas.

[lars strom]

The rotaries had NO mid section. in 1973. It always amazed me it to OMC that long to realize that on the 2-strokes, the lower CG helped handling. I guess the rotary haters, Kuney and Blanchard just could admit that the rotaries had some good ideas.

Yes John, the rotary design was very clever.
The funny part with this is the new Merc UIM F1-V8 racing engine for next years racing is using a 12 inch mid section.

[lars strom]

... Kuney and Blanchard just could admit that the rotaries had some good ideas.

John..I spent two weeks with Don Kueny on a trip to Stockholm, Sweden in the mid nineties to investigate an Donzi/OMC King Cobra accident outside Stockholm. I could tell already after a few days with Kueny he was not a friend of any racing stuff..:)

[2us70]

They have to put the overdrive somewhere. Can you imagine the amount of torque steer if they just ran it straight to the lower unit. Prop pitch would be insane.

[lars strom]

Well..OMC found out 35/40 years ago..the 12 inch mid section for the F1-V8 engine was not the best design (like this picture, to top heavy) and come out with the 6 inch mid section 1985.

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The 6 inch mid section was much better and the fuel injection increased power & top speed.
On top of that a very nice, smooth sexy design.
Probably the best looking racing outboard ever.

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The gearcase ratio worked fine for the powerful OMC UIM F1-V8. Todays UIM F1 boat all use electric power-steering.
@2us70

(https://www.screamandfly.com/member.php?u=3396)

[WaterZebra]

The rotaries had NO mid section. in 1973. It always amazed me it to OMC that long to realize that on the 2-strokes, the lower CG helped handling. I guess the rotary haters, Kuney and Blanchard just could admit that the rotaries had some good ideas.

The breakthru for low CG didn't come with the V8 program. It was spawned by OMC in the mid 60's with the 9.5 hp fishing motor. I should know as I have 6 of them hanging in my barn LOL:smiletest: Best low-pro design ever produced!

[WaterZebra]

Yes John, the rotary design was very clever.
The funny part with this is the new Merc UIM F1-V8 racing engine for next years racing is using a 12 inch mid section.

All new F1-V8 with old school steering arms? I would have expected something that looked more like an off shore hook up?

[2us70]

It would be interesting to do a side by side comparison of the old and new F1 V8s.

[lars strom]

It would be interesting to do a side by side comparison of the old and new F1 V8s.

Never going to happen for two reasons..
Even if someone dig up an OMC F1-V8 to compete in the UIM F1 series it’s not going to be allowed.
Its a spec. class today..Only Merc product are allowed.
Not even sure if they are going to let the Merc V6 in to race next year..
Would be a very bad deal if a Merc V6 won..:)

[peterse90]

The rotaries had NO mid section. in 1973. It always amazed me it to OMC that long to realize that on the 2-strokes, the lower CG helped handling.

Rotary John, I always thought the rotary engines used by NSU and Mazda were 4-strokes (?).
If the OMC Rotary was 2-stroke how did you do that?

[Rotary John]

Rotary John, I always thought the rotary engines used by NSU and Mazda were 4-strokes (?).
If the OMC Rotary was 2-stroke how did you do that?Something got lost in the translation. The rotary is a 4-stroke. What I was trying to say it took OMC 10 years to realize a lower center on gravity by using a 6" mid section on the V-8 while the rotary had no mid section back in '73. Many of the features used on the rotary were later used on the 2-stroke racing engines. Know why there are no 14/23 Rotary gearcases left?; they were scavenged for parts for the V-6/V-8 Programs.

[Rotary John]

John..I spent two weeks with Don Kueny on a trip to Stockholm, Sweden in the mid nineties to investigate an Donzi/OMC King Cobra accident outside Stockholm. I could tell already after a few days with Kueny he was not a friend of any racing stuff..:)Don Kueny and Jim Nerstron were busom buddies. I can't speak of his attitude towards racing, but he had an extreme hatred for the rotary and anyone involved with it. Kueny being appointed Chief Engineer to replace Hulsubus was the direct cause of the entire rotary engineering team leaving OMC within a year of his appointment.

[lars strom]

Well.. I spent 2 weeks with Don Kueny over in Sweden and pretty sure it was 1994.
If I remember correct he retired from OMC the year before.
A very interesting man and he told me a lot of good and fun stuff.
A great man. Don’t remember him talking about the rotary, but we talked about mostly production OMC outboards.
We did visit his home in Kenosha a few years later with our motorhome.
I did google Don Kueny and found this..

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[peterse90]

Something got lost in the translation. The rotary is a 4-stroke.

When you think back on it, I think the focus was more on the 'revolutionary' combustion design of a rotary and that OMC stacked 4 of them. If I remember correctly very little was made of the fact that they were 4-strokes. Now looking back over 45 years ago, think now with the introduction of Merc's new 4-stroke Formula 1 engine just how ahead of the curve the OMC rotaries were. Same could be said about the OMC V8's.

Timing is everything !!!!

Now I know why when I heard Jimbo run a rotary in Peterborough, Ontario 1973 it sounded so different.

[powerabout]

All new F1-V8 with old school steering arms? I would have expected something that looked more like an off shore hook up?
old wire and pulley with a power assisted helm is pretty close to perfect till linear actuators can do the job.

[Rotary John]

When you think back on it, I think the focus was more on the 'revolutionary' combustion design of a rotary and that OMC stacked 4 of them. If I remember correctly very little was made of the fact that they were 4-strokes. Now looking back over 45 years ago, think now with the introduction of Merc's new 4-stroke Formula 1 engine just how ahead of the curve the OMC rotaries were. Same could be said about the OMC V8's.

Timing is everything !!!!

Now I know why when I heard Jimbo run a rotary in Peterborough, Ontario 1973 it sounded so different.Not only were the rotaries a 4-stroke, the exhaust cycle lasted for 270 degrees of crank rotation for each flank of the rotor. Couple this with the fact 2 rotors were exhausting at the same time and for part of the cycle all 4 were exhausting; aka a unique sound. In one cycle of the crankshaft (360 degrees) all 4 rotors exhaust. In fact exhausting is continuous for each rotor. As the apex seal closes for on flank of the rotor it opens the next flank to exhaust.

[WaterZebra]

Not only were the rotaries a 4-stroke, the exhaust cycle lasted for 270 degrees of crank rotation for each flank of the rotor. Couple this with the fact 2 rotors were exhausting at the same time and for part of the cycle all 4 were exhausting; aka a unique sound. In one cycle of the crankshaft (360 degrees) all 4 rotors exhaust. In fact exhausting is continuous for each rotor. As the apex seal closes for on flank of the rotor it opens the next flank to exhaust.

To my knowledge, the sound of an OMC rotary was never recorded? If the rotary was a 4 stroke, where was the oil reservoir located?

[Rotary John]

To my knowledge, the sound of an OMC rotary was never recorded? If the rotary was a 4 stroke, where was the oil reservoir located?
It didn't have one. There are 2 types of rotaries, both of which are 4 strokes. The rotor is a captive heat source, that is there is no external way to remove heat from it. Mazda uses what is call an oil coiled rotor. Oil is circulated inside the rotor to cool it and then run thru a heat exchanger to remove the heat. A pressurize oil system also allows the used of babbitt bearings, but requires oil seals in the rotors to insure oil isn't leaked into the combustion area. The OMC race rotary (and snow mobile) was charged cooled. The incoming gas/air charge was passed the rotor cooling it. Oil was mixed with the gas similar to a 2-stroke to lubricate the roller bearings. Using the charge to cool the rotor heated it up considerably resulting in reduced airflow (less volumetric efficiency). This was the trade off of the 2 cooling methods. The oil cooled had higher volumetric efficiency; HP, at the expense of more parts, more weight and higher friction losses. The charged cooled is simpler and lighter but lower HP.

[lars strom]

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(http://svera.se/blogg/gene-thibodeaux-won-the-1986-f1-v8-world-championship-title-but-sadly-passed-away-2016/)Gene Thibodaux won the 1986 F1-V8 World Championship title but sadly passed away 2016.
http://svera.se/blogg/gene-thibodeaux-won-the-1986-f1-v8-world-championship-title-but-sadly-passed-away-2016/ (http://svera.se/blogg/gene-thibodeaux-won-the-1986-f1-v8-world-championship-title-but-sadly-passed-away-2016/)

[2us70]

In the mid 70s I was working on a crash fire unit at a local airport. An airline pilot was trying a new approach to unlimited air racing. He designed and built a small twin engine airplane to compete with the warbirds that made up the class. His plane was powered by 2 Racing Beat Mazda rotary engines. Every time he flew it the airport got noise complaints. I only heard it with both motors running once. It was LOUD and HARSH. Even with only one motor running it was unpleasant. The motors were arranged in a puller/pusher configuration and he never got the rear engine to cool properly. One result of this was we got to watch him land it a lot since he would have to declare am emergency each time. I think he finally ran out of money and patience.
To my knowledge, the sound of an OMC rotary was never recorded? If the rotary was a 4 stroke, where was the oil reservoir located?

