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    Quote Originally Posted by willabee View Post
    Nah, nah, na Nah Nah.....

    No it's not.....that is Old Blue IV, the 1974 Parker winner. Seebold ran Old Blue in 1971 with a 1350 stacker. He started running Old Blue II in mid 1972 using a C6. The first race for it was Morgan City, which he won.....his first Team win! He received Old Blue III, an orange pickle fork Molinari, to run at Havasu in 73, and then he got the Molinari in MN4V's picture (a really great shot), Old Blue IV which he and Cees ran at Parker in 74.

    He did okay with Old Blue, but it was an older design and the boats Hering, Downard, Molinari and Sirois and a couple others drove were newer and faster. It was actually Old Blue II that sent Billy on his way to Top Gun status.

    Old Blue's I, II, III & IV and Billy & Cees.......
    Interesting....... So "Old Blue IV" was built before "Old Blue III" ( Molinari stopped building full tunnels when the pickleforks came out as I recall). I wonder where that hull was sitting for a couple of years before the 74 Parker race? It sure does look like Old Blue II with a new windscreen and transom mods for the T2x.....but I digress.......

    T2x
    20 Foot Switzer Wing 2 X S3000 (Dust'n the Wind II)
    !6 foot Wood Eltro Vee (2X Merc 1500's) (Dust'n the Wind IV)
    15 foot Powercat 15C (2 X Merc 1500) (Dust'n the Wind III)
    (Single engine boats are lacking something)
    15’ Wooden Switzer Shooting Star...
    16 foot Lee Craft Merc S 3000-(Gold Dust II)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark75H View Post
    At first I thought the same thing and then I decided he was trying to look at a stopwatch

    If it weren't for the year that picture was taken.......

    I'd swear he was texting Jackie..........
    20 Foot Switzer Wing 2 X S3000 (Dust'n the Wind II)
    !6 foot Wood Eltro Vee (2X Merc 1500's) (Dust'n the Wind IV)
    15 foot Powercat 15C (2 X Merc 1500) (Dust'n the Wind III)
    (Single engine boats are lacking something)
    15’ Wooden Switzer Shooting Star...
    16 foot Lee Craft Merc S 3000-(Gold Dust II)
    (The exception proves the rule)
    Obsolete and Proud of it

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    [QUOTE=willabee;1881746]Nah, nah, na Nah Nah.....

    He received Old Blue III, an orange pickle fork Molinari, to run at Havasu in 73, and then he got the Molinari in MN4V's picture (a really great shot), Old Blue IV which he and Cees ran at Parker in 74.


    Hate to be a 'nit-picker' (and Willabee is one of my favourites!!) but Old Blue III the orange pickle fork was Havasu - November 1972. There was no Outboard World Championships in 1973.
    But what is interesting here is over a year later (Parker - March 1974) Billy & Cees dove a full front instead of a pickle-fork. This must have been one of the last big race wins with a full-front. Even in Canada in 1974 Spencer Dunn and Oley Berkis had Molinari pickle forks.
    Jimbo ran the small Goat boat in Peterborough, Ontario (1973 I think). Got off to a bad start and almost caught Hering driving one of first Molinari pickle forks

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    Havasu.....

    Quote Originally Posted by peterse90 View Post
    Hate to be a 'nit-picker' (and Willabee is one of my favourites!!) but Old Blue III the orange pickle fork was Havasu - November 1972. There was no Outboard World Championships in 1973.
    You are absolutely correct. It was just yesterday that T2x said I've been slipping lately and I went and did it again today! ..... sorry bout that.
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    Molinari's.....

    Quote Originally Posted by T2x View Post
    Interesting....... So "Old Blue IV" was built before "Old Blue III" ( Molinari stopped building full tunnels when the pickleforks came out as I recall).....but I digress....... ...T2x
    About you digressing that is.....
    Why would you think Molinari stopped building full nose boats? If you recall the results of Havasu 72, Molinari, Hering & Seebold all had new Molinari pickle forks and they all blew over!!!!! The boats were very fast but tough to keep rightside up in rough marathon conditions. A number of Molinari full nose boats were ordered after that episode.

