electric catamaran boat to set world record

**CUDA** · 12-30-2023, 09:41 PM

Yes, an STV will go a lot faster with the same power.

I'm sure Jack could build a 300-pound boat for them that would go much faster.

I was in a shop today where they Infused a 24ft Cat,

24 ft long running surface, eight feet wide, the boat will be sub 600lbs.

I googled liberator and got 900 bare hull,

that's three times the weight of a lightweight STV...

**Brad Zastrow** · 12-30-2023, 10:27 PM

The Auto industry is predicting that by 2030, 52% of all new cars sold will be EV. Currently it is 18%. My choice of car for the last 30 years has been Jaguars, Mercedes and a few BMWs. I simply like nice cars. The Tesla S is an amazing car and stupid fast. I met a guy who was driving a new Bentley convertible. He also owns a Model S and he loves it. He told me only has the best cars and the Tesla is one best cars he has ever owned. It is true some EV cars like Ford use a heating element that kill the range in the winter. Tesla uses a heat pump for heating and cooling with no range issues at all. Nice side benefit with the Tesla is the heat comes on instantly with no waiting for the engine to warm up. Go for a ride in a Plaid, it will blow your mind.

**JPEROG** · 12-30-2023, 11:54 PM

I agree, they are incredible for acceleration and very quite, (not just because of the exhaust lack), but from no rattles, very well sealed etc. Elon will most likely be the worlds first Trillionaire due to his continual and passionate innovations combined with his lack of fear.

The cars that we drive today are not expensive to fuel. Trucks and big SUVS are what use fuel. There is no reason we can't have a V8 Hybrid and or diesel Hybrid that makes incredible power and torque thru assist. These could get great mileage with onboard charging features so we are not worried about the electric infrastructure and associated cost that will be dumped on all of us in the near future in order to support the lefts crazy agenda of total fossil elimination.

This article will put things in perspective for the all E.V. believers. We have much bigger fish to catch then passenger cars, when you read the saving since 2007 with recent diesel technology its astounding. Think of what electric assist could do in cutting these usage and output numbers again by 35 to 50 percent. I have always been taught that if you are going chase something, chase something that will yield a big result.

https://www.mhlnews.com/transportati...ered-by-diesel

Joe

**JPEROG** · 12-31-2023, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by David

Interesting that UM chose a center pod tunnel. I would have thought that a true tunnel had more speed potential

$$$

Joe

**David** · 12-31-2023, 10:09 AM

For personal use, it's possible that a plug in hybrid is the best solution. Big batteries take a lot of energy, minerals, and $ to make. Using a relatively small battery for 90% of use and relying on a gas engine for range has its theoretical merits, and that is what Toyota is pushing. But I do not have a plug in hybrid on order. I worship at the alter of Colin Chapman who said "add lightness and simplicity". Lightness is gone either way, but hybrids are maximum complexity.

I can't see electrics working for long haul trucking in the short/medium term, not even hybrids. A truck is not going to reclaim much energy from braking driving across the plains. Perhaps fuel cell hydrogen is the future for trucks, but that always seems 10 years out. New trucks put out a lot less soot now, and often don't even have the tall exhaust pipes anymore.

It's possible to turn on your electric car's heat pump with your cell phone and have the car warm inside when you unplug it to drive. I expect that if one left the heater on, and remote started an ICE engine, the same result could be achieved.

$$$ A new Liberator costs less then a used race tunnel? Or maybe they wanted/needed a new boat

**PanRonnie** · 12-31-2023, 10:41 AM

By 2025 you can no longer enter Amsterdam center with your compagny van, in 2030 everybody has to have an electric vehicle!
https://www.electrive.com/2023/06/07...most-vehicles/
This is going to be interesting

**FMP** · 12-31-2023, 02:40 PM

Game on
https://newatlas.com/marine/yamaha-h...tion-outboard/

**Chaz** · 12-31-2023, 04:19 PM

I'm all for technological advancement. I'd love to have a T.I.G. torch with a little antenna that I could stick in my back pocket. walk out to the back alley to weld a
man's problem of the day .. without dragging stuff close to / in the door to work on. Will it happen in my life time ... are you that stupid .. ???