[lars strom]

.... Every time he flew it the airport got noise complaints. I only heard it with both motors running once. It was LOUD and HARSH...

I was listening to this #03 Evinrude powered ScottiCraft for close to 6 hours in Paris 1974.
(The two drivers was Jimbo McConnell & Barry Woods)
I don't remember this unique racing outboard extremely loud but a very special great sound. Rotary John

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[2us70]

I think the OMC rotaries may have been run down here once. I am pretty sure I was not there if they did since they were pretty distinctive. So I have not heard how they sounded. I have heard a few Mazda race cars and can say that it must be a acquired taste. Most places required them to run mufflers.

[lars strom]

A very nice friend was visiting us at Lake of the Ozarks today.
Tim Schroer use to work for OMC at many different positions. Tim is also a big boat racing fan and did work for OMC racing. His album of racing pictures is large Tim is going to let me use many of them here at the OMC racing history thread.
Here is two examples of the # 57 Ben Robertson in his Velden/Evinrude V8.
Thanks for visiting Tim.

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Ben was mainly driving a Johnson F1-V8 but sometimes the better looking Evinrude..:)

[lars strom]

Bob Schubert

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[RogerH]

Was a good run with Bob at the November 2015 Tavares OFF / Vintage event. Outstanding Lee/Johnson restoration. We need to do this again..maybe with the Hering or 888 Molinari next time.

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[largecar91]

One I always liked

[lars strom]

...Not only were the rotaries a 4-stroke...

WOW..think about this..OMC raced a winning 4-stroke racing outboard in the UIM F1-OZ class already 1973. (47 years ago)
http://svera.se/blogg/omc-and-the-rotary-outboard-took-the-overall-win-in-windermere-1973/

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Next..a winning 3.5 liter V8 racing outboard in the UIM F1-OZ class 1981. (39 years ago) below
http://svera.se/blogg/f1-v8/forst-till-bojen/

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We also know OMC stopped racing the F1-V8 by Charlie Strang's order after the 1989 season. Read Mr. Strang's report.
http://svera.se/blogg/omc-f1-v8-racing-by-charlie-strang/

OMC closed down December 2000. (11 years later.

[Rotary John]

One I always liked
First lap Parker 1973, Jimbo McConnell

[lars strom]

A better picture from Parker 1973.

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[Instigator]

In IMSA road racing in the ‘80’s, the RX7s Ran mufflers and were still obnoxious loud!


In the mid 70s I was working on a crash fire unit at a local airport. An airline pilot was trying a new approach to unlimited air racing. He designed and built a small twin engine airplane to compete with the warbirds that made up the class. His plane was powered by 2 Racing Beat Mazda rotary engines. Every time he flew it the airport got noise complaints. I only heard it with both motors running once. It was LOUD and HARSH. Even with only one motor running it was unpleasant. The motors were arranged in a puller/pusher configuration and he never got the rear engine to cool properly. One result of this was we got to watch him land it a lot since he would have to declare am emergency each time. I think he finally ran out of money and patience.

[Rotary John]

Imagine what it was like being in the dyno room developing the exhaust system on the rotary. 4 straight pipes cut off 2" at a time. It pegged the sound meter. And I wonder why I'm mostly deaf?

[lars strom]

I was listening to this #03 Evinrude powered ScottiCraft for close to 6 hours in Paris 1974.
(The two drivers was Jimbo McConnell & Barry Woods)
I don't remember this unique racing outboard extremely loud but a very special great sound. @Rotary John (https://www.screamandfly.com/member.php?u=48164)

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I am sure the rotary engines was really loud inside a building wide open.

Maybe I got used after a few hours in Paris but it was a very unique sound.
I loved it..:cheers:

[Rotary John]

Question for Kathy McConnell ? Is this Jimbo or Barry driving the Evinrude and Bill or Tom driving the Merc?474189

[lars strom]

I dont think Cathy are here at S&F @Rotary John (https://www.screamandfly.com/member.php?u=48164).
Only on my Evinrude FB page.

(Mr. Bill & Cees Van Der Velden was driving the #12 boat)

http://svera.se/blogg/paris-6-hours/very-happy-with-our-paris-6-hour-race-1974/

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[lars strom]

This is where I found the Evinrude Rotary picture in Paris 6 hours 1974 for 12 years ago.

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[lars strom]

This is from Yachting & Boating Weekly about the #03 Evinrude powered rotary at the end of the Paris 6 hour race 1974.

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[lars strom]

More from Yachting & Boating Weekly and Paris 1974. (first picture, second is from a Swedish news paper)

The #48 OE class Clerici/Evinrude did a great start (red dot). Run all the 6 hours without any problems and finished third in a field of 39 OE class boats.

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[2us70]

That is absolutely my kind of boat race!

[Instigator]

In the ‘80’s IMSA had a road race through down town Columbus.

The Mazda rotaries ran in the GTU class which was (production based but heavily modded cars, full tilt motors) 3.0 liters and under and even w/mufflers they were louder echoing off the city buildings than the GTP (5.0 and over factory prototypes) V-12 Jags w/open headers!

Even though the factory Jags couldn’t beat the factory Porsche’s, their sound was orgasmic!




Imagine what it was like being in the dyno room developing the exhaust system on the rotary. 4 straight pipes cut off 2" at a time. It pegged the sound meter. And I wonder why I'm mostly deaf?

[Rotary John]

This is from Yachting & Boating Weekly about the #03 Evinrude powered rotary at the end of the Paris 6 hour race 1974.

474198I adjusted all the carbs on every rotary race engine after Parker, There were studs in the manifold and star nuts holding the carbs on. Having physically adjusting the carbs on this engine, I can factually say the nuts were tight when It came off the dyno, After the race not one, but all 8 carb nuts were loose and the carburetors were just hanging. Not ever before or after the Paris race was even 1 carb nut loose, which let me to believe someone loosen the nuts after testing in Brugge and before the race. Posey's engine had all of it's carb nuts tight, though he hit a turn boey and didn't finish the race. As I recall Woods had trouble getting the engine to start at the beginning of the race which would further indicate the carbs were loose at the start of the race. With the carbs loose, the engine would have sucked excess air causing the lean running and bearing failure.

[WaterZebra]

I adjusted all the carbs on every rotary race engine after Parker, There were studs in the manifold and star nuts holding the carbs on. Having physically adjusting the carbs on this engine, I can factually say the nuts were tight when It came off the dyno, After the race not one, but all 8 carb nuts were loose and the carburetors were just hanging. Not ever before or after the Paris race was even 1 carb nut loose, which let me to believe someone loosen the nuts after testing in Brugge and before the race. Posey's engine had all of it's carb nuts tight, though he hit a turn boey and didn't finish the race. As I recall Woods had trouble getting the engine to start at the beginning of the race which would further indicate the carbs were loose at the start of the race. With the carbs loose, the engine would have sucked excess air causing the lean running and bearing failure.

I would assume that the cowl had to be lifted free to get to the carbs, correct? Why weren't all of these race engines "sealed" during inspection before the race?
We used to apply blobs of women's fingernail paint (hundreds of color choices) to critical interfaces (head bolts, carb nuts, etc) for pre and post race inspection. ;)
Actually, for what OMC had at stake for R&D investment, I'm surprised nobody was given the assignment to sleep / stand guard over these boats?

[lars strom]

Actually, for what OMC had at stake for R&D investment, I'm surprised nobody was given the assignment to sleep / stand guard over these boats?

All three pictures are from Saturday (the day before) Paris 6 Hours 1974. The race was always run on Sunday. Start 11:00 AM and ended 05:00 PM firm.
You can see the two OMC rotary boats in the first picture. The pit was downtown Paris next to the Eiffel-tower and all boats must be covered up at sunset.
The pit was heavily secured with overnight armed Police officers.
I don't think it was possible for anyone to get in.


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[Rotary John]

I don't think it happened in the pits. Somewhere after setup testing in Brugge and before Sat. night in the pits. And that's all I have to say about it.

