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    So I will take it that your answers are ......

    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    .......Contrary to popular belief they were both very good friends of mine, ....... I think this was '94---so Bob would be based in Oshberg and probably wasn't there ..... if memory serves me right.
    Was that #3..... yes, I kinda think that might be the 3rd one .... I'm kinda positive it might be!

    Who built that boat .....I didn't tell you what kind of hull it is cause I don't remember(quit buggin' me bout that!)

    How many boats raced in the R3 ..... heavens, I must have that written down somewhere.

    Were they all Coswoth/MerCrusier..... I think all of mine were, maybe?

    Why are outboards in most of the photos ..... cause they're boats and they look better in the water than on the trailer.

    What kind of speeds did they run ..... don't know, but I'm sure it was over 60. I know that because Garbrecht told me that your eyes will water at speeds over 60 and my eyes always watered when I drove that boat.

    Okay then Sir Jackie, thanks for all of the info. I imagine the troops are just thrilled learning all of that super secret stuff about racing in Europe in the R3 class!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x View Post
    Why does the background appear to be from 1933?
    Looks the same now as it did then and in 1833-----1933---and will still be the same in 2033---it's called "ENGLISH HERITAGE " dear boy.

    You "COLONIALS" still have a while to wait before you get bragging rights to history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willabee View Post
    Was that #3..... yes, I kinda think that might be the 3rd one .... I'm kinda positive it might be!

    Who built that boat .....I didn't tell you what kind of hull it is cause I don't remember(quit buggin' me bout that!)

    How many boats raced in the R3 ..... heavens, I must have that written down somewhere.

    Were they all Coswoth/MerCrusier..... I think all of mine were, maybe?

    Why are outboards in most of the photos ..... cause they're boats and they look better in the water than on the trailer.

    What kind of speeds did they run ..... don't know, but I'm sure it was over 60. I know that because Garbrecht told me that your eyes will water at speeds over 60 and my eyes always watered when I drove that boat.

    Okay then Sir Jackie, thanks for all of the info. I imagine the troops are just thrilled learning all of that super secret stuff about racing in Europe in the R3 class!
    Sir Jackie is spelt with a capital "C".

    What kind of a fella asks the questions and then gives the answers.

    Even i have been known to strap a black thingy on the transom and tootle round the pond , [just a little].

    Speeds????? just fast enough to to finish in front [quite a lot of the time-----not always------i had to consider other competitors]

    Modesty forbids me any further comments !!!!!!!!!! Ta-Ta William.

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    Oulton broad 1976

    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    William, you have to remember Oulton broad was Bob and Tom's own playground----they were both factory drivers --- and this was their home club ---------and one of the biggest kicks i used to get , was mixing it with those two. They were very big fish in a tiny pond at Oulton.
    Contrary to popular belief they were both very good friends of mine, Chas Shooter who was my mechanic and great friend was their crew chief after i quit racing two liters.
    Number 5 is Roger Jenkins , the Jonrood is NELLY GREG, me in the number 4 , and Percy in the number 10, I think this was '94---so Bob would be based in Oshberg and probably wasn't there.
    You had about 3 hours to get the racing over and done with before the tide went out at a rapid rate of knots.
    Meetings were either every other thursday, afternoon or evening if memory serves me right.
    Great little club----seeped in powerboat racing history----specially hydros.
    Loved racing there.
    Jackie i would say this race is 1976 the no 5 boat is not Rodger Jenkins he was still racing OMC 3cyls out of Brugge it is Peter Thorneywork who was the no 1( ON ) driver at OMC Brugge when Jim Wagner ran European Racing he had Penthouse Rizzla as sponsors`he was driving a 15ft sprint Cougar cat i think only 2 were ever made Alfi Bullen had the other one.I would say this little cougar was the only cat around that could outrun the JPS Molinaris that Bob and Tom ran even with the T3 Mercury injected engines but on sprint circuits ONLY?Jackie i can remember at Chasewater that same year even though you were into inboards you drove a new Hodges cat powered by a Mercury 2 litre outboard engine?

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    R3 #4 .....

    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    .....What kind of a fella asks the questions and then gives the answers......
    What did you want me to do, I've been askin' the questions as I was postin' the pics but got no answers.

    Moving along ..... if there is one, I don't think I have any photos of R3 #4. The last I/O I have is the OZ "outboard". How many times did you run it against the factory race teams and with what kind of results? Did you run it in 76 & 77 in Europe and 78 at Parker? What did Garbrecht and Leek really say to you the first time they saw it was entered? What prompted you to bring that rig all the way to Arizona?




