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Lake X Kid

11-29-2019, 08:58 PM

Now we know Jimmie Johnson final year (on a full time basis) in Nascar is race seaosn 2020.
Lars will you share with us "why Hendrick Motorsport is struggling."
HM is still a well financed team, and money buys speed, so what is their Achilles heel?

Jimmie Johnson’s beautiful Marathon Coach with trailer came in this morning from the final 2019 NASCAR race in Miami.
Parked next to us at the Marathon Coach service center north of Tampa.
Got to know some interesting inside why Hendrick Motorsport is struggling..

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lars strom

11-29-2019, 08:58 PM

I am a big Trump supporter also and voted for him and going to do it again.
Dont care what people think about that.:)

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lars strom

11-30-2019, 11:01 AM

250 h.o. V6 e-tec.

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lars strom

11-30-2019, 05:35 PM

Now we know Jimmie Johnson final year (on a full time basis) in Nascar is race seaosn 2020.
Lars will you share with us "why Hendrick Motorsport is struggling."
HM is still a well financed team, and money buys speed, so what is their Achilles heel?

Well..first Toyota is spending a ton of money in NASCAR racing. Way more than GM and Ford.
Joe Gibbs are grabbing a lot of really good workers from Hendrick Motorsports by offering higher salary.
Hendrick Motorsport are replacing them with higher educated young people with NO racing experience.
GM is not helping out the way they use to do. I guess today's GM leaders are not interested in racing anymore

FUJIMO

11-30-2019, 06:10 PM

I am a big Trump supporter also and voted for him and going to do it again.
Dont care what people think about that.:)

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...I don't care what you think about Trump either Lars...That's why I'm going to vote for him again too! lol :thumbsup:

powerabout

11-30-2019, 08:31 PM

all the foreign S&F members can come over and vote too...thats allowed isnt it?

lars strom

11-30-2019, 09:24 PM

Does anyone know anything about this.
Maybe in Colorado??

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lars strom

12-01-2019, 04:59 AM

all the foreign S&F members can come over and vote too...thats allowed isnt it?

Well..I guess it’s possible in some states but not in Florida.

lars strom

12-01-2019, 08:09 AM

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Greg G

12-01-2019, 08:11 AM

Pretty cool..!! Nitra/Evinrude G2

Always found these hulls super interesting with the 6' beam and bottom design. Thanks for posting the shot.

lars strom

12-01-2019, 12:10 PM

Our “winter hangout” is now cleaned up and ready for the season.
The Red, White & Blue is flying high and the Country music is on.
Enjoy life.
❤️

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lars strom

12-01-2019, 03:11 PM

Andy Bullen #6 Burgess/Evinrude CCC V6 2.6 liter
Thanks Fast on Water.

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lars strom

12-01-2019, 03:43 PM

Did see a TV program from Bogota, Colombia and the Police is using Evinrude E-TEC G2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nva4DAJP1ks&fbclid=IwAR2-Gjh2I5aLPHWwiI8Q0ahmW-P5eEwg3XTMdMt2VeY1K3WJu7jibFF-Veo

lars strom

12-01-2019, 06:50 PM

Thanks Tim Hunter.

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lars strom

12-02-2019, 08:09 AM

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lars strom

12-02-2019, 09:37 AM

Thanks Clinton White.

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lars strom

12-02-2019, 09:43 AM

Thanks Dusty Foskey

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lars strom

12-02-2019, 01:18 PM

Thanks Clinton White.

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One more.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=453825&d=1575310689

lars strom

12-02-2019, 03:37 PM

Still a very popular class APBA SST 60.

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2us70

12-02-2019, 04:04 PM

You Sir are my kind of immigrant! You remind me of my good friend Miroslav "Mike" Lucik. Mike was a World Cup soccer player for the former Yugoslavia. If you ask him today his nationality he will respond in his thick Serbian accent that he is an American by God.

lars strom

12-03-2019, 05:31 AM

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RogerH

12-03-2019, 08:22 AM

The '80s+ V6 Loopers make a CCC look puny......about 4" taller

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lars strom

12-03-2019, 07:07 PM

sst-60

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lars strom

12-04-2019, 09:59 AM

E-tec v6 225h.o.

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lars strom

12-05-2019, 05:42 PM

The 2 liter ON World Champion Cees Van Der Velden #1 Velden Racing/Johnson V6 RS 2 liter 1975.
Thanks Fast On Water.

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lars strom

12-05-2019, 07:07 PM

lars strom

12-06-2019, 07:18 AM

F-3

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WaterZebra

12-06-2019, 10:44 AM

Paul Meyers (https://www.facebook.com/paul.meyers.7311?__tn__=%2Cd%2AF%2AF-R&eid=ARA1eOA8d2sPfaOmAAN79q9s4xSYN_I2CeRYeNwBfUBTJORkKF0RV9TNqP1GNnIORLgK9Nu9XEREkaSw&tn-str=%2AF)‎
Strictly Race Antique Boats & Motors

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(https://www.facebook.com/groups/912869829106646/?tn-str=%2AF)

Until safety cells were mandated for the SST 45 class, I never could understand why 45SS hydros didn't run in SST 45 races (closed course / clock start). Was it because of hull length / weight? Or was it because the stock outboarders would have to pay extra fees and mailings for mixing 2 catagories together? Or, to really stir the pot, why didn't the SST 45 drivers migrate to 45SS to keep using their hulls without safety cells? To keep stirring the pot and tipping it over, why didn't somebody in 45SS try to run in D Stock? I'm sure that Merc and OMC people on the tech committees took careful steps to assure that would not happen (voting).

John Schubert

12-06-2019, 03:28 PM

Until safety cells were mandated for the SST 45 class, I never could understand why 45SS hydros didn't run in SST 45 races (closed course / clock start). Was it because of hull length / weight? Or was it because the stock outboarders would have to pay extra fees and mailings for mixing 2 catagories together? Or, to really stir the pot, why didn't the SST 45 drivers migrate to 45SS to keep using their hulls without safety cells? To keep stirring the pot and tipping it over, why didn't somebody in 45SS try to run in D Stock? I'm sure that Merc and OMC people on the tech committees took careful steps to assure that would not happen (voting).
When I proposed the SST45 it started out for hydro use, but the Stock Outboard commission said it was too fast & if I wanted to go fast to continue running the OPC & pro stuff. Three years later the motor was approved but on tunnels

WaterZebra

12-06-2019, 06:23 PM

When I proposed the SST45 it started out for hydro use, but the Stock Outboard commission said it was too fast & if I wanted to go fast to continue running the OPC & pro stuff. Three years later the motor was approved but on tunnels

Too fast for the current D Stock owners? (LOL) I would like to have seen a good run off between a D Stock and 45SS hydro......…..:)

FUJIMO

12-06-2019, 07:08 PM

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/e4UAAOSwcqFdrKmI/s-l1600.jpg

Capt.Insane-o

12-06-2019, 07:17 PM

F-3

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This is/was another of the few perfect classes.

FUJIMO

12-06-2019, 07:38 PM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/58/9b/71589baccaf7d16c8a5ad477afd4cf12.jpg

lars strom

12-07-2019, 01:16 PM

lars strom

12-07-2019, 04:27 PM

uim f-3.

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Gordon02

12-07-2019, 10:12 PM

Lars, All, I ask this question with the deepest respect for you guys. You've spent a lifetime on the edge and competing at the highest level to promote the OMC Brand. Thank for all the photographic and video memories -

I've always been a huge Johnson/Evinrude fan having owned 26 different OMC outboards over the last 40 years. While they were extremely reliable, recreational outboards, OMC dealerships could not supply my Hi-Performance needs. Why didn't OMC offer alternatives to the 2.4L Bridgeports with factory CLE's or the even hotter 2.5L Mercs with factory Sportmaster gearcases?

