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    Quote Originally Posted by STEVERINO View Post
    Jackie i can remember Don Ross and yourself winning the Amsterdam race in 1969 with a 1250sbp in a Levi 16 v hull and Charlie Shepherd had his 1st 16ft cat out in 1968 Soggy Moggy won its class in the Paris 6hr race.If you thought the Milesmaster Cats were poor you should have drove one of Charlie`s Cats i drove them both?
    Whoa there, just a goldarn minute Steve-------nowhere have i ever said a bad word about the Miles tunnel----------i "PREFERRED" the Molly-----simple as that.
    Tunnels that came out of a bucket never were any bloody good [in my day].
    Wood talks to you -------glass doesn't-----end of story.
    Can't comment on present day stuff ie; Cappellini craft --------i never got my rear in one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Whoa there, just a goldarn minute Steve-------nowhere have i ever said a bad word about the Miles tunnel----------i "PREFERRED" the Molly-----simple as that.
    Tunnels that came out of a bucket never were any bloody good [in my day].
    Wood talks to you -------glass doesn't-----end of story.
    Can't comment on present day stuff ie; Cappellini craft --------i never got my rear in one.
    Jackie is right...he has been nothing but positive about Miles hulls..... Me?...I hated the damn things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEVERINO View Post
    Jackie i can remember Don Ross and yourself winning the Amsterdam race in 1969 with a 1250sbp in a Levi 16 v hull and Charlie Shepherd had his 1st 16ft cat out in 1968 Soggy Moggy won its class in the Paris 6hr race.If you thought the Milesmaster Cats were poor you should have drove one of Charlie`s Cats i drove them both?
    Wasn't 69-----I started with the Torriggia in 1965-----The big Schultze in '66, the little Schulze in '67, The 18' Molly in '68 and the 17' in '70.
    Would do the odd race as co driver with Don-----Paris, Berlin, Amsterdam, etc. Disliked the Levi intensely, but it was the best V bottom ever [at that time]. Last time i drove one was the London Thames race after i sold the Molly to Don, the morning of the race, and drove Julian Bailey's "PHAEDRA" I finished last after submarining the damn things 20 times----------Don went on to win. His first race win in a tunnel. His last race was Amsterdam 1970-----leading by 2 clear laps when he flipped and tore his hip out----Never did race again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Wasn't 69-----I started with the Torriggia in 1965-----The big Schultze in '66, the little Schulze in '67, The 18' Molly in '68 and the 17' in '70.
    Would do the odd race as co driver with Don-----Paris, Berlin, Amsterdam, etc. Disliked the Levi intensely, but it was the best V bottom ever [at that time]. Last time i drove one was the London Thames race after i sold the Molly to Don, the morning of the race, and drove Julian Bailey's "PHAEDRA" I finished last after submarining the damn things 20 times----------Don went on to win. His first race win in a tunnel. His last race was Amsterdam 1970-----leading by 2 clear laps when he flipped and tore his hip out----Never did race again.
    .[/QUOTE] Jackie i can remember the Torrigia Cat i think it was red and ran a 110hp mercury i saw it in 1968 think you ran it in the world of sport tv series`this was the first year i saw the new Shultze 17ft hydro Cat Mike Rose had a red one called (HOT ON)`think you supplied it` ran with a 125hp Merc.The only other one at that time was a dark green 17ft Schultze 125hp Merc also belonged to Denny Burton ( UNCLE DEN ) he and his son drove it.1968 saw you and Don Ross running a Ross Saunders Cat 125hp Merc at the Paris 6Hrs race i think it got holed.1969 was a good time for the UK drivers myself included Carl Kiekhaefer gave UK drivers the choice of a 1000SBP or 1250SBP outboard for the cost of £550 including a spare gearcase.And prize money 1st place £500 2nd place £300 3rd place £125.I never new you raced Julian Bailey`s (PHAEDRA) v hull in the London Thames powerboat race i can remember that race well i drove one of Charlie Shepherds 16ft GRP Cats and was trying to keep up with the leaders and submarined it and nearly broke it in to 2 halves wouldnt have been too bad but i had flown it in a previous race and that time it was in 2 pieces he had made a good job of repairing it but it never raced again.those were the days with no power trim?Attachment 264789Attachment 264790