[lars strom]

This picture is from the Paris pit 1974. You can see how close the race location was to the famous tower.
Three hundred thousand spectators was watching the race Sunday and the train stopped at the bridge a few minutes so passenger onboard could see the race.
In my opinion by far the best boat race ever..!!
Well..I know some are saying Havasu was better..maybe the race itself was, but a race in the dessert cant compare with a race in the center of the most romantic city in the world..:)
I loved the Paris 6 hour race and won the OE class three times.
(1980, 1982 and 1986)

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[peterse90]

Question for Kathy McConnell ? Is this Jimbo or Barry driving the Evinrude and Bill or Tom driving the Merc?474189

My guess would be that's Jimbo.
Jimbo often wore an elbow pad on his left elbow and I remember him using an open face helmet with 'bubble' shield around this time.

Bill OR Tom driving the Merc - the answer is on the back of the helmet if only my eyes were better.

[lars strom]

Here it is..the nearly 3 mile long race course for the Paris 6 hour race seen from the Eiffel tower in yellow. The two red turning buoys was made out of steel and concrete.
The race was not stopped for anything..!!
If you hit the buoy you where done for the day..the buoy always won.
The pit and refueling area in blue.
Best race ever..way better than Bristol..:cheers:

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[lars strom]

At the end of the island in the beginning of the race course you can see the Statue of Liberty.
Here is a better picture..
I have looked at this very beautiful statue pretty close every October Sunday for eleven years.

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[lars strom]

Swedish Eva Britt Axdal is a great friend of mine. She use to race the UIM SD class with a Chrysler 45 Sport 1972. A very good fun/charmy race driver on top of that good looking.
Media loved her and she also raced the Offshore E class 1972 with an Evinrude 65. I have no picture of her E class boat but I remember I felt bad passing her with my faster Piraya in the same class..:icon_bs:
In the second picture Eva Britt is eating a hot dog..!!..I guess she forgot to not eat when someone is taking a picture..:)

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[lars strom]

WOW..it took close to two month for the t-shirts to reach Sweden but here they are.
Arne Jansson (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2043017495976607/user/100001047308048/?__cft__[0]=AZUTYacoTObPlovPqEvgtQck2gZtVdAYzT78hMORIEhk_MDbnGItcBQpIlkIsHFgBtPQcuDYSGp-CC3GBTsVexXE0Yhp0OCj9YpastW1xTnNdquBYe4MhPMxXs6TQcPrJbkJWGjYHN-gbVsKZyR6wUzaUvpvyPmN7--9GmTXZ3jG4SOohEt7mV3w2NuQ_hcWMFsOwkflRRGDphrK55j0JHgN&__tn__=R]-R) is the old school E -Class pro-motor with help of Lars Ruthman

(https://www.facebook.com/groups/2043017495976607/user/100002491983671/?__cft__[0]=AZUTYacoTObPlovPqEvgtQck2gZtVdAYzT78hMORIEhk_MDbnGItcBQpIlkIsHFgBtPQcuDYSGp-CC3GBTsVexXE0Yhp0OCj9YpastW1xTnNdquBYe4MhPMxXs6TQcPrJbkJWGjYHN-gbVsKZyR6wUzaUvpvyPmN7--9GmTXZ3jG4SOohEt7mV3w2NuQ_hcWMFsOwkflRRGDphrK55j0JHgN&__tn__=R]-R)..Arne to the left. Thanks a lot for the support and keeping the OMC E-class engines alive..

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[lars strom]

A stop at the Offshore race at Lake of the Ozarks today.
Replacing the canceled one in Key West.
Steve Curtis is one of the very best.
He told me Cougar Boats are now going to be built in
Florida. Fishing and race boats.

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[lars strom]

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[Lake X Kid]

Lars at the prestigious Paris 6 Hour race 1974.

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More from Yachting & Boating Weekly and Paris 1974. (first picture is from a Swedish news paper)

The #48 OE class Clerici/Evinrude did a great start (red dot). Run all the 6 hours without any problems and finished third in a field of 39 OE class boats.


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[lars strom]

Lars at the prestigious Paris 6 Hour race 1974.



Thanks Lake X Kid,

Two more maybe better pictures of the start in Paris 1974..(the yellow #48 is my boat)

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[lars strom]

Here it is..the nearly 3 mile long race course for the Paris 6 hour race seen from the Eiffel tower in yellow. The two red turning buoys was made out of steel and concrete.
The race was not stopped for anything..!!
If you hit the buoy you where done for the day..the buoy always won.
The pit and refueling area in blue.
Best race ever..way better than Bristol..:cheers:

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PARIS 1974

Two ScottiCraft boats where lost for hitting the solid turning buoy..sadly one was the 02 Johnson powered rotary boat.
The other was was the Briggs brothers #30 ON class ScottiCraft Évinrude V6 Super Strangler
You can see I am turning with my 48 Clerici inside the 30 ScottiCraft earlier in the race,

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[lars strom]

The Paris 6 hours 1975.

I have no picture from the start but this year my race # was 69

YMCF - (Yacht Moteur Club de France) & Jean-Noël Bladinaire the Club's President always told you the race number to use for this unique race.
You could never use your own number.



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[lars strom]

I picture over the pit and refueling area and how to leave the pit (in green) after refueling/driver change/repair stop.

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[lars strom]

Paris 6 Hours 1976

I have two picture from the start..the first one is me in a brand new #47 OE class Burgess with Johnson RS power.
I found my own little area to start from.

The second picture is very interesting..check the ON class #88.. That's Bob Hering in a Johnson RS powered Molinari..!!
That tells me the OMC - Renato Molinari deal was already done.
Paris was always the first year for OMC's racing budget.
OMC's calender year ended September 30.


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[lars strom]

Paris 6 hours 1976

Bob Hering teamed up with Tom Posey and drove the #88 Johnson RS V6/ Molinari in the famous race.
Well..a hole in the boat ended their race early.

The second picture is me in the #47 Johnson RS/Burgess..a few hours in to the race I run in the engine problems and was not fixable during the race.

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[lars strom]

More from Paris 6 Hours 1970 and the overall winner. #12 Johnny Sanders/Tom Posey Molinari/Johnson Stinger V4 1632cc Cross-flow.
This most have been a great victory for OMC after all Merc hype before the race..

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Next Sunday... October 11 is exactly 50 years ago when..Sanders & Posey won the Paris 6 hours in the #12 Johnson Stinger powered Molinari..:cheers:


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[Instigator]

What a great shot!

This is the boat racing I fell in love with as a kid.

Love this shot.


Paris 6 Hours 1976

I have two picture from the start...



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[lars strom]

Paris 6 hours 1977

The Paris 6 hour memories continues..
October-fest for us boat racers was in Paris.
All Paris 6 hour races was run the first or second Sunday in October.

Now we are up to the start of the 1977 race.
This was the year I raced for Volvo Penta & Dieter König.
Dieter Konigs sisters son Joachim Mareth was my co-pilot..
We drove the #68 Volvo Penta/König/Molinari.
Again I found my own litte place to start from. Second picture.
I can add the Volvo Penta/König was running great but a hole in the black beautiful Molinari boat stopped us.

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[lars strom]

Paris 6 hours 1978.

This was a big one for me..I got the opportunity to drive for Team Renato Molinari in the Formula 1 - OZ class.
Me and Angelo Vassena was driving the second #11 Saffa/Evinrude V6 CCC.
The first picture is just before the start. Angelo Vassena is standing up in our boat. ( red arrow)
Yes..the yellow #4 boat next to us is Roger Jenkins.
A few more pictures of our #11 Saffa/Molinari/Evinrude V6 CCC after.We finished 4th overall. Very happy with that.

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[tgsearay]

Was this the 2nd generation racing engine or was it a stock 1970 V4?

[lars strom]

Was this the 2nd generation racing engine or was it a stock 1970 V4?

Well, the engine Sanders & Posey won the Paris 6 hours 1970 was the one after the 115-GT/X-115. A racing mid section and gearcase.
The Johnson was named Stinger & the Evinrude Starflite 115/SS.
The early ones did not have powertrim but the Stinger V-4 Sanders & Posey used in Paris 1970 did have powertrim.
A few pictures of the Evinrude Starflite from 1970..I dont have any right now of the Stinger.

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[lars strom]

Paris 6 hours 1979 was a BIG one..!!

This was the year when all the big name drivers drove the OZ class.
You could really tell the crazy battle between Merc and OMC in the pit before the race.

Merc used the T-4 mixed with the regular V6 for the OZ class.
OMC the 3 liter V6 mixed with some V6 cross-flow.

Some Merc OZ class entries.
Seebold - Earl Benz T-4
Percival - Sutter T-4
Mike Seebold - Erwin Zimmerman T-4
Jenkins - Curt Todd Mariner T-4 (if I remember right)
Nicholson - Cripps
Inward - Tony Williams
Werner - Brinkaert
Halssa - Jeff Edwards

Some OMC OZ class entries

Renato Molinari - Barry Woods 3 liter
Sanders - Jimbo 3 liter
Velden - Posey 3 liter
Spalding - Stevenson 3 liter
Pelster - ??
Bullen - ??

