21 shadow with twins

**Baja170** · 03-20-2016, 04:25 PM

HAHAHHAHA I only know him as Johnny Geico. Nice boat. Cooter has pics of ChrisM passing a few ModVP boats racing with the Shadow. They have helmets on, Lifelines the whole 9 yards. Chris is driving like he always does. Coot has a lot of pics you guys would love to see.

**fatherb68** · 03-20-2016, 09:56 PM

That's my velocity. They are faster with the twins. But the amazing part is the torque. When you hit it at 80 it still wants to rip the seats out of the floor. You will never get board of that boat. Glad to see the boat on the water again. Please be careful, and make a smart investment in good life jackets please.

**Baja170** · 03-21-2016, 05:31 AM

Hi JG. Yes these two boats Jimmy and Chris built are pretty special boats. I guess it is hard to understand for people who have never had a ride on one of them. As you know Jimmy and Chris spent years perfecting the setup and you are right, the kick in the butt is very impressive and they are a lot faster than people think. The OS mids scream and have that distinctive sound as well. Love the Shadow. I do have a couple lifeline jackets but I also boat on a lake where 1 or two footers close together are about as much as you see. We don't have the far apart spaced rollers like you guys do on the Hudson and other places you run up there. On our lake even with 5 people in the boat, it just flys over everything and is smooth as can be. But you still get the kick when you put the pedal to wood at pretty much any speed.

You still running old school cleavers on yours like I am mine? Have you tried any more modern props?

**tux974** · 03-21-2016, 06:57 AM

A few VERY important things to keep in mind at all times!
1- You should NEVER run a boat hard or try to show what a boat can do with passengers in the boat!
If you like or have the desire to show them, its OK but....put them in another boat or at the dock and say watch this!
2- When you put the keys in the ignition of any high strung boat....top quality life saving equipment goes on, no matter what the plan or place of running is!!!!
NOTE; Even more important in your present case while learning a new to you HPerf boat, things can or will get out of hand very quickly, be smart!

When an accident or incident happens WE ALL in our sport suffer!
Please, be smart and use common sense at all times!!
PS; This is just my 2cents, Lifeline probably saved my life!

**Baja170** · 03-21-2016, 07:13 AM

You saw in the video we all had life jackets on. I also had the 28P props on not the 30's. I was just burning gas not pushing it hard.

I don't push it with people in the boat without lifelines on and even then it is only one other person just to balance out the boat but the majority of the time I am by myself in the boat and in my Cougar as well because one of the main reasons I bought them was just to get away on the lake by myself with no cell service and nobody to bug me. (I have a hand held VHF radio and all the marinas monitor the marine VHF channels actually I have 4. We use them we we go riding in the woods on our side by sides as well.)

We have a nice and very comfortable pontoon for taking a lot of people around.

For some reason though, when my neighbors see me putting the Shadow in the water they all come running. I have 8 lifejackets (16 in Pontoon) not including the lifelines in all 3 of my boats, two throwables, a air horn ropes bumpers the full 9 yards in every boat. I am a firm believer in safety. Also in the video I made sure my rear passenger with the life jacket on had her hands on two stainless handles the whole ride. She never let go just like I asked her to do. I have only really aired out that boat time one out on a big cruisers wakes and I was by myself, if flys true and great and the CG is perfect with fuel in it. Almost empty tank, not sure yet.

I am really impressed with how it drives and I am lucky to get the boat with all that R&D in it setup like it is. Father B was also lucky as well because Chris and Jimmy put years of time into getting this pair of special boats setup VERY well.

**donmac** · 03-22-2016, 08:06 AM

Mine will be going back in the water this summer after 3 yrs. of being in storage! I sold my current regular ride so I'd have put it back together! I just coudn't find the get-it-done attitude like tux, while I had another fast ride ready and waiting!