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEVERINO View Post
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    Jackie i can remember the Torrigia Cat i think it was red and ran a 110hp mercury i saw it in 1968 think you ran it in the world of sport tv series`this was the first year i saw the new Shultze 17ft hydro Cat Mike Rose had a red one called (HOT ON)`think you supplied it` ran with a 125hp Merc.The only other one at that time was a dark green 17ft Schultze 125hp Merc also belonged to Denny Burton ( UNCLE DEN ) he and his son drove it.1968 saw you and Don Ross running a Ross Saunders Cat 125hp Merc at the Paris 6Hrs race i think it got holed.1969 was a good time for the UK drivers myself included Carl Kiekhaefer gave UK drivers the choice of a 1000SBP or 1250SBP outboard for the cost of £550 including a spare gearcase.And prize money 1st place £500 2nd place £300 3rd place £125.I never new you raced Julian Bailey`s (PHAEDRA) v hull in the London Thames powerboat race i can remember that race well i drove one of Charlie Shepherds 16ft GRP Cats and was trying to keep up with the leaders and submarined it and nearly broke it in to 2 halves wouldnt have been too bad but i had flown it in a previous race and that time it was in 2 pieces he had made a good job of repairing it but it never raced again.those were the days with no power trim?Attachment 264789Attachment 264790[/QUOTE]
    I sold the small Torriggia cat to Mike Rose and then he had aspirations beyond his capabilities. Went to Austria with him and introduced him to Dieter Schulze. He bought the red 18' tunnel and raced it in the midlands and way up north.
    I had the small Schultze with a 1000 BP and was cleaning up wherever we appeared.
    At the weekend of the Champion Of Champions race-----i won on the saturday at Fairford-----and Mike offered me his Boat with a 1250 BP and £1000 cash if i would sell him my boat. Back in the day, that was a gynormous and stupid amount of money.
    I was an up and coming Mercury dealer and had 5 kids and a wife to support, there was no way i could pass up the deal.
    Even with a first place prize of £500 it was too good to let it go, so i did the deal.
    Mike won, but i dogged him all the way and finished 2nd and got the place money.
    Sold the boat to LOL Hopkins after the race for an obscene amount in one of the best deals of my life.
    The kids were well pissed that i only came second-----but we ate well that week, and i ordered my first Molinari on the strength of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark benson View Post
    In the 1969 Lake Havasu Outboard World Championships Official Program I note # 115 Lou Cooley from St. Louis, Missouri; co-driver Dorthy Cooley St. Louis, Missouri; 20' Power Cat; three Chrysler 135 Stackers! I heard she drove this boat or one like it, in one of the Mississippi River Marathons or endurance races! Does anyone recall if she got any "seat time", in the mid to late '60's at the Outboard World Championships?
    Hi Mark,
    Dorothy and Lou Cooley were/are my aunt and uncle. Aunt Dorothy passed away in 1997. I would have called her up and had your answer for you. I just asked my Mom, she doesn't remember. I have a photo that shows (2) KXOK boats being driven, one could be my aunt, don't really know. I hope the photos helps you a little bit.
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    These were good times

    Sold the boat to LOL Hopkins after the race for an obscene amount in one of the best deals of my life.
    The kids were well pissed that i only came second-----but we ate well that week, and i ordered my first Molinari on the strength of it.[/QUOTE]

    Yes Good Old Lol Hopkins, always had more money than sense, I remember him going to a motor racing event, he came away with a CAN-Am race car, full support vehicle with spares and a mechanic to prep it for him. He raced it for a season always doing well to the point he blew the motor. He once stood in front of the EP Baras stand at the boat show looking at the latest Mercury race motor with a signed blank check saying put your own numbers on that.... they said NO.
    Ha ha those were the days

