Tuff Boat on Long Island

[Dirk Pitt]

Billy now go call joey a liar, who set your boat up billy you? everything about your boat came out of his shop, maybe you want to take credit for it too

[Dirk Pitt]

Billy now go call joey a liar

he a liar Im a liar were just jerk offs

[Dirk Pitt]

Sorry but this will be my last one.... go****urself

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah love it, a police officer should never speak like that joseph omg how unprofessional shamefull boys and girls thats new yorks finest on a public forum boy whats this world coming to, I love guys that can dish it out but when the worm turns they resort to language like that, just an indication of what people are made off.......maybe he can tell us about his boat building company that was going to build boats better then Skater

[Dirk Pitt]

ok back to the tuff I think high 90's with etec is possible, I tried the 33 bblades with success, and today i recieved the 32 promax labbed so im confident Ill see some speed gain I thought i could win some money and pay for it but guess not, some people are not as stupid as they talk

[progression22]

Joe you dont need any whitness's yes I said those things, Im not saying I didnt, so whats your point, are you trying to make me look like a liar? the truth is you took a very fast boat and yes that boat ran 102, and yes it ran over 95 with two people and yes my 21 ran 94 but in the end yes all you do is **** things up including that yellow boat

Yep coming from a compulsive liar or complete bs artist. Cant tell the difference. I can take it as much as I dish it, but you my friend crossed the line with some of ur comments. I never said I was gonna to build a boat better then skater, we were having fun building them then lost interest. So when u will grow a set or have the capability to run me bridge to bridge let me know cause u cant shut me up. Notice how I only stir the pot with guy are full of crap.

[Dirk Pitt]

Yep coming from a compulsive liar or complete bs artist. Cant tell the difference. I can take it as much as I dish it, but you my friend crossed the line with some of ur comments. I never said I was gonna to build a boat better then skater, we were having fun building them then lost interest. So when u will grow a set or have the capability to run me bridge to bridge let me know cause u cant shut me up. Notice how I only stir the pot with guy are full of crap.

can you please keep your word just one time, start your own thread "P22 boat building" 101 and rigging because your the best and Im sure you can teach us all something
Crossed the line
? you invented crossing the line!!!!! like I said you have never contrubuted one good thing to this board just drama

[Dirk Pitt]

Billy now go call joey a liar, who set your boat up billy you? everything about your boat came out of his shop, maybe you want to take credit for it too

i post this again for the benifit of you and Hoser crossed the line? you have some nerve,

[Dirk Pitt]

I have one set of solid mounts and the other not. Keeps the reverberation to a min that way. If your hull is Balanced on the money you can take your hands off the wheel at wot. My hull is considered one of the worst for chine walk but experimenting with counter weights and turning my seat base side ways to slide it over more to the centre has resulted in her driving like a dream. The seat base slide allowed me to take out counter and use my own weight to off set me at the helm. it sounds like in the last page when you say your always bumping the wheel to the left you need more counter weight on the port side gunnel's. Judging buy the hulls attitude at speed directly across from you might be the best spot. Take 40lbs of dumbbells out with you on a calm day leave 20 in the center of the hull some how and see what happens. If you need the other 20 put it there and see. you know when your balanced right when you dont need to bump it to the left any more. it will feel balanced and equal movement to either side. I find most people dont spend enough time doing this and they just get used to the hull listing and counter steer. Im the only Allison guy I know of without full solid mounts and mine flys straight with zero effort. If it doesnt its because of wind or to many cheese burgers for lunch..

Ive also experimented with having a tiny bit more pad on the one side to offset weight and prop torque. Thats another story in its self. also I know some guys stream line the case on the starboard side to help with prop bite and torque. Lots of little things. counter weight works best and is the simplest way to get her to fly true. Even 5 lbs makes a difference when your high on the pad. Try rideing a bike with a 5lb dumbell hanging off your side. You will notice the ballance difference. fuel sloshing around ect... Theres alot of hull out of the water balancing on a very small section.

thank you for sending that Allison file,I guess that expert is wrong too with adding weight,to different parts of a boat ridding on a pad, nobody knows better than the famous, all knowing, the best rigger, the best boat builder, the best boat driver known to man kind, boy say that 5 times fast

[hoser]

Pitt you have to slow down your to old to carry on like this

funny thing Joey didn't rig my boat it was jay that put it together in 86
then it Eric from kids marine when it had the v-8
then it was willy who but on the x
yes it was Joey that worked on the motor after I stuck a piston
and had to repair it a few times after because of reasons that you don't need to know

One other thing
my boat did run 97 mph
it was Joey driving it on a winter day after he repaired the motor for the 3rd time
I have a picture of the gps at work
prof of the speed was your boy Joey, your boy jerry and myself
sorry you weren't there you must of been busy on the screamandfly that day

[Superbender]

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves,if either of you knew everything clearly you would know that my wife said I know everything,therefore I trump both of you,now kiss and make up.

[RotorHead]

Hello Joe,

I have not been on here for quite some time, so I hope you don't mind me responding to your private message in open forum.

My boat is #2 and is the heaviest of all Tuffs. When Mark and I laid it up in 2003, I insisted on an extra layer of structural cloth on either side of the core.


Here are the set up specifics, as it ran 102 MPH:
Boat weight – 2280 lbs with fuel, oil and life jackets etc.
Engine – Stock 300 X
Gearcase – sporty 1.75
Setback – my solid-cast swim step 12" plus the Detwiler jack plate 6" - total 18"
Prop – 32" pitch Bravo
Steering – Seastar (Standard factory ratio)
Motor height – bottom of pad even with bottom of gear case


Subjectively; the boat made 4 passes in both directions and yielded roughly the same number each time. Handling characteristics were not ideal. The large diameter blade wanted to walk the boat to the right on acceleration and wanted to pass you on the left on deceleration. In my humble opinion, the authority of the skeg is too small for a large diameter prop to be surfacing.


The boat needs to be aired out and The "wetted" surface reduced to a minimum. Flight attitude as close as possible to 3° nose up with minimal trim utilized that's the balance that is critical and hence the 18" of setback. Clearly this set up is not conducive for big wave jumping. On occasion when I've had the opportunity to play in some moderate swells, The transom falls out of the sky midflight. That is the reason Mark offers the ballast tank as an option.


On a personal note, Mark is my friend and a pillar of morality! I don't know of a finer human being. If there was some misunderstanding during your business dealings, it would be due to lack of research. Mark is incapable of deception and it is with his consent that I write this.

Finally, as a fun fact my boat has turned into a family hauler, I have replaced the X with an XS, the sporty has 1.62 gears in it and my every day prop is a 26" Trophy. With my entire family and all the neighbors kids it runs 90.


Here's a picture of my 13-year-old Tuff 21, this year, with the new motor.


Good luck!

[RADER]

​as the prop turns!

[hoser]

That's rite Mario's hands weren't my boat also

[Dirk Pitt]

​as the prop turns!

That's rite Mario's hands weren't my boat also

so Joey drove your boat @ 97mph, nice job joey as usual

[whipper]

Glad the file could be useful.