For me Paris 6 hours 1979 was a new adventure..I teamed up with Sture Sjoberg a Swedish friend of mine and helped him develop a new boat for the OE class. The boat was ready in the last minute and the first test was a practice lap before the race in Paris.
We ended up third in the OE class and was really happy with that.
The only picture of our Paris OE class boat is this one. Its the one below the orange/blue on the trailer.

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The start..you can see the three Merc T4 and a few OMC 3 liters.

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This year was a wild one and the river Seine got extremely rough. Not sure if Jimbo hit the solid turning buoy or not but not much left of his Molinari below.

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At 5:00 PM Sunday afternoon Cees van der Velden/Tom Posey was the OZ class/overall winner with Renato/Barry second.

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[lars strom]

Paris 6 hours 1980.

This was another great year in Paris..for many reasons..full story coming within an hour.
The start 1980..I am in here somewhere..

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[lars strom]

Paris 6 hours 1980 the way I remember it..!!

We finally got the second Sture Sjoberg OE class boat right and was ready in time for the big race.
Our race number for the Alfa Laval/AKAI/Sjoberg was #45 and the latest Evinrude CC engine from OMC.
My brother Lennart and Anders Fallman was racing our boat from last year with #46.
Lined up next to each other for the start.
(Red mark)

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A few more picture of the start 1980.
The start is not very important in a 6 hour race but you need a safe start without damaging your boat. 80 boats taking of at the same time is a recipe for disaster.

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[lars strom]

This year(1980) was not as windy as 1979 and the conditions perfect for our #45 boat.
Fueling and driver change was done every hour and a half.
Meaning I started and Sture was racing the last hour and a half.
John Hill run in to problems already the first hour and we was more or less flying without any problem's for 6 hours..
I love the way Powerboat & Waterskiing wrote..

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Sunday 5:00 PM October 5 1980..(Exactly 40 years ago today) our #45 boat won the very large popular OE class in the famous race.
Eight years of trying finally gave us the result we wanted so bad.

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Here we are at the fancy dinner Hilton, Paris Sunday night receiving trophies and price money. A memory for the rest of our lives.

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[lars strom]

The OZ class and overall winner in Paris 1980 was Bob Spalding & Ken Stevenson.
Driving the #12 Carlsberg/Velden/Johnson V6 RS 3 liter


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[lars strom]

Paris 6 hours 1981.

This year YMCF - (Yacht Moteur Club de France) & Jean-Noël Bladinaire the Club's President got really political.
The YMCF in partnership with Mercury ban the OZ class. Only the ON class..Meaning OMC could not compete with the new F1-V8.
My Swedish friend Ove Jansson was the President for OMC France. He was trying extremely hard to make
Jean-Noël Bladinaire change his mind..but no OZ class in Paris anymore.
OMC and all the F1-V8 drivers was not in Paris.
I get back to this later.

The setup for me this year was to run my red AKAI/Burgess/Evinrude CC in the OE class with my brother Lennart.
We got race #38.
Paris was extremely cold/windy and plenty of rain over the weekend.
Here is the program.

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I dont have any pictures from the race of our #38 boat.
Only this one from the pit..red dot..low right corner.

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The Swedish magazine FIB Aktuellt was with us in Paris and this picture of the start is from their magazine..Sorry for Swedish only..

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I guess our Evinrude CC engine did not like the very cold/windy weekend and broke down pretty early in the race.
We got back to the hotel early and turned the heat on.

One more birds eye picture from the 1981 race.
Thanks.

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[lars strom]

Paris 6 hours 1982.....

Well..this was the second year of what I call "the Merc 2 liter series" running the show and nothing was the classic 6 hour race anymore.
Thinking back I first thought it was 2 X 1.5 hour races..but reading some magazine info..it was more like 3 x 1 hour heat races.
I did not like anything with the new way of running the classic 6 hour race..but "the Merc 2 liter series" was more or less in charge.
Only the ON, OE and the SE class was invited..(no inboards)

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My white AKAI/Burgess/Evinrude #90 was extremely ready for any thing in Paris 1982. Only one driver was needed and he was ready.
One more picture of the start below..


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First is a picture of my OE class #90 Burgess/Evinrude CC below and I like to add we picked up a new powerhead at the Paris airport the day before the race. Sent to me by Ric McChesney/Jim Nerstrom at OMC, Waukegan.
Thank you very much.

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I dont remember much from the 3 one hour heat races but o few lines in Powerboat & Waterskiing magazine says it all..:)

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The OE class result.

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[Greg G]

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[lars strom]

Paris 6 hours 1983.

1983 was the year I left the popular OE/F3 class for F1-V8 racing.
This was possible because my success in the Aspen OE/F3 series 1981 & 82.

The sad part was the OZ class was still "no more" in Paris so I was not racing in Paris 1983/84 and 85 during my F1-V8 racing.
A very sad feeling..!!
(One positive note is in 1983 the Paris race was back as a solid 6 hour race)

In the summer of 1986 my brother Lennart asked me to team up with him and drive his green OE/F3 class Mecman/Burgess/Evinrude CC in the Paris 6 hour race.
We made a deal and before the Paris race I drove his green Mecman/Burgess/Evinrude CC in the last OE/F3 race for the season in the world series.
If i remember right the race was in Liege, Belgium and Lennart was racing his brand new red Burgess.

All this including Paris 1986 is the next story..Coming soon..!!

[Lake X Kid]

Lars traditionally the Paris 6 Hour race pits, were on the same side of the river as the Eiffel Tower.
But in this 1982 photo, the race boats are starting on the opposite side of the Eiffel Tower.
So did they make a pit change location, for the 1982 race?
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[Rotary John]

Looks like photo shop. the tower isn't that close to the river on either side.

[lars strom]

Lars traditionally the Paris 6 Hour race pits, were on the same side of the river as the Eiffel Tower.
But in this 1982 photo, the race boats are starting on the opposite side of the Eiffel Tower.
So did they make a pit change location, for the 1982 race?
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Correct..everything was different 1982 and we did start from the other side of the river Seine.
It was not a 6 hour race..instead 9 heat races. The only American in the race was Gene Thibodaux.
The picture of one of the nine starts with the Eiffel tower in the background is from Powerboat & Waterskiing Magazine November/December 1982 issue.
Its not a photo shop.

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[Rotary John]

I didn't think the tower was that close to the river. might be just the photo is deceiving.

[lars strom]

This picture is from the Paris pit 1974. You can see how close the race location was to the famous tower.
Three hundred thousand spectators was watching the race Sunday and the train stopped at the bridge a few minutes so passenger onboard could see the race.
In my opinion by far the best boat race ever..!!
Well..I know some are saying Havasu was better..maybe the race itself was, but a race in the dessert cant compare with a race in the center of the most romantic city in the world..:)
I loved the Paris 6 hour race and won the OE class three times.
(1980, 1982 and 1986)

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The Eiffel tower was pretty close to the pit. A road and a smaller square between..
This picture above is from the pit..you can see the air scoop of Hook/Badsey's ScottiCraft in the picture.

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[STEVERINO]

The Eiffel tower was pretty close to the pit. A road and a smaller square between..
This picture above is from the pit..you can see the air scoop of Hook/Badsey's ScottiCraft in the picture.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=474902&stc=1&d=1602512669 The boat was Clive Hooks embassy Cougar that Badsey and Clive Hook used at Windemere.

[lars strom]

Paris 6 Hours 1986.

The last F3 race in the UIM F3 World Series in Liege, Belgium was the first stop for us on the way to Paris.
I dont remember if my brother Lennart was already the 1986 F3 World Champion or not. Lennart raced his new red Burgess and I raced his green Burgess with #21 in the first picture.
I needed some practice in an F3 Burgess again after three seasons in my F1-V8 Burgess.
Lennart got his second F3 World title and I got in trouble with the race organization. After a great start Lennart passed me and I was holding up Andy Elliott behind me in a pretty tough way..I was used to race that way but new UIM rules made it in a very gray area. I got away with a warning and a very upset Andy Elliott..(R.I.P my friend)
Years later Andy always brought up our fight in Belgium and I responded with a smile.
UIM was also having a yearly meeting at the same time in Liege and Charlie Strang came up to me and talked about my driving style..
All good..now we was on the way south to Paris.
The second picture is me and Lennart in Liege. You can see parts of his red 1986 F3 World Champion Burgess in the background.