2030 or New Years day 2024 .. it bothers me that our empty suit leader can say .. I've put up with all this fos, fozal, fooh, gas stuff since POTUS harris took office. We are not selling another drop of it from 1-1-2024 on. Even the left-tards can see the implications of that disaster. (well maybe I give some of them too much credit)
Best we could hope for is for him to walk off of a really tall stage at that point .. or elect a leader in November .. that's based in practical common sense .. that put's America first (as always the rest of the free world will be happy to follow)

**Speed Jr.** · 12-31-2023, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by David

Interesting that UM chose a center pod tunnel. I would have thought that a true tunnel had more speed potential

When you see the drive system they are using, a center pod is definitely the way to go. They need a sturdy platform. They plan on running at LOTO Shootout. Hope to get a close look at it.

Jr.

**CUDA** · 12-31-2023, 09:54 PM

Well, If they plan on LOTTO, Todd from Wicked Powerboats just started building a 24 ft 60-inch wide tunnel

With or without a center pod, he raced a 29 ft with the same bottom design and won on a calm water race. Then they changed the rules to make it harder, so he had D W build a 32 mold of Todd's design.

Saturday, they infused a 24 ft-glass/carbon epoxy hull in a little over an hour with just under 30 gals of epoxy.

It took two guys a week to load the mold and 100 minutes to mix the resin and play with the air valves

Todd said a 500 lb carbon/epoxy is the plan, for an offshore race boat in the C3 class, yes boat has a canopy with safety hatches

Above and below.

If I was to try LOTTO this boat would be a much WISER choice...

It will eat the chop and weigh 1/2 of the Lib

The power-to-weight ratio is everything.

The C-3 offshore race class uses 225 HP Pro XS in race form with said motor speeds in the 80's

**Speed Jr.** · 12-31-2023, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by CUDA

Well, If they plan on LOTTO, Todd from Wicked Powerboats just started building a 24 ft 60-inch wide tunnel

With or without a center pod, he raced a 29 ft with the same bottom design and won on a calm water race. Then they changed the rules to make it harder, so he had D W build a 32 mold of Todd's design.

Saturday, they infused a 24 ft-glass/carbon epoxy hull in a little over an hour with just under 30 gals of epoxy.

It took two guys a week to load the mold and 100 minutes to mix the resin and play with the air valves

Todd said a 500 lb carbon/epoxy is the plan, for an offshore race boat in the C3 class, yes boat has a canopy with safety hatches

Above and below.

If I was to try LOTTO this boat would be a much WISER choice...

It will eat the chop and weigh 1/2 of the Lib

The power-to-weight ratio is everything.

The C-3 offshore race class uses 225 HP Pro XS in race form with said motor speeds in the 80's

Again, that is definitely not the boat of choice for the powertrain. Why post something that has nothing to do with Electric power? Why not just post "I'd use a 50' Mystic".....either way nobody cares what you are not doing. Just saying......

**powerabout** · 12-31-2023, 10:50 PM

Do the batteries get put in land fill with the windmill blades or separate dumps?

Gov legislation is so far behind in so many areas.

Ev takes pollution out of a city no question.
Electric motors can do anything.

Batteries are a problem on many fronts.

**FMP** · 12-31-2023, 10:54 PM

Blades last decades, bats not so much.
If you want to get rhetorical..

**powerabout** · 12-31-2023, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by FMP

Blades last decades, bats not so much.
If you want to get rhetorical..

about 10,000 per year, lots from abandoned windmills too.
Nuclear fuel lasts even longer

**CUDA** · 01-01-2024, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Speed Jr.

Again, that is definitely not the boat of choice for the powertrain. Why post something that has nothing to do with Electric power? Why not just post "I'd use a 50' Mystic".....either way nobody cares what you are not doing. Just saying......

Well, I guess I hurt your feelings because I dislike your copyboat,

I understand you have a center pod, and it sounds like they may be going with an Arenson surface drive. That's why I said with or

Without a center pod insert,

JEEZ, I thought I stated my reason for using another boat, 50-foot Mystic. You really ripped it up New Year's Huh?

Let me explain this to you: when setting speed records, efficiency is VERY important; that's why I would not think your 50 ft Mystic

would be even worse

The Eliminator / Liberator does not pack much air to gain lift to cut friction with the water more of a ground effect type of lift rather
than packing air and is much heavier. To my knowledge, they Are old school, not Infusing. Technology has come a long way, but

most don't get involved because It takes unique knowledge and

It must be set up right because you get one shot.

I'm confused as to why you bring up an outrageous boat when I'm talking about efficiency.

I'm friends with Todd but have nothing to do with his boat business; I'm just hanging around trying to learn something and be helpful

if possible, I like boat racers, not weekend Ego Trippers,

whose main goal is to LOOK at ME!!

https://www.screamandfly.com/archive...p/t-33788.html