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Wasn't 69-----I started with the Torriggia in 1965-----The big Schultze in '66, the little Schulze in '67, The 18' Molly in '68 and the 17' in '70.
    Would do the odd race as co driver with Don-----Paris, Berlin, Amsterdam, etc. Disliked the Levi intensely, but it was the best V bottom ever [at that time]. Last time i drove one was the London Thames race after i sold the Molly to Don, the morning of the race, and drove Julian Bailey's "PHAEDRA" I finished last after submarining the damn things 20 times----------Don went on to win. His first race win in a tunnel. His last race was Amsterdam 1970-----leading by 2 clear laps when he flipped and tore his hip out----Never did race again.
    Jackie, in 1971, perhaps even before that, a British driver by the name of Adrien Bailey ran on the Canadian circuit - driving a Levi... Were Julien and Adrien related?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Jackie, in 1971, perhaps even before that, a British driver by the name of Adrien Bailey ran on the Canadian circuit - driving a Levi... Were Julien and Adrien related?
    Yes !!!! Adrian and Julian were brothers who ran a very successful advertising agency in The City [London]. Both were members of the LMBRC. for a few years. Believe Adrian went to Canada in the mid sixties and Julian followed a couple of years later. Don Ross's mechanic, Bill Benson visited them in the early seventies. The boat they ran was a 16' Levi built by SOUTERS of Shoreham- by- Sea and supplied by JOHN MERRYFIELD & LEN MELLY via DOUBLE M. Never knew Adrian raced a Levi in Canada so it was probably supplied by Double M directly into Canada. I bought PHAEDRA from Julian and sold it on to Chas Shooter [ my mechanic].
    Does that answer your question ???
    Just doing a "Willabee"-----you know what i mean, a simple "yes" would suffice, but he has to go to Halifax N.S. to get to Disney World !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mister h View Post
    Sold the boat to LOL Hopkins after the race for an obscene amount in one of the best deals of my life.
    The kids were well pissed that i only came second-----but we ate well that week, and i ordered my first Molinari on the strength of it.
    Yes Good Old Lol Hopkins, always had more money than sense, I remember him going to a motor racing event, he came away with a CAN-Am race car, full support vehicle with spares and a mechanic to prep it for him. He raced it for a season always doing well to the point he blew the motor. He once stood in front of the EP Baras stand at the boat show looking at the latest Mercury race motor with a signed blank check saying put your own numbers on that.... they said NO.
    Ha ha those were the days[/QUOTE]

