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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x View Post
    In his time yes.... Today Hering and Dewald hold that title with Rolla still cranking out some nice stuff for yachts and things. Truth is in 1964, the best props came from people like Michigan Propeller, then came the Records and Cary's , then Dick Schneider pulled the "Elephant Ear" out of his head, then Hendricks came to the fore with the higher rake cleavers on OMC's new line of race motors, and it has gone round and round ever since (Don't forget Jon Culver and Papa Seebold's modified Mercury wheels). In the end it's all good...... except for that F**kin' Milesmaster...
    Rolla does not own the factory any more-------'twas bought by Twin Disc who Bought out Arneson.
    One of the reasons they paid big bucks is -----IT WAS A PROFIT MAKING COMPANY.
    Reason------Rolla had moved on from the very limited competition market to wider fields---ie Super yachts , Military and big money stuff.
    He still has a tickle now and again ----but my side of the pond he was top dog during the 60/s 70/s era.
    You ever wonder how come the likes of Dieter Schultze, Renato Molinari, Ceasere Scotti, Cees Velden came over to the USA and were so successful ------------did you know ---they were all customers of Phil Rolla an American residing in Switzerland who just happened to be THE guru of props.

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    I figured it out .....

    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Good morrow fair Willabee--------------Did it ever occur to you that you may have won races due to several mitigating factors !!! IE,
    6 --------Not a bad crew chief
    7 --------A hekin fuge race budget
    I knew #6 was a shot (not one of your better one's, but a shot just the same), but I must admit I had a little trouble figuring out what you were trying to say in #7. Just as I was about to Google "hekin fuge" it broke through the grey matter and lit up like the sun.

    Reminded me of a little story. After I was promoted to Manager of Hi Perf., I was brought into a "budget meeting". During that session I was informed of what the Hi Performance Products department could spend on racing for the year. Remember, all of the "support" boats were now under Hi Perf, not the Racing Team (Racing had the four Stars & Stripes drivers). Anyway, I think Parker was next on the schedule and I asked how much of an effort they wanted Hi Perf. to put forth and the response was we want to win.

    After the race I informed Garbrecht that I had pretty much shot the the entire years wad at Parker. He informed me that I would have to apply for additional funding. I don't remember the process anymore, I just remember that I did what I was supposed to do and a new budget just magically appeared. The lesson I learned was "don't worry about what you spend, just do well and you won't run out of money" ..... others may have simply said " hekin fuge budget"
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    Phil Rolla

    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Rolla does not own the factory any more-------'twas bought by Twin Disc who Bought out Arneson.
    One of the reasons they paid big bucks is -----IT WAS A PROFIT MAKING COMPANY.
    Reason------Rolla had moved on from the very limited competition market to wider fields---ie Super yachts , Military and big money stuff.
    He still has a tickle now and again ----but my side of the pond he was top dog during the 60/s 70/s era.
    You ever wonder how come the likes of Dieter Schultze, Renato Molinari, Ceasere Scotti, Cees Velden came over to the USA and were so successful ------------did you know ---they were all customers of Phil Rolla an American residing in Switzerland who just happened to be THE guru of props.
    Jackie--pulled this out 'Searace'--check out the four blade


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    Freddi Miles Johnson powered 1972?

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    My thinking is only a guess`3 factory Molinari T11 outfits full tunnels all had big name sponsers all came to win the 1973? Chasewater 500 race along comes freddi with no sponsers with a T11X to spoil the fun with a new picklefork 1st one i saw with a 3ft tunnel i am sure he never even ran a T11`Dave Burgess would be the man to ask i think he has posted on this site before maybe we will get a reply.I was told at the time Cees was non too pleased?.Maybe GG just wanted to see how it performed against the older engines.
    I saw this boat being built in Freddi`s workshop 1972 nice looking boat had large angled air slots in either side of the deck Scotti had a boat with deck slots in like it`it was going to the world championships race and one of Freddi`s driver`s name of Max Milten was to drive it.Hope Bobby R you are reading this the picture shows the boat being driven maybe on a thursday night? at Oulton Broad maybe Freddi took it there to see how it ran against the Merc`s of Bob or Toms.Heard later at the world championship race it didn`t perform as good as Fred would have liked`GG would have been at the race and maybe asked Freddi whats with the Johnson?Then offered the soon to arrive T11x? in 1973?Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    You ever wonder how come the likes of Dieter Schultze, Renato Molinari, Ceasere Scotti, Cees Velden came over to the USA and were so successful ------------did you know ---they were all customers of Phil Rolla an American residing in Switzerland who just happened to be THE guru of props.
    If I am reading this correctly none of you folks from across the pond would have won a race over here without an expatriot American's propellers......? Which begs the question... what wheels did Seebold run when he used to stomp around Bristol like he owned the place?

    On a related issue...is it possible that my problems with the F**kin' Milesmaster occurred because I was driving it on the wrong side of the road?

    Cheerio and toodles old chap.....

    T2x
    Last edited by T2x; 08-03-2012 at 12:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x View Post
    If I am reading this correctly none of you folks from across the pond would have won a race over here without an expatriot American's propellers......? Which begs the question... what wheels did Seebold run when he used to stomp around Bristol like he owned the place?

    On a related issue...is it possible that my problems with the F**kin' Milesmaster occurred because I was driving it on the wrong side of the road?

    Cheerio and toodles old chap.....