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[lars strom]

Paris 6 Hours 1986 coming soon..
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Some great OMC power by Monty Racing.
Thanks

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[lars strom]

Jimbo McConnell ScottiCraft/Evinrude Rotary 4 stroke.

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[lars strom]

http://www.falconamerica.com/

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[oldschoolltv]

Sad day.

[lars strom]

Well..yes but not really. The test center was not very important anymore. Not used at all the way OMC did.

The bigger problem for the Evinrude brand name is BRP still owns it..!!

[lars strom]

Rotary John
Is this correct ??

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[FMP]

Well..yes but not really. The test center was not very important anymore. Not used at all the way OMC did.

The bigger problem for the Evinrude brand name is BRP still owns it..!!

Possibly more along the lines of who is on board of directors and affiliates.

[Rotary John]

@Rotary John (https://www.screamandfly.com/member.php?u=48164)
Is this correct ??

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Not that I'm aware of. Never happened when I was there and I don't remember ever running rotaries on Lake Powell.

[Rotary John]

Well..yes but not really. The test center was not very important anymore. Not used at all the way OMC did.

The bigger problem for the Evinrude brand name is BRP still owns it..!!
You forgot to mention, they own the Johnson Outboard name also.

[lars strom]

You forgot to mention, they own the Johnson Outboard name also.


Yes, you are correct. BRP never cared for the Johnson brand but still a very big name in the outboard business.
Thanks for your input about the rotary/lake Powell.

[WaterZebra]

Yes, you are correct. BRP never cared for the Johnson brand but still a very big name in the outboard business.
Thanks for your input about the rotary/lake Powell.

When did the two brands merge to begin with? I know I have a book about OMC somewhere? I'm surprised that the Johnson line even survived past the 1960's?

[lars strom]

WaterZebra

Johnson was part of OMC for many many years. Dont remember exactly from what year but Johnson outsold Evinrude most years.

[keith scotton]

Steve Briggs the boss of OMMC took over on 9-30-1936.

[lars strom]

Johnson and Evinrude had different manufacturing plants until about 1982 when things consolidated in Waukegan.
They were different motors until the early to mid '50s when they were the same except for styling and that the 18 hp remained for years even as Johnson's 18 became a 20hp. per Ralph Evinrude - he thought the Evinrude 18 a classic.
For 1999 Johnson and Evinrude became different motors and when Bombardier took over in 2001, they were different again until the Johnson was discontinued in 2007.

[lars strom]

I got this picture from David Haman.
David was one of the OMC people developing the SST-45 engine.
He was also the man in charge at the Evinrude Test Center in Stuart up to BRP closed down Evinrude in May 2020..
A very good friend of mine.

This is the comment David wrote yesterday about the picture from Three Rivers Regatta 1983.
Thanks David.

"Hi Lars,I agree, it's a great picture of you and your boat.
I just got lucky with the camera, as so much of the photo turned out good ;
- Good focus, you can easily read the notations on your boat, ie - "World Champion F3" :)

- No other boats in the shot, so not distracted from viewing the beauty of your rig
- Excellent boat attitude, perfect trim, and the boat is hardly even touching the water
- Great crowd and Pittsburgh fountain(s) in the background
And, if you look real close, I think you can see the smile on your face :)"


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[lars strom]

More from David Haman,
(thanks)

"This image is a stop-motion screenshot from a 1983 F1 V8 promotional video. There is a portion of the video where they show and talk about you. Very cool !!!"

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[Rotary John]

Johnson and Evinrude had different manufacturing plants until about 1982 when things consolidated in Waukegan.
They were different motors until the early to mid '50s when they were the same except for styling and that the 18 hp remained for years even as Johnson's 18 became a 20hp. per Ralph Evinrude - he thought the Evinrude 18 a classic.
For 1999 Johnson and Evinrude became different motors and when Bombardier took over in 2001, they were different again until the Johnson was discontinued in 2007.
While you are correct the Waukegan plant was called Johnson and the Milwaukee plant was called Evinrude. However, If I remember correctly the large engines were made in the Johnson Plant and the small engines were made in the Evinrude plant. The only difference between the two were the color of the paint and the shroud decals.

[lars strom]

Yes but some Evinrude models was 4 strokes the last years with OMC and some larger Johnson was Suzuki 4 strokes during BRP years selling Johnson.

[lars strom]

This is a 1999 Evinrude 70HP 4 stroke from OMC made by Suzuki

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[lars strom]

140, 200 & 225 HP Johnson 4 stroke from BRP. All made by Suzuki.

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[lars strom]

This is from the the last years of Johnson outboards by BRP..
2005/06.
The large V-6 Johnson was 4 stroke's made by Suzuki.

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[lars strom]

The 2001 Evinrude sales brochure by OMC
Front / back and some inside.
This one was out in August/September 2000.
A few months before the sad December 22 day when OMC was no more.
That's the big thing..Not the news BRP sold the test center in Stuart a few months ago.

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[lars strom]

Cees Van Der Velden in one of his first Velden boats 1975.
Johnson Stinger GP V6 power.

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[2us70]

I knew several people who had those Ficht motors. They injected fuel like an electric spray paint gun. Pretty much all those guys got stranded by failures with this system. I thought that was the beginning of the end for OMC.

[lars strom]

The F1-V8 line up in Paris GP 1984.
My #8 Burgess/ITC/Evinrude boat is third from the right. Tom Percival and I was racing for the same sponsor. International Travel Card.
Photo credit unknown.
From left:
Molinari, Velden, Salabert, Spalding, Percival,Bullen,Jenkins, Mostert, Frost, Vidoli, Strom, Hakkinen not sure about the last boats.

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[STEVERINO]

Cees Van Der Velden in one of his first Velden boats 1975.
Johnson Stinger GP V6 power.

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[lars strom]

That boat was Cees old Molinari the same boat Barry Woods barrelrolled in the 1975 Cardiff international race.

OK thanks..here is the first Velden boat 1975.


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[lars strom]

The F1-V8 line up in Paris GP 1984.
My #8 Burgess/ITC/Evinrude boat is third from the right. Tom Percival and I was racing for the same sponsor. International Travel Card.
Photo credit unknown.
From left:
Molinari, Velden, Salabert, Spalding, Percival,Bullen,Jenkins, Mostert, Frost, Vidoli, Strom, Hakkinen not sure about the last boats.

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More F1-V8 racing in Paris 1984

The Paris GP 1984 was run in the beginning of June 1984 organized by Hélice Club de France.
The first picture is the race location a very nice place for racing, but the famous river Seine was always rough on drivers and boats.
Tom Percival and I was racing for the same sponsor.. "International Travel Card". The second picture is Tom's #10 Hodges/Evinrude V8.
I dont have a picture of my #8 Burgess but it was looking pretty similar in the "International Travel Card" colors.
Gérard Barthélémy was a new french driver and he was out testing before the race. I was watching him flying down the race course and at the end of the course wide open he took off..a very bad flipp and we lost Gérard..
A terrible feeling watching and nothing you can do.
R.I.P my friend.
The Paris GP was run the next day but it was a very tough deal..
http://svera.se/blogg/f1-v8-racing-in-parisfrance-1984/

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[lars strom]

Production E-TEC 250H.O. powerhead installed on the 6 inch racing mid section.

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[lars strom]

Today is Jim Nerstrom's birthday. Jim was one of the very best at OMC engineering/racing.
Happy Birthday Jim.

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[Watermark]

[QUOTE=lars strom;3240440]Today is Jim Nerstrom's birthday. Jim was one of the very best at OMC engineering/racing.
Happy Birthday Jim.
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Extending best wishes to Jim on his special day!! Indeed, Jim contributed enormously to our sport, as well as providing many happy memories for those fortunate enough to compete with the engines he engineered.

Photo of Mod U/V6 OMC Driver Bud Babbitt and Jim taken at the Port Neches, TX. Grand Prix about 10 years ago.

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Happy Birthday!

- Mark Rotharmel

[lars strom]

Watermark

That is a great post/picture. Thank you very much.:iagree:

[lars strom]

Production E-TEC 250H.O. powerhead installed on the 6 inch racing mid section.

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Some comments, Keith Whittle was the owner/driver of the boat.

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[lars strom]

It’s getting colder here at our fun Lake of the Ozarks and time to head south pretty soon. Our motorcoach is ready to go whenever we are.
Started up the 14 liter Detroit Series 60 engine today and let it run on high idle for about one hour.

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[lars strom]

The H3-45 Prevost-Marathon "basement" have a lot of stuff and storage.
Big doors and here is some pictures.
If you look close..everything is made out of stainless steel.

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This is the "dump bay". Water hook up, dump for grey & black water, A door in the floor and you push a bottom and the big dump hose is flying out. Not used now. The tanks are empty.