My first Allison years ago was sold as the world's fastest bassboat - a XB2002. Unfortunately, OMC did not sell anything close to a 15" short-shaft, 350 pound V6 ProMax Mercury outboard with Sportmaster gearcase and 95+ mph right out of the box. Even in 2010, you could walk into any Hi-Po dealership and purchase a 280 horse or even a 311 horse, 10,000 rpm 2.5L V6 for drags. Why didn't OMC offer their own high performance options for us loyal customers? The old Stingers of the early/mid 1970's are the last of what I remember as factory competition machines. I don't know of any factory OMC ever made for 85+ operation out of the box.

Respectfully, Gordon

lars strom

12-08-2019, 09:16 AM

Gordon,
In the eighties Second Effort sold Limited Edition V6 and V8 outboards and later OMC supported engines for SST60 and SST45.
BRP is at this time not interested in performance outboard.

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lars strom

12-08-2019, 09:52 AM

sst60

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powerabout

12-08-2019, 11:03 AM

I have a funny feeling we know this driver pretty good at this thread.
Congratulations

CAMBELL JENKINS, A LOCAL RACER GETTING PODIUM FINISH (THIRD) IN THE SINGAPORE ASIA POWERBOAT CHAMPIONSHIP POLE POSITION - DAY 1 (6 DEC 2019).

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Provisional pole in morning then lost it in second session.
Then won one race, ended up 2nd overall.
I am well proud of myself, look at the competition...

lars strom

12-08-2019, 11:22 AM

The year is 1982.. Paris 6 Hours was run in a different format.
2 X 1,5 Hours and I did the race without a co-pilot.
I had a perfect day and won both 1.5 hour races in the white #90 F-3 Burgess powered by Evinrude CC..
(boat # 90)

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WaterZebra

12-08-2019, 12:38 PM

Gordon,
In the eighties Second Effort sold Limited Edition V6 and V8 outboards and later OMC supported engines for SST60 and SST45.
BRP is at this time not interested in performance outboard.

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Even 2nd Effort was not directly tied to OMC (off-spin at best). Jack Leek made it perfectly clear that OMC's racing was for product development and never really for consumer production . What's left of OMC's Hi-Perf effort resides with SeaWay Marine (Seattle WA). SeaWay also bought whatever was left of OMC's European racing inventory (Velden). I'm amazed to see that Mercury somehow continues today with some form of hi-perf stuff with their Verado and V8 Four Strokes. (Yes, Merc finally stepped up to a V8...……...30 years after OMC did). At least the Europeans have managed to adapt production 4 strokes to racing hulls and kept on racing whereas the Americans flat out quit.

lars strom

12-08-2019, 02:13 PM

Nja..not 100% sure how SE was connected to OMC but when I raced F1-V8 1983/84 and 85 all service and parts was with SE. We could not buy any F1-V8 racing stuff from OMC, only direct from SE. As a dealer we got the Limited Edition V6 and V8 outboards from OMC..not SE.

lars strom

12-08-2019, 02:16 PM

UIM E-class offshore. Argo OMC 3 cyl.

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lars strom

12-08-2019, 02:36 PM

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lars strom

12-08-2019, 02:40 PM

http://www.bermudasun.bm/Content/BUSINESS/Columns/Article/Round-the-Island-race-day-power/72/887/69197

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lars strom

12-08-2019, 07:27 PM

My brother Lennart in his #3 UIM SE class Sjoberg/Evinrude 75.
I like his sponsor on the side of the boat.
I think the year is 1981.
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lars strom

12-08-2019, 08:10 PM

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Lake X Kid

12-08-2019, 08:40 PM

lars strom

12-08-2019, 08:46 PM

The equalizer race (identical engines & boats) to determine the Champion driver among multiple race Champions.

This format should be periodically revisited every 3 to 5 years for bragging rights. A nice opportunity for the different champion drivers in multiple classes/sanctions to showcase their skills. Sportsmanship against each other in a friendly competition.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454189&d=1575854986

I complete story with pictures/video and result here..

http://svera.se/blogg/the-race-of-champions-at-the-miami-marine-stadium-1975-by-bill-muncey/?fbclid=IwAR34DuA_d5pXg9r1Hb_pEJrju200ne2puDCFBESv5CLqMUB0H_gw0yk_MSM

lars strom

12-09-2019, 08:56 AM

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WaterZebra

12-09-2019, 10:25 AM

I complete story with pictures/video and result here..

http://svera.se/blogg/the-race-of-champions-at-the-miami-marine-stadium-1975-by-bill-muncey/?fbclid=IwAR34DuA_d5pXg9r1Hb_pEJrju200ne2puDCFBESv5CLqMUB0H_gw0yk_MSM

How was Seebold selected to make all of the "generic" hulls? Who funded the whole thing?:smiletest:

lars strom

12-09-2019, 01:55 PM

Seebold built the boats and made a profit.
The sponsors was Evinrude Motors, ABC Sports, Champion Spark plugs and Bill Muncey.
Only World Champions that year was invited.
A pretty unique race.
Watch the video.

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https://youtu.be/chLrqmuak7g

lars strom

12-09-2019, 02:33 PM

My dream to be part of the Race of Champions at the MIAMI MARINE STADIUM 1975.

When I was back in Sweden late August 1975 after the big race in Italy I received a letter from USA.
I could not wait to open it, and it was from Bill Muncey and an entry form for the Race of Champions
at the Miami Marine Stadium.
If I remember right there was 15 SE Cats rigged with Evinrude 75 hp engines.
The Billy Seebold built boats was prepared the same way and the plan was to find the best driver in the world.
This was it for me, my big dream to travel to the United States and Race..!!
I filled out the entry form with my racing resume and photos.
I was 100% sure to be part of this dream race but after a few weeks I received a new letter from
Bill Muncey´s race of Champions, with disastrous news.
I did not qualify, you had to be a World Champ and there was no World Championship race in the
UIM – SE class back then.
I was now 3 times European/Continental Champion, but not good enough.
I asked Evinrude in Sweden and OMC to help me and they tried, but the answer was still no.
At that time I felt like the whole world was coming to an end, but life went on…………..
..and the Race…without me..!!
There must be a way for me to make $10,000.00 in boat racing..Well..it happen a year later..!!

WaterZebra

12-09-2019, 03:24 PM

lars strom

12-09-2019, 03:44 PM

1972 Johnson Catalog Cover

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lars strom

12-09-2019, 04:43 PM

Hard to say what's the best part of this photo... The striking colors? The great composition? The fire-engine red Evinrude? The ICEBERG? ❄
Tyronne Normore / Normore Enterprises, Evinrude dealer in Labrador, Canada.

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2us70

12-09-2019, 06:19 PM

I suspect that there were several SE drivers around then that might changed the results of that race
Seebold built the boats and made a profit.
The sponsors was Evinrude Motors, ABC Sports, Champion Spark plugs and Bill Muncey.
Only World Champions that year was invited.
A pretty unique race.
Watch the video.

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https://youtu.be/chLrqmuak7g

lars strom

12-09-2019, 07:38 PM

I suspect that there were several SE drivers around then that might changed the results of that race

Well..Geoff Briggs, Roger Jenkins and Angelo Vassena was very good SE drivers in the Miami race.

WaterZebra

12-09-2019, 07:40 PM

1972 Johnson Catalog Cover

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I wonder how she kept the motor up straight for the foto (LOL)?

Instigator

12-09-2019, 07:41 PM

That sucks Lars!
So sorry to hear that.

