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    Quote Originally Posted by ron54 View Post
    Jackie...Down near your parish Bogner in fact..... is a place called SQUIRES TOOLS & MATERIALS....if you are not familiar with them already give 'em a google....lots of things to bend headers with just like Mike Randall did (well not quite he used sand).And a bunch
    of other usefull stuff for folks who make models.......

    If you need a catalogue i'll send you mine.. Phill
    I heard of 'em Phil, but I've never been in the shop---------may take a run down there just out of curiosity. Will pick up a catalogue at the same time.

    Got six hours on the COSWORTH lump today-----beginning to take shape, but not enough to post progress plccies.
    On the second set of pipes, did the first set out of alloy but it don't like being bent to a tight ninety degrees so I switched to 6mm solid stainless, a lot kinder to an agriculturalist like me!
    Torn whether to do rocker covers or leave as is in the solid, see how things shape up in the morning.
    The eight intakes do just look the dogs cajones, even got a slight angle there, the block sits a tad high------will offer it up to the stern drive and see what measures to take nearer the finishing line!
    Cant believe I spent a whole day on one object.
    It was going to be just a block with intakes and exhausts---- now I've got ambition------should it be Ford cam covers or COSWORTH ? Am I putting spark plugs in it or what? Do I put the twelve bolts a side through the covers.
    Answer has to be -----just keep at it until it begins to piss me off!
    Been a useful sort of day-----made solid progress-----Bob V will like the original much better once the lumps installed. It does mean I have to bin the fuselage and make one to fit the motor.

    Theres talk of giving Andy Murray a knighthood. -----It's a game for Christs sake-----so he swings a good racket, it's not the same as saving the world, cleaning up the pollution, saving the rain forest, converting Muslims to Christianity and eating pork.
    Cant help but think these people have a bolt loose----no sense of priority-----somebody should tell them, it's a game of tennis -----they never made Macinroe president or Becker the Chancellor-----
    All they did was get it right after 80 years of trying.

    Youre waffling again Wilson, shut up and go to sleep, night all, MYGGWY .j

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    Look how far the engine is tucked under in shot #3. Boats couldn't handle the power at that time.[/QUOTE]

    Looks like a piss poor set up to me-----but then again you didn't get much practice time did you----
    We had good old reliable engines that simply ran and ran and ran, year in, year out, we had time to set a boat up, engine heights, weight distribution, you know, the usual stuff.
    Looks like you just hung it on its bum and prayed

    Looks like Windermere Johnno, wasn't that where Downard stumbled home after all the other Wankels died and all the factory motors failed? A case of last man standing ?

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    Scotti rotary powered

    Look how far the engine is tucked under in shot #3. Boats couldn't handle the power at that time.[/QUOTE]. That Scotti hull was a full fronted race boat made for a V4 Stinger both Downard and Posey were both lightweights.That wouldn't help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiewilson View Post
    could not watch the parade of F1 cars circumnavigating in Abu Dhabi ------I've seen kids on go carts that were more competitive------was almost obscene to peruse.!
    Methinks if Hamilton had led the parade, you would have found it to be a scintillating display of incredible talent. But let the Prussian win 3 races in a row and it's only because Sir Winsalot has packed it in
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x View Post
    Methinks if Hamilton had led the parade, you would have found it to be a scintillating display of incredible talent. But let the Prussian win 3 races in a row and it's only because Sir Winsalot has packed it in
    Maybe true Rich-----you have your favourites----I have mine, whichever way you look at it, F1 has not been a spectacle this year. Millions have switched off. Two horse races were never popular.
    Maybe they should try three or four heats, what do I know except it's been a forgettable season even though Sir Winsalot did take the championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiewilson View Post
    Look how far the engine is tucked under in shot #3. Boats couldn't handle the power at that time.
    Looks like a piss poor set up to me-----but then again you didn't get much practice time did you----
    We had good old reliable engines that simply ran and ran and ran, year in, year out, we had time to set a boat up, engine heights, weight distribution, you know, the usual stuff.
    Looks like you just hung it on its bum and prayed

    Looks like Windermere Johnno, wasn't that where Downard stumbled home after all the other Wankels died and all the factory motors failed? A case of last man standing ?[/QUOTE]
    Jackie:
    I suspect Ford spent a hell of a lot more money and time developing the cosworth motor than OMC ever thought of on the entire rotary program. Seems to me they were into Indy motors, FI motors and at least one boat stern drive with the coswoth engine..
    You got Jack Leek's race motive exactly right. Hang a motor on the back and go race. In all the time I was involved with the race group, I never saw any testing for set up, weight distribution etc. My God man, we ran the same fuel tanks the entire time; whether it was a 20 minute heat or a 3 hr endro. The only testing was prop selection. I had to fight like hell to use 2 snowmobile batteries in place of automotive; a heck of a weight savings.
    Tis Windermere. Who finished second?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEVERINO View Post
    Look how far the engine is tucked under in shot #3. Boats couldn't handle the power at that time.
    . That Scotti hull was a full fronted race boat made for a V4 Stinger both Downard and Posey were both lightweights.That wouldn't help![/QUOTE]
    That was the point I was trying to make. While Merc gave Molinari engines to use for boat development, that wasn't the case with the rotary and Scotti. Most of the boats were old V-4 rigs with a rotary hung on the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotary John View Post
    Looks like a piss poor set up to me-----but then again you didn't get much practice time did you----
    We had good old reliable engines that simply ran and ran and ran, year in, year out, we had time to set a boat up, engine heights, weight distribution, you know, the usual stuff.
    Looks like you just hung it on its bum and prayed

    Looks like Windermere Johnno, wasn't that where Downard stumbled home after all the other Wankels died and all the factory motors failed? A case of last man standing ?
    Jackie:
    I suspect Ford spent a hell of a lot more money and time developing the cosworth motor than OMC ever thought of on the entire rotary program. Seems to me they were into Indy motors, FI motors and at least one boat stern drive with the coswoth engine..
    You got Jack Leek's race motive exactly right. Hang a motor on the back and go race. In all the time I was involved with the race group, I never saw any testing for set up, weight distribution etc. My God man, we ran the same fuel tanks the entire time; whether it was a 20 minute heat or a 3 hr endro. The only testing was prop selection. I had to fight like hell to use 2 snowmobile batteries in place of automotive; a heck of a weight savings.
    Tis Windermere. Who finished second?[/QUOTE]
    Total development budget was £100,000 Johnno, (Less than the cost of a dozen ROTORY cranks)
    After the COSWORTH saw off all the American race engines at Indy, there was the CART series, then the Indy series------lasted a goodly while-------brought some of the closest racing ever seen anywhere?
    Could have been me------I won the ON class, but GG took. My toys away that day. Told you my memory's shot anyway.

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    This is for Jackie. Nobody remembers who came in second.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiewilson View Post
    Maybe true Rich-----you have your favourites----I have mine, whichever way you look at it, F1 has not been a spectacle this year. Millions have switched off. Two horse races were never popular.
    Maybe they should try three or four heats, what do I know except it's been a forgettable season even though Sir Winsalot did take the championship.
    Jackie, I believe this is one of your favorites...

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    Yes?

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    That Mark somebody...guy...fella...

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    Who knew the kid liked water. Who'ed he pick that up from? Any idea?

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    Mark & Steve Kerten

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    Mark was kinda FONDA of these people...

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