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This is a bay for water-pumps, water-heaters, electric bay heaters etc, everything is 110/220 Volt..(some emergency 12 volt water pumps)

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Behind the wall in this bay is two big inverters..turning six large Lifeline batteries in to 110 volt. Refrigerator is like the one in your house. This coach is all electric..(no propane)..You can run two air cond on the inverters without running the generator for around 6 hours.

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The 20 KW 4 cylinder diesel generator and a smaller compressor for stuff running from air pressure onboard. Doors etc.

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Electric bay and some storage. A box of spare parts also.

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My bay..tools etc.

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Storage bay..some owner have a Harley Road King in this bay.

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Storage.

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More storage.

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This bay have a TV, Loud Stereo etc,

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This is bay is under the drivers seat.

[lars strom]

A few pictures inside.
Note: the large slide outs are in. When we stay onboard we bring them out and the living-room and bedroom is much larger.

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[Mark75H]

[QUOTE=lars strom;3240440]Today is Jim Nerstrom's birthday. Jim was one of the very best at OMC engineering/racing.
Happy Birthday Jim.
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Extending best wishes to Jim on his special day!! Indeed, Jim contributed enormously to our sport, as well as providing many happy memories for those fortunate enough to compete with the engines he engineered.

Photo of Mod U/V6 OMC Driver Bud Babbitt and Jim taken at the Port Neches, TX. Grand Prix about 10 years ago.

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Happy Birthday!

- Mark Rotharmel


Bud Sr, Bud Jr was an icon himself as a helmet painter/graphic artist

[Watermark]

[QUOTE=Watermark;3240457]


Bud Sr, Bud Jr was an icon himself as a helmet painter/graphic artist

That's right, Mark75H. Bud Jr. (Buddy) was also a passionate historian of our sport and created/ maintained one of the early websites on powerboat racing. Knew all of the drivers, and they knew and respected him. A wonderful young man who left us far too early.

Here's a shot of Bud Sr. and Oley Berkis going through a turn at St. Louis, with Bud clearly getting the worst of Oley's wake. Oley was known for entering corners wide, and turning on the pin - rarely gave an inch and clearly didn't this time. Bud would have been closing on the inside.

Not much love followed that incident, let me tell you!

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[lars strom]

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=448091

Start of St. Louis GP, 1979. Bud Babbitt #95, Bucky Morris #522, Mark Rotharmel #11.

Here is one more picture by @Watermark (https://www.screamandfly.com/member.php?u=11289)

[WaterZebra]

Here is one more picture by @Watermark (https://www.screamandfly.com/member.php?u=11289)

Taking into consideration that St. Louis was considered "home turf" for Mercury, why did the OMC boats always appear to be self-financed independents? Even with the introduction of the V8 tours in both the USA and Europe there never was a true set of "factory" boats?

[Instigator]

Gorgeous Lars!

My wife and I agree that when we’re done boating (and working) that that’s what we’re going to do.

The arrival of the slide outs was a game changer.


A few pictures inside.
Note: the large slide outs are in. When we stay onboard we bring them out and the living-room and bedroom is much larger.

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[keith scotton]

I sent Keith Whittle a copy of RPM Magazine a brp produced magazine with a picture of the boat running early in 2010.

[lars strom]

Taking into consideration that St. Louis was considered "home turf" for Mercury, why did the OMC boats always appear to be self-financed independents? Even with the introduction of the V8 tours in both the USA and Europe there never was a true set of "factory" boats?

Well..the only real factory boat during the OMC F1-V8 racing was Jimbo McConnell..
The reason for the V8 not racing in St. Louis was the OZ class was not invited. Only the 2 liter class.
I think JPS, Team Martini and B&H was pretty good as part factory.

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[lars strom]

Gorgeous Lars!

My wife and I agree that when we’re done boating (and working) that that’s what we’re going to do.

The arrival of the slide outs was a game changer.

Thanks..
Well..yes and no when it comes to slide outs. Good and bad..here is why..Slide outs are great when you are parked. Must RVs today are designed so they are more or less impossible to use when slides are in.
If you travel and like to stop overnight to sleep.. in some RVs you cant even go to the bathroom/bedroom without putting the slides out.
We have owned two Prevost without slides and they are also great if designed right.
Here is a few pictures of our Prevost/Marathon XLll. No slides.

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[2us70]

I assume the trailer is your mobile garage.

[lars strom]

I assume the trailer is your mobile garage.

Well..yes a car and motorcycle. Workbench, tools, spare tires for the bus. A loft for my wife's stuff.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=475736&d=1603501693

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=475737&d=1603501711

[WaterZebra]

Well..the only real factory boat during the OMC F1-V8 racing was Jimbo McConnell..
The reason for the V8 not racing in St. Louis was the OZ class was not invited. Only the 2 liter class.
I think JPS, Team Martini and B&H was pretty good as part factory.

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Europe had more success with corporate backing than we did in the USA. Seebold had Budweiser and Robertson had just a touch from IBM. Everybody else kind of wrote their own ticket. Tobacco sponsorships were well on the way out in the USA before Europe. NASCAR seemed to attract all of the corporate sponsorship. Boat racing did not. Geico would have been nice but they focused on offshore. Software giants, Amazon and Google are so big that motorsports of any kind do not interest them. i was amused at local sponsorship expectations. Some wanted graphics over the entire hull for a mere $500 on a weekend (not a racing season). Thank goodness for vinyl graphics and hair dryers (LOL).

[2us70]

Your mobile lifestyle certainly requires attention to detail and organization. Very impressive.
Well..yes a car and motorcycle. Workbench, tools, spare tires for the bus. A loft for my wife's stuff.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=475736&d=1603501693

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=475737&d=1603501711

[lars strom]

Your mobile lifestyle certainly requires attention to detail and organization.
Very impressive.

Thanks..its a lot of work to keep the Prevost XLll by Marathon nice. The outside/and big part of the frame are polished stainless steel. I did all the maintenance myself including detailing.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=475750&d=1603557947

[lars strom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eccTZbZq4k&feature=emb_logo

[2us70]

Your a better man than I am Lars Strom.
Thanks..its a lot of work to keep the Prevost XLll by Marathon nice. The outside/and big part of the frame are polished stainless steel. I did all the maintenance myself including detailing.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=475750&d=1603557947

[lars strom]

Cees Van Der Velden is up front in his #1 Johnson Stinger GP V6 (in the Rotterdam race 1975)

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[Lake X Kid]

Kudos to the St. Louis GP for consistently drawing large crowds to watch the races.
Albeit other host cities in USA, wish they knew the process to gravitate the same interest at their race events.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=448091

[lars strom]

Happy Birthday Johnnie Sanders.. 84 years young today.:cheers:

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[Mark75H]

Kudos to the St. Louis GP for consistently drawing large crowds to watch the races.
Albeit other host cities in USA, wish they knew the process to gravitate the same interest at their race events.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=448091

Having a local hero helps

[Lake X Kid]

Speculation on my part, but I think I just found out why there was an OMC facility in Stuart Florida.

Ralph Evinrude had additional interests in the south Florida area. Mainly his wife Frances Langford a Floridian.
Frances was a past Hollywood actress, and had also toured with Bob Hope entertaining the soldiers.

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[Dave S]

Yaa back When........in New York.... HeeHee......Up in the Northen Neck......Of LI, Eatons Neck.......EORC....? having a race.....No imput.......My Buddy got the NewsDay to runn an article about the race....... Very good turn out.......But that was THEN.........Mask up shut up......

[lars strom]

The 6 our race in South Africa in the winter of 1969/70 is very interesting for this thread..!!
Here is why..!!

Cesare Scotti in the first picture and Renato Molinari in the second picture.
Scotti was racing the #23 Molinari/Evinrude Starflite SS V4 third picture.
Renato Molinari was racing the #22 Molinari/Evinrude Starflite SS V4 behind the #23.
The race was run at Umgeni River, just outside Pietermaritzburg.
After 6 hours Scotti won and Renato was second.

Thanks to Terry Weddell for info and pictures.


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[lars strom]

Both the #22 & #23 Molinari/Evinrude Starflite SS V4 boats Renato & Scotti drove in the 6 hour race, South Africa 1969/70 are saved and in pretty good shape.
Here is the Trophy's from the race

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[peterse90]

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Mark Rotharmel in a Burgess that Mark drove here in Canada. I would guess this used to be Roger Jenkin's Burgess (?).
Guess I could just ask Mark...but that would be too easy.

