Tuff Boat on Long Island

**Dirk Pitt** · 08-04-2015, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by gm250

I like thinking outside the box but I would feel more comfortable dealing with a dealer. warrenty is great fuel economy makes a great package . speed will come the big three are not far off from each other . Yamaha has ran hard for many years now and proved they can run hard at the top

who says Im not dealing with a dealer?

**Dirk Pitt** · 08-04-2015, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by dnelson964

Did someone say......

I think that's a good goal...

i was thinking this lol

**CharlieN** · 08-04-2015, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by Dirk Pitt

i was thinking this lol

I like your thinking.

**dnelson964** · 08-04-2015, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dirk Pitt

i was thinking this lol

I hear ya, would be real nice.......but then "as Roy Scheider said " were gonna need a bigger motor".

Easier to just try something else like, Oh.....perfecting wheelie's ?

**RBT** · 08-04-2015, 06:57 AM

The first tuff, is also one if if not the heaviest tuff with a 300x runs over 100 and has since it was built, the 106 mph boat doesn't have a race hatch. He adds weight
to get it to speed, to offset the driver weight.

**progression22** · 08-04-2015, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Dirk Pitt

i was thinking this lol

Who makes that speedo?

**evinrudejohnson** · 08-04-2015, 07:08 AM

Wow can't wait to see this out there . love the color !

**Greg G** · 08-04-2015, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by RBT

The first tuff, is also one if if not the heaviest tuff with a 300x runs over 100 and has since it was built, the 106 mph boat doesn't have a race hatch. He adds weight
to get it to speed, to offset the driver weight.

I like facts, which you are always supplying RBT. When you mention that the northern Tuff 21 with the stock 300XS has run 106mph without a race hatch, that's darn impressive.

There is a lot of talk about weight on this thread but until the Long Island Tuff 21 goes onto the scale for a true digital weight reading it's just talk with no start point. I have a 2500lb digital scale I use but it's up in Syracuse at the moment. Very handy device and accurate as hell. I'd be really surprised for example if the rear bench seat on the Long Island Tuff weighs even 105lbs. It's only 60" long I suspect. That bench you could just throw on any bathroom scale to see. Then you would know if removing 100lbs gains 1mph in top speed as has been mentioned on this site several times over the years. Cool project overall.

**Greg G** · 08-04-2015, 07:59 AM

There is a shop in the Southwest that specializes in infusion shells and high end interiors. They do a fair number of copters to the high net worth folks. They could tell you exactly what the rear bench could be dropped down to and would re-use the McKnight upholstery which is very tasteful.

**dnelson964** · 08-04-2015, 08:29 AM

21' Superboat had sectioned seat panels in ..... best way to keep it light ! JC had some very good ideas that bear out still today.

**RobF** · 08-04-2015, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by progression22

Who makes that speedo?

Livorsi data tach, real nice piece if you can find one

**RobF** · 08-04-2015, 08:34 AM

21 super the back seat is obviously part of the liner, so just 2 cushions sitting on them. Originally plywood now you can make it with PVC board. The front bucket shells cant be more than 20lbs each
Balsa care in the majority of the floor with plywood where the seats mount.

Im thinking the extra weight of the seats in the Tuff offset the weight savings from no inner liner. Hopefully joe will weight the boat and knowing him he will not stop messing with the boat trying to extract every MPH he can out of it

**CharlieN** · 08-04-2015, 08:49 AM

Talk of weights has me thinking about bringing a set of scales to the Romp next summer.
I could set up at the launch so everyone can run their trailer on them loaded then empty. This can give the weights at 3 points then with a bit of math everyone can see what their boat is side to side and fore aft. The fuel load can be worked out mathematically.

**dnelson964** · 08-04-2015, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by RobF

21 super the back seat is obviously part of the liner, so just 2 cushions sitting on them. Originally plywood now you can make it with PVC board. The front bucket shells cant be more than 20lbs each
Balsa care in the majority of the floor with plywood where the seats mount.

Im thinking the extra weight of the seats in the Tuff offset the weight savings from no inner liner. Hopefully joe will weight the boat and knowing him he will not stop messing with the boat trying to extract every MPH he can out of it

Rob he's coming to you already...I say you just do the conversion and be done with it.