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    The 27.5% tariff on Chinese cars might also be a factor in Chinese cars not being marketed in the US.

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    They sell to Mexico to avoid the tariff, then they come up here! you'll never guess what's in the trunks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    BIDENOMICS--the guy is a genius... If he is re-elected, I predict a full blown recession by early 2026. Please vote accordingly and educate those who are smart enough to understand.

    Joe

    Ahhh!!! The never ending moving goalposts of the upcoming recession!!! LOL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUDA View Post
    Sounds like you have a COOL wife.

    My brother's wife started crying the first time he pushed his Model S twin motor, and told him, never do that again

    She never drove the S in over six years of ownership, and now the Lucid Air GT with over 800 HP, she will not drive it.

    My brother said when she went new car shopping the only thing that mattered to her was the comfort of the driver's seat,

    Since she is 60 lbs overweight you would think he's fat butt would mold to any seat
    She loves picking on kids in Mustangs. We both went for a ride in Tesla S Plaid which is 1050 hp and over 1000 ft lbs torque. That car is sick. My wife said she wants one. I think her 600 hp 700 torque Telsa is enough. The best thing is the power is 100% at 1 rpm. No waiting to spool up like the gas engines. No maintenance and super cheap to drive. What is not to like?

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    The GM EV work truck is said to have a range of over 400 mile or charge your home for two weeks

    https://electrek.co/2024/04/18/you-c...ional-charger/

    Fords EV pickup is a sad joke... small battery.

    You can power your home for 21 days with a Chevy Silverado EV and GM’s new bidirectional charger


    Once installed, GM Energy’s home EV chargers will enable customers to send power from a compatible GM EV to their home in the face of increasing power outages across the US.


    Customers can purchase GM Energy’s V2H bundle through current GM mobile brand apps. It’s initially rolling out in five states – California, Florida, Michigan, New York, and Texas – with plans to expand over time.


    At $7,299, the bundle doesn’t come cheap. It consists of the GM Energy Powershift Charger at $1,699, and GM Energy V2H Enablement Kit at $5,600. Installation costs and taxes won’t be included and will vary, depending on a home’s existing setup and other things. GM has partnered with home EV charging installer Qmerit.

    But it’s comparable to other battery storage costs – a Powerwall costs $11,500 with a solar installation through Tesla – and GM’s system eliminates the need to install battery storage.


    The first of GM’s EVs to be compatible with the GM Energy home product suite is the 2024 Chevrolet Silverado EV First-Edition RST, which is expected to be available to customers this summer.

    The Silverado will be equipped with V2H bidirectional charging technology. With an enormous 200 kWh battery pack that can provide up to 10.2kW of power flow, the electric pickup is capable of powering an entire house for 21 days.

    GM says it will continue to roll out V2H bidirectional charging technology across its Ultium-based EVs by model year 2026. That will include the 2024 Sierra EV Denali, the 2024 Chevrolet Blazer EV, the 2024 Chevrolet Equinox EV, and the 2024 Cadillac LYRIQ.

    Some eligible 2024 GM EVs will require a dealership or over-the-air update to enable bidirectional charging.

    Electrek‘s Jameson Dow will demo GM Energy’s new V2H products on May 9 and will report back with insights.

    GM Energy is ready to compete with the likes of Tesla and its Powerwalls – it says it will sell stationary battery storage and solar integration later this year.

    Read more: Chevy just revealed the Silverado EV First-Edition RST specs and it’s got 440 miles of range

    To limit power outages and make your hom
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    Obidenomics explained for you idiots still drunk on the cool aide.




    Quote Originally Posted by fixer68 View Post
    Ahhh!!! The never ending moving goalposts of the upcoming recession!!! LOL!!!
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    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    That was Great... ?

    Here you go in your backyard, free power

    https://www.thecooldown.com/green-bu...voltaics-ohio/

    A huge solar farm that has been approved in Ohio could be the paradigm for similar ones moving forward.

    The Oak Run Solar Project on 6,000 acres in Madison County will be able to serve the grid with enough electricity to power 170,000 homes.

