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    Quote Originally Posted by CLIMAX View Post
    Thanks guys, I am sure monty will chime in the top bearing is an all new piece he just tooled
    I doubt that Gordan (Monty) will post much if anything at all. He like most of the top boat/Motor builders dont say much on here. They let their work speak for itself I have no doubt His engines will make this happen if its possible. Still say it would be awsome to have both Merc and OMC show what they can do
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    Thanks I do understand, Same reason I do not get on. Most of my good friends are at the top with merc. And yes as Todd knows it is a legal thing. Break the record everyone is safe ect. Then we will come aboard. Too little too late. I have deigned an built since 1976 and this is most likely my last post. Thanks

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    I have pictures of the billet upper carrier (and the motor going to Tx ) so those issue appears to have been solved. Don't think I'm allowed to post them though or I will be exterminated.
    Monty does not post on here. He has zero patience for games.
    Last time at his shop, he told me they were making 75 HP's per hole, reliably, w/no juice.
    So...., 6 x 75 = 450. or better yet, 8 x 75 = 600. Now add the blue bottle.
    I think it's safe to assume these are very conservative #'s based on the several yr old video on youtube of the bass boat OMC V-6 Dave B. had on the dyno @ 450+ HP's on pump gas
    Rumors were his Pro Gas motor was making 573 on the same dyno. Again, no juice.

    It appears that there are at least a couple of OMC guys w/their act together that chose (not) to read/ignore the banter (and not post) and know what they know

    Tim, not sure what you meant?
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


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    Does Gordan have a dyno?
    Rob Lankford

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    Gordan told me he does not have a dyno, but has used someone's dyno for testing the V-6's on, so this is where they came up with the 75 hp per hole for the V-8. Also, I have been under the assumption that the next boat Dan was building was for 1/4 mile use only, not kilo's. I was to get the next boat, but it was put off so Rick George could get his together. Now that Rick has announced he is attempting the kilo, my team and I are sitting here debating whether to delete this thread and everything we do stays in house for fear of our work being copied. This also is a game changer and I am not sure how to handle it. We really wanted to post the start to finish of this project, but now this has turned into a competition, I don't think it is something we should be sharing with the competitor. I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerotech View Post
    Gordan told me he does not have a dyno, but has used someone's dyno for testing the V-6's on, so this is where they came up with the 75 hp per hole for the V-8. Also, I have been under the assumption that the next boat Dan was building was for 1/4 mile use only, not kilo's. I was to get the next boat, but it was put off so Rick George could get his together. Now that Rick has announced he is attempting the kilo, my team and I are sitting here debating whether to delete this thread and everything we do stays in house for fear of our work being copied. This also is a game changer and I am not sure how to handle it. We really wanted to post the start to finish of this project, but now this has turned into a competition, I don't think it is something we should be sharing with the competitor. I don't know.
    I can respect and totaly understand your dilema. I would be pissed if I were you too. Your openness and willingness to share this with us is awsome. I think its a shame Dan has put you off and lied to you like this about your boat and the one hes doing for Rick. Be careful what you say and maybe you could keep the thread up. I know for a fact youve already gained tons of fans and support through this thread and your efforts. I wish you all the best of luck and I hope you beat them to the punch. Dont rush but after this new situation im rooting for you. I dont like that sneaky schit!
    Rob Lankford

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    Previous owned boats worth mentioning

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    1984 20' Action Marine 2.5 200
    1983 17' Hydrostream V-King 2.4 Bridgeport
    2003 LPB STV RR COPY 2.5 280 /300 Drag
    2005 LPB STV RR COPY 2.5 280
    2005 Baja 23 Outlaw 6.2 Mercruiser
    2006 FTP Quarter Shot T3 Race 2.5 200 CARB/2.5 225 PROMAX
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerotech View Post
    We really wanted to post the start to finish of this project, but now this has turned into a competition, I don't think it is something we should be sharing with the competitor. I don't know.
    Wow. Hate reading this. Have say I can sure understand though.
    Thing of it is, more than one team per class goes to Bonneville for Speed Weeks every year
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aerotech View Post
    This also is a game changer and I am not sure how to handle it. We really wanted to post the start to finish of this project, but now this has turned into a competition, I don't think it is something we should be sharing with the competitor. I don't know.
    F*** it! Charge after it - the both of you! Having second thoughts is the same as having doubt. No room for that. One of you will inevitably get there first, the question is " Does the bar get set?" or " Does someone go from hero to zero " in the blink of an eye?
    What better than two different camps trying to go after the same goal. Carry on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    Thing of it is, more than one team per class goes to Bonneville for Speed Weeks every year
    I agree however they dont post on the internet all of what they are doing to build the record holding entry
    Rob Lankford

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    1984 20' Action Marine 2.5 200
    1983 17' Hydrostream V-King 2.4 Bridgeport
    2003 LPB STV RR COPY 2.5 280 /300 Drag
    2005 LPB STV RR COPY 2.5 280
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Shot Merc View Post
    I agree however they dont post on the internet all of what they are doing to build the record holding entry
    Agree w/what your saying but some of them do. Hot Rod magazine does a "Drag Week" contest and the guys go on line and talk **** all the way through.
    The idea of his boat builder pulling his leg about what he was doing though........, and learning of another team in process........., and (as you say) reading all of his plans on here......, might be a tough one to get past for me.
    Hate to see aerotech stop posting his views but sure understand if he does.

    Wait, did we just agree Rob ?
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


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    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam McKeon View Post
    F*** it! Charge after it - the both of you! Having second thoughts is the same as having doubt. No room for that. One of you will inevitably get there first, the question is " Does the bar get set?" or " Does someone go from hero to zero " in the blink of an eye?
    What better than two different camps trying to go after the same goal. Carry on
    We won't be stopping that is for sure. Just might be tightening up on how much info and pics we release. I have everything to put this boat together other than the rudder. I have power if I need to rush things along quicker, but won't be crediting the OEM for it. I have built a custom engine cowl and will not give any recognition to any of the engine manufactures unless they help. Probably leak it to you guys for bragging purposes. Still looking for good motors though. I know I am going to need an arsenal of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerotech View Post
    We won't be stopping that is for sure. Just might be tightening up on how much info and pics we release. I have everything to put this boat together other than the rudder. I have power if I need to rush things along quicker, but won't be crediting the OEM for it. I have built a custom engine cowl and will not give any recognition to any of the engine manufactures unless they help. Probably leak it to you guys for bragging purposes. Still looking for good motors though. I know I am going to need an arsenal of them.
    Yes sir! There you go!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    Wait, did we just agree Rob ?
    Gary we agree about a lot of things. Probably more than you realize
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    1984 20' Action Marine 2.5 200
    1983 17' Hydrostream V-King 2.4 Bridgeport
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    2005 LPB STV RR COPY 2.5 280
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    Hey, maybe one of you can help me out. I have a new style 12" Champ midsection. I have only one and I do not want to use it on this boat unless. I need it for a F1 boat project. If anyone out there can help me locate a true, not cut down Mercury 12" mid, I would really appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerotech View Post
    Hey, maybe one of you can help me out. I have a new style 12" Champ midsection. I have only one and I do not want to use it on this boat unless. I need it for a F1 boat project. If anyone out there can help me locate a true, not cut down Mercury 12" mid, I would really appreciate it.
    i would want a factory brand new one myself and i would maybe even still xray that bad boy to boot i know of a few ill pass on the info that your looking

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