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    Renato Molinari in his #165 UIM R3 - 2 liter inboard class powered by the 2 liter V6 Evinrude looper racing 2 stroke "outboard motor"
    Renato won this World Championship race in Italy 1981.

    https://svera.se/blogg/pictures-of-t...t-race-engine/

    https://svera.se/blogg/the-evinrude-...rd-class-1981/




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    Nigell Mansell vs Tom Percival & Bob Spalding ... the 1982 vdeo


    UK: FORMULA ONE BOAT AND CAR COMPETE IN SPECIAL POWERSPORT CHALLENGE. | Reuters Archive Licensing (screenocean.com)



    Here are some of the JPS sponsored race drivers.

    JPS also, did a Powersport Challenge in May 1982.
    Nigel Mansell vs F1 race boat drivers Bob Spalding & Tom Percival in a drag race
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lake X Kid View Post

    UK: FORMULA ONE BOAT AND CAR COMPETE IN SPECIAL POWERSPORT CHALLENGE. | Reuters Archive Licensing (screenocean.com)



    Here are some of the JPS sponsored race drivers.

    JPS also, did a Powersport Challenge in May 1982.
    Nigel Mansell vs F1 race boat drivers Bob Spalding & Tom Percival in a drag race
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    There is an awful lot more to that little tale than ever was told !!!!!!!!! Main factor was the amount of money the tobacco company’s put into F1 car racing compared to the amount spent on boats ——-was supposed to be a straight challenge—-which then became best out of three ?????? Then best out of five ??????? But i will let others tell the tale !!!!!!!

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    RIP Bill.


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    Kiekhaefer Mercury Racing Team goes to race in Europe in 1967.

    Kiekhaefer Mercury Racing Team out of Lake X were the original factory drivers — from America who raced in Europe.
    In 1967 at the Paris 6 Hour race, they were co-drivers Odell Lewis & Johnny Bakos, and Steve Sirois & Roy Ridgell, and John Steinbeck & Mike Ramsey.

    Mercury Racing is currently celebrating 50-year anniversary. The aforementioned factory Lake X Team preceded and laid the groundwork for subsequent Mercury drivers going to race in Europe.
    Like ... Bill Seebold, Bob Hering, Don Pruett, Mike Downard, Earl Bentz, Reggie Fountain, Tom Stickle, and the race management team from Wisconsin of Gary Garbrecht and Bill Welsh
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    V6 Mercury T-3 race engine debuts in 1973 - piloted by Bob Spalding.

    Merc R&D engineers from Wisconsin bring over a secretive engine to Italy. The engine cowling did not come-off or was displayed to the Merc racing team. Bob Spalding in 1973 was in the USA as a test driver for the secretive V6 engine development.

    I transported Boat number 6, with the sealed-cowling engine from Como Italy to the race site in Germany. Engineer Ron Anderson and mechanic Rick LaMore rode with me in the Chevy transport van. The other two engineers flew to Germany.

    Renato Molinari
    in the pickle-fork boat 165 wins the race, and Bob Spalding with the Merc V6 engine comes in 2nd overall. Cees Vander Velden is in the process of flipping (see photo). Cees was okay.

    After the race Renato got into the Molinari hull Boat# 6 with the V6 engine and, took off down the river. Renato’s first test drive of the T-3 Merc V6 engine.

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    T2 vs T3 Debut

    Quote Originally Posted by Lake X Kid View Post
    Merc R&D engineers from Wisconsin bring over a secretive engine to Italy. The engine cowling did not come-off or was displayed to the Merc racing team. Bob Spalding in 1973 was in the USA as a test driver for the secretive V6 engine development.

    I transported Boat number 6, with the sealed-cowling engine from Como Italy to the race site in Germany. Engineer Ron Anderson and mechanic Rick LaMore rode with me in the Chevy transport van. The other two engineers flew to Germany.

    Renato Molinari
    in the pickle-fork boat 165 wins the race, and Bob Spalding with the Merc V6 engine comes in 2nd overall. Cees Vander Velden is in the process of flipping (see photo). Cees was okay.

    After the race Renato got into the Molinari hull Boat# 6 with the V6 engine and, took off down the river. Renato’s first test drive of the T-3 Merc V6 engine.