I remember that race well.
Great idea and marketing but tough to pull off.

I was in high school then but also knew the OOC guys would/should rule. Not really fair to stick an unlimited or drag guy in their for a weekend.
Was still way cool to see.

Based off the IROC car race series that were also way cool.

My dream to be part of the Race of Champions at the MIAMI MARINE STADIUM 1975.

When I was back in Sweden late August 1975 after the big race in Italy I received a letter from USA.
I could not wait to open it, and it was from Bill Muncey and an entry form for the Race of Champions
at the Miami Marine Stadium.
If I remember right there was 15 SE Cats rigged with Evinrude 75 hp engines.
The Billy Seebold built boats was prepared the same way and the plan was to find the best driver in the world.
This was it for me, my big dream to travel to the United States and Race..!!
I filled out the entry form with my racing resume and photos.
I was 100% sure to be part of this dream race but after a few weeks I received a new letter from
Bill Muncey´s race of Champions, with disastrous news.
I did not qualify, you had to be a World Champ and there was no World Championship race in the
UIM – SE class back then.
I was now 3 times European/Continental Champion, but not good enough.
I asked Evinrude in Sweden and OMC to help me and they tried, but the answer was still no.
At that time I felt like the whole world was coming to an end, but life went on…………..
..and the Race…without me..!!
There must be a way for me to make $10,000.00 in boat racing..Well..it happen a year later..!!

lars strom

12-09-2019, 08:25 PM

That sucks Lars!
So sorry to hear that.
I remember that race well.

Well..thanks.:cheers:
I talked both to Roger Jenkins and Angelo Vassena after the race and it was more or less impossible to pass anyone. The start was everything..!!
Still an interesting race and for me a lot of money to win.

lars strom

12-10-2019, 09:11 AM

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WaterZebra

12-10-2019, 11:12 AM

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Who were all the drivers? So who became the "baseline" (heaviest) for weight? I assume a clock start was used to test driver skills vs LeMans start (drag race). What eventually happened to these OE/SE boat and motor set ups? I noticed the article is mis-titled? Identical engines, props? Pretty hard to do? Power trim or fixed pin?

lars strom

12-10-2019, 11:39 AM

Well WaterZebra,

Of course they used power-trim and if you watch this video to the end you have the answers to all your questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=557&v=chLrqmuak7g&feature=emb_logo

peterse90

12-10-2019, 01:21 PM

What eventually happened to these OE/SE boat and motor set ups?

I think Jimbo ended up with one and ran it in MOD50 for awhile.

I had a Seebold SE boat but mine was not one the ROC hulls, mine had very different sponson bottoms.

Maybe a few of these became the Jeff Brown fully-rigged packages that were available.

peterse90

12-10-2019, 03:15 PM

I think Jimbo ended up with one and ran it in MOD50 for awhile.

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Welland, Ontario 1977. Jimbo in a Seebold MOD50 with 'Velden' looking rear cowl.

Watermark

12-10-2019, 03:31 PM

I think Jimbo ended up with one and ran it in MOD50 for awhile.

I had a Seebold SE boat but mine was not one the ROC hulls, mine had very different sponson bottoms.
Maybe a few of these became the Jeff Brown fully-rigged packages that were available.
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Photo Credit Bill Jennings

The Mod U and Mod 50 classes ran together that day, scored separately. Jimbo and I won our respective races, crossing the finish line together, but obviously a lap to two apart. Great shot! Mercury and OMC both had something to smile about. :smiletest:

WaterZebra

12-10-2019, 03:43 PM

I think Jimbo ended up with one and ran it in MOD50 for awhile.

I had a Seebold SE boat but mine was not one the ROC hulls, mine had very different sponson bottoms.

Maybe a few of these became the Jeff Brown fully-rigged packages that were available.

Yes...…..that would explain the full page ads that ran in the APBA Propeller, Powerboat and Popular Mechanics issues after the ROC race. It looks like Jack Leek did the run-ups for the engines. Not sure why this was done with props instead of test wheels. Did anybody make test wheels for SE engines? I was lucky enuf to have Bob Hering make my test wheel for my V6 / SSM Mercs...……..:)

peterse90

12-10-2019, 03:59 PM

Maybe a few of these became the Jeff Brown fully-rigged packages that were available.

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lars strom

12-10-2019, 05:57 PM

Two of the very best boat racers ever.. Bill Muncey and Angelo Vassena in Miami 1975.

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Instigator

12-10-2019, 06:20 PM

I have a near identical shot with Bill and Jimbo chatting in the same seats.

Two of the very best boat racers ever.. Bill Muncey and Angelo Vassena in Miami 1975.

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OMCAllTheWay

12-10-2019, 07:05 PM

What eventually happened to these OE/SE boat and motor set ups?

One of the boats with motor was in the warehouse at the Ralph Evinrude Test Center for years.

WaterZebra

12-10-2019, 07:47 PM

I have a near identical shot with Bill and Jimbo chatting in the same seats.

Bill and Jimbo were involved in the last era of pre-safety cockpit racing. Bill was killed in Mexico (blow over) while Jimbo escaped near death by stuffing a non-safety cell boat at Sacramento CA in 1985.:(

lars strom

12-10-2019, 08:40 PM

One of the boats with motor was in the warehouse at the Ralph Evinrude Test Center for years.

Thanks and welcome to this thread OMCAllTheWay..I love your log in name.:cheers:

Instigator

12-10-2019, 08:52 PM

I remember both very well.

I remember Bill saying he didn’t like driving the newer cabovers either.
He was one of my hero’s and probably the best spokesman for boat racing of all time.

I was in shock when he was killed.
To me he was larger than life and would live forever.

Was equally distraught over Jimbos accident too for the exact same reasons.

Neither one have ever been replaced.

Bill and Jimbo were involved in the last era of pre-safety cockpit racing. Bill was killed in Mexico (blow over) while Jimbo escaped near death by stuffing a non-safety cell boat at Sacramento CA in 1985.:(

lars strom

12-10-2019, 09:01 PM

Like new for sale by Javier Reveron.

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Greg G

12-10-2019, 09:12 PM

Like new for sale by Javier Reveron.

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Amazing

powerabout

12-10-2019, 11:00 PM

Hi Lars
Do you know where the uim class letters came from oe on oz etc?

lars strom

12-11-2019, 09:27 AM

Hi Lars
Do you know where the uim class letters came from oe on oz etc?

Well..not sure what you mean but for example..UIM SE - S was for sport (some rules for the boat and production outboards) and E for the cc between 700 to max 850cc..UIM OE was O for no rules and E for 700 to max 850 cc.
Same with UIM SD and OD..but less cc.
Same with UIM OA-OB-OC etc..all Konig hydros back then with no rules only minimum and maximum cc.
UIM ON was no rules boat or engine but between 1500 to max 2000cc
UIM OZ was no rules and unlimited everything.
Must be outboards in all the classes above.

WaterZebra

12-11-2019, 11:15 AM

Well..not sure what you mean but for example..UIM SE - S was for sport (some rules for the boat and production outboards) and E for the cc between 700 to max 850cc..UIM OE was O for no rules and E for 700 to max 850 cc.
Same with UIM SD and OD..but less cc.
Same with UIM OA-OB-OC etc..all Konig hydros back then with no rules only minimum and maximum cc.
UIM ON was no rules boat or engine but between 1500 to max 2000cc
UIM OZ was no rules and unlimited everything.
Must be outboards in all the classes above.

What were UIM production criteria in terms of units built?