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    Quote Originally Posted by STEVERINO View Post
    Jackie i would say this race is 1976 the no 5 boat is not Rodger Jenkins he was still racing OMC 3cyls out of Brugge it is Peter Thorneywork who was the no 1( ON ) driver at OMC Brugge when Jim Wagner ran European Racing he had Penthouse Rizzla as sponsors`he was driving a 15ft sprint Cougar cat i think only 2 were ever made Alfi Bullen had the other one.I would say this little cougar was the only cat around that could outrun the JPS Molinaris that Bob and Tom ran even with the T3 Mercury injected engines but on sprint circuits ONLY?Jackie i can remember at Chasewater that same year even though you were into inboards you drove a new Hodges cat powered by a Mercury 2 litre outboard engine?
    You are wrong Stevers !!!!!!!!! Definitely was NOT '76-----that was the last year i raced the 2 liter Cosworth---and that was the all wood finish Hodges--------Bill Brown sent the previous boat to the bottom of lake windermere when he ran over the top of me and cut the boat in half. [That's the one i ran at Oulten,----the one in the picture].
    The boat i ran at Chase was my friend Adam Laszczar's Yellow Hodges-----he was waiting to get his super licence and wanted to see the boat run. John Nicholson bought that boat.
    If i remember rightly---i think i won that race at Oulton-------I have a first place trophy from the club from around that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willabee View Post
    What did you want me to do, I've been askin' the questions as I was postin' the pics but got no answers.

    Moving along ..... if there is one, I don't think I have any photos of R3 #4. The last I/O I have is the OZ "outboard". How many times did you run it against the factory race teams and with what kind of results? Did you run it in 76 & 77 in Europe and 78 at Parker? What did Garbrecht and Leek really say to you the first time they saw it was entered? What prompted you to bring that rig all the way to Arizona?



    I only ran the Oz boat from June to September of 1977,
    Ran 8 races in all.
    The first was bristol against a full contingent of factory drivers including Molinari Seebold ,Hering, Bentz Jenkins, Spalding ,Percival, Bullen,-----they were all there-----Finished fifth overall-----disappointing from my point of view as i had the boat to do it. My excuse is -----i don't have an excuse----i should have made history. Led the first heat from the gun and then spun out at the bottom turn. The wing fixings came adrift in the second heat , and the boat was not set up to run without it in the third.

    Leek was spitting feathers when he knew it was quick, and GG and him were filing protests left right and centre,Was fun to see him so damn cross.

    Second race was the 3 hour DUCHESS OF YORK trophy race. Highly prestigious race, and run over two x one and a half hour heats that year. It was generally a 100 mile race but for some reason they changed the format that year.

    The only competition i had was from ALFIE BULLEN, who had a big disadvantage due to weighing in at over 300 lbs, he was not usually a problem, but had really got his act together and was stonking around the course.

    Tom and Bob were very subdued and not really "on the Pace".


    Tracked Alfie for an hour and then put the clog down and lapped him in the first session.
    Buggered off into the long distance the next session and was just happy to let the boat run loose.
    Won that race hands down----but not much opposition.
    Next race was Champion Of Champions at Fairford ----sounds grander that it actually was -----easy win again.
    Next race was Amsterdam----did not have Chas as Pit man and got a hole punched below the water line before the start, took a while to get off the mark due to an awful lot of liquid in the right sponson. Once i got trecking the hole acted as a self bailer and i took the lead after an hour.
    Got back to the pits and the back end started to drag and the boys from Cosworth did not have the same ability as Chas to get me out of trouble -----Dick Scammell jumped on the boat and attached the slings and we made the crane but missed the hook----fatal-- too much water so i had to kill the motor as water would have made her puke.
    Never made the second heat ----but i kept this from Rotory John as it would have made his day.
    Did two more nationals [WON THEM BOTH] but it was like taking a Howitzer to a fist fight and that was the end of the "COSWORTH EXERCISE"
    Then out of the blue ---BEDFORD DAVY called and asked if i would take the boat to Parker----i said it was way too late and we would never get it shipped in time------he said how 'bout if i pay for it to be air freighted ?????? Talked to Duckworth and he agreed ----
    That's how come we arrived at Parker totally unprepared with an untried marathon clubfoot and an unknown prop that was an abject failure, had to call on a lot of people to get us out of trouble on that trip.
    Finished up about like the Wankels 6 out of eight with a fifth and a sixth----and never once a breakdown.