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    How did the T2's stand up to the new T3? Looks like Velden blew over trying to stay ahead of Spalding? Why wasn't an American driver chosen for the T3 debut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterZebra View Post
    How did the T2's stand up to the new T3? Looks like Velden blew over trying to stay ahead of Spalding? Why wasn't an American driver chosen for the T3 debut?


    I am not certain why Bob Spalding became the T-3 development driver testing in the USA. Bob at the time was like a Single Guy, even though he was still legally married.
    At the Bristol England race June 1973, I mentioned to Bob if you don’t give her (his wife was at the race) the attention she wants (and deserves) then she will look elsewhere.
    Bob told me, “I don’t care”.

    Therefore, I will surmise that Bob without martial commitment on his part, and extra time to commit to other endeavors (volunteered) or was selected by Merc management. Also, the T-3 development was not under Gary G. (Mercury Race Manager). The T-3 was under some engineering department at Mercury.

    P.S. I was on shore, and extended my hand and helped Cees off the rescue boat. Outside of being wet, and upset in his face, Cees was alright after his Flip.
    The black & white photo I posted of Renato & Bob leading the race pack, with Cees in the process of flipping, was taken by Brian Dewey (photographer from England).

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    On Track

    Quote Originally Posted by Lake X Kid View Post
    I am not certain why Bob Spalding became the T-3 development driver testing in the USA. Bob at the time was like a Single Guy, even though he was still legally married.
    At the Bristol England race June 1973, I mentioned to Bob if you don’t give her (his wife was at the race) the attention she wants (and deserves) then she will look elsewhere.
    Bob told me, “I don’t care”.

    Therefore, I will surmise that Bob without martial commitment on his part, and extra time to commit to other endeavors (volunteered) or was selected by Merc management. Also, the T-3 development was not under Gary G. (Mercury Race Manager). The T-3 was under some engineering department at Mercury.

    P.S. I was on shore, and extended my hand and helped Cees off the rescue boat. Outside of being wet, and upset in his face, Cees was alright after his Flip.
    The black & white photo I posted of Renato & Bob leading the race pack, with Cees in the process of flipping, was taken by Brian Dewey (photographer from England).
    Okay........that is kind of the story behind the driver selection but does not answer how the T2's did on the water against the T3?

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    TII vs T3 .....

    Quote Originally Posted by WaterZebra;34 05051
    Okay........that is kind of the story behind the driver selection but does not answer how the T2's did on the water against the T3?
    My $.02 ..... At that time there were just two drivers working out of the Oshkosh location, Hering & Spalding. Hering was considered the teams "Ace", so you don't want to assign him to experimental equipment that probably won't finish the race, you're looking to him for wins. Additionally, this really wasn't a debut. The Paris race was coming up and testing had gotten to the point to where it was time to see how it stacked up in a race. Garbrecht would have decided who the driver was going to be once engineering decided it was ready for a race test.
    Dick Lanpheer, the engineer overseeing the T3 development. said the dynos showed that the TII and T3 were very similar in power at that time. The race also showed they performed in a similar fashion.

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    Was 1974 the last year where the T2s and T3s co-existed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterZebra View Post
    Was 1974 the last year where the T2s and T3s co-existed?

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    Powerboat cover 1975. Firebird Lake, Arizona. Seebold with a T3, Bob Holloway in the background with a T2-X
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterse90 View Post
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    Powerboat cover 1975. Firebird Lake, Arizona. Seebold with a T3, Bob Holloway in the background with a T2-X
    Maybe they ran together (Holloway) in the race but it looks like the factory team (Seebold,Molinari and Hering) had already moved on to T3s. GG would hand pick the T3 outcome to assure corporate marketing and sales objectives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterZebra View Post
    Was 1974 the last year where the T2s and T3s co-existed?
    ...more likely to say one of the only years they co-existed. t2x's another year or two. t2's?...not so much...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FUJIMO View Post
    ...more likely to say one of the only years they co-existed. t2x's another year or two. t2's?...not so much...
    they did build T2X motors into 1975. T2’s were much fewer in total numbers built, pretty much in 1973.

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