BEST V-bottom under 20-feet with a single OB! GO!!!

**Tango** · 08-10-2025, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by CUDA

Center consoles have been the Rage for years now,

I've always like the 21 ft Paramount's

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...7-48d9ef7faebc

Looking at that link... WTF is wrong with trailer manufacturers to think ANYONE would ever see those taillights before putting the skeg through the hood of their car? Anyone in a truck would never see them... and just WOW!!!

I appreciate all the feedback... I am about to post an order on four Mercury V12 600hp, two V10 425hp outboards with all the harnesses, helm controls and thinking of sticking a 15" mid 300R in there for myself. So do I build a new toy or just buy something to turn-it-up a few notches!!??

**OnPad** · 08-10-2025, 05:18 PM

Bullet, and Ballistic also make 20' hulls.

**Lake X Kid** · 08-10-2025, 07:47 PM

Here is a Benchmark comparison for a shorter hull length boat.

**Lake X Kid** · 08-10-2025, 07:57 PM

Impressive run to getting to the fishing hole First.

**RiverRat71** · 08-10-2025, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Lake X Kid

Impressive run to getting to the fishing hole First.

Hard to beat a Bullet or Allison with some pire on the back. Once that boy got outside your wake he was gone! Good stuff. RR

**aj06bolt12r** · 08-11-2025, 06:11 AM

I might be biased but on a blue collar budget for a good all arounder 20ft boat its really hard to beat an Allison XB03 or Grandsport... Pretty fast for a V-bottom, lots of storage, fantastic wind protection. Room for 5 PPL if you put them 3 wide in the back. Don't have to worry about where you step on the boat. Fantastic build quality. Ect... The 300R is a little heavy for them but ppl have done it and the 15" will get that center of gravity down..

You can also get an XB21 Allison with the same Pro Sport console design as the XB03 so you keep that fantastic wind protection and the 300R is a great match for that hull.

Now no offense, but it looks like you have a few pennies to rub together... So if I had your kind of money I'd be ordering a new Tuff 25 to hang that 15" 300R on... I wouldn't think twice.

**Dain** · 08-11-2025, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by aj06bolt12r

I might be biased but on a blue collar budget for a good all arounder 20ft boat its really hard to beat an Allison XB03 or Grandsport... Pretty fast for a V-bottom, lots of storage, fantastic wind protection. Room for 5 PPL if you put them 3 wide in the back. Don't have to worry about where you step on the boat. Fantastic build quality. Ect... The 300R is a little heavy for them but ppl have done it and the 15" will get that center of gravity down..

You can also get an XB21 Allison with the same Pro Sport console design as the XB03 so you keep that fantastic wind protection and the 300R is a great match for that hull.

Now no offense, but it looks like you have a few pennies to rub together... So if I had your kind of money I'd be ordering a new Tuff 25 to hang that 15" 300R on... I wouldn't think twice.

Stretching the blue collar budget for a grand sport lol, but yea to me that's the obtainable holy grail pad bottom boat.

**aj06bolt12r** · 08-11-2025, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Dain

Stretching the blue collar budget for a grand sport lol, but yea to me that's the obtainable holy grail pad bottom boat.

Oh I hear what your saying there.. But comparatively speaking.. You can get a Grandsport with a nice Promax and a sporty as a turn key package for less than the cost of a new 15” 300R or 15” 200R for that matter by itself.

**Dain** · 08-11-2025, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by aj06bolt12r

Oh I hear what your saying there.. But comparatively speaking.. You can get a Grandsport with a nice Promax and a sporty as a turn key package for less than the cost of a new 15” 300R or 15” 200R for that matter by itself.

You definitely have a point there. When OP started the thread I thought that was about the direction this would go then I started reading a bit further lol.

**pcrussell50** · 08-11-2025, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Dain

You definitely have a point there. When OP started the thread I thought that was about the direction this would go then I started reading a bit further lol.

Agree. That confused me. The discussion went from "under 20 feet", to gigantic heavy motors that no under-20-footer would have a hope of floating.

-Peter

**Dain** · 08-11-2025, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by pcrussell50

Agree. That confused me. The discussion went from "under 20 feet", to gigantic heavy motors that no under-20-footer would have a hope of floating.

-Peter

Got to be some sarcasm floating around somewhere in that post about placing an order lol.

**CUDA** · 08-11-2025, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by pcrussell50

Agree. That confused me. The discussion went from "under 20 feet", to gigantic heavy motors that no under-20-footer would have a hope of floating.

-Peter

I appreciate all the feedback... I am about to post an order on four Mercury V12 600hp, two V10 425hp outboards with all the harnesses, helm controls and thinking of sticking a 15" mid 300R in there for myself. So do I build a new toy or just buy something to turn-it-up a few notches!!??
David "Tango" Wilks

**XstreamVking** · 08-11-2025, 04:26 PM

Never met "Tango" but for some reason I wasn't thinking he was a "small motor is good enough" guy..

**ZiemerSTV** · 08-11-2025, 05:47 PM

Allison is one hell of a Great V Bottom. Ziemer, Jr. had a Grand Sport that ran 108 with a stock 260.

**pcrussell50** · 08-11-2025, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by ZiemerSTV

Allison is one hell of a Great V Bottom. Ziemer, Jr. had a Grand Sport that ran 108 with a stock 260.

Does anyone know if Darris had access to any engineering tools, like CFD or high speed water tanks? Or was he just a natural like Kelly Johnson.

-Peter