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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    DeTomaso Pantera...Ford engine under the bonnet.
    Under the trunk wasnt it?

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    They were considered & called mid-engine cars. Ford 351 Cleveland 4V(4 Bbl Carb.) closed chamber head motors the first year, 1970...and the highest horsepower/torque, etc. '71-'72 & '73 were basically the same engine with open-chamber(less compression) heads & were then called 351-C Cobra Jets. Same as in the regular Ford production cars, such as the Mustang, Cougar, Torino GT, Ranchero GT, etc.
    Last edited by FUJIMO; 07-30-2018 at 10:22 AM.

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    here's a 1972...

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    another '72. This how they looked from the factory...

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    I had a 351 Cleveland in my 70 Torino. Great motor. The rest of the car not so much. The body and the electrical system had pretty much dissolved by the time I sold it for a song.

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    In those far off long ago days——- Ford USA—- and Cosworth did a ground breaking deal and the DFV was born————- first cars to benefit were Lotus——- engine and chassis were affixed to the suspension and mounted amidships.
    Quick cars could be steered round coRners instead of drifted.
    Jimmy Clarke and Graham Hill went to Indianapolis and pissed all over the opposition in a pair of Lotuses .
    Wasnt Long before manufacturers saw the benefits of a mid engined car——- the Italians were quick to follow——- the rest as they say is HISTORY.

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    I was very fortunate in my life to come across such people as Keith Dickworth—- Mike Coztain and Bill Brown, Ben Rood , Jack Fielder and Gloria on the switchboard at Cosworth Engineering. Malcolm TYRRELL and Ian Hawkins on the shop floor. Never realised how they would become such a huge part of my life .

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    This ones for Rotory John!
    This is is Mike’s Rotory that eats porkies.
    Just telling you what I was told!
    Apparently it’s a three rotor set up——- Tommy, Mikes mechanic, has been racing these for forty years?

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    Don’t look like anyone’s coming out to play today———— maybe the Rotory put folk off—— no telling these. Days——— when even the Pilgrims gone quiet, you know it’s not going to be a good day.
    Did have a couple of thunderstorms during the night——fair bit of lightning, not much thunder but plenty juice came down.
    Walked Indy in the woods around 6:30am—— rain had stopped by then.
    Ah well, another day, another dollar——- as the saying goes !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiewilson View Post
    I was very fortunate in my life to come across such people as Keith Dickworth—- Mike Coztain and Bill Brown, Ben Rood , Jack Fielder and Gloria on the switchboard at Cosworth Engineering. Malcolm TYRRELL and Ian Hawkins on the shop floor. Never realised how they would become such a huge part of my life .
    You been at the single malt again Jackie, I assume your words are slurred and you meant Keith Duckworth, Mike Costain.

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    If you went to Goodwood surely you saw a real rotary.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoBp1zXVCNs

    But the mist clears as a 3 rotor presumably cosmo motor is hardly standard in an RX7.
    Last edited by techteam; 07-31-2018 at 09:28 AM.

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    still here, great thread
    There are Panteras in OZ, the Cleveland was also made in Australia along with the best factory head for that engine
    OZ is also full of hot rotarys and the boatary ( just made that up), where the 2 worlds can meet
    https://www.enginelabs.com/news/vide...eady-for-dyno/

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    Quote Originally Posted by techteam View Post
    If you went to Goodwood surely you saw a real rotary.....
    Yup——- watched the whole shebang—— was impressive——— sounded good and never broke down once!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoBp1zXVCNs

    But the mist clears as a 3 rotor presumably cosmos motor is hardly standard in an RX7.
    maybe for you geeks, but for us mere mortals——- we just look, listen and learn
    Cosmos?—— outer space——don’t suppose anybody gives a flying fart whether it’s standard prod. or a one off Hybrid .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiewilson View Post
    maybe for you geeks, but for us mere mortals——- we just look, listen and learn
    Cosmos?—— outer space——don’t suppose anybody gives a flying fart whether it’s standard prod. or a one off Hybrid .
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Cosmo ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob V View Post
    Back in 1987 after selling off all my boating toys, I bought the three cars that I always admired in earlier years, but could not afford. I called them "my three sons." They were featured in Hemmings Motor New in, I think, June or July of 1988. Match the year to the car.....

    1970.....................

    1971.....................

    1973.....................

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    I'd love to have that 'bird.

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