    The most impressive part about the billion-dollar effort is how developers are designing the massive system to include agriculture — a concept called agrivoltaics. It's part of the work to maximize sun-catching, as well as to gain support from Madison's robust farming community, according to Electrek and the project's website.

    "A solar project provides a healthy, productive economic development opportunity for local land to harvest a stable cash crop — the sun," the developers wrote on the website.


    As part of the plan, a thousand sheep will graze on the Oak Run property. There will be 2,000 acres of crops a year after the system powers up. The goal is for about 70% of the project area, around 4,000 acres, to include agriculture, according to Electrek's story.

    It's the largest project of its kind in the United States, estimated to generate $7.2 million in tax revenue each year. The system's life span is estimated at 35 years, all per the developer, Savion. Savion is a subsidiary of Shell.

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    Electrek reports that some of the land being used is owned by Bill Gates, who has supported numerous clean-energy projects.

    The dual-use nature of Oak Run has the potential to aid two growing problems on the planet: air pollution and food security.


    Reliance on dirty power sources contributes to planet overheating, which is negatively impacting the food industry. Lower productivity, droughts, and other weather-related problems are even impacting prices at the grocery store.

    Solar projects that power hundreds of thousands of homes can help our grids move to a cleaner energy base. Better yet, businesses like EnergySage are working to make installing home-based systems more accessible. The results could eliminate power bills, saving as much as $1,500 a year, especially when considering tax breaks and other incentives geared to lower setup costs.

    The U.S. Energy Department reports that renewable energy generates about 20% of the country's electricity. Solar is at about 3.4% of that mix. The project in Ohio can help to increase the production of these forms of energy, becoming a boon for two industries.

    "As climate change continues to disrupt Ohio's agriculture practices and yields, the practice of agriculture in tandem with solar panels represents a unique and bold opportunity to act on climate," Nolan Rutschilling, Ohio Environmental Council's managing director of Energy Policy, said in the Electrek story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post

    I get it now, the $7500.00 re-bait paid with my tax money ..
    yes, the cost to you (the tax payer) is $7,500

    what are the hidden costs of fossil fuels? They are ..

    * pollution
    * land degradation
    * asthma & cancer
    * we go to war protecting our oil interests overseas , thus the lives of our soldiers are the costs of fossil fuels
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    Quote Originally Posted by noli View Post
    yes, the cost to you (the tax payer) is $7,500

    what are the hidden costs of fossil fuels? They are ..

    * pollution
    * land degradation
    * asthma & cancer
    * we go to war protecting our oil interests overseas , thus the lives of our soldiers are the costs of fossil fuels
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    Sounds like lithium mining. By the way, wars can be fought over any natural resource not just fossil fuel. RR

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    Quote Originally Posted by noli View Post
    Joe,

    Are you not curious why Europe and other countries are being over-run by China-made vehicles and not USA?

    The $7500 credit is a way to keep American made vehicles built by American labor to keep Chinese vehicles out of USA

    The $7,500 tax credit is actually composed of (2) credits, $3,750 each.

    Here is an exceprt ()

    "These requirements are designed to encourage the auto industry to rely less on China and more on the U.S. for these components, in the name of supply chain security and U.S. jobs.
    One of the $3,750 credits focuses on the raw materials inside batteries, meaning a certain percentage of critical minerals, like lithium, graphite and cobalt, need to be mined or processed in the U.S. or a trade partner.

    The other $3,750 credit is about battery manufacturing: A certain percentage of the battery's components, like anodes, cathodes and electrolytes, need to be manufactured or assembled in North America.

    "


    Joe, I will help clarify the larger picture advantages as needed to educate us all here, rather than making this a one-sided view by folks who don't understand

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    folks who only see the smaller picture because of their anger towards our government






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    Best selling cars in America are: Ford F150, then Toyota Camery, then Subaru. The japs have been running circles around us and will continue to do so with their dependability "unless you buy a citizen paid electric". I get pissed off watching our employees spend our money in ways that we have no vote on. I agree with Brad, Electric has incredible performance, very few moving parts, and would make a great city car as he uses his. However, why the hell should I pay for him or anyone else to own it? Give credit to U.S. automakers to build hybrids and not have to worry about getting critical minerals from anyone. Its a total agenda that seems to have an unlimited budget (assuming will all keep making money and paying in).

