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    This thread is about the electric outboard speed record

    Greg has a section for your political views

    This is not it.
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    CRAP .. after all the left wing communist propaganda you have posted on this thread alone .. your now the self proclaimed moderator ... Pppfftttttt GFY

    Make you a deal ... take the BS out of your signature line about drifting from the truth (which we all know is what YOU DO) and I will not make :

    MAGA 2024 for the good of AMERICA my new signature ...

    PS .. only a village idiot .. would want to bring our once great country down to his level ..

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    So you could careless what Greg wants ?

    EGO

    So Gregs text message from Tuesday this week says

    "Those guys don't understand that posting stuff like that can cost me my Google ad account"

    to my knowledge this is his only income?

    This was in response to the Bud light post in the Lounge area

    I don't understand why he does not enlist someone to help him moderate

    Because It's a free for all now,

    The motorcycle forums I belong to would have cut you loose at first breach.
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    Well CRUD , I didn't get a text message this week. However, if you did ... it appears that your still too stupid to follow it's directions.

    As for Greg, I wished him a speedy and full recovery. Along those lines, from you, not a peep ..

    EGO .. to many of means : Easing GOD out. Something you have proven to us .. that you have no concept of what that even means. Once again talking about something you haven't a clue about what your saying. Honestly, I find that quite sad. I would offer you to come with me .. err .. follow me Sunday morning @ 9:00 am, but I already know you would start blabbing your mouth, when you should be listening ..

    Be careful about asking for a heavy moderator .. format. Your, Eddie Haskell, throw a rock and try to hide your hand methods .. will have you being the first one gone ..

    Just because you don't like what I write, doesn't mean it's offensive to the rest of the membership. Perhaps you'd be better off reading what I write and learning from it ... rather than jumping into the victim role ... when it doesn't fit your worthless narrative.

    The boat record was covered on the first page. The subsequent 50+ pages that followed has proven that the whole concept is nothing but a left wing plan to destroy America ... I try to understand your plight, but all I can offer is .. try to keep up ..


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    Rut Roh!

    Got this in one of my trade news letters and thought, WOW, a 33% drop in sales for Vision Boats in a quarter is huge!
    Ask Anheuser Busch!

    But then you read the rest of the story and learn that “net loss” (rut roh!) went from 1.47 million 3rd qtr last yr 2.34$ for same time this yr!

    For 9 months, yr to yr, net loss doubled!

    Our gvmt and state run medias fkg smoke and mirrors only works so long before the sheep catch on.

    https://www.tradeonlytoday.com/indus...s-losses-on-q3
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    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    Don't you guys listen to the nursing home poster child? He says repeatedly-to all who will listen- "everything's going to be fine". We have nothing to worry about LOL....

    Joe

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    Yep.
    And just nailed Trump, again.

    The economy is going to tank and I’m buying more ammo.

    If you look up, “how to start a civil war” it would refer you to the leftists in‘2023.

    Problem with Socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money.

    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    Don't you guys listen to the nursing home poster child? He says repeatedly-to all who will listen- "everything's going to be fine". We have nothing to worry about LOL....

    Joe
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
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    Trashing another thread, just like the master trasher above, HUH! don't like rules?

    Untill solid state battries become common boats and planes are only a dream, but the day will come,
    we are on the verge of many breakthroughs.