The APBA had this laughable rule regarding outboards that they had to be capable of being bodily (human) lifted from the transom. (LOL) Trying do that with a 400+ lb 4 stroke these days? Only thing I saw that came close to this rule was 2 people with a pipe and lifting eye taking V6 powerheads off. I never saw anybody trying to do this with OMC V8s either.

Only the Mod U APBA class essentially allowed you to experiment and tinker with stuff. Even the MOD and Formula classes had some form of constraints. I used some classes of racing to "test" things because of race site rescue personnel being handy (I couldn't afford to buy a "Lake X") and even offered to sacrifice my points just to run and collect data. When my co-racers couldn't stop complaining about even those concessions, it started to become easier to stay home and start selling equipment.

The engine claimer rule was a great idea for the stock classes because I was amazed at the great lengths some racers went to stretch the production engine technical rules.

TimK

12-11-2019, 02:40 PM

Like new for sale by Javier Reveron.

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Hello Lars,
I'm interested. Call or text two four 8 - seven seven 0 - six eight nine 7. Thanks!
Tim

oldschoolltv

12-11-2019, 02:48 PM

Always wanted to put a 45ss on a fliver boat :)454350

lars strom

12-11-2019, 04:33 PM

Hello Lars,
I'm interested. Call or text two four 8 - seven seven 0 - six eight nine 7. Thanks!
Tim

Hi Tim,
I did see the Johnson SST-45 for sale on FaceBook and I think this link is to the seller.
https://www.facebook.com/javier.reveron.3

lars strom

12-11-2019, 06:21 PM

What were UIM production criteria in terms of units built?

Thats a very good question..if I remember right the outboard factories was suppose to build 1,200 units of a specific outboard model to be approved by UIM as a standard production outboard legal in the SE class.
Back around 1970 both Konig and Carniti built the SE class outboards below but we all know at that time they where not even close to 1,200 units.
UIM change the rule and the factory must promise to build 1,200 units over a few years.
OMC started doing the same thing 1973 with the 65SS..Merc followed by the 650 XS.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454370&d=1576106292
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454371&d=1576106303

lars strom

12-11-2019, 06:33 PM

Hello Lars,
I'm interested. Call or text two four 8 - seven seven 0 - six eight nine 7. Thanks!
Tim

Hi again Tim..
I guess the seller have three new SST-45. Please contact him direct if you are interested.
Not sure how this Whatsapp works.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454382&d=1576107125

manuelr_ve

12-11-2019, 06:34 PM

Hi thank Lars. My WhatsApp +584249647192

lars strom

12-11-2019, 06:51 PM

Dennis and Dewey Berghauer at Havasu, 1967. It would have been an easy win for them, but they ran out of gas.
Thanks Ron Hill for the picture.

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powerabout

12-11-2019, 07:22 PM

lars strom

12-11-2019, 07:24 PM

was OZ always there but not used till the V8 or it came to fruition when OMC needed that class?

Well..OMC raced the OZ class way before the F1-V8..The Rotary and the CCC was OZ class engines...and the Merc T4.

powerabout

12-11-2019, 08:24 PM

Well..OMC raced the OZ class way before the F1-V8..The Rotary and the CCC was OZ class engines...and the Merc T4.
of course, thanks for that
So ON and OZ came about at the same time?

Mark75H

12-11-2019, 08:49 PM

Thanks but I meant where did the letters come from, I guess just made them up?

was OZ always there but not used till the V8 or it came to fruition when OMC needed that class?

Yeah, the last group of letters were just made up by UIM, supposedly to avoid confusion (make class ID clearer)

A, B, C, D, E, F, G, I, J, N are basically sequential from 250cc to 2,000cc (250, 350, 500, 850, 1000, 1200, 1500, 1700, 2000)

ON was around for a while before OZ

lars strom

12-11-2019, 08:50 PM

of course, thanks for that
So ON and OZ came about at the same time?

Well..in late sixties there was only the the smaller cc in line 6 Merc and OMC V4..not even ON..more like OI..over 1,000 cc but less than 1,500 cc.
My guess is ON and OZ was in the UIM rule book about the same time..maybe ON first.
The OMC Rotary won the UIM OZ class 1973 in Windermere,UK.

http://svera.se/blogg/omc-and-the-rotary-outboard-took-the-overall-win-in-windermere-1973/

(http://svera.se/blogg/omc-and-the-rotary-outboard-took-the-overall-win-in-windermere-1973/)
(http://svera.se/blogg/omc-and-the-rotary-outboard-took-the-overall-win-in-windermere-1973/)https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454385&d=1576115564

(http://svera.se/blogg/omc-and-the-rotary-outboard-took-the-overall-win-in-windermere-1973/)

lars strom

12-12-2019, 06:19 AM

Twister Cat Evinrude E-TEC V4H.O.

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lars strom

12-12-2019, 09:48 AM

Berghauer brothers drove this Schultz Cat- twin X-115 at Parker, 1968.

Thanks Ron Hill for the picture.

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2us70

12-12-2019, 11:26 AM

I always associated the Berghauer brothers with Mercury?

lars strom

12-12-2019, 12:33 PM

The new Johnson 2 cylinder.

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lars strom

12-12-2019, 05:00 PM

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lars strom

12-12-2019, 07:56 PM

Martini racing.

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lars strom

12-12-2019, 09:11 PM

...Evinrude for Christmas. :thumbsup:

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lars strom

12-13-2019, 10:16 AM

Pretty cool..
Evinrude 225H.O. racing today.

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Ronster43

12-13-2019, 12:28 PM

I think Jimbo ended up with one and ran it in MOD50 for awhile.

I had a Seebold SE boat but mine was not one the ROC hulls, mine had very different sponson bottoms.

Maybe a few of these became the Jeff Brown fully-rigged packages that were available.

A few definitely stayed in Florida and ran SE, but not very successfully. Too much sponson dihedral...wouldn't turn.

lars strom

12-13-2019, 08:52 PM

Thanks Tim.

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powerabout

12-13-2019, 10:21 PM

How about raft of formula E, T 750/850 photos.
Omc dominated that class

lars strom

12-14-2019, 10:04 AM

1973 Evinrude 65 HP.

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lars strom

12-15-2019, 06:44 AM

Boat parade party in Lauderdale by the sea tonight with friends.

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WaterZebra

12-15-2019, 11:21 AM

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Why didn't OMC try to tie up the horsepower race with Mercury's 80 hp 4 cylinder engine? I know the Mod 50 engine was capable of hp well beyond 80 hp?

2us70

12-15-2019, 11:40 AM

My daughter and son inlaw were on one of the boats in the parade. They have a good friend in the promotion business and usually get invited to participate.
Boat parade party in Lauderdale by the sea tonight with friends.

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Instigator

12-15-2019, 05:31 PM

I heard a 100+ in race tune. (105 - 115 maybe???)

Why didn't OMC try to tie up the horsepower race with Mercury's 80 hp 4 cylinder engine? I know the Mod 50 engine was capable of hp well beyond 80 hp?

lars strom

12-15-2019, 06:52 PM

Why didn't OMC try to tie up the horsepower race with Mercury's 80 hp 4 cylinder engine? I know the Mod 50 engine was capable of hp well beyond 80 hp?

Well..the OMC 3 cylinders killed the Merc 4 cylinder 80/85HP. In the UIM E and H offshore class we use the same boats with different power.
The E class was much faster than the H with the heavier low power Merc 4 cyl. 80/85 HP.
This is me E-99 flying by a Merc 80 in the H class with my Evinrude 65..!!..1973.
Must H class racers change to E class.. some used the Merc 3 cyl but most drivers used the better and faster OMC 3 cyl.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454541&d=1507570026

lars strom

12-15-2019, 08:58 PM

:)

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powerabout

12-16-2019, 11:48 AM

31m is about 120hp runs to over 9000, not much keeps up with that at 850cc

lars strom

12-16-2019, 12:18 PM

Nice.

