25' to 30' rough water V bottom running Twin outboard motors who's got the fastest?

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Johnny question what's your favorite 25' to 30' V hull running twin outboards?

I love a well set up 26 Sutphen.
Spent a lot of time in a 27 Activator with 2.5s that was a blast too...
Have a good friend building a 30 Rage with 300s right now, should be fun, excited to go for a rip.


I had a LOT of fun racing against two 30 Tempests over the years in Class 5 with our Kryptonite, so my vote is a 30 SB.
Length is your friend when hanging that much weight on the transom. Neither of them could run with the IO boats in big water, but none of us could turn with them in the calm.

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Omni there R bigger faster boats (30'+) that make the Sagandaga romp that run 130's and the waters can get pretty choppy at times. Hence Alby is moving up now to a 'real' SOB and out of his Mosquito so he can better enjoy the run. Alby doesn't like to left behind so I can't wait to see what he shows up with. The Lake is about the size of Lake George.

Many more new and old/ upgraded SOB's are amassing this year so it should make for A 'highlight' start off for 2014.

doc I will definitely consider it hopefully I'll have my new tow vehicle by them....... How's winter treating you?

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Heres a 26 Sutphen we rigged, best of 77.8 right now still working on props. Amazing boat in big water, flys dead level. Could probably run in the 80s with more setback, etc...but would ruin the boat.

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I love a well set up 26 Sutphen.
Spent a lot of time in a 27 Activator with 2.5s that was a blast too...
Have a good friend building a 30 Rage with 300s right now, should be fun, excited to go for a rip.


I had a LOT of fun racing against two 30 Tempests over the years in Class 5 with our Kryptonite, so my vote is a 30 SB.
Length is your friend when hanging that much weight on the transom. Neither of them could run with the IO boats in big water, but none of us could turn with them in the calm.

Interesting Johnny please continue on the IO vs twin outboard in rough water I've never heard that one. I personally was looking for outboard motors for economic reasons. I use my boat a lot during the season I mean I'm good to take my boat to breakfast,lunch, or dinner at least 4 to 5 times a week and as witnessed by my brothers formula the fuel bill would leave me with a very very small dinning budget. With that said I was not aware that IO's had a advantage in rough water.

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Heres a 26 Sutphen we rigged, best of 77.8 right now still working on props. Amazing boat in big water, flys dead level. Could probably run in the 80s with more setback, etc...but would ruin the boat.

very very nice 20" or 25" motors and are you running hydraulic jack plates?

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very very nice 20" or 25" motors and are you running hydraulic jack plates?

25, no hydraulics.


The Outboard boats simply didnt have the balance that the I/Os have in rough water, or the weight. Couldnt keep them flying level. Thats just the way it is in offshore. The best setup outboard boat wont run with a well setup I/O one in big water. Especially a full stagger I/O boat.
I do still love 2.5s in big water though...the throttle response is immediate. Nothing like it.

Our 27 Krytponite would almost lap the two 30 Tempests in real big water....but we were trying to catch a 30 Y2K inboard....
it took 3-4s to keep the outboard boats at bay, thats where the Kryptonite came alive. Anything over 6foot we couldnt catch the 30 Y2k. A lot more boat there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yr1Z_F4tcc

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25, no hydraulics.


The Outboard boats simply didnt have the balance that the I/Os have in rough water, or the weight. Couldnt keep them flying level. Thats just the way it is in offshore. The best setup outboard boat wont run with a well setup I/O one in big water. Especially a full stagger I/O boat.
I do still love 2.5s in big water though...the throttle response is immediate. Nothing like it.

Our 27 Krytponite would almost lap the two 30 Tempests in real big water....but we were trying to catch a 30 Y2K inboard....
it took 3-4s to keep the outboard boats at bay, thats where the Kryptonite came alive. Anything over 6foot we couldnt catch the 30 Y2k. A lot more boat there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yr1Z_F4tcc

Love that 30 Y2K Joey rigged a outboard one this summer beautiful boat.

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Love that 30 Y2K Joey rigged a outboard one this summer beautiful boat.

We have one on order right now, being built Baby blue/orange for a customer. Gulf Racing colors, full race boat for Class 5 OPA. Coming along nice.

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Interesting Johnny please continue on the IO vs twin outboard in rough water I've never heard that one. I personally was looking for outboard motors for economic reasons. I use my boat a lot during the season I mean I'm good to take my boat to breakfast,lunch, or dinner at least 4 to 5 times a week and as witnessed by my brothers formula the fuel bill would leave me with a very very small dinning budget. With that said I was not aware that IO's had a advantage in rough water.

Omni I guess the Cold is making me cold like everyone else but I'm also getting well schooled here now on 24'-30' offshore set-up's which I am enjoying.

I think Johnny Saris has just nailed the Outboard vs. I/O differences. With the type of offshore waters you're going to be running vs speed vs fuel economy (I would also include initial outlay costs) I think you had a great compromise boat already with your single outboard 24' Superboat. You could run that hard in 3-4' right?

I think a nice high HP 24' superboat might be a great all around value. But since longer is better in rougher waters you have to feel how deep your pockets can stretch I guess to get the best.

PS if there are 6' ers out I'm planning on staying home.

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so my vote is a 30 SB.
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I have to agree....handles so well, a 6 year old can drive it

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We have one on order right now, being built Baby blue/orange for a customer. Gulf Racing colors, full race boat for Class 5 OPA. Coming along nice.

My son has made me promise to take him by the shop to see this

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We have one on order right now, being built Baby blue/orange for a customer. Gulf Racing colors, full race boat for Class 5 OPA. Coming along nice.

WOW very nice I for whatever reason thought the guy forget his name real nice guy who was actually building them moved to the Carolina's if this is fact true who's building them?

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Dont know, dont care lol
John and John are very good friends of ours. The boat is 80% done, then it comes to us for rigging. I have some pics, its looking great. Some very cool mods have been made to this boat as well.

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Dont know, dont care lol
John and John are very good friends of ours. The boat is 80% done, then it comes to us for rigging. I have some pics, its looking great. Some very cool mods have been made to this boat as well.

What kind of mods?

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Omni I guess the Cold is making me cold like everyone else but I'm also getting well schooled here now on 24'-30' offshore set-up's which I am enjoying.

I think Johnny Saris has just nailed the Outboard vs. I/O differences. With the type of offshore waters you're going to be running vs speed vs fuel economy (I would also include initial outlay costs) I think you had a great compromise boat already with your single outboard 24' Superboat. You could run that hard in 3-4' right?

I think a nice high HP 24' superboat might be a great all around value. But since longer is better in rougher waters you have to feel how deep your pockets can stretch I guess to get the best.

PS if there are 6' ers out I'm planning on staying home.

as you've seen Doc my 24' SuperBoat was the perfect entry level foray into performance boating on a budget Eastern Long Island style. Personally the only draw back I encountered was speed it just wasn't fast enough and it take a hardy female companions when the winds changed other wise they where miserable when you hit the dock. Boat definitely when things got snotty could put the fear of God in the uninitiated.