    https://visionmarinetechnologies.com...s-and-boating/

    <section class="elementor-section elementor-inner-section elementor-element elementor-element-43e8067 elementor-hidden-mobile elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default" data-id="43e8067" data-element_type="section" style="box-sizing: border-box; --flex-direction: initial; --flex-wrap: initial; --justify-content: initial; --align-items: initial; --align-content: initial; --gap: initial; --flex-basis: initial; --flex-grow: initial; --flex-shrink: initial; --order: initial; --align-self: initial; flex-basis: var(--flex-basis); flex-grow: var(--flex-grow); flex-shrink: var(--flex-shrink); order: var(--order); align-self: var(--align-self); position: relative; --swiper-theme-color: #000; --swiper-navigation-size: 44px; --swiper-pagination-bullet-size: 6px; --swiper-pagination-bullet-horizontal-gap: 6px; --widgets-spacing: 20px; width: 830px; color: rgb(75, 79, 88); font-family: Poppins, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;">
    The voting is currently underway for the 2022 Gustave Trouvé Awards for Excellence in Electric Boats and Boating (“The Gussies”), presented by PlugBoats.com. The Gussies consist of 6 categories, such as Electric Sailboats, Workboats, and more. The finalists have been chosen by a 19 person panel comprised of experts from electric boating associations from around the world, as well as winners from the first two Gussies awards in 2020 and 2021.
    </section>
    [/COLOR]


    [COLOR=var( --e-global-color-text )]Vision Marine Technologies’ (NASDAQ: VMAR) fully electric V32 HellKat widebody 32” catamaran has been nominated for World’s Best Customized/DIY Electric Boat. If you are not yet familiarized with the revolutionary V32, it is the first ever fully electric speedboat to hit the waterways. The vessel was designed from the ground up by Vision Marine, in collaboration with its eventual captain, current F1H2O World Champion Shaun Torrente and his Shaun Torrente Racing (“STR”) team.

    [/COLOR]
    About The V32



    The V32 debuted at the August 2022 Lake of the Ozarks Shootout, in which Torrente reached a stunning 109 mph, shattering and setting the world electric boat speed record. The V32 was equipped with a twin application of Vision Marine’s groundbreaking fully electric E-Motion™ 180E (180 hp) outboard motor and powertrain system, which is the most powerful and innovative electric propulsion system available to OEMs. The twin 180Es were fitted with two high density, lightweight batteries custom designed in partnership with Octillion Power Systems. Additionally, boat racing industry legends Weismann Marine custom engineered the lower units for the V32, which was incredibly important in accommodating the high torque generated by the E-Motion™ outboard technology. Furthermore, the V32 is a United States Coast Guard and CE (Conformité Européenne) certified vessel.

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    Solid state battery's would be a start and the raw materials need to come from other places than Russia and China
    Maybe build the electric car more cheaply! Remove all the self driving crap that is making these cars incredible expensive to buy and repair
    The KISS principle still applies
    If you want to drive electric with your hands off the wheel take an electric train
    Fun fact in the netherlands still 40% of railway is unelectrified and run with diesel locomotiefs

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUDA View Post
    Trashing another thread, just like the master trasher above, HUH! don't like rules?

    Untill solid state battries become common boats and planes are only a dream, but the day will come,
    we are on the verge of many breakthroughs.


    https://visionmarinetechnologies.com...s-and-boating/

    <section class="elementor-section elementor-inner-section elementor-element elementor-element-43e8067 elementor-hidden-mobile elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default" data-id="43e8067" data-element_type="section" style="box-sizing: border-box; --flex-direction: initial; --flex-wrap: initial; --justify-content: initial; --align-items: initial; --align-content: initial; --gap: initial; --flex-basis: initial; --flex-grow: initial; --flex-shrink: initial; --order: initial; --align-self: initial; flex-basis: var(--flex-basis); flex-grow: var(--flex-grow); flex-shrink: var(--flex-shrink); order: var(--order); align-self: var(--align-self); position: relative; --swiper-theme-color: #000; --swiper-navigation-size: 44px; --swiper-pagination-bullet-size: 6px; --swiper-pagination-bullet-horizontal-gap: 6px; --widgets-spacing: 20px; width: 830px; color: rgb(75, 79, 88); font-family: Poppins, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;">
    The voting is currently underway for the 2022 Gustave Trouvé Awards for Excellence in Electric Boats and Boating (“The Gussies”), presented by PlugBoats.com. The Gussies consist of 6 categories, such as Electric Sailboats, Workboats, and more. The finalists have been chosen by a 19 person panel comprised of experts from electric boating associations from around the world, as well as winners from the first two Gussies awards in 2020 and 2021.
    </section>
    [/COLOR]


    [COLOR=var( --e-global-color-text )]Vision Marine Technologies’ (NASDAQ: VMAR) fully electric V32 HellKat widebody 32” catamaran has been nominated for World’s Best Customized/DIY Electric Boat. If you are not yet familiarized with the revolutionary V32, it is the first ever fully electric speedboat to hit the waterways. The vessel was designed from the ground up by Vision Marine, in collaboration with its eventual captain, current F1H2O World Champion Shaun Torrente and his Shaun Torrente Racing (“STR”) team.