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lars strom

12-16-2019, 03:27 PM

Thanks Ron Hill.
2 X Evinrude V4 Starflite SS

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lars strom

12-16-2019, 04:44 PM

I used Simpson racing equipment for many years.
R. I. P. my friend.

Racing Safety Pioneer Bill Simpson Dies at Age 79 After Suffering Stroke

https://tobychristie.com/2019/12/16/racing-safety-pioneer-bill-simpson-dies-at-age-79-after-suffering-stroke/?fbclid=IwAR0iTVlpah6Qbay6a5St971PDIaiWoPQYlKio3QlxcJ2JCQyyGul_XfQBVk

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(https://tobychristie.com/2019/12/16/racing-safety-pioneer-bill-simpson-dies-at-age-79-after-suffering-stroke/?fbclid=IwAR0iTVlpah6Qbay6a5St971PDIaiWoPQYlKio3QlxcJ2JCQyyGul_XfQBVk)

Bob V

12-16-2019, 06:04 PM

Lars - That is a great picture. I could not help myself, I had to blow it up...:eek:

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powerabout

12-16-2019, 10:17 PM

Stepped hull too!

lars strom

12-17-2019, 11:02 AM

Thanks Jorgen Jorgenson.

With this old card from my colleagues in Brugge, Belgium, I bring you my best wishes for a Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year !

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lars strom

12-17-2019, 09:32 PM

Brigitte Bardot - Life Magazine 1961 :)
Oh yeh, there's a Johnson Outboard in the photo!!

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lars strom

12-18-2019, 08:50 AM

Looks like an early Burgess-Milesmaster with Evinrude CC

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lars strom

12-18-2019, 09:15 AM

The Parker 9 hours overall winner 1970.
Drivers: Allan Stinson & Jerry Walen
DeSilva / 2 X Evinrude V4 Starflite SS
Thanks Ron Hill.

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2us70

12-18-2019, 11:48 AM

What was the story on that boat? It won Parker but never showed up anywhere in the East?

lars strom

12-18-2019, 12:51 PM

Well..the Overall win in Parker 1970 was maybe the only purpose for the winning boat..:)

lars strom

12-18-2019, 01:19 PM

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Watermark

12-18-2019, 01:32 PM

Alan Stinson and Jerry Wallin

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lars strom

12-18-2019, 02:40 PM

Ron Hill in his Ron Jones 20ft. Powered by 2 X Evinrude V4 Starflite SS.

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lars strom

12-18-2019, 07:43 PM

Red Twins!

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lars strom

12-19-2019, 08:06 AM

Yes, Jonas Andersson of Sweden took Pole for the final UIM F1 race and his chance for winning the World title is extremely good.

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Greg G

12-19-2019, 08:13 AM

The Parker 9 hours overall winner 1970.
Drivers: Allan Stinson & Jerry Walen
DeSilva / 2 X Evinrude V4 Starflite SS
Thanks Ron Hill.

Fantastic. Thanks!

Greg G

12-19-2019, 08:30 AM

Gerry Walin ................ and OMC

keith scotton

12-19-2019, 09:08 AM

Do You have a picture of the front or rear end of the above truck or trailer with out the people.
Enjoy Life Keith

lars strom

12-19-2019, 09:37 AM

?? not sure what you mean Keith.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carina is heading for the Zumba class and of course the outfit must match the Smart car.
I guess more new stuff is coming onboard our bus and less space for me..:)

LA Fitness Port Saint Lucie - St. Lucie West Blvd.

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keith scotton

12-19-2019, 11:26 AM

Post 5896 has people in front of box truck or trailer with F1 v8 motor stickers on it.

lars strom

12-19-2019, 11:32 AM

Thanks Jorgen Jorgenson.

With this old card from my colleagues in Brugge, Belgium, I bring you my best wishes for a Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year !

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454670&d=1576598556

Well Keith Scotton, its a 30 year old Christmas Card from OMC racing in Europe. Not sure if there is anymore info today.

lars strom

12-19-2019, 11:37 AM

SST-100

# 21 Mike Hood at Kankakee, Illinois.

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WaterZebra

12-19-2019, 12:06 PM

SST-100

# 21 Mike Hood at Kankakee, Illinois.

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Did the SST-100 use the same mid section and gearcase as the V8 did? I considered buying an SST-100 at one time and dumping the engine and swapping it for a V6 to revive the era of the CCC / RS programs but the bottom line was just too costly.

powerabout

12-19-2019, 12:15 PM

Did the SST-100 use the same mid section and gearcase as the V8 did? I considered buying an SST-100 at one time and dumping the engine and swapping it for a V6 to revive the era of the CCC / RS programs but the bottom line was just too costly.
The F1 V8 has a custom bolt pattern and so is the water and exhaust locations so the F1 V8 mid only fits the F1 V8
The SST100 is a slightly different casting and uses an adapter plate for the v4 and there is another plate for the V6

lars strom

12-19-2019, 12:59 PM

Johnson 115 GT

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lars strom

12-19-2019, 07:14 PM

Jack Aylsworth (https://www.facebook.com/jack.aylsworth.9?fref=gs&__tn__=%2Cd%2AF%2AF-R&eid=ARBG1RenT4Kk2cBeCa0JTlJ1gxC9VKKXcSLz1Egqo4gZ1XkCo5lr6xZLvSxi1Xlj2P7AMsgypxM6l3EJ&tn-str=%2AF&dti=2043017495976607&hc_location=group_dialog)‎
Evinrude - Johnson outboards. Facts, history, racing and future. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2043017495976607/?ref=gs&tn-str=%2AF&fref=gs&dti=2043017495976607&hc_location=group_dialog)

Boat stunt for an Ed McMahon TV special sponsored by Johnson and filmed at Cypress Gardens. What could possibly go wrong!!

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lars strom

12-19-2019, 07:36 PM

Two or maybe three rotary powered race boats. I think this is in Europe somewhere. I can see the OMC Belgium's racing service van in the background.

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lars strom

12-20-2019, 07:43 AM

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lars strom

12-20-2019, 10:34 AM

My Christmas Card from 1981..(Happy Holidays)
#1 Burgess/AKAI/Evinrude CC

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FUJIMO

12-20-2019, 10:45 AM

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15726506_1316252751761001_4280557843084417536_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQnS5onyH2i-7o0hDlZQHnNDXP1JqTwqr3GOCsLM2PGCKk-9pMed649khYYL534tfCbqmx4uD2oMsWhp1Rikvi1D&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=ca7990d5d72f6343f2546f2315ecf0ee&oe=5EA8B6C7

lars strom

12-20-2019, 11:07 AM

Thanks Fujimo..kind of like this one better..:)

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STEVERINO

12-20-2019, 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=lars strom;3179574]Two or maybe three rotary powered race boats. I think this is in Europe somewhere. I can see the OMC Belgium's racing service van in the background.

454786[/QUOTE. The guy bending down is Ward Cox the OMC gearcase tech and the guy in the boat could be Eric from OMC Brugge.

lars strom

12-20-2019, 12:57 PM

Thanks Fast On Water.

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lars strom

12-20-2019, 03:20 PM

Fishing is where the money is in the marine business.
Always been so..!!
Yamaha is the largest seller of outboards around the world and never been involved in boat racing.
Mercury is the only outboard factory selling some racing outboards.