[lars strom]

Pretty sure it is a former Jenkins Carlsberg Burgess.
Trying to figure out witch one..not the one Roger raced/crashed 1983 in Minneapolis..
Looks like it is an 1984 Evinrude engine cover..its probably the one David Burgess built after the 1983 crash for the rest of the 1983 season.
The Burgess Roger raced in 1984 used a newer type boat cowlings.
Well..it could be Rogers 1982 World Champion Burgess. Watermark

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[lars strom]

This is Rogers 1984 style Burgess..the one he raced before switching to Hodges.

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[lars strom]

Zumba "Halloween" today..!!
Scary..:):)

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[Lake X Kid]

Later in 1971:
Cesare Scotti is manufacturing his own tunnel brand race boats.
Renato Molinari is driving for the Mercury factory team.

[QUOTE=lars strom;3241471]The 6 our race in South Africa in the winter of 1969/70 is very interesting for this thread..!!
Here is why..!!

Cesare Scotti in the first picture and Renato Molinari in the second picture.
Scotti was racing the #23 Molinari/Evinrude Starflite SS V4 third picture.
Renato Molinari was racing the #22 Molinari/Evinrude Starflite SS V4 behind the #23.
The race was run at Umgeni River, just outside Pietermaritzburg.
After 6 hours Scotti won and Renato was second.

Thanks to Terry Weddell for info and pictures.




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[lars strom]

Paris 6 Hours 1971
Story & Photos by C.D. STRANG.


https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=424958&d=1544098923


@Lake X Kid (https://www.screamandfly.com/member.php?67246-Lake-X-Kid) Thanks.

Scotti in Paris 1971

[lars strom]

This is probably more fun than old racing stuff..
Dinner at JB Hooks with great friends..!!

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[lars strom]

This is one of the engines built by a french race team a few years ago. They got upset with no support from BRP and stopped.

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[lars strom]

A stop at Redhead..
I love “Tracey’s” t-shirt..:iagree:

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[lars strom]

Another beautiful day boating.
A bit on the cold side but that’s nothing for a viking..!!

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[lars strom]

Renato Molinari in his titanium aluminum and carbon fiber F1-V8 boat powered by a racing Evinrude V8.
Probably the "Hottest Single" ever.
The year is 1982.
Thanks Alan Green.

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[lars strom]

In 1983 Allan Nimmo purchased the titanium aluminum and carbon fiber F1-V8 boat from Renato and raced the world series
Switched to Johnson power and the now #15 boat was in the Castrol Oil colors.
The first picture is the start in Stockholm GB 1983


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[lars strom]

Allan Nimmo in Stockholm GB 1983

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[lars strom]

Renato Molinari in his titanium aluminum and carbon fiber F1-V8 boat powered by a racing Evinrude V8.
Probably the "Hottest Single" ever.
The year is 1982.
Thanks Alan Green.

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[lars strom]

Later in 1971:
Cesare Scotti is manufacturing his own tunnel brand race boats.
Renato Molinari is driving for the Mercury factory team.

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[/QUO TE]

OK..so Renato drove for the Mercury factory team 6 years..1971 to 1976.
Left Mercury for the Evinrude factory and raced for them 8 years..1977 to 1984.

[lars strom]

A new boat business is opening up here in Osage Beach.
Its in Tim Seebolds building.

https://www.boat-wrx.com/

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[WaterZebra]

A new boat business is opening up here in Osage Beach.
Its in Tim Seebolds building.

https://www.boat-wrx.com/

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Is Tim Seebold's motorcycle / ATV business gone?

[lars strom]

Is Tim Seebold's motorcycle / ATV business gone?

Yes, Tim sold his Motorcycle / ATV business a few years ago. Still owns the real estate and rented to Iguana Boats sales.
Now they are gone and a new marine business is in.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=476548&d=1604621728

[lars strom]

This is from our first visit at Seebold Sports 2007-08.

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[lars strom]

https://www.tradeonlytoday.com/industry-news/seven-marine-outboards-to-be-retired

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[WaterZebra]

https://www.tradeonlytoday.com/industry-news/seven-marine-outboards-to-be-retired

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No surprise here. Too exotic and way too expensive (Compared to Mercury and Yamaha). Based on R&D capital outlay, I don't expect Honda to step up with a V8 either.

[powerabout]

so 450hp good but 650hp bad?

[WaterZebra]

This is from our first visit at Seebold Sports 2007-08.

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I guess its better to see these hulls hanging in the rafters rather than rotting in a barn or field somewhere. I don't even want to think about where all of the OMC V8 hulls have ended up. I spend a lot of energy fending off thoughts on where all of my equipment is now.:(

[lars strom]

Well..this is my own speculations, but I am pretty sure Seven Marine outboards is going the same way as Evinrude. (no more)
Volvo Penta..(the owner of Seven Marine) are soon going to stop building 7 Marine outboards..its possible that is already the case.

One more "speculation"..Mercury Marine is working on a 600+HP V-12 outboard. (maybe a V10)
Coming soon.
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2 months ago..

[lars strom]

I guess the “Paris Climate Agreement” is slowly going to make boating hard..!!

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[lars strom]

It’s going to be interesting to see how VP is going forward with fossil fuel inboard engines..

[powerabout]

do any boat builders still install IPS's?

[Capt.Insane-o]

:rolleyes:

[lars strom]

https://www.marinebusinessworld.com/news/232329/Volvo-Penta-hits-30000-IPS-installations

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[Lake X Kid]

Those forward mounting puller-props are nice.
A boat owner has to decide if I hit a log or trash in the water, do I want my props to get dinged.
Or is it better to have a conventional lower unit with the props behind the skeg fin, for protection against the debris in the water.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=476637&d=1604722770

[lars strom]

https://www.tradeonlytoday.com/industry-news/mercury-marine-unveils-forward-facing-drive

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[powerabout]

Its a more efficient i will give them that but talk to an owner.
Gone from asia as we have some twigs in the water.
Everytime you go out you need to have the props repaired.

[powerabout]

I guess the “Paris Climate Agreement” is slowly going to make boating hard..!!

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So volvo moving into sailing boats made from renewable products.
The "Green death" will take on a new meaning

[peterse90]

do any boat builders still install IPS's?

I'm in the boat business and sell Regals and Cruisers Yachts. While most new models from these 2 builders are outboards, both still sell plenty of IPS powered boats.
In our market here in Ontario, Canada the market is still I/O and IPS on boats we sell 35 to 60 feet. As an example in Georgian Bay most cruiser style boats need or want to carry a dinghy - tough to do with outboards.
As far as some 'getting their shorts in a knot' over fossil fuels being extinct in the near future, think about it. Most of us still have gasoline powered cars & trucks that may not need to be replaced for years to come. Think about how important trucking is to moving goods across the continent - not too many electric trucks yet or probably for years to come. If it comes down to economics 101 (supply & demand) there will be fossil fuel refined and available for years to come. Just my opinion.

[lars strom]

MarineMax sell lots of Galeon Yachts and Azimut Yachts. Most of them are powered by VP IPS.
Like it or not the VP IPS is a big success.
The Zeus drive by Cummins/Merc is more or less gone.

Volvo Penta is a Swedish based company and must follow laws set up by the Swedish Government and they are mildly said "liberal"

[lars strom]

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[LakeFever]

MarineMax sell lots of Galeon Yachts and Azimut Yachts. Most of them are powered by VP IPS.
Like it or not the VP IPS is a big success.
The Zeus drive by Cummins/Merc is more or less gone.

Volvo Penta is a Swedish based company and must follow laws set up by the Swedish Government and they are mildly said "liberal"

The Zhejiang Geely holding Group of China owns AB Volvo the parent co of Penta

[lars strom]

The Zhejiang Geely holding Group of China owns AB Volvo the parent co of Penta

Well..that’s not correct.
Ford sold Volvo Cars to China.
The Chinese owns around 10% of the other part of Volvo including trucks heavy equipment and Volvo Penta.

[LakeFever]

I stand corrected, apologies

[nitro_rat]

I told you she didn't look like she appreciated seven marine...

[powerabout]

MarineMax sell lots of Galeon Yachts and Azimut Yachts. Most of them are powered by VP IPS.
Like it or not the VP IPS is a big success.
The Zeus drive by Cummins/Merc is more or less gone.

Volvo Penta is a Swedish based company and must follow laws set up by the Swedish Government and they are mildly said "liberal"


What was the failure of the Zeus?

Or simple as packaging like Volvo trucks and buses, the whole package made the best deal?

[Capt.Insane-o]

So safe to say VP basically bought 7M and the IP to forever dissolve the brand in the name of enviro naziism

[lars strom]

What was the failure of the Zeus?


Zeus more or less disappeared when the Cummins/Mercury diesel engine agreement ended a few years ago.