    You sure it was the E.P. BARRUS stand--------Bob Glenn of Barrus did not get the Mercury Franchise until South Western Marine Closed their doors---------Very late 90's i think.
    By that time Lol had been in and out of business like a yo-yo, one minute skint and the next back like a bad penny,
    Big bloke, Big mouth, Blank cheque book , and not much ability, except to talk a good con job.
    That about right Stevo?????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Yes Good Old Lol Hopkins, always had more money than sense, I remember him going to a motor racing event, he came away with a CAN-Am race car, full support vehicle with spares and a mechanic to prep it for him. He raced it for a season always doing well to the point he blew the motor. He once stood in front of the EP Baras stand at the boat show looking at the latest Mercury race motor with a signed blank check saying put your own numbers on that.... they said NO.
    Ha ha those were the days
    You sure it was the E.P. BARRUS stand--------Bob Glenn of Barrus did not get the Mercury Franchise until South Western Marine Closed their doors---------Very late 90's i think.
    By that time Lol had been in and out of business like a yo-yo, one minute skint and the next back like a bad penny,
    Big bloke, Big mouth, Blank cheque book , and not much ability, except to talk a good con job.
    That about right Stevo?????????[/QUOTE] Mr Jackie Wilson just wondered if you ever raced at this venue called TATTERSHAL Lincolnshire i used to race two up with my cousin Steve at the club races` this boat race circuit even had its own Castle the commadore at that time was a Mr Aubrey Musson the picture would be from 1967 those were the days 50hp Mercs everywhere some 110 mercs and hundreds of spectators they could park their cars all the way round the circuit for free` if it rained they just sat in their cars and watched the boat races.They had so many race entries they had to run heats`you may remember Mr Ron Burchell he always supported the boat races with his members from the Grimsby+Cleethorpes boat racing club one or two ladies raced too.Mike Rose ran his first Schultz cat here and can remember Tom Percival and Peter Sabberton turning up one day to race`in between boat races they had trick waterski displays can remember a 10 yr old boy being pulled round by his dad called Mike Hazelwood in a delta inboard boat went on to be World water ski champion.Alan H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Yes !!!! Adrian and Julian were brothers who ran a very successful advertising agency in The City [London]. Both were members of the LMBRC. for a few years. Believe Adrian went to Canada in the mid sixties and Julian followed a couple of years later. Don Ross's mechanic, Bill Benson visited them in the early seventies. The boat they ran was a 16' Levi built by SOUTERS of Shoreham- by- Sea and supplied by JOHN MERRYFIELD & LEN MELLY via DOUBLE M. Never knew Adrian raced a Levi in Canada so it was probably supplied by Double M directly into Canada. I bought PHAEDRA from Julian and sold it on to Chas Shooter [ my mechanic].
    Does that answer your question ???
    Just doing a "Willabee"-----you know what i mean, a simple "yes" would suffice, but he has to go to Halifax N.S. to get to Disney World !!!!
    Adrian Bailey driving his FJ-67 Levi in Galt, Ontario, Canada ( now called Cambridge - we might have stolen that city name from another country across the pond! ). Taken from an issue of Canadian Boating 1973.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mister h View Post
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    You sure it was the E.P. BARRUS stand--------Bob Glenn of Barrus did not get the Mercury Franchise until South Western Marine Closed their doors---------Very late 90's i think.
    By that time Lol had been in and out of business like a yo-yo, one minute skint and the next back like a bad penny,
    Big bloke, Big mouth, Blank cheque book , and not much ability, except to talk a good con job.
    That about right Stevo?????????
    Mr Jackie Wilson just wondered if you ever raced at this venue called TATTERSHAL Lincolnshire i used to race two up with my cousin Steve at the club races` this boat race circuit even had its own Castle the commadore at that time was a Mr Aubrey Musson the picture would be from 1967 those were the days 50hp Mercs everywhere some 110 mercs and hundreds of spectators they could park their cars all the way round the circuit for free` if it rained they just sat in their cars and watched the boat races.They had so many race entries they had to run heats`you may remember Mr Ron Burchell he always supported the boat races with his members from the Grimsby+Cleethorpes boat racing club one or two ladies raced too.Mike Rose ran his first Schultz cat here and can remember Tom Percival and Peter Sabberton turning up one day to race`in between boat races they had trick waterski displays can remember a 10 yr old boy being pulled round by his dad called Mike Hazelwood in a delta inboard boat went on to be World water ski champion.Alan H.[/QUOTE]

    Graham Musson must have been Aubreys son.
    There used to be three of them came down to my shop in Southwater Sussex, Graham, Ron and i'm damned if i can remember the third one. Sold them a bunch of boats and motors.
    Tattershall was always a great little club, but i don't remember any nationals being held there, so i never made it there to race. When i was doing business with Mike Rose i used to go up there regularly. Once had to break the ice to test his new Schultze.
    Peter Sabberton was a big inboard enthusiast and lived at "Sabberton Hall"???? Didn't Frankie Holmes of YARECRAFT, buy the Hall from him ????
    Frankie was famous for his "HELP" written on the bottom of his boat.
    Got to know Mike Hazelwood and his family through ski - racing, along with Liz Hobbs and father Peter.
    He had a corporate box at Chelsea, and at the boat show we used to get the best seats in the house.
    Did some propwork for them in the early days.

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    Hey Willa---------Wakey wakey, time to put your brain in gear !!!!!
    Did you ever come across a COVENTRY CLIMAX outboard----i found one and decided to have a go at racing the damn thing. Was a 50 hp four cylinder four stroke----ran smooth and quiet but did not have any punch at all and was twice as heavy as a 50 Merc/ Rang a couple of motor specialists who were running basically the same engine in Formula one Grand Prix cars----but the cost was horrendous, so i sold it on and never saw another one. Just thought you might know something, this was the early 60's.

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