    T2x
    Did you not ever see the the ROLLA logo on the side of Billy's boat. My son Mark worked at Rolla in Switzerland for 10 years----ran with a Seebold-----good friends with Mike and Timmy-----don't take a genius to figure out WHAT prop he ran around Bristol. Back to the original statement -------Mercury had sh-t props. [in the early days].

    You had to have gynormous goolies to even get into one of Freds creations.
    Grab it by the horns and show the damn thing who was bossman.

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    [QUOTE=GENE LANHAM;2360389]Jackie--pulled this out 'Searace'--check out the four blade

    [/QUOTECould do with a little help here Gene------am amazed that so little is known of Rolla stateside. Sirois spent half his life chasing Phil-----both when he was with Mercury and when he went Offshore. Pruett was in the shop every other day when he was with Ballestieros Spalding and Percival were Regular visitors---Velden also. Phil was one of the few people who had a little bit of know how on props----but even he said it was not an exact science and trial and error were two of his playmates.
    He used Record and Radice props as a base and went and improved---------that's only MY interpretation.
    Even today---if you want to set a world record------talk to Rolla first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Rolla does not own the factory any more-------'twas bought by Twin Disc who Bought out Arneson.
    One of the reasons they paid big bucks is -----IT WAS A PROFIT MAKING COMPANY.
    Reason------Rolla had moved on from the very limited competition market to wider fields---ie Super yachts , Military and big money stuff.
    He still has a tickle now and again ----but my side of the pond he was top dog during the 60/s 70/s era.
    You ever wonder how come the likes of Dieter Schultze, Renato Molinari, Ceasere Scotti, Cees Velden came over to the USA and were so successful ------------did you know ---they were all customers of Phil Rolla an American residing in Switzerland who just happened to be THE guru of props.
    WOW! Did ever stir things up!

    What ever happened to the MILES Jackie mentioned awhile ago Wila?

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    [QUOTE=jackie wilson;2360436]Did you not ever see the the ROLLA logo on the side of Billy's boat. My son Mark worked at Rolla in Switzerland for 10 years----ran with a Seebold-----good friends with Mike and Timmy-----don't take a genius to figure out WHAT prop he ran around Bristol. Back to the original statement -------Mercury had sh-t props. [in the early days].

    You had to have gynormous goolies to even get into one of Freds creations.
    Grs and show the damn thing who was bossman.[/ab it by the hornQUOTE]

    As quoted from the Ilustrious Don Pruet (talking about unlimiteds actually) "We carry them around in a wheelbarrow rather than a tabaca can!"

    "Grab it by the horns and show the damn thing who was bossman." Yup! and have that Rolla large diameter zero rake prop!

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    okay I will help you out

    okay- I will help you out here guys- you can keep your Rolla Props and I will gladly take the HERRING and DEWALD props you don't want!!!!!!----oh- and that's a typo -it is hekin fudge!

    PS-Other than Rich- it appears you guys haven't bought a prop in the last 10 yrs
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowcat View Post
    okay- I will help you out here guys- you can keep your Rolla Props and I will gladly take the HERRING and DEWALD props you don't want!!!!!!----oh- and that's a typo -it is hekin fudge!

    PS-Other than Rich- it appears you guys haven't bought a prop in the last 10 yrs
    Gave up buying props a hell of a lot more than 10 years ago, -----but then this is about the era when even BOBBY HERRING was using Rolla Props. Today my grandson Craig is still winning WORLD titles with Herring and Rolla Wheels, albeit they are much Heckin fuger than they used to be------But so are the boats------and the Motors AND THE HECKIN PRICE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Gave up buying props a hell of a lot more than 10 years ago, -----but then this is about the era when even BOBBY HERRING was using Rolla Props. Today my grandson Craig is still winning WORLD titles with Herring and Rolla Wheels, albeit they are much Heckin fuger than they used to be------But so are the boats------and the Motors AND THE HECKIN PRICE.
    Jackie: We could have purchased an entire boat, engine and trailer back in the day for the price of a Hering Offshore wheel today.
    Last edited by T2x; 08-06-2012 at 07:04 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x View Post
    Jackie: We could have purchased and entire boat, engine and trailer back in the day for the price of a Hering Offshore wheel today.
    .
    once asked my grandson Craig------how much is a pair of Hering props for your boat ( 42' Fountain with a pair of Ilmoors )------I still cannot believe what he told me----about 30 thousand dollars. And he has 3 sets!!!!!!
    You could get a matched pair of PURDY's for that. Or a half tidy Roller or Bentley. ------- or week in the best little whore house in Paris. JEsus wept, the world has gone mad.
    I can still remember when a Big Mac. With frys. A gallon of Coke and a hot Apple pie were a dollar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
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    once asked my grandson Craig------how much is a pair of Hering props for your boat ( 42' Fountain with a pair of Ilmoors )------I still cannot believe what he told me----about 30 thousand dollars. And he has 3 sets!!!!!!
    You could get a matched pair of PURDY's for that. Or a half tidy Roller or Bentley. ------- or week in the best little whore house in Paris. JEsus wept, the world has gone mad.
    I can still remember when a Big Mac. With frys. A gallon of Coke and a hot Apple pie were a dollar.
    or a White Castle Hamburger was .12......

    As I recall dealer net on a 1965 Merc 1000 was about $920.00 and that included a gas tank, aluminum (Pot metal) prop and controls.
    Last edited by T2x; 08-08-2012 at 12:32 PM.
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    16 foot Lee Craft Merc S 3000-(Gold Dust II)
    (The exception proves the rule)
    Obsolete and Proud of it

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