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**JPEROG** · 03-20-2025, 10:18 AM

I guess their stay originally to be only 8 days is all B.S. as well. I think I will take the word of the guy who is on the forefront of, (all things space related), rather than a retired astronauts point of view. Maybe you will believe them when they are able to speak for themselves from the oval office when they come to personally thank the people who made their rescue possible. There are well known inherent dangers and complications when people are in space for that length of time. Ask your grandpa what his opinion is and listen "we all learn from the people who have experienced more then we have".

Joe

**Chaz** · 03-20-2025, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by JPEROG

So you didn't watch the video.....Its only 1 minute long

Joe

No ... you set 571 up ... LMAO

You put up a link to an X page. You know that neither 571 nor CRAP have X accounts. Well maybe CRAP had a twitter account before Musk bought it ...

Libtards doing a 500 mile Tesla service ...

**pcrussell50** · 03-20-2025, 02:12 PM

Something about Lanier571's post isn't adding up.

If if the taxpayers paid for Butch and Suni to be there for eight days, and Butch and Suni were expecting eight days, why weren't they there for eight days?

Lanier571's article said something about proper staffing for the ISS. Ok. So then, why wasn't the proper staff sent up to replace Butch and Suni, per the original plan? To an outsider like me, something is not adding up.

I read a government news article on NPR and it didn't say either, why Butch and Suni's replacements weren't sent.

-Peter

**David - WI** · 03-20-2025, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by pcrussell50

Something about Lanier571's post isn't adding up.

If if the taxpayers paid for Butch and Suni to be there for eight days, and Butch and Suni were expecting eight days, why weren't they there for eight days?

Lanier571's article said something about proper staffing for the ISS. Ok. So then, why wasn't the proper staff sent up to replace Butch and Suni, per the original plan? To an outsider like me, something is not adding up.

I read a government news article on NPR and it didn't say either, why Butch and Suni's replacements weren't sent.

-Peter

Boeing couldn't fix the StarLiner that took them up there, in space and didn't have another one ready to go back and get them. In theory they could have come home on the crippled StarLiner they were supposed to use, it did make it back to Earth intact.

The problems with the Boeing Starliner included helium leaks in the propulsion system and the failure of five thrusters. Four of the thrusters were restored and one was turned off for the rest of the mission, according to NASA.

**pcrussell50** · 03-20-2025, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by David - WI

Boeing couldn't fix the StarLiner that took them up there, in space and didn't have another one ready to go back and get them. In theory they could have come home on the crippled StarLiner they were supposed to use, it did make it back to Earth intact.

That much I got in the NPR article. It's the bit about the minimum staffing for the ISS that was confusing me. Weren't Butch and Suni supposed to be replaced by the staff that was meant to replace them? And if the government space ship was mechanically dodgy, couldn't SpaceX have done it, to keep the schedule? Or as close to it as possible?

**David - WI** · 03-20-2025, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by pcrussell50

That much I got in the NPR article. It's the bit about the minimum staffing for the ISS that was confusing me. Weren't Butch and Suni supposed to be replaced by the staff that was meant to replace them? And if the government space ship was mechanically dodgy, couldn't SpaceX have done it, to keep the schedule? Or as close to it as possible?

Elon offered Biden a rescue mission... Biden said something about it all being Trump's fault! LoL

**pcrussell50** · 03-20-2025, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by David - WI

Elon offered Biden a rescue mission... Biden said something about it all being Trump's fault! LoL

If the government was using test pilots to help iron out the bugs in it's space ship, and there was a staffing schedule to keep for the ISS, then in order to bring it's test pilots back on schedule, and to get the right staff up to the ISS on schedule, why in the world wouldn't the government already have a contingency plan in place to use SpaceX if things didn't work out with it's experimental space ship? Seems like common sense while you are still working out bugs in your experimental design.

-Peter

**JPEROG** · 03-20-2025, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by pcrussell50

Something about Lanier571's post isn't adding up.

If if the taxpayers paid for Butch and Suni to be there for eight days, and Butch and Suni were expecting eight days, why weren't they there for eight days?

Lanier571's article said something about proper staffing for the ISS. Ok. So then, why wasn't the proper staff sent up to replace Butch and Suni, per the original plan? To an outsider like me, something is not adding up.

I read a government news article on NPR and it didn't say either, why Butch and Suni's replacements weren't sent.