    [/COLOR]
    About The V32



    The V32 debuted at the August 2022 Lake of the Ozarks Shootout, in which Torrente reached a stunning 109 mph, shattering and setting the world electric boat speed record. The V32 was equipped with a twin application of Vision Marine’s groundbreaking fully electric E-Motion™ 180E (180 hp) outboard motor and powertrain system, which is the most powerful and innovative electric propulsion system available to OEMs. The twin 180Es were fitted with two high density, lightweight batteries custom designed in partnership with Octillion Power Systems. Additionally, boat racing industry legends Weismann Marine custom engineered the lower units for the V32, which was incredibly important in accommodating the high torque generated by the E-Motion™ outboard technology. Furthermore, the V32 is a United States Coast Guard and CE (Conformité Européenne) certified vessel.

    just reading the bottom section here about them setting the electric boat speed record, if i recall this boat only made one pass. For it to have an actually official record, doesnt the boat have to make 2 runs over a kilo in opposite directions within a certain amount of time? Also, I remember seeing the interview they did with torrente last year before the shoot out and they said the motors were making more like 300+ hp for the run, not the advertised 180. I think they were using the base 180 hp package, but had it turned up for the run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obrien View Post
    just reading the bottom section here about them setting the electric boat speed record, if i recall this boat only made one pass. For it to have an actually official record, doesnt the boat have to make 2 runs over a kilo in opposite directions within a certain amount of time? Also, I remember seeing the interview they did with torrente last year before the shoot out and they said the motors were making more like 300+ hp for the run, not the advertised 180. I think they were using the base 180 hp package, but had it turned up for the run.
    Very good questions. Cuda gave me the phone number of the guy behind the Hellkat project and told me to call him and that he would be happy to answer my questions. I have my doubts that he would want to answer the kinds of "trade secret" engineering questions (my education is in engineering), to a complete stranger over the phone, but Cuda says he's game. So after I get a coherent set of questions lined up, engineering questions, not marketing questions, I'll give the bloke a jingle and see what comes of it. I'll probably include some of the questions you have brought up here, too. And I'll report back here what he said. Including if he tells me to f-off when I start asking technical questions, which I wouldn't blame him for.

    Of course there is no way a 32 foot cat lugging the weight of batteries went 109 mph on 360hp. We already know they overclocked something to get the power they needed. But what I keep scratching my head over is, why do they keep repeating the same, misleading mantra of 180hp E-Motion outboards, again and again and again? One might be able to see if their marketing person who understands no tech, screwed up once, the first time out. But it keeps happening... Either that or Cuda keeps reposting the same old information. :shrugs:

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    Leading leftard climate "brains" have no clue on the CO-2 percentage in our atmosphere.


    In a representative republic, like the USA is, people need to be as informed as possible and as least reliant on shamans who tell them what to believe as possible. Because the elected leadership here essentially responds to what people demand, based on their beliefs. If you are going to demand sacrifices, you should understand why. In the case of global warming, the two primary bits to know, are extraordinarily easy to know and understand. Nobody debates them on either side of the issue, because they are level one facts:

    1) how much of our atmosphere is CO2? (42 one thousandths of one percent or our atmosphere is CO2)
    2) what is the greenhouse effect? (a "blanket" that traps heat)

    Once you know those two things, which are a few seconds of google searching, (which I learned in Australia in 7th grade, and I think American kids do too, somewhere around the same grade level), you can form you own thoughts. That way, when you look to your shamans for advice, at least you aren't going in empty.