**tux974** · 03-23-2016, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by donmac

Mine will be going back in the water this summer after 3 yrs. of being in storage! I sold my current regular ride so I'd have put it back together! I just coudn't find the get-it-done attitude like tux, while I had another fast ride ready and waiting!

Hey Don, nice to read about your plan on getting it back together this year.
Both you and Chris were instrumental and extremely helpful with valuable information to my build/project.
I think once you get started the motivation will follow and keep you focused.

**Baja170** · 03-23-2016, 06:22 AM

Tony you are never satisfied but you sure do a nice rigging job. Can't wait to see what your next project is and who gets your twin RS.

I am good on boats now. Or I will go broke and even more likely the wife will KILL me before I go broke. Conveniently we are also out of garage space thank goodness. Honestly, I think I am sitting in what I have for pretty good prices especially considering how much time has been put into both of them in R&D and testing. There are a lot of boats for sale right now for great deals.

**tux974** · 03-23-2016, 06:32 AM

Will, yes I think you have done well enjoy them and be safe!

**Baja170** · 03-23-2016, 06:36 AM

I will be Tony. GLWTS of your RS. Somebody is going to get a super clean and well rigged boat you could eat out of the bilge it is so clean.

I am trying to order those anodes and thermostat for the wife's pontoon. Most confusing parts to find anywhere even on Ebay. I will be at the lake all next week and I am going to call a local Merc dealer and see if he by chance has some, there are a lot of pontoons with 115's on them before I order and wait. Need to get that done, don't want water in the oil from a failed thermostat. Thank you for the heads-up about that issue on the Yamaha powerheads in the Merc 115's.

**tux974** · 03-23-2016, 06:43 AM

My suggestion is to call Fuller, Diamond or Sanderson Marine with your serial # you will get good prices and service to your front door within days without any guess work!
BTW, not sure what you mean about water in oil?
What I mentioned since I have a similar motor is, to put oil in the gas on that Mercury/Yamaha 4 stroke power head! PM or text so we do not take this thread totally of track.

**Baja170** · 03-23-2016, 06:45 AM

I will do that if I can't walk in locally today and get them. I am pretty sure I am going down to get the Cougar today and bring it back here for when Frank delivers Keith's boat so I have to go right by the place anyway and with the warm weather we have had lately 73 today I am sure they are open and busy. If they want 300 for 100 worth of parts I'll try to squeeze off a good fart in the place before I walk out and call the guys you mentioned. Probably easier just to call Fullers when they open and just order them with fast shipping so I have them by Friday for sure and can pop the boat out and change them in less than an hour, pressure spray off the pontoons and have it ready for next week while we are there all week. Hope to have Keith's boat to play with by then as well. Man I am so lucky to have the boats I do and I still have less in all of them than the Skater I almost bought before I ran into problems insuring it. 3 for the price of one and I have some cool boats. I am truly a lucky man, all those years of slaving my life away 7 days a week and hundreds of email and PM's to deal with every day, I finally get to enjoy myself more and fly and be free in unique and fun boats.

**David** · 03-23-2016, 08:00 PM

Don, I want a ride. Will bring gas.

**Baja170** · 03-24-2016, 04:54 AM

Sanderson turned me on to a Yamaha dealer who had the Thermostat for like 50 bucks shipped fast to get here by Friday it was South Eastern Marine in VA. Butch is a nice guy. He will have my anodes next week. Thank you Tony. Don, can't wait to see your setup.

**donmac** · 03-24-2016, 08:17 AM

I picked up these two hydrostream hulls a few yrs. ago and spent the last couple seasons rigging and dialing them in! picked up the voodoo first and got bored with it, moved on to the viking,not bored with it but it's taking away my time for the challenger. now time to take a step back and fix up my first love!
toni, I have a couple 115/4s.mercs here, something I should know? pm me please.
David , no problem with a lake tour, when it's together. right now I'm body/paint the dually and hoping the weather warms a bit[holding me up] paint booth no heat! will be starting challenger as soon as I get truck back together!