[lars strom]

A surprise yesterday when I did see this 2021 Iviara 32 at MarineMax, Lake of the Ozarks.
Did not know Ilmor build there own duo-prop stern-drive.

https://www.ilmor.com/Marine/One-Drive/

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[lars strom]

https://www.volvopenta.com/en-us/about-us/news-media/press-releases/2020/oct/volvo-penta-uses-pilot-technology-in-one-of-the-uks-first-hybrid-crew-transfer-vessels/

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[powerabout]

The electric motor should be on the pod.
Lots of electric pods on commercial vessels

[lars strom]

The electric motor should be on the pod.


HaaHaa..you tell VP..they are like all other big corporations..and dont care what buyers think.

[lars strom]

The Parker 9 Hours winner 1970.
Thanks Ron Hill

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[powerabout]

HaaHaa..you tell VP..they are like all other big corporations..and dont care what buyers think.

Lol
And the drive should install and remove vertically

[lars strom]

Cool..:cool:

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[lars strom]

Ben Robertson at Pittsburgh, PA.
Thanks Ron Hill

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[lars strom]

FRED AND RON IS GETTING READY FOR THE 225 CLASSIC IN MIAMI, July weather...

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[lars strom]

Ron Hill's boat racing book is out:
"Ron Hill Here!"
128 pages of fun reading!https://www.lulu.com/en/en/shop/ron-...wByHc60oBgHFX4

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(https://www.lulu.com/en/en/shop/ron-...wByHc60oBgHFX4)

[Instigator]

Cool!
I want one.

Link does not work Lars.


Ron Hill's boat racing book is out:
"Ron Hill Here!"
128 pages of fun reading!

https://www.lulu.com/en/en/shop/ron-...wByHc60oBgHFX4

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(https://www.lulu.com/en/en/shop/ron-...wByHc60oBgHFX4)

[lars strom]

Not sure why..but the link works from my FB page.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2043017495976607

[lars strom]

https://youtu.be/7DD4BeAU32o

[lars strom]

https://hyperelectricmarine.com/

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[2us70]

Pretty cool if you only want to go 40 miles. Wonder how much it costs?

[WaterZebra]

Pretty cool if you only want to go 40 miles. Wonder how much it costs?

40 miles today........will be something better in 2 years. Everybody is struggling with range and charging cycles. Battery technology is the keystone component. Remember the Honda Insight? It's a laugh today but was cutting edge tech when it came out. Not to mention butt ugly. It made a Dodge DeSoto look good.:thumbsup:

[oldschoolltv]

Someone needs to offer up a Mirage or Stv and let’s see how many Rpm’s that baby can turn.

[lars strom]

Thanks Fast on Water.
11 Bob Spalding Velden Racing/Johnson V8
1982

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[lars strom]

Norway 1973.
Johnson Stinger GP and an SE class Evinrude SS
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[lars strom]

# 56 ON class Schulze/Johnson Stinger GP.
Owner Johan Lyder von Tangen (https://www.facebook.com/johanlyder.vontangen?fref=ufi&rc=p) of Norway.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=401393&d=1520611931


A better picture of the #56 Schulze/Stinger GP.

[lars strom]

Bob Schubert is testing his restored tunnel boat #161 with a Johnson V4 Stinger GP
Pictures by me

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[lars strom]

Andre Dierckx of Belgium is racing an Evinrude 2 liter V6 Super Strangler in Drammen, Norway 1975.
If I remember right its a Cougar boat.

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[lars strom]

EPIC racing.
Down under.
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[lars strom]

Bob Spalding and Bertil Wik 1985. From TC

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[Instigator]

Gorgeous!!


Bob Schubert is testing his restored tunnel boat #161 with a Johnson V4 Stinger GP
Pictures by me

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[lars strom]

The Evinrude V6 Super Strangler was raced for the first time late 1973.
It was a 2 liter cross-flow carb model. In the Johnson colors the name was V6 Stinger GP.

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[lars strom]

The Evinrude V6 Super Strangler was raced for the first time late 1973.
It was a 2 liter cross-flow carb model. In the Johnson colors the name was V6 Stinger GP.

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[lars strom]

The Johnson V6 Stinger GP was raced for the first time in Paris 6 hours 1973 and won the race.
It was a 2 liter cross-flow carb model.

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[Rotary John]

Johnny Sander drove the winning Johnson V-6 at Paris 1973. It was the first time the V-6 was raced and was a fabricated special. Only 2 were built. The cranks were made for 2 V-4 cranks welded together.

[WaterZebra]

The Johnson V6 Stinger GP was raced for the first time in Paris 6 hours 1973 and won the race.
It was a 2 liter cross-flow carb model.

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Who is driving #20 in the bottom photo? Barry Woods? The boat has USA / Washington state registration numbers on it.

[Rotary John]

It's Sanders/Posey 1973 Paris. It's Barry's old boat.

[lars strom]

Who is driving #20 in the bottom photo? Barry Woods? The boat has USA / Washington state registration numbers on it.

More info..

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[lars strom]

Jimbo McConnell in his #14 ScottiCraft/Evinrude V6 Super Strangler in Bristol 1974.

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[STEVERINO]

Johnny Sander drove the winning Johnson V-6 at Paris 1973. It was the first time the V-6 was raced and was a fabricated special. Only 2 were built. The cranks were made for 2 V-4 cranks welded together. I was told by the OMC racing manager Paul Kalb that the first V6 engines with the welded cranks were run at only 4500 rpm for that race.

[Rotary John]

Don't think that was true. The V-4 @ 7500 would of had more HP than the V-6 at 4500

[lars strom]

Paul Kalb took over OMC racing-Belgium in the spring 1975. (Replaced Jim Wagner) I have no memory of Paul Kalb in Paris before 1975.
(Its still possible he was in Paris 1973)
I was standing in the Paris pit 1973 watching all 6 hours and the two Johnson V6 engines was flying around the long rough race course at river Seine.
Way ahead of everybody else..!!

My first Paris 6 Hours 1973 was a disaster..

http://svera.se/blogg/paris-6-hours/my-first-paris-6-hours-1973-was-a-disaster/

[STEVERINO]

Don't think that was true. The V-4 @ 7500 would of had more HP than the V-6 at 4500 I ran V4 Stingers for 5yrs and 2.0V6 crossflows for 2yrs John.In marathon races 6800rpm and sprint races not over 7200rpm.Both engines the same rpm.If Ziggy was still here John you could ring and ask him at what rpm did the welded cranks break hold that thought because that would be great if you could.

[Rotary John]

The welded cranks didn't break and they had the forged cranks for the next race. But 7000 RPM sound about right. As I recall, Paul Kolb wasn't involved in the race program in 1973. Mike Gaultney (sp) and me are the only ones left of the '73 race group.

[STEVERINO]

Paul Kalb took over OMC racing-Belgium in the spring 1975. (Replaced Jim Wagner) I have no memory of Paul Kalb in Paris before 1975.
(Its still possible he was in Paris 1973)
I was standing in the Paris pit 1973 watching all 6 hours and the two Johnson V6 engines was flying around the long rough race course at river Seine.
Way ahead of everybody else..!!

My first Paris 6 Hours 1973 was a disaster..

http://svera.se/blogg/paris-6-hours/my-first-paris-6-hours-1973-was-a-disaster/ The first time i heard Paul Kalbs name was at the 1974 Amsterdam 3 hr race he was over for that race and impressed that i drove a privately entered OMC outfit and finished in front of Jim Wagners factory outfits so his full time employment started in jan 1975 at the Earls Court boatshow in London to meet anyone connected to circuit boatracing.

[lars strom]

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[powerabout]

Johnny Sander drove the winning Johnson V-6 at Paris 1973. It was the first time the V-6 was raced and was a fabricated special. Only 2 were built. The cranks were made for 2 V-4 cranks welded together.
with webs at 90 degrees, how did that work?

[lars strom]

The Johnson V6 Stinger GP was raced for the first time in Paris 6 hours 1973 and won the race.
It was a 2 liter cross-flow carb model.


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The early 2 liter cross-flow powerhead for the Super Strangler/Stinger GP. Three 2 port carbs.

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[lars strom]

James Beard in Cardiff 1975.
Driving the #7 ON class Couger/Evinrude V6 SuperStrangler 2 liter cross-flow carb.

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[lars strom]

Peter Thornywork #5 Cougar/Johnson V6 Stinger GP 2 liter cross-flow.

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[lars strom]

Peter Thornywork #5 Cougar/Johnson V6 Stinger GP 2 liter cross-flow.

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[lars strom]

Chasewater, UK 1975

Peter Thorneywork winning the Chasewater Trophy in his #5 ON class Cougar/Johnson V6 2 liter cross-flow, carb.

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