    Seebold actually started racing IV in 1973. Here is a shot from the Memphis contest, hopefully the boats name will be clear.
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    Tunnel Boat Racing in the '70's DVD

    Dear Members- We at GoSeeTV/boatracing have created a 5 Race DVD of
    1 The OMC Promotional video of Havasu '72 shown at Boat Shows in '73
    2 Parker 7 Hour '73 '74 '75 Testing
    3 Havasu '71 Outboard World Championships
    4 In Memory of # 226 Dave Potter
    5 Havasu '69 Day 1
    We are looking for donations of $50.00 to cover escalating Lab costs to convert footage to DVD. The DVD's are high resolution so you can watch them on big screens & download single frames (30 per second). #35 Barry Woods from Seattle Wash. made the 1st donation! E-mail [email protected]

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    According to Powerboat (August 1975 issue) at Firebird Lake, May 1975 Mercury team boats driven by Hering and Seebold competed in S class with T-3's and both drove Molinaris. But in U class, Bentz drove a Seebold hull with TII-X. This Seebold hull that Bentz is driving looks very much like the yellow #190 Bill is driving in the picture posted by MN4V (post #1506).
    Earlier, in a Mel Zikes column in Powerboat (May 1975) in March 1975 at the Miami Winter Outboard Championships, Hering and Seebold again drove T-3 powered Molinaris in S class, but in U class Seebold himself drove a Seebold pickle fork. The week later, Hering drove with Molinari to win the Parker Enduro in what looks to be the same Molinari hull that Seebold drove in Miami.
    At the OZ world championships in St. Louis in 1975, the Merc team boats were all Molinaris with the low centre of gravity rear cowlings. (Barry Woods competed in an OMC powered Seebold and finished 3rd).
    At the Parker Enduro, March, 1976, Merc again used the LCG Molinaris.
    Sometime in 1976 after Parker, Merc's agreement with Molinari must have changed because at Havasu in November '76 Seebold drove a Seebold but Fountain and Bentz drove Molinaris. Seebold won (now called MOD U).
    At Parker 1977, Merc were now using Seebolds as OMC won with Hering/Molinari obviously driving a Molinari.
    St. Louis 1977, team Merc was now all Seebold hulls.
    I know a lot of this has been covered here before...just thought I would add some pictures to the story.
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    Little Blue in White

    Little Blue after it had been painted white and sent to Florida.This was a Lakeland Fl. race. I only ran this boat a few times in closed course. If you look in the background you can see an old Chevy wagon to the left of the street light. The photo of Jeff Titus in the Scotti on page 100 has the same background. Little WHITE almost laped the field...
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    What year was this ??? Those barges look like they would hurt if you ran into them.
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    Ok, Mr Jim Hunt....what speed did you set the record at ??? I believe this is in 1969.

    What happened to the days of big grass roots racing and good prize money ??? I believe Erine Threkeld was the only one to run this short course in a wing. The wing he is running is the one he wrecked after the Black Coffin blow over. It was Kitsons old red wing.
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    JIM, That Sanders kid got a lot to answer for---------IF HE EVER SURFACES AGAIN ??
    SOME SAY HE HIBERNATES WITH WILLABEE-----GOLLY GEE-TIMES MUST BE TOUGH !!!

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    Tunnel Boat Racing in the '70's DVD

    Jackie- Johnny Sanders lives in Colorado & recently made a donation of $50.00 for a GoSee.TV 5 race DVD. He's "The Man" in the Havasu '72 OMC Promotional video! When are you going to stop being such a cheap skate & make a donation to a good cause? [email protected]

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    Is it formatted for his PAL format DVD player?

    I bet its NTSC for US players

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    If i spend a whole $50 all at one time, i would lose the image it has taken me years to nurture. Another thing Mark, you never did answer as to whether i was eligible for a discount at my age. If Johnny lives in Colorado, that means he can afford the 50 bucks on a DVD. [maybe he will let me look at his when he's seen it !!!!!] Doesn't it always snow all over the rich folks in places like Denver and Aspen and Robert Redbreast type people?
    With 11 grandkids and 6 great grandkids, what sort of an example would i be setting if i FRITTERED away $50 on a set of DVD's. NO i am not mean and stingy--------just a tad FRUGAL with an eye to a long and useful life.

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    To Mark & Nick
    You will be receiving my US$50 in a few days. It has to be the BEST DEAL ever for the truely dedicated outboard rev heads who still remember what it was REALLY like in those heady years. Thank you for your dedication & endless devotion in searching out & returning those wonderfull visual memories of our long gone younger days. You are two of the few who don't just talk but are actually doing something that fill the gaps in our long faded & often embellished dreams.

    Thank you Mark & Nick

    Ken
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