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    Guido's record from the UIM website:

    RECORD No DATE PILOTE NAT. CLASS ENGINE HULL MPH KMH
    3588 2005 G. Cappellini ITA CIRCUIT FORMULA 1 - 2.5 Lit. DAC MERCURY 159,234 MPH 256,256 KMH
    Last edited by FrenchPhil; 08-04-2013 at 04:26 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchPhil View Post
    Guido's record from the UIM website:

    RECORD No DATE PILOTE NAT. CLASS ENGINE HULL MPH KMH
    3588 2005 G. Cappellini ITA CIRCUIT FORMULA 1 - 2.5 Lit. DAC MERCURY 159,234 MPH 256,256 KMH
    Very cool.

    Been reading for the 11 yrs that this site has existed that the outright record is easily beaten by a 2.5 and RBT's notes would seem to validate it.
    I would think one of you guys would step to the plate, strap one to a pallet and send it to Ohio and be the man. Would shut all us doubters up.

    On Guido's record, I would like to see (in print) what it takes to set one of those records. I know they have true APBA/UIM "Kilo Runs" all the time for multiple classes.
    Was this set at a "Kilo Run" or was it a one off, "F-1" record.
    As in, on a "surveyed and certified" course??? Not being a smart ass here but a record ain't a record unless it's real.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


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    Gary I it a real deal kilo.
    The omc's don't make the power everyone thinks. The sea way motor can't compete with the merc and it doesn't have rules on rpm, it is .5 a liter bigger and they can,port what ever they want. The cranks will not survive, specifically the top bearing. That little merc that everyone loves to hate is one bad little motor. There is a big difference between a drag motor and a kilo or roundy round motor as you have also touted over the years and those big motors have a host of problems that the little motor doesn't.
    I would like to see anyone other than merc get the record ( they are hanging us out to dry, and rapeing us all the way to the end) but I am also a realist and am not blinded by scream and fly claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBT View Post
    Gary I it a real deal kilo.
    The omc's don't make the power everyone thinks. The sea way motor can't compete with the merc and it doesn't have rules on rpm, it is .5 a liter bigger and they can,port what ever they want. The cranks will not survive, specifically the top bearing. That little merc that everyone loves to hate is one bad little motor. There is a big difference between a drag motor and a kilo or roundy round motor as you have also touted over the years and those big motors have a host of problems that the little motor doesn't.
    I would like to see anyone other than merc get the record ( they are hanging us out to dry, and rapeing us all the way to the end) but I am also a realist and am not blinded by scream and fly claims.
    Interesting.
    I know Sammy Scelio (sp?) was fast in F-1 w/a OMC a few yrs back but I thought I was seeing rules issues too and I stop paying attention as soon as that starts happening.
    As to displacement advantage, hasn't Merc been building a 3.0 for the last 20 or so yrs?? Now a 3.2 liter.
    Who chooses the knife for the gun fight?
    Kinda like a 2500cc V-twin Harley/Buell owning the Pro Stock motorcycle class in drag racing that all the sheep worship. Course they don't tell us the ricers are limited to 1500cc's.

    On power....., put a 2.5 on a huge boat like they ran the 8's on back in the day and run it on a 1 1/2 mile oval like they did in the day. Not a road course w/tiny straights like the UIM does today but two big ass straightaways connected by two corners. I have some pretty good, ancient VHS tapes from the day, including when they changed the rules to "try" and make the Mercs competitive.
    A UIM 2.5 would be a glowing ingot by the end of the first straightaway.

    You know what color my blood is but been reading/hearing the same crap for ever now. Lets see it.
    We have a guy w/the hull, the funds, and the cajones. Should be easy.
    Who needs the factory? The baddest Mercs aren't coming from them anyhow.

    A record is a record and this one is the holly grail to me. Since it was set by a weak fiche moter 30 yrs ago it seems it's waiting to be broken.
    Last edited by Instigator; 08-04-2013 at 05:27 PM.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


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    BTW, here is the APBA Champ Boat Kilo Record. I know the motors are more restricted now but not sure they were when this record was set and might explain why it hasn't been broken since then.

    OPC CHAMP BOAT/1998
    KILO A
    143.716

    11/29/1996
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    TODD BOWDEN
    MONROVIA CA
    TODD BOWDEN
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CLIMAX View Post
    We are based out of Corpus Christi, Stepping out of the turbine world for a while, I have known Dan for quite a long time. Boat is currently under construction, Monty has first engine together, second is under construction , Going after every record we can. I have planned this for about the last fifteen years.
    Not sure who this is, but good luck with the records. I do want to make sure that everyone on here knows I am not affiliated with this person or this record boat, just so there is no confusion. Thanks Todd

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerotech View Post
    Not sure who this is, but good luck with the records. I do want to make sure that everyone on here knows I am not affiliated with this person or this record boat, just so there is no confusion. Thanks Todd
    I thought it was odd to. The first post from a new member? I'd be interested to know more. He stated second engine. I wonder if that means hes planning to break the 200 mark with two outboards? Hmmm,interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Shot Merc View Post
    I thought it was odd to. The first post from a new member? I'd be interested to know more. He stated second engine. I wonder if that means hes planning to break the 200 mark with two outboards? Hmmm,interesting!
    I actually just got a call from a buddy on here 2 seconds ago. He said this is Rick George out of Texas. He is getting a boat built by Dan Ellison right now and is putting a Monty V-8 on it. This is a separate deal from mine, but I don't mind a little competition. I wish anyone trying this lots of luck and to be careful.

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    Instigator that might be the V-8 you posted the pics of.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aerotech View Post
    I actually just got a call from a buddy on here 2 seconds ago. He said this is Rick George out of Texas. He is getting a boat built by Dan Ellison right now and is putting a Monty V-8 on it. This is a separate deal from mine, but I don't mind a little competition. I wish anyone trying this lots of luck and to be careful.
    Interesting!!! Well there ya go you should try it with a Merc now for sure Surprised Dan didnt inform you of this
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    I don't care what power they use, I think it's cool that there are two different teams currently working on setting a new record
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerotech View Post
    I actually just got a call from a buddy on here 2 seconds ago. He said this is Rick George out of Texas. He is getting a boat built by Dan Ellison right now and is putting a Monty V-8 on it. This is a separate deal from mine, but I don't mind a little competition. I wish anyone trying this lots of luck and to be careful.
    theirs been a lot a people kicking this around for a good long while

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    Thanks guys, I am sure monty will chime in the top bearing is an all new piece he just tooled

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    Yes that was motor number one. And no just a single

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    Thanks Guys, Takes a whole lot to play in this game.Thanks Todd for the words. Lets just have fun

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