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lars strom

12-20-2019, 04:33 PM

The new 2020 Evinrude 115 HP 3 cylinder production engine is going racing overseas in the UIM Offshore B class.
Thanks Sue Cosgrave

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(https://www.facebook.com/sue.woodhouse.50?__tn__=%2Cd%2AF%2AF-R&eid=ARAqR4H7lMWp2_EwOUP-ACRjHPpMEEsPbsxRzdVI3cM6ZBfvlVnamyBqGrjv340orY12HgQ6Y8VFeFzE&tn-str=%2AF)

WaterZebra

12-20-2019, 09:11 PM

Two or maybe three rotary powered race boats. I think this is in Europe somewhere. I can see the OMC Belgium's racing service van in the background.

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We really vectored off on rotaries on the OFF thread. Many thanks to RJ on where all these beasts have ended up and what ones might be in running shape. I have to say that the photo posted above sure portrays one glaring goof-up OMC made with these prototypes. The paint scheme and graphics on these engines look like an artwork project of a 4th grader. All that $$$ spent on R&D and then somebody decided to spend 10 bucks on the paint scheme and text graphics. Talk about ugly! "Wankel" may have been interpreted as some species of bird or something by race spectators? Nobody even thought about a wankel rotor graphic? Where was the traditional Johnson "Sea-Horse" or Evinrude "E"? One thing for sure, if these prototypes had been under the watchful eyes of E.C at Mercury he would have had a fit with the art & styling department. I also think that OMC was far too secretive with the rotary program. As I kid, the only way I came to know about the rotaries was seeing a picture of one in the OMC product sales catalog at boat shows or OMC dealers. These engines appeared a few years before Mazda unveiled their RX7 rotary.

lars strom

12-20-2019, 09:30 PM

We really vectored off on rotaries on the OFF thread. Many thanks to RJ on where all these beasts have ended up and what ones might be in running shape. I have to say that the photo posted above sure portrays one glaring goof-up OMC made with these prototypes. The paint scheme and graphics on these engines look like an artwork project of a 4th grader. All that $$$ spent on R&D and then somebody decided to spend 10 bucks on the paint scheme and text graphics. Talk about ugly! "Wankel" may have been interpreted as some species of bird or something by race spectators? Nobody even thought about a wankel rotor graphic? Where was the traditional Johnson "Sea-Horse" or Evinrude "E"? One thing for sure, if these prototypes had been under the watchful eyes of E.C at Mercury he would have had a fit with the art & styling department. I also think that OMC was far too secretive with the rotary program. As I kid, the only way I came to know about the rotaries was seeing a picture of one in the OMC product sales catalog at boat shows or OMC dealers. These engines appeared a few years before Mazda unveiled their RX7 rotary.

Well WaterZebra..
I have read your posts here at my thread many times and none of them are positive.
If you dont like the OMC history dont click in here...!!
I races the Paris 6 hours with the two rotaries 1974 and that was a great experience. I never forget the speed and sound.
OMC back then was doing great. Johnson outboards was the best selling outboard in the world and Evinrude was "First in Outboards"
Well..way later OMC run in to problems for bad management..but I did extremely good as a dealer and racer for OMC.
Enjoy life..you never now when your time is up..

Very happy with our Paris 6 Hour race 1974

http://svera.se/blogg/paris-6-hours/very-happy-with-our-paris-6-hour-race-1974/

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454852&d=1576895289

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454853&d=1576895302

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454851&d=1517323667

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454917&d=1577101036

lars strom

12-20-2019, 09:54 PM

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99fxst99

12-20-2019, 10:22 PM

I for one totally enjoy the history. As a kid I was a huge Evinrude/ OMC fan. Are there any running rotaries left?

Greg G

12-20-2019, 11:41 PM

I have to say that the photo posted above sure portrays one glaring goof-up OMC made with these prototypes. The paint scheme and graphics on these engines look like an artwork project of a 4th grader. All that $$ spent on R&D and then somebody decided to spend 10 bucks on the paint scheme and text graphics.

A thread like this that has tremendous historical value and you decide to talk about "artwork"? Move along friend of low posts :(

Instigator

12-21-2019, 09:03 AM

I still have the Mechanics Illustrated magazine issue from the ‘70’s where they announced the new rotary w/Jimbo and even allowed their editor to drive it.

Also remember seeing plenty of race coverage of them cuz I had all the pics on my bedroom walls.

Man to have some of them back....

Also remember riding my 20” Schwinn Stingray the 10 mls to our local Johnson dealer to beg for posters, stickers and patches.
One famous poster they gave me was the one w/the rotary leading the V-6 CCC, leading the V-4 Stinger GP.

Mark75H

12-21-2019, 10:19 AM

These engines appeared a few years before Mazda unveiled their RX7 rotary.

But Mazda had been putting rotaries in their Cosmo models since 1965.

lars strom

12-21-2019, 10:24 AM

Lars Strom (https://www.facebook.com/lars.strom.14?fref=gs&__tn__=%2CdlC-R-R&eid=ARCs9HaU2CexnslhhWzrXNYCplM2KKSETJRKo5HV6Iz5RQizv_im4FwaN5Oh0bCzfZrLAunVZyrN324B&hc_ref=ARRcYMKH2wU97YcTbQxfcK4wYo45MfAAAVhhkE11_rnJsUgEEs1_7IjPUl6l2u32Q0U&ref=nf_target&dti=2043017495976607&hc_location=group) is at Lauderdale Marina (https://www.facebook.com/TheLauderdaleMarina/?ref=nf_target&__tn__=%2CdkC-R-R&eid=ARDaE_Wj4XciIyiFa2pSxXOTieyIe_zT0lF-lheAG4fx7612n5diMDXVaFTgHh6rvbm7d-LG97xBd4rO&hc_ref=ARRcYMKH2wU97YcTbQxfcK4wYo45MfAAAVhhkE11_rnJsUgEEs1_7IjPUl6l2u32Q0U&fref=gs&dti=2043017495976607&hc_location=group).

From the gas-dock at Lauderdale Marina.
Picture by me.

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2us70

12-21-2019, 11:28 AM

The sound of an open exhaust rotary is an acquired taste. In the mid 1970s a pilot in Miami built a twin rotary engine experimental racing plane at an airport where I worked. Every time he flew it the airport was hit with noise complaints from the neighbors. The aircraft had cooling problems with the rear motor and never was raced. Didn't matter which motor he put in the back it overheated and we would have to go out and stand-by while he landed it. Even on one engine it was obnoxious.

Instigator

12-21-2019, 11:47 AM

Agreed.

In early IMSA road racing days they had a race in Columbus and the Mazda rotaries we’re dominating the GTU class and they ran mufflers when no on else did.
Even w/the mufflers they were ear piercing loud!
Particularly at certain RPMs.

The sound of an open exhaust rotary is an acquired taste. In the mid 1970s a pilot in Miami built a twin rotary engine experimental racing plane at an airport where I worked. Every time he flew it the airport was hit with noise complaints from the neighbors. The aircraft had cooling problems with the rear motor and never was raced. Didn't matter which motor he put in the back it overheated and we would have to go out and stand-by while he landed it. Even on one engine it was obnoxious.

lars strom

12-21-2019, 07:37 PM

From the dock at Shooters in Fort Lauderdale.
Picture by me.

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lars strom

12-21-2019, 10:03 PM

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lars strom

12-22-2019, 09:32 PM

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lars strom

12-23-2019, 11:47 AM

Paris 6 hours 1974.
Me in boat #48 and Angelo Vassena in boat #71

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lars strom

12-23-2019, 02:29 PM

I races the Paris 6 hours with the two rotaries 1974 and that was a great experience. I never forget the speed and sound.
OMC back then was doing great. Johnson outboards was the best selling outboard in the world and Evinrude was "First in Outboards"
Well..way later OMC run in to problems for bad management..but I did extremely good as a dealer and racer for OMC.