-Peter

Peter,

Remember what told you about CUDA? Same applies for 571.... but his grandfather is a good guy and has common sense.

Joe

**David - WI** · 03-20-2025, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by pcrussell50

If the government was using test pilots to help iron out the bugs in it's space ship, and there was a staffing schedule to keep for the ISS, then in order to bring it's test pilots back on schedule, and to get the right staff up to the ISS on schedule, why in the world wouldn't the government already have a contingency plan in place to use SpaceX if things didn't work out with it's experimental space ship? Seems like common sense while you are still working out bugs in your experimental design.

-Peter

Around that time, Elon fell out of favor with Biden's handlers. Joe didn't notice.

**JLanier571** · 03-21-2025, 01:12 AM

This WAS the contingency plan that the astronauts agreed to before their trip. There was literally no need for an extra mission to bring them home. They are the ones who chose not to risk coming back on the Boeing, knowing they would have to wait longer. Opportunities for long term space travel are the most sought after in NASA. You're acting like they were in some sort of danger when they weren't in any more danger than any other astronaut. You know who would be in danger? The new crew on a rushed mission. People have spent multiple years worth of time in space. 8 months wasn't unreasonable at all. They weren't civilians on a tourism trip, these are scientists who trained and had made plans for this possibility. They can absolutely thank Trump and Elon for getting them home, that doesn't mean they were stranded, or that they think Biden should have made an exception for them. If it was that big of an issue, why did they come on the next scheduled trip anyway instead of Trump telling Elon to go get them in January? If it was so easy for a quick return trip, why not do it over the first 100 days? Because they get to blame Biden regardless and still score political points and not spend the extra money, and it's a nice distraction from the thousands of veterans being fired from their government jobs.

A bill was proposed revently too to restore any veteran fired by DOGE, and every republican voted to block it.

**John S** · 03-21-2025, 08:31 AM

https://phys.org/news/2025-03-nasa-d...-stranded.html

Food for thought. This conversation that was had between Musk/ Biden... No documentation, no corroboration? Just one persons word against the other? Seems odd, considering almost every waking moment a president has is recorded or observed.

**Shaun K** · 03-21-2025, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by JLanier571

He is an active supporter of the great replacment theory which is White Supremacist,

What a crazy *theory* . Thanks for the heads up

**Chaz** · 03-21-2025, 10:15 AM

Redstone, Mercury, Appolo the Challenger, all those astronauts knew what they were facing before they strapped in. They went regardless of the danger.

Boing has not had a good track record on the ground, in the air or in space over the last few years. I'm surprised that NASA chose to put humans in something they built to leave the earth's atmosphere. They have since proven they don't have the ability to go back and bring our people home.

The whole mess about leaving them there past their eight-day mission was purely sour grapes by the FJB handlers. It would be just one more thing that Trump arranged to fix well before he even got in office.

Spin it how you want , purely political .. totally inept

**JLanier571** · 03-21-2025, 01:00 PM

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/21/trum...t-reuters.html

And another reward for Boeings failures. They get to make the replacment for the F-22, when there isn't a plane that can beat it in the world in a dogfight, and it has only been used for a single combat mission in its entire history, to shoot down a Chinese balloon drone. The refreshed F-15 EX has been far more practical, has better software than even the F35, at a way cheaper price. The F-22 program was stopped at 147 planes because they were hundreds of millions apiece, and weren't being used for anything other than airshows and training. Not to mention the F-35 disaster. Wars of the future are gonna be fought with thousands of hundred dollar drones, not fighter jets.

**pcrussell50** · 03-21-2025, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by JLanier571

They get to make the replacment for the F-22, when there isn't a plane that can beat it in the world in a dogfight

True, even 25 years later up to today.

The F-22 program was stopped at 147 planes because they were hundreds of millions apiece, and weren't being used for anything other than airshows and training.

They were that expensive because some rocket surgeon who didn’t understand primary school economics, decided to cut off production at only 147 units instead of 1000, or 2000. When you divide the development costs of any expensive weapons platform by only 147 units, of course the per unit price is high.

Even 25 years later, nothing can touch it. And it’s still so good, that the USA will not allow even its closest allies to have them or build them under license. The USA should have a thousand of them. Minimum. They are the F15 of the modern era.

-Peter