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    https://www.facebook.com/raylee.1971...99594270175540

    Shaun said peak 340 hp with mega torque 300 hp normal, same motors as 180 hp version just cranked up to max with controller.

    These motors cost twice what a gas motor at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    Don't you guys listen to the nursing home poster child? He says repeatedly-to all who will listen- "everything's going to be fine". We have nothing to worry about LOL....

    Joe
    Best advice you have ever given me is to put CRUD in the CRAP pile (ignore feature). It took a minute for it to sink in ... but life have been much easier without being led down the road of farther from the truth .. or however the village idiot says it ..

    Now if others wouldn't copy and paste his pizz-poor attempt at copying and pasting the words of others. I wouldn't be subjected to the 8th grade level at which he operates at ..

    Chaz = I was proud to be an American yesterday as our POTUS made yet another brilliantly .... poor mumble fest from his cheat sheet ... what could go wrong ..
    The look on Herzog's face ... priceless

    Daddy, Daddy, Chaz is posting the truth in the general section ....


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    Quote Originally Posted by pcrussell50 View Post
    Very good questions. Cuda gave me the phone number of the guy behind the Hellkat project and told me to call him and that he would be happy to answer my questions. I have my doubts that he would want to answer the kinds of "trade secret" engineering questions (my education is in engineering), to a complete stranger over the phone, but Cuda says he's game. So after I get a coherent set of questions lined up, engineering questions, not marketing questions, I'll give the bloke a jingle and see what comes of it. I'll probably include some of the questions you have brought up here, too. And I'll report back here what he said. Including if he tells me to f-off when I start asking technical questions, which I wouldn't blame him for.

    Of course there is no way a 32 foot cat lugging the weight of batteries went 109 mph on 360hp. We already know they overclocked something to get the power they needed. But what I keep scratching my head over is, why do they keep repeating the same, misleading mantra of 180hp E-Motion outboards, again and again and again? One might be able to see if their marketing person who understands no tech, screwed up once, the first time out. But it keeps happening... Either that or Cuda keeps reposting the same old information. :shrugs:

    ===



    In a representative republic, like the USA is, people need to be as informed as possible and as least reliant on shamans who tell them what to believe as possible. Because the elected leadership here essentially responds to what people demand, based on their beliefs. If you are going to demand sacrifices, you should understand why. In the case of global warming, the two primary bits to know, are extraordinarily easy to know and understand. Nobody debates them on either side of the issue, because they are level one facts:

    1) how much of our atmosphere is CO2? (42 one thousandths of one percent or our atmosphere is CO2)
    2) what is the greenhouse effect? (a "blanket" that traps heat)

    Once you know those two things, which are a few seconds of google searching, (which I learned in Australia in 7th grade, and I think American kids do too, somewhere around the same grade level), you can form you own thoughts. That way, when you look to your shamans for advice, at least you aren't going in empty.

    -Peter
    i look forward to learning what they have to say. I think its a cool project, im just not convinced on the practicality of it yet. Im sure with further advancements in techology, things will change one day, but there is still a ways to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    Best advice you have ever given me is to put CRUD in the CRAP pile (ignore feature). It took a minute for it to sink in ... but life have been much easier without being led down the road of farther from the truth .. or however the village idiot says it ..

    Now if others wouldn't copy and paste his pizz-poor attempt at copying and pasting the words of others. I wouldn't be subjected to the 8th grade level at which he operates at ..

    Chaz = I was proud to be an American yesterday as our POTUS made yet another brilliantly .... poor mumble fest from his cheat sheet ... what could go wrong ..
    The look on Herzog's face ... priceless

    Daddy, Daddy, Chaz is posting the truth in the general section ....



    So you could careless what Greg wants ?

    EGO

    So Gregs text message from Tuesday this week says

    "Those guys don't understand that posting stuff like that can cost me my Google ad account"

    to my knowledge this is his only income?
    We have invented the world; WE see

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