Very happy with our Paris 6 Hour race 1974

http://svera.se/blogg/paris-6-hours/very-happy-with-our-paris-6-hour-race-1974/

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454852&d=1576895289

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454853&d=1576895302

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454851&d=1517323667

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454917&d=1577101036

Well I have read the Paris 6 Hours Entry list above over and over again..
I cant find Jackie Wilson..I guess Jackie never raced together with the powerful OMC Rotary racing outboards in Paris 1974...??
That's maybe why he always are so upset about the OMC racing rotaries..:):)
This is me (first picture) a few minutes before the start of the greatest race ever in Europe.
I got a great start..second picture. (boat #48)

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454918&d=1577129166

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=454919&d=1577129234

lars strom

12-23-2019, 05:31 PM

A few more small pictures from Paris 1974.

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lars strom

12-23-2019, 07:15 PM

Paris 6 Hours 1974.
Jimbo McConnell in the #03 Scotti-Craft/Evinrude Rotary.

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lars strom

12-24-2019, 08:49 AM

https://youtu.be/ksujZDeB8pI

lars strom

12-24-2019, 09:23 AM

Merry Christmas.

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lars strom

12-24-2019, 01:46 PM

Carina's Christmas Eve Zumba outfit.

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lars strom

12-24-2019, 05:09 PM

Yes..Thanks Evinrude Australia.

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lars strom

12-25-2019, 10:59 AM

Merry Christmas from Santa and his helpers on Biscayne Bay in the 1970s.

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lars strom

12-25-2019, 03:41 PM

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lars strom

12-25-2019, 06:21 PM

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lars strom

12-25-2019, 06:35 PM

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lars strom

12-26-2019, 07:41 AM

River racer, Montréal 1984

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lars strom

12-26-2019, 12:42 PM

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lars strom

12-26-2019, 12:45 PM

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RogerH

12-26-2019, 04:57 PM

Note how they spelled Mark Rotharmel....Divion 1 winner.

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lars strom

12-26-2019, 05:05 PM

HeeHee..Well RogerH..that's the way they spell the second place Mercury driver..The winners name with Johnson power was spelled correct..!!..:)
Sorry WaterMark..!!..:):)

lars strom

12-26-2019, 05:06 PM

Evinrude Australia (https://www.facebook.com/EvinrudeAUS/?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARCqkGl011HWuow-LQ73PIGLXEBWo2Qcockrtzws8rs2ErP_IhqY7Mf7A6dUWjcSCNH527fRXAGJTSDTNjRAiRS8u-3Qxvmw7bF6_ZUUcTjf3HSgpxaKD3ynNnR4KzxuUCAnvt6XGeHoC_E34DyYZhTCvxg-HkEuCfL_9yvnjfBdyp5N7QaVJQjGFnQ7f6K5sLbNkekPc-7rgfwBrT6tosiZP3G-zqpL5m82RLqtEBMmQ9HgWYQe2fEQUNP4QpZjJJgcz-raG59kJxozbv5livBVm06wBmtLPT1fJtxFOB5se2TuDUK1_WCjJMYXQCvxcEMMuvXY3ee2MNcgXjyhU_9ufeV_XtaeDyiK9ztHjj w00XN-cver7lm5&__tn__=k%2AF&tn-str=k%2AF)

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lars strom

12-26-2019, 07:18 PM

Bill Seebold Jnr, Jimbo McConnell, Renato Molinari, Kenny Kitson & Johnnie Sanders.
Vintage seventies.

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Instigator

12-26-2019, 07:37 PM

And all the Checkmates!
People forget they used to be record holding race winners.

Note how they spelled Mark Rotharmel....Divion 1 winner.

oldschoolltv

12-26-2019, 07:56 PM

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Instigator

12-26-2019, 08:07 PM

Is that your dad??

I used to have an APBA record book from the ‘70’s and ALL the OPC vee bottom endurance records were held by Checkmate.

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Bob V

12-26-2019, 08:52 PM

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lars strom

12-26-2019, 09:16 PM

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oldschoolltv

12-26-2019, 10:18 PM

Yes that is.
Is that your dad??

I used to have an APBA record book from the ‘70’s and ALL the OPC vee bottom endurance records were held by Checkmate.

oldschoolltv

12-26-2019, 10:24 PM

Some of his fleet. He bumped the record in FE by almost 4mph.

Instigator

12-27-2019, 07:44 AM

Way cool dude!

Yes that is.

Instigator

12-27-2019, 07:47 AM

Great stuff!

Would have loved to have me your dad while we lived down there. (Pretty sure he’s still around?)

Some of his fleet. He bumped the record in FE by almost 4mph.

lars strom

12-27-2019, 08:37 AM

1976 was the first year for the 200HP Johnson V6. A powerful 2.448 liter cross-flow.
Thanks S&F

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lars strom

12-27-2019, 09:53 AM

Johnson Stinger 2.

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2us70

12-27-2019, 11:40 AM

455121455122here are a couple of this boat in action
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Bob V

12-27-2019, 12:10 PM

here are a couple of this boat in action

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Instigator

12-27-2019, 02:45 PM

Bring an old kneel down guy, I have to love #24 in the bottom picture.
Your always trying to get your ass against the transom to fly the bow.

His ass is against the clamp bracket.
Perfect ��

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2us70

12-27-2019, 03:25 PM

that boat was the last SE national champion with a 44in Merc. Got recycled into SD in 74 after they changed the lower units on the 50s. Ran over 4 mph faster than it did in SE.

Bob V

12-27-2019, 03:38 PM

Instigator

12-27-2019, 04:10 PM

Meanwhile, Matt’s dad puts it on cruise and takes a nap ��

#24 has to be 200 lbs lighter??
Still a great shot. 24 is watching the Checkmate.

I saw a race in Cols Ohio during this era w/a kneel down boat running w/the OPC’s.
I would have loved to try them on.
I believe I had a 20H on a Bezoat runabout that would have scared them
In smooth water.

May still have a pic somewhere.A pickle fork tunnel w/an I-6 w/giant forks.
It was fast.

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FUJIMO

12-27-2019, 05:25 PM

lars strom

12-27-2019, 05:34 PM

Evinrude V4...J-Production winner...

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Instigator

12-27-2019, 05:56 PM

My 20H on my Bezoats runabout.
Man was that thing fast.
And a freagin blast to wring its neck!

Instigator, a 20H Bezoat would get to those speeds for sure. A slightly more modern version too...https://i.pinimg.com/originals/65/12/b8/6512b8e14b35fc03af71a9a2d8afaa3a.jpg

Bob V

12-27-2019, 06:19 PM

My 20H on my Bezoats runabout.
Man was that thing fast.
And a freagin blast to wring its neck!

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lars strom

12-28-2019, 09:49 AM

From the 1965 Evinrude catalog

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2us70

12-28-2019, 11:47 AM

My favorite Stock Outboard class. My son's father-in-law has one of those motors in his garage. Has not been started in years. I was fortunate to have seen Stover Hire in a BSR at Tavares a couple of times back in the day. He was amazing.
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lars strom

12-28-2019, 11:59 AM

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lars strom

12-28-2019, 06:11 PM

Nice G2 picture.

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lars strom

12-28-2019, 09:56 PM

Thanks Darren Johnson

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lars strom

12-28-2019, 10:34 PM

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lars strom

12-29-2019, 10:58 AM

Great memories from the London F1-V8 GP.
Raced there two times.
1983 & 1985.

