Tuff Boat on Long Island

**Greg G** · 09-19-2015, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by baja200merk

That is a 1.71 L2 case with a cone. The case had a ton of issues on bass boats and is no longer available. You can't even buy new gears for it. They were all replaced with M2.

So the L2 is gone forever and now the only hi-po lower unit available from BRP is the "Magnum 2 SLE" case. They may have 6 eyes but at least the whales run and run and run.

**Dirk Pitt** · 09-19-2015, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Greg G

So the L2 is gone forever and now the only hi-po lower unit available from BRP is the "Magnum 2 SLE" case. They may have 6 eyes but at least the whales run and run and run.

what about the g2 gear case

**baja200merk** · 09-20-2015, 09:12 AM

They still make a l2 but on smaller motors only and it's 1.85 like your picture shows they are both .54 gear.

**Dirk Pitt** · 09-23-2015, 10:26 PM

ok update:
got a hydromotive today and finished the changes with a lot of guidance from Kevin, he's the man, that I think will make a biggggggg difference, I spoke with hydromotive during the week and they went up to Tuff with some props they settled on there version of a cleaver a QIV although the blue 21 was running a 31 they didnt have one so he sent me a 30 which they will exchange if it dosent work, I picked up another gear case to test and IPM whos been doing cases for over 35 years did an outstanding job with it it does have a Vne of 200mph lol Mario is the same guy that does most of Wernher Von Browns 225 rebuilds, he also is doing most of the 2.5 rebuilds for the race teams,

**AZMIDLYF** · 09-23-2015, 11:32 PM

Skunk Works busy at work...

**powerabout** · 09-24-2015, 03:47 AM

looks great

**hoser** · 09-24-2015, 05:10 AM

Looks like the same case that Mario did for me when I had the v-8

**LittleCharger** · 09-24-2015, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by Dirk Pitt

ok update:
got a hydromotive today and finished the changes with a lot of guidance from Kevin, he's the man, that I think will make a biggggggg difference, I spoke with hydromotive during the week and they went up to Tuff with some props they settled on there version of a cleaver a QIV although the blue 21 was running a 31 they didnt have one so he sent me a 30 which they will exchange if it dosent work, I picked up another gear case to test and IPM whos been doing cases for over 35 years did an outstanding job with it it does have a Vne of 200mph lol Mario is the same guy that does most of Wernher Von Browns 225 rebuilds, he also is doing most of the 2.5 rebuilds for the race teams,

Todd and Thom are great guys to work with at Hydromotive.

**Greg G** · 09-24-2015, 06:32 AM

I thought the top priority of the project was to maintain your 7 year warranty.

I guess you're going to keep the stock M2 lower unit to put back on the 300 when it goes to your BRP dealer for warranty work.

**Dirk Pitt** · 09-24-2015, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Greg G

I thought the top priority of the project was to maintain your 7 year warranty.

I guess you're going to keep the stock M2 lower unit to put back on the 300 when it goes to your BRP dealer for warranty work.

really priority was to have trouble free boating, which I think I have found with E-tec, the coned gear case was an experiment for knowlege, dont forget this was all new to me, this one says this, this one says that, really without really knowing, except for kevin, who has hands on experience with the white motors, now for sure by the end of this month I will have ringed out every possible senario with these motors, the bottom line in what Im seeing is that this boat with that motor may tickle 92mph, thats it, Tuff boat out of the factory is not a open bay type of boat without a lot of changes, ie, cg, weight distribution, etc, the boat will have to give up the big numbers for being stable and pretictable in the waters in which we are used to here on L.I., to take a Tuff out of the factory with 18" of setback, and I dont care black or white, will never work in our environment.... the boat needs a lot of tweeking to make it a predictable handing boat, you cant run a 21' bow light boat in a 2' foot chop with any kind of wind blowing, Ive taken the boat to a point to what I felt was just about at the envelope of safe prudent operation, these videos of the Blue Tuff running on the drain plug, really try that on the North Shore, I promise you, you will be swimming, again this is what I felt in my seat of the pants so to speak,hosestly speaking outside of a few things comparing Merc to E-tec in the performance arena, in my estimation mercury blows e-tec away, I said this from day one this was a decision I made to go white, am i totally happy? no, am i totally disapointed ? no, theres always a trade off and comprimise, I promised to be totally honest,and i think I am.....

**baja200merk** · 09-24-2015, 02:44 PM

I still think it will go 95 with the motor up On a calm day.

**Dirk Pitt** · 09-24-2015, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by baja200merk

I still think it will go 95 with the motor up On a calm day.

kev how high can I go its not a cat or a tunnal boat

**Greg G** · 09-24-2015, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by baja200merk

I still think it will go 95 with the motor up On a calm day.

I kinda agree.

BajaBag the side water inlets, tap (for fine threads) and temporarily close with round top screws the top two of the six nose cone inlets and raise the prop shaft to 1/2" above that 7.5" wide pad you have and you will do 95mph on GPS with the right 15" or larger wheel, the rear seat installed, and 7 years of trouble free warranty.