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	08-21-2024, 08:10 AM #1591We have invented the world; WE see
 
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	08-21-2024, 09:02 AM #1592 Team Member Team Member- Join Date
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 That's nothing, mate. You should open up a google page and search "ca battery storage plant fires", "ca battery storage facility fires". Sadly, There's enough to keep you reading for hours if you can spare the time. And of course, that's just CA. 
 
 Yesterday, google's AI gave a pretty good synopsis and that was just the most recent fires, (there have been more, of course). I was going to paste it in just now. But google has taken it down. It was not a good look for the politics of using massive banks of lithium to store energy.
 
 The obsession with lithium is bizarre, when it comes to fix base, large storage plants. Of course you have to use lithium for cars, and even lithium is too heavy for boats and airplanes, but for land based fixed storage, it's hyper-expensive and prone to thermal runaway fires and environmental disasters, lawsuits from people sick and injured in their homes from toxic fumes, etc... Anyway, the high cost and unsuitability of lithium for fixed base mass storage, makes one wonder if our politicians are using taxpayer money to make their cronies rich.
 
 -PeterLast edited by pcrussell50; 08-21-2024 at 09:10 AM. "padded wonder"
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 the wet:
 18’ Bahner bow rider, 2.4/200
 
 Hydrostream Viper, 140 v4 crossflow, some Raker props
 16' Baja/Tahiti/Sidewinder clone, 135 v4 crossflow
 17' boston whaler alert, 90 merc fourstroke
 13' boston whaler, 40hp yamaha
 
 the dry:
 2003 bmw ///M5
 1993 mustang/griggs racing road race car
 and a handful of clunkers
 
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	08-21-2024, 09:46 AM #1593A while back I maintained a road race car. It was a Ralt chassis with a Cosworth 4 cylinder (pinto) that ran in the "C roadster" class. The driver / owner would tell me how he won his class at every event. My Porsche peeps told me one day ... that was the only C roadster in Florida ...  
 To be the champion / record holder in a one horse race .. well, I would be embarrassed to even mention it .. let alone have some marketing firm make it out to be a big deal .. LMAO
 
 So that first "record holder" got switched back to gas after .. what, 2 or 3 miles .. if electric was so good ... why didn't it stay that way. 
 No doubt this next one will suffer the same fate ... One thing is for sure ... neither land CRAB nor noli will be buying this one after the event ...  
 
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	08-21-2024, 11:17 AM #1594 Team Member Team Member- Join Date
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 Waitwut? Why? I don’t keep up with this particular operation. I only run numbers as I get them, to see what is physically believable and what isn’t. They didn’t say anything about this on the Vision Marine web site.  
 
 So what happened? Is the battery Hellkat program terminated? Moved to a different hull? Moved to a different motor? Overboosting the same motor more than they did before? Was the original Hellkat hull holding them back in their pursuit of speed records? Again, nothing on new their web site. Just last year’s LOTO shootout stuff.
 
 Cuda provided a link, but no tech and no synopsis on the current state of the program. Me? I just want some numbers I can run.
 
 -PeterLast edited by pcrussell50; 08-21-2024 at 03:05 PM. "padded wonder"
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 the wet:
 18’ Bahner bow rider, 2.4/200
 
 Hydrostream Viper, 140 v4 crossflow, some Raker props
 16' Baja/Tahiti/Sidewinder clone, 135 v4 crossflow
 17' boston whaler alert, 90 merc fourstroke
 13' boston whaler, 40hp yamaha
 
 the dry:
 2003 bmw ///M5
 1993 mustang/griggs racing road race car
 and a handful of clunkers
 
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	08-21-2024, 04:17 PM #1595I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought. 
 
 
 I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
 
 
 Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
 Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
 Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
 Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
 Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
 24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
 24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
 19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
 Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
 Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
 
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	08-21-2024, 04:22 PM #1596It was just a publicity stunt. 
 
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	08-21-2024, 04:26 PM #1597 Team Member Team Member- Join Date
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 Got it, thanks. I was confused when Cuda said something recently about how they are going for new records. And posted a link. But there is nothing in the link that mentions that they sold their boat. Or plan to get a new one. Or set any new records. Nothing. And isn't LOTO coming up any day now?  
 
 -Peter"padded wonder"
 __________
 the wet:
 18’ Bahner bow rider, 2.4/200
 
 Hydrostream Viper, 140 v4 crossflow, some Raker props
 16' Baja/Tahiti/Sidewinder clone, 135 v4 crossflow
 17' boston whaler alert, 90 merc fourstroke
 13' boston whaler, 40hp yamaha
 
 the dry:
 2003 bmw ///M5
 1993 mustang/griggs racing road race car
 and a handful of clunkers
 
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	08-21-2024, 05:21 PM #1598OMG, it only took you guys two years to figure that out, TDS in action  
 
 
 Peter, Peter's pumpkin eater, may God help you
 
 This is Shaun's own design boat last and this year, he races in Super Stock 32ft 300r hp
 
 I believe this is one of a handful of this design,
 
 https://lakeoftheozarksshootout.com/...arks-shootout/
 
 https://lakeoftheozarksshootout.com/We have invented the world; WE see
 
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	08-21-2024, 06:34 PM #1600 Team Member Team Member- Join Date
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 Last edited by pcrussell50; 08-22-2024 at 02:35 PM. "padded wonder"
 __________
 the wet:
 18’ Bahner bow rider, 2.4/200
 
 Hydrostream Viper, 140 v4 crossflow, some Raker props
 16' Baja/Tahiti/Sidewinder clone, 135 v4 crossflow
 17' boston whaler alert, 90 merc fourstroke
 13' boston whaler, 40hp yamaha
 
 the dry:
 2003 bmw ///M5
 1993 mustang/griggs racing road race car
 and a handful of clunkers
 
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	08-21-2024, 06:36 PM #1601The race is this weekend, have results afterward  
 
 I posted an hour-long podcast if you did not watch it what am I to do?
 
 https://superstockoffshore.com/race-teams/s-1/We have invented the world; WE see
 
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	08-21-2024, 07:17 PM #1602 Team Member Team Member- Join Date
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 oh cudes… I followed your link. It shows Shaun as a throttle man for an S-2 boat with a couple of 300R’s. It doesn’t say anything about his side hustle dabbling with battery boats at LOTO. 
 
 So far, we still have just your word on Shaun’s dealings with Vision. Not that we don’t believe you. I believe you anyway. Believe it or not. Just keep reporting to us on his battery boating. Because the Vision Marine site was saying nothing as of this morning.
 
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 __________
 the wet:
 18’ Bahner bow rider, 2.4/200
 
 Hydrostream Viper, 140 v4 crossflow, some Raker props
 16' Baja/Tahiti/Sidewinder clone, 135 v4 crossflow
 17' boston whaler alert, 90 merc fourstroke
 13' boston whaler, 40hp yamaha
 
 the dry:
 2003 bmw ///M5
 1993 mustang/griggs racing road race car
 and a handful of clunkers
 
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	08-21-2024, 08:48 PM #1603I heard they were originally going to go for the electric helicopter altitude record... but Shaun was like, "Wait, what?"   
 
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	08-21-2024, 08:52 PM #1604We have invented the world; WE see
 
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	08-21-2024, 09:14 PM #1605Peter , let there be no confusion .. anything that the "Land CRAB" posts .. is just nonsense. 
 
 Here's something to do if you need to crunch some numbers ...
 
 Look at the date he joined this site. Then look at the post count. 
 
 Add the "likes" and "thanks" together that have been given to him .. then divide that into the post count.
 
 What percentage did you come up with ......      
 
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