More mathematics of electricity

[NICE PAIR]

LOL! Nice right wing talking points. Ooh scary scary! Get a lawyer. Toxic waste. Holes in your roof. LOL The system comes with a 25 year warranty The panel manufacturer. Backed up by the servicing company. Backed up by the solar installer company. That's all in writing. Here is a little snippet about how much degradation is allowed "a 25-year linear power output warranty. The power warranty guarantees that module output will be no less than 83.1% of nominal power after 25 years, with only 2.5% degradation in the first year and 0.6% annual degradation thereafter."

In case you missed it solar panels that were installed in the 1990's are still producing at more then 80% original capacity. That is solar panels made with 80's tech. They are much more advanced now.

Old Solar Panels Built in the Early 1990s Are Still Going Strong After 30 Years at 80% Original Power — And That’s a Big Deal for Our Energy Future

I talked to 8 solar companies before I settled on one. Most were a complete rip off. Prices vary wildly for the same size system Tried to push me to a 25 year payment instead of 15.with basically the same payment. The company I went with has been in business for 15 years. After I told them what I wanted and that I already talked to 7 other companies, They said a minimum deal is better than no deal. and gave me a price 35% less than the others without me ever telling them what I was quoted. With permitting it took 4 months to get it installed. Since then it has been great. I only use around 70% of the power I generate annually. And by the way, regardless of what the nay sayers try and tell you, solar systems still works on bad weather days. of course it's reduced, but If it rains all day I still generate about 20-25% of the power of a sunny day.

My arctic heat pump works great too. No matter how cold it gets. Good to minus 22 degrees F. No more gas heat bill. They work as AC in summer too. Cheap too, if you DIY the install. It's very easy if you are handy. You just need a licensed AC tech to evacuate and release the pre charged refrigerant to get the 10 year guarantee.

My roof is a basically new asphalt shingle roof in excellent condition. Know anything about shingle roofing? Every shingle has 4 or 5 nails in it. But they don't leak because they are under the next shingle. To install the solar brackets, they lift the shingle. Slide the bracket under it. Then screw it in the same area the shingle is nailed in. There are no exposed fasteners. It is almost impossible for it to leak even if they didn't use 10 tubes of roofing cement over the screws and to glue the shingles back down. Now the solar panels are protecting my roof from the damaging effects of the sun. The second floor of my house is naturally cooler because the sun is not beating directly on the roof.

As far as disposal of toxic waste goes. I will worry about that around 40 years from now. Besides we are talking about a twenty 1/2 panel solar system. The entire thing came on 1 pallet around 2 feet high. It doesn't take a lot of panels to generate a lot of power anymore. Take the glass out. Take the aluminum frame off. Take any wiring and circuit boards out. Scrap all that for $. You are left with the solar film. With the dismantling of the EPA just throw them in the garbage. LOL. But more then likely 40 years from now there will be an efficient way to recycle the valuable elements that make the panels toxic in the first place.

So with the reduction of my electric bill from going solar. Plus the reduction of my gas bill from heating with electric heat pumps. I am saving a couple thousand dollars a year on my utilities while paying for the system. When the loan is paid I will be saving close to 5K per year on utilities at current rates. But by the time the loan is paid off, the way things are going, rates will probably have doubled.. So I will be saving more like 10K per year.

How is that for food for thought?

I saw this somewhere, seems logical!

"People of great Intelligence never say, I'm very, very smart, or anything along those lines"

Why, because a person who is really Intelligent is secure in their Identity, no need to announce their intelligence is a widely accepted observation, their actions speak louder than words,

It's called Intellectual Humility, and contrasts with the "Dunning - Kruger effect" google It,

Where less competent Individuals tend to Overestimate their abilities,

Instead of bragging, Intelligent Individuals allow their actions and Insights demonstrate their Intelligence, preferring to listen and observe.

Peace, Love and Happiness, should be our REAL goals In Life.

[fixer68]

I saw this somewhere, seems logical!

"People of great Intelligence never say, I'm very, very smart, or anything along those lines"

Why, because a person who is really Intelligent is secure in their Identity, no need to announce their intelligence is a widely accepted observation, their actions speak louder than words,

It's called Intellectual Humility, and contrasts with the "Dunning - Kruger effect" google It,

Where less competent Individuals tend to Overestimate their abilities,

Instead of bragging, Intelligent Individuals allow their actions and Insights demonstrate their Intelligence, preferring to listen and observe.

Peace, Love and Happiness, should be our REAL goals In Life.

Tell this to the complete narcissist moron in office. Nowhere in any of my posts do I say I am smarter than anybody. Just not influenced by right or left wing politics.

'Listen To Smart People Like Me': Trump Reveals His True Feelings, Shows He Wants Everyone To Just Obey Him During Press Gaggle | Watch

[David - WI]

The warranty for your fancy chinese solar panels...

[fixer68]

The warranty for your fancy chinese solar panels...

7 years without a problem. I have not even had to clean them yet. That's right. I got them in 2018 during Trumps first term. Before he figured out how much more oil would pay for his support.

[David]

The levelized cost of electricity (LCOE) is a measure of the average net present cost of electricity generation for a generator over its lifetime. It is used for investment planning and to compare different methods of electricity generation on a consistent basis.

[kelvin523]

et al! yawn...

[NICE PAIR]

The warranty for your fancy chinese solar panels...

These are the Chinese panels, they THROW $$$ away! I think his kid got some kinda kick back!

[David]

One of my hobbies, left over from my working days, is checking the NHTSA recall database most days. Today was fire day. There were 9 recalls for vehicle fires. 6 gasoline, 2 EV (motor homes), and 1 diesel. The EV vehicles and 3 of the gasoline recalls came with 'park outside' warnings.

I will spare you the cut and paste of the details, although of course I have saved that for my own amusement.

Automotive fires are of course not limited to EVs, nor are the park outside warnings.

[David - WI]

Sure, but right now EV's account for 1.5% of the registered vehicles in the US and what, 85% of the fires and park outside warnings?

[David]

Sure, but right now EV's account for 1.5% of the registered vehicles in the US and what, 85% of the fires and park outside warnings?

LOL, I have no idea. I think I read that per vehicle, gas fires are more common, but sometimes possible to extinguish. But I am not certain. All I was saying is that today more gas cars got recalled.

[David - WI]

Yeah, I was just saying... at 1.5% of the total, you should hardly ever hear of an EV fire or park outsides.

[David]

Per Google AI: "Gasoline-powered vehicles are significantly more prone to catching fire than electric vehicles (EVs). For every 100,000 vehicles sold, gasoline cars experience about 1,530 fires, compared to just 25 fires for EVs. While less frequent, EV battery fires are often more difficult to extinguish due to their long-lasting, difficult-to-cool batteries and the different chemistry involved"

Kelly Blue Book also says gasoline cars catch fire more often. It's probably true.

I don't suppose there are enough old Lotus cars left to skew the data. Lotus used to be notorious for catching fire. I always disconnect the battery in mine when I park it inside.

[David - WI]

If true, then EV's are getting astronomically more (negative) news coverage... which is odd.

[David]

Maybe it’s because EV fires are hard to put out. I have seen a few gas and diesel fires, some burned to the ground. Maybe all EV fires burn to the ground.

My brother saw a Lotus burn.

[John S]

Maybe it’s because EV fires are hard to put out. I have seen a few gas and diesel fires, some burned to the ground. Maybe all EV fires burn to the ground.

My brother saw a Lotus burn.

I'd say it's moreso the sources of information one chooses. Choosing the source that matches ones personal narrative will usually get them the results they want to find. Happens a lot these days.