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    Definitely impressive. Actually, I was contacted by those guys last week and I'm going to be doing a detailed article about it.


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    Recent news states that a new idea for fire depts trying to extinguish ev fires is………., wait for it……., throwing a wet blanket over the entire car to attempt to smother it!

    True story!

    BTW, the 200 hp gas OB that holds those records, does weigh 65 lbs.

    But to be clear, I am fan of the technology, especially seeing the school kids do it.
    Way cool.

    So far though, w/the ev stuff, it always seems they don’t share the whole story.

    Yrs back while still in Fla, I went to a test n tune at Morroso Raceway.

    Was a tech class teacher there running a 944 Porsche that his class converted to electric.
    It was fast!

    Mid 10’s I think.
    I was all in on the thing.
    Told the teacher how impressed I was.

    Then I asked him about charging ��

    Can’t remember if it was every pass or every other but…., the front half of his trailer had a 4 banger Pinto motor mounted to a generator to power his battery charger!

    I grabbed another beer and went back to my lawn chair.

    Chaz’s head would have exploded!
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    Give me noisy gas powered engine any day, not a lying Biden electric motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    Recent news states that a new idea for fire depts trying to extinguish ev fires is………., wait for it……., throwing a wet blanket over the entire car to attempt to smother it!

    True story!

    BTW, the 200 hp gas OB that holds those records, does weigh 65 lbs.

    But to be clear, I am fan of the technology, especially seeing the school kids do it.
    Way cool.

    So far though, w/the ev stuff, it always seems they don’t share the whole story.

    Yrs back while still in Fla, I went to a test n tune at Morroso Raceway.

    Was a tech class teacher there running a 944 Porsche that his class converted to electric.
    It was fast!

    Mid 10’s I think.
    I was all in on the thing.
    Told the teacher how impressed I was.

    Then I asked him about charging ��

    Can’t remember if it was every pass or every other but…., the front half of his trailer had a 4 banger Pinto motor mounted to a generator to power his battery charger!

    I grabbed another beer and went back to my lawn chair.

    Chaz’s head would have exploded!
    Chaz = thinkin .. if they didn't hold their ears, it would be their ear drums that would have exploded ..

    Fast is a relative term. Quick is a whole different realm ...


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    Sub 9 sec. Car from the factory

    QUICK

    https://youtu.be/nfCWCIGfKN8


    https://youtu.be/ZkxRXh06HgM



    and it takes corners, try that with a rail bird

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott reierson View Post
    Thanks Cuda.

    That Lyten is some wild stuff. I got lost in a 3D Graphene Membrane once...

    I'm looking into a startup incubator to develop a licensed audio softwear/and speaker system, approved by Mercury marine that plugs into the the electric motors accelerator potentiometer circuit to play 260/280 exhaust sound in my new light weight 15" 300hp outboard. Probably will "Blue tooth pair" into compatible Marine audio systems.
    Doesn't BMW do that currently with their ICE cars? At any rate, what a cool project for these kids to get into. There's a bunch of youngins around me with bare bones EV retrofitted Hondas, Nissan's, etc. Not to mention the kids on the E bikes. My old ass was peddling down the 101 in Encinitas, and a squad of em came by me pulling mile long wheelies, lol. Don't matter the propulsion/ vehicle, seeing the younger generation hot rodding is cool AF IMO.

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    Very valid point!


    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post

    Fast is a relative term.

    Quick is a whole different realm ...



    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    While I also enjoy internal combustion as much as the next guy, the Princeton guys should be congratulated for achieving something really quite difficult. They have created something which seems to fit well in the currently available power to weight in both boat motor and battery availability, and have done it safely. Like it or loath it electric power is going to be developed further for marine propulsion in the short term. Mercury is already supplying a 150kw complete electric race motor so let’s see if that survives longer than Seven Marine after Volvos purchase.

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    The boys across the pond are trying stuff too….
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    Ya'll let me know when its ready. It needs to get me & 3 passengers (plus crap) in my XB2003 up river 15 miles & back plus a few passes at 85-100 by the beach to show off a couple times. When it's ready let me know what dealer I can pick it up at. Thanks. RR

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott reierson View Post
    "Mercury is already supplying a 150kw complete electric race motor"

    Hello techteam,

    Am I correct to assume that the 150 electric outboard you mention above is the The E1-X outboard designed by Mercury Racing that incorporates a 200hp (150 kW) electric motor and inverter, used on Mercury's prototype RaceBird hydrofoil?

    If its something else... Did Mercury issue a new product release bulletin of a stand alone 150hp electric outboard that can be seen by the public?
    Yes Scott that is exactly what I was referring to.

    https://www.e1series.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by techteam View Post
    While I also enjoy internal combustion as much as the next guy, the Princeton guys should be congratulated for achieving something really quite difficult. They have created something which seems to fit well in the currently available power to weight in both boat motor and battery availability, and have done it safely. Like it or loath it electric power is going to be developed further for marine propulsion in the short term. Mercury is already supplying a 150kw complete electric race motor so let’s see if that survives longer than Seven Marine after Volvos purchase.

    I completely agree. This is all about new technology and that's a topic I never grow tired of. I just spoke with one of the team leads, Andrew Robbins and I can tell just how dedicated they are to expanding the boundaries of electric power. He told me they did a 117 MPH pass, which would embarrass a lot of performance boats with a V6 on the transom. And that's with an electric motor that weighs 65 pounds. No matter how you slice it, that is impressive. I'll have an article up soon with some details about the boat, but in the meantime, I'll just say that these guys are going to keep pushing for more speed. I think that is an addiction we can all relate to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mach351 View Post
    The boys across the pond are trying stuff too….
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    So that’s something slightly different. The idea here was can you take an existing midsection, gearbox and cowling and convert it to electric using used recycled automotive hardware and battery pack components freely available on the inter web. Still early days but looks promising and despite concerns from officials it’s managed a few runs without catching fire or electrocuting anyone.

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    That is pretty interesting. Do you know who it is?

    Quote Originally Posted by techteam View Post
    So that’s something slightly different. The idea here was can you take an existing midsection, gearbox and cowling and convert it to electric using used recycled automotive hardware and battery pack components freely available on the inter web. Still early days but looks promising and despite concerns from officials it’s managed a few runs without catching fire or electrocuting anyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scott reierson View Post
    Hi Gregg, I look forward to that article. Thanks.

    Wonder who'll be highest bidder to get that US manufacturing license/profit sharing agreement partnership for that high density lightweight marine battery?

    MB'S 2021 acquisition of YASA UK has made some very cool Axial stuff. Will CATL, BYD and LG be left in the dust? Will a US player start pumping them out? That would be very cool.

    Gotta get a spool of AWG 2-5/0 DC wire to start my pre-rig

    I was able to discuss a lot of technical details about their boat for the article I am working on. I know everyone here really likes to see the hardware that makes things happen and, those guys are going to be competing in races with it as well.

    The motor and speed controller was designed by Flux Marine, and it is a custom setup for this particular boat. They had tested it at 300 volts and determined that running at 400 volts was ideal. The batteries are lithium-ion, which makes perfect sense due to their capacity and relative light weight. I think it would be most interesting to see how it would perform using lithium-polymer batteries. Without a driver, the boat weighs in around 800 pounds, which is impressive. Interestingly, the boat has a closed-loop cooling system.

    They're using a Speedmaster lower unit running in an overdriven configuration, which is really interesting. I'll have a lot more details here soon.


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