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lars strom

12-29-2019, 12:12 PM

Ric McChesney (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009098666022&fref=gs&__tn__=%2CdK-R-R&eid=ARBCJQ0C-dIiHdf8iR9Mpj6cuCRTJiMz9BxuGSvcXrliZt4k-zbRZctov-oa2ENBigs9iP2eWI-ckgJZ&dti=2043017495976607&hc_location=group) and Carina Strom (https://www.facebook.com/carina.strom.5473?fref=gs&__tn__=%2CdK-R-R&eid=ARA83Wxz9b8iOAQLldhnLtCTYZNfE7xFGUzIxKVu7VsDjoUrzZI7fFPUwRHfTkAc-aGo_eUBXGnEnq36&dti=2043017495976607&hc_location=group).
I am not sure where and when this picture was taken by me but it’s a good one.
Happy New Year to all the readers here at this S&F thread.

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lars strom

12-29-2019, 02:32 PM

John Tucker was working for OMC Racing in Europe for many years. Extremely nice and helpful.
If I remember right John was originally from South Africa but not 100% sure.

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lars strom

12-29-2019, 05:06 PM

Very nice. Thanks Evinrude Australia.

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lars strom

12-29-2019, 05:38 PM

Simon Francis
Evinrude UIM F-3

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lars strom

12-29-2019, 08:57 PM

More of Simon Francis beautiful race boat with Evinrude UIM F-3 power.

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powerabout

12-29-2019, 09:10 PM

weird cowl shape...

99fxst99

12-29-2019, 09:43 PM

What is F3? Similar to SST60?

lars strom

12-29-2019, 09:53 PM

What is F3? Similar to SST60?

No, UIM F-3 is a none restricted pure racing class. Max 850 cc is the only rule. Must be over 700 cc but no more than 850cc.

Here is a picture of the OMC 31 UIM F-3 / OE class engine used on the #73 boat above.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=455269&d=1577674204

This is the best ever Evinrude F3 engine. If I remember right my brother Lennart raced the first one in Martinique the winter 1987/88 and forward.
I drove a few F3 races 1990 with this engine

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=455270&d=1577674305

99fxst99

12-29-2019, 11:57 PM

No, UIM F-3 is a none restricted pure racing class. Max 850 cc is the only rule. Must be over 700 cc but no more than 850cc.

Here is a picture of the OMC 31 UIM F-3 / OE class engine used on the #73 boat above.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=455269&d=1577674204

This is the best ever Evinrude F3 engine. If I remember right my brother Lennart raced the first one in Martinique the winter 1987/88 and forward.
I drove a few F3 races 1990 with this engine

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=455270&d=1577674305

So more of a Mod 50 engine, yes?
Nice looking engine. It is a shame that this racing has died out.

powerabout

12-30-2019, 03:24 AM

So more of a Mod 50 engine, yes?
Nice looking engine. It is a shame that this racing has died out.
front half is mod 50 but the block isnt

Cees took it one step further

lars strom

12-30-2019, 08:27 AM

So more of a Mod 50 engine, yes?
Nice looking engine. It is a shame that this racing has died out.

Well..the fact is the OMC 31 race engine for the UIM F3/OE class was developed 100% by OMC engineering.
(Jim Nerstrom was one of them)
It was test-raced the first time by my brother Lennart Strom in Martinigue in the winter 1987/88. (Picture)
This engine was newer used in the USA/Mod 50 class. Only for UIM F3/OE racing. OMC racing in Europe with Leo Molendijk was responsible for the service at the races. (Leo is in the picture with my brother in the picture below, blue shirt)
It was an extremely good and reliable race engine for many years and replaced the earlier OMC F3/OE class engines.
I raced this 31 engine three times in 1990. (Outside Paris, Hungary and the Stockholm GP)
Many years later when OMC closed down the racing department in Belgium Cees Van Der Velden continued some time supporting the UIM F3 class racing. Cees was never part of any development of this 31 engine.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=455285&d=1577712232

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=455286&d=1577674305

lars strom

12-30-2019, 08:44 AM

My brother Lennarts Evinrude 31 engine at the race outside Paris 1990.
Lennart won the race and I had some issues and did not finish the race.
You can see the OMC race service truck in the background. Lennart won the World UIM F3 series 1990.

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lars strom

12-30-2019, 08:52 AM

Me and my brother Lennart got very good media cover when we raced the UIM F3 series 1990. The Evinrude 31 engine was the power for both our Burgess boats.
Rosenudde was our great main sponsor.
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lars strom

12-30-2019, 11:50 AM

More of Simon Francis beautiful race boat with Evinrude UIM F-3 power.

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One more picture of the #73 UIM F-3 Burgess with Evinrude 31 power.

https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=455300&d=1577724527

lars strom

12-31-2019, 08:39 AM

Johnson GT 115

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lars strom

12-31-2019, 09:00 AM

The First two Hoffman’s circa 1989 Parker mini enduro.

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Instigator

12-31-2019, 09:02 AM

On a Checkmate.

Johnson GT 115

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lars strom

12-31-2019, 09:36 AM

Happy New Year everybody..:cheers:

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Watermark

12-31-2019, 11:30 AM

I believe UI-6 is Canadian Freddy Fincham.. 1971 perhaps?

2us70

12-31-2019, 11:40 AM

lars strom

12-31-2019, 03:24 PM

The UIM rule was class and your race number.
The race number was normally the same number as your race license number.

Watermark

12-31-2019, 03:25 PM

Did the Canadians keep the class designation on the boat numbers after 1969? APBA dropped them in 1970. I recall a boat at the 68 Nationals with the number FJJ-2US in foot high letters. Took up the whole side of the boat.

Yes, 2us70. Canada dropped class designations following the 1973 season, although I remember some racers began shrinking the size of the letters after 1970. Interestingly, this results page has Tommy Lee's FJ-1 Checkmate sporting both classes that he ran in the Division 2. FJ & U1 were often combined into one division, as were FE & FG.... S & U ..... and even S & SK back then. Separate points, but often confusing for the spectators.

This particular event was my very first boat race. We had a 13' Checkmate on order, but it didn't arrive in time for the May 24th weekend, so Ted Quinn (dealer/ distributor and Mercury Racing's main consultant) loaned me a 14' Checkmate. Quebec's Gerry Fournier was the guy to beat in his OMC. I won FG class and Gerry won FE - both running in Division 1. What a thrill that was, and when my 13-footer finally arrived, there was no looking back - Hooked for life on this sport!

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2us70

12-31-2019, 03:45 PM

I did a couple of seasons in an E Production boat based on the MX13. Not much luck with that running a Mercury against the OMCs. My last season was in a G production 14' version of that boat455376

lars strom

12-31-2019, 04:40 PM

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powerabout

01-01-2020, 12:00 AM

looking forward to the 400hp G2 v8

lars strom

01-01-2020, 11:31 AM

Not sure if BRP is going to step up to what should have been done many years ago.

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lars strom

01-01-2020, 06:07 PM

Alan Stoker

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lars strom

01-02-2020, 09:20 AM

A UIM F3 Evinrude engine is for sale in Finland.
More info and pictures soon.
Yes it’s the OMC 31 model.

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lars strom

01-02-2020, 08:56 PM

A UIM F3 Evinrude engine is for sale in Finland.
Yes it’s the OMC 31 model.

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lars strom

01-03-2020, 08:50 AM

Like the good old days..
Bertil Wik is smiling and enjoying a fun day boating in the Stuart waterways.
My Evinrude E-TEC hat is fitting him perfect.
Two former Evinrude F1-V8 drivers..The only to Swedes that ever raced the most powerful 2 stroke V8 outboard engine built.
Thanks for visiting us Bertil and your family.

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lars strom

01-03-2020, 04:40 PM

Thanks Scream And Fly Magazine

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