    Take a look at the last 26 years and tell me we are not being over run. The way I see it is that we need to step up our game and offer a better product-not use citizens money to buy a market share. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/bes...ar-since-1978/

    Now, when they get the majority pushed into the e.v. corner, who pays for the replacement of fuel tax?, who pays for system needed to support the electric demand?, who controls your electric bill?--Can you trust your government? Ask an Indian....

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    Best selling cars in America are: Ford F150, then Toyota Camery, then Subaru. The japs have been running circles around us and will continue to do so with their dependability "unless you buy a citizen paid electric". I get pissed off watching our employees spend our money in ways that we have no vote on. I agree with Brad, Electric has incredible performance, very few moving parts, and would make a great city car as he uses his. However, why the hell should I pay for him or anyone else to own it? Give credit to U.S. automakers to build hybrids and not have to worry about getting critical minerals from anyone. Its a total agenda that seems to have an unlimited budget (assuming will all keep making money and paying in).

    Take a look at the last 26 years and tell me we are not being over run. The way I see it is that we need to step up our game and offer a better product-not use citizens money to buy a market share. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/bes...ar-since-1978/

    Now, when they get the majority pushed into the e.v. corner, who pays for the replacement of fuel tax?, who pays for system needed to support the electric demand?, who controls your electric bill?--Can you trust your government? Ask an Indian....

    Joe

    False!!! It's not even close! Ford F150 is first. Toyota Camry is not even the best selling Toyota. Camry is eighth on the list. Subaru is a brand, not a model. It does not even have a model in the top 10.
    Four of the top five and five of the top ten models are American. If you add up the numbers of the top 10 sellers. 3,788,236 cars were sold. 2,429,729 were American. 1,358,507 were foreign. More than a million more American than foreign.

    Here are the best-selling vehicles of 2023


    1. Ford F-Series: 750,789 units
    2. Chevrolet Silverado: 543,780 units
    3. Ram pickup: 444,926 units
    4. Toyota RAV4: 434,943 units
    5. Tesla Model Y: 394,497 units
    6. Honda CR-V: 361,457 units
    7. GMC Sierra: 295,737 units
    8. Toyota Camry: 290,649 units
    9. Nissan Rogue: 271,458
    10. Jeep Grand Cherokee 244,594


    The 25 Best-Selling Cars of 2023 - Kelley Blue Book (kbb.com)

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    Take the trucks out of the picture and they are mopping us up this year as per usual. Its a fact and has been this way for over 20 years. Pull the citizen subsidy and see where the plug in rates. You and I are buying Teslas market share. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g6...ing-cars-2024/

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    Take the trucks out of the picture and they are mopping us up this year as per usual. Its a fact and has been this way for over 20 years. Pull the citizen subsidy and see where the plug in rates. You and I are buying Teslas market share. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g6...ing-cars-2024/

    Joe

    LOL!!! What a ridiculous comparison! Of course they are. American car companies don't make mainstream cars anymore. They make trucks, SUV's and crossovers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    I get it now, the $7500.00 re-bait paid with my tax money .. is to sway you from buying a POS golf cart .. with a chink battery.

    Nice try nole .. but the "village idiot" award will be in CRAP's hands for a while ..

    Yes. Thank you for the rebate on my electric car! While I am at it. Thank you for the rebate on my oversized, net metered, solar panel system. And also thank you for the rebate on my arctic heat pump that I heat and cool my house with. It works great! Now, I charge my car for my 75 mile daily commute. I heat my house all winter and cool it all summer. And my electric bill still totals less than a couple hundred bucks for the whole year. Thank you for that.

    And electric cars with Chinese batteries no longer qualify for the rebate. The requirements get stricter every year. Designed to make the manufacturers source more and more American parts. Pushing that can do American agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat71 View Post
    Sounds like lithium mining. By the way, wars can be fought over any natural resource not just fossil fuel. RR
    Lithium mining USA

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