22 progression with twins?

[Sutphil]

It isn't so much the buoyancy at rest as it is the balance and stability under way.

Personally I don't see a performance benefit for all of the added cost and complexity, and even the guy who builds the boat says it isn't a good idea.

Twins on a small boat definitely has a cool factor and and it all goes downhill from there. Just my $0.02.

I would agree. I think today the single vs twins debate has shifted to 28 - 30 ft V bottom boats.

[Pulse186]

Nice info, I did not know the transom was that tall!

Only because the V is so deep.

I specifically requested the small splash well because I think it looks better and figured I'd find a 25" motor. Ended up with a 20" and Kevin said that will work with 12" of setback plus I've read on the forums guys running a 20" motor with the small well.

On my boat with the jack plate all the way down the CL of the prop shaft is about 2.5" below the pad. Kevin said at speed you only need to be 1 to 1.5" above the pad so I won't have to raise the motor that high while running.

For the record it is a hydraulic Bob's plate and for towing I will have to raise the motor higher the more it is tilted forward.

[moatorbotin]

Only because the V is so deep.

I specifically requested the small splash well because I think it looks better and figured I'd find a 25" motor. Ended up with a 20" and Kevin said that will work with 12" of setback plus I've read on the forums guys running a 20" motor with the small well.

On my boat with the jack plate all the way down the CL of the prop shaft is about 2.5" below the pad. Kevin said at speed you only need to be 1 to 1.5" above the pad so I won't have to raise the motor that high while running.

For the record it is a hydraulic Bob's plate and for towing I will have to raise the motor higher the more it is tilted forward.

my be able to get away with towing vertically. On my 24LD I had a 20" with a platform/bracket and hydraulic plate and i could leave my motor vertical and just raise with the jackplate.

[Pulse186]

my be able to get away with towing vertically. On my 24LD I had a 20" with a platform/bracket and hydraulic plate and i could leave my motor vertical and just raise with the jackplate.

Definitely an option, will likely tilt at least a few degrees for