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    Quote Originally Posted by John S View Post
    Perfect time to rip that old smoker out of your old hotrod, and bring it in to the new century. The only smoke you'll see is from the tires.

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    Weeelll... that's ... not exactly a fair representation of reality. Both batteries and electric motors pre-date IC engines by several decades. Further, in the infancy of automobiles, battery cars were everywhere. But they were ancient tech, and could not compete with the new tech (which was IC) when it arrived. So battery cars failed under their own weight, so to speak.

    The same problems with battery cars from 130 years ago are the problems today: short range or massive weight, and… expensive. Which is fine for rich man’s lifestyle toys, like Tesla or Rivian. The same rich men who probably also have a full sized petrol SUV or a diesel 1-ton. On the everyday, boring reliable appliance front … I must see 50 Teslas for every Leaf or Bolt. Battery cars are still too expensive and too inconvenient for the ordinary bloke working a service industry job, living in an apartment and parking on the street.

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    currently it is more expensive in europe to charge your car than fill it up with petrol
    but maybe it was not a wise idea to couple electric pricing to gas pricing!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    Pro golfers walk the course ... fattard libs like yourself, ride in slowazz carts .. see the diff

    BTW, what's a "ste" .. ???

    My vote is ... Super Tard Engineering

    As in : motocrossers are gaining in super tard engineering as well ..
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    e-bike-sparked-queens-house-fire-that-killed-8-year-old CBS NewYork




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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun K View Post
    e-bike-sparked-queens-house-fire-that-killed-8-year-old CBS NewYork



    Gotta love sensationalism. Just like politics, look for one example, pass it on as the norm. Don't much matter. It's here, and you ain't stopping it. Oh, now do the same area, natural gas explosions.

    As I've said, I'm in construction, with around 100 people minimum on any given day. I have not seen, not heard of one failure like that. Nor have any of my friends in the trades. In the wrong hands, bad shizz happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John S View Post
    Gotta love sensationalism. Just like politics, look for one example, pass it on as the norm. Don't much matter. It's here, and you ain't stopping it. Oh, now do the same area, natural gas explosions.

    As I've said, I'm in construction, with around 100 people minimum on any given day. I have not seen, not heard of one failure like that. Nor have any of my friends in the trades. In the wrong hands, bad shizz happens.
    Are you Ok John ? From sunny land lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by John S View Post
    Gotta love sensationalism. Just like politics, look for one example, pass it on as the norm. Don't much matter. It's here, and you ain't stopping it. Oh, now do the same area, natural gas explosions.

    As I've said, I'm in construction, with around 100 people minimum on any given day. I have not seen, not heard of one failure like that. Nor have any of my friends in the trades. In the wrong hands, bad shizz happens.
    Poor Mr. Johns. You can’t win for losing, mate. It’s coming… And not because of a single example, but because of increasingly many examples. In Europe they are already starting to ban battery cars from parking in underground parking garages. Why? White hot fires that can’t be put out without heavy equipment, and difficulty getting the big equipment in tight garages with low ceilings. The fear with white-hot lithium fires is structural damage that could cause building collapse or severe damage.

    -Peter
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    the electric planes are coming ..

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...ce-2022-09-15/


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    Quote Originally Posted by noli View Post
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    the electric planes are coming ..
    "Sweden-based Heart's electric-hybrid aircraft under development will have capacity for up to 30 passengers and generate zero emissions when they enter service, which is expected in 2028, Canada's largest carrier said in a release."

    Read More -" Under the Paris accord, countries agreed to limit the rise in global temperatures from pre-industrial levels to 2 degrees Celsius and preferably to 1.5 degrees. To do that, scientists say the world needs to cut emissions to net zero by 2050."



    All this progress predicated on lies to save the earth right ? Of course state media Reuters have pictures of an Airbus for the readers

    But let me translate that anyway, - these are the future planes for people like Justin Trudeau, john Kerry & Gavin Newsome who fly around in carbon spewing private jets right now. But "Our" commercial flying days will be over for the good of mother earth" .

    Oh but these comments are sooo political, you "aint" stopping progress buddy !!!!!! -Land of Sunny

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcrussell50 View Post
    Weeelll... that's ... not exactly a fair representation of reality. Both batteries and electric motors pre-date IC engines by several decades. Further, in the infancy of automobiles, battery cars were everywhere. But they were ancient tech, and could not compete with the new tech (which was IC) when it arrived. So battery cars failed under their own weight, so to speak.

    The same problems with battery cars from 130 years ago are the problems today: short range or massive weight, and… expensive. Which is fine for rich man’s lifestyle toys, like Tesla or Rivian. The same rich men who probably also have a full sized petrol SUV or a diesel 1-ton. On the everyday, boring reliable appliance front … I must see 50 Teslas for every Leaf or Bolt. Battery cars are still too expensive and too inconvenient for the ordinary bloke working a service industry job, living in an apartment and parking on the street.

    -Peter
    America must not have gotten the memo. In the last three years, I have built three buildings, all with underground EV parking/ charging. Increased fire protection in that area. See how the process works, mate? Problem... Engineering.... Solution. Like I said, all the autos are retooling their plants, building battery facilities, renewables are growing by the day. But I can't win? Heh. Like the lone Japanese soldier holding his post after WW2 was long lost, you guys just haven't accepted the news yet. Heh ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by John S View Post
    America must not have gotten the memo. In the last three years, I have built three buildings, all with underground EV parking/ charging. Increased fire protection in that area. See how the process works, mate? Problem... Engineering.... Solution. Like I said, all the autos are retooling their plants, building battery facilities, renewables are growing by the day. But I can't win? Heh. Like the lone Japanese soldier holding his post after WW2 was long lost, you guys just haven't accepted the news yet. Heh ��

    LOL ! What's it all going to run on John S ? Thousands of Wind Turbines in the San Francisco bay ? Please do tell ! The Land of Sunny power grid is dog sht right now.

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    When an idea is so good you have to force it on people by coercion and deceit.....you know the whole things gonna be a disaster of epic proportions.

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    I am still curious how the claim of "zero emissions" can be made over and over again when these things require something that omits emissions to generate the power that they need.

    [QUOTE=Shaun K;3360924]"Sweden-based Heart's electric-hybrid aircraft under development will have capacity for up to 30 passengers and generate zero emissions when they enter service, which is expected in 2028, Canada's largest carrier said in a release." [/QUOTE]
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    I guess they will use holding patterns on the kerosene burners and let the electro planes land first. Don’t see where they describe the usual reserve air time that all flights are required to have. They leave small details like this out for some reason

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