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    file://localhost/Users/jackwilson/Desktop/P1000627.JPGfile://localhost/Users/jackwilson/Desktop/P1000624.JPGfile://localhost/Users/jackwilson/Desktop/P1000627.JP William---i don't know if this will work
    Just finished a "PUFFIN BILLY" called Willabee----hope you can see it.
    If not ,i will get my grandson to post it for me

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    Hi jackie

    you also did the oz world sprints that year at chasewater when molinari's boat exploded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert j garner View Post
    Hi jackie

    you also did the oz world sprints that year at chasewater when molinari's boat exploded.
    Hi Robert how's Jim doing these days----- has to be forty years since I last saw him, tell him I said hello.
    Had forgotten that particular event.
    Duckworth was not sure he had backed the right horse, and asked Billy if he would try the boat.
    Billy took it around Chasewater, but couldn't run any quicker than me, which made me feel a whole lot better.
    Farted around a lot, but never managed to get the rig really competitive ----- twelve lap sprint races with a 20' boat, was not the best event I ever ran.
    Think I finished fourth overall , but got the rig running much better in time for the "Duchess".
    will have to revise the overall total to five out of nine.

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    Milesmaster Cosworth 2.0litre inboard at Bristol 1976

    Quote Originally Posted by willabee View Post
    Lighten up on the meds man, you're starting to scare me!

    So what's the story on the #15 Venus?
    Jackies no 15 Milesmaster (VENUS) 2.0 litre inboard can be seen in Action Racing at the 1976 Bristol Grand Prix on You Tube.If you GOOGLE Jackie Wilson powerboat racing driver look for Bristol powerboat race in the 70s Pt 2 this race went out live in the UK on World of Sport and had Murrey Walker the top car racing sports commentator. In the camera shot of all the boats coming down to the bottom buoy see if you agree what no boat is leading this race`Murrey Walker says its no 9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEVERINO View Post
    Jackies no 15 Milesmaster (VENUS) 2.0 litre inboard can be seen in Action Racing at the 1976 Bristol Grand Prix on You Tube.If you GOOGLE Jackie Wilson powerboat racing driver look for Bristol powerboat race in the 70s Pt 2 this race went out live in the UK on World of Sport and had Murrey Walker the top car racing sports commentator. In the camera shot of all the boats coming down to the bottom buoy see if you agree what no boat is leading this race`Murrey Walker says its no 9?
    I never raced Venus at Bristol, not one of my favourite courses, did not race any of the early races as I thought the place was an accident waiting to happen.
    First time was in the blue 2liter Cosworth , Last time was with the three litre .
    That was the time Murray Walker yelled at the mike SOMEBODY IS IN THE LEAD, was at Bristol that I came from a nobody to a somebody

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    [QUOTE=jackie wilson;2451221]Hi Robert how's Jim doing these days----- has to be forty years since I last saw him, tell him I said hello.

    Hi Jackie dads fine same age as you into rock climbing these days,he still has the merc 650xs that you supplied new in 1977.
    I am curious to know when you say the cosworth oz would lift its left sponson did you have the options to cure this if so how?.

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    [QUOTE=robert j garner;2452803]
    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Hi Robert how's Jim doing these days----- has to be forty years since I last saw him, tell him I said hello.

    Hi Jackie dads fine same age as you into rock climbing these days,he still has the merc 650xs that you supplied new in 1977.
    I am curious to know when you say the cosworth oz would lift its left sponson did you have the options to cure this if so how?.
    Still mad as a March hare then??? The only climbing I do is up the stairs and into bed and onto----------but we maybe should not go down that road.
    the 650XS is rare as rocking horsE sh-t, leave it to the one of the great grand kids.
    Never did cure the "wave to the crowd" habit of that port sponson, jusT had to live with it.

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    Hey---What's up Willa ??????
    I worry when you're this quiet for this long!!!!!!!
    Little question for you--------How come you never followed the long list of defectors to OMC?
    I;m sure Garbrecht could have done with you at his elbow, and the pay would have been a whole lot better than at Miserly Mercury.
    JUST ASKIN' !!!!!!!! [I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT "PRINCIPLES"] The factories did not know the meaning of the word.

    This is open to all excreta chucking fans----- NOW----participate you miserable shower of couch spuds, surprise yourselves and have an opinion-------put digets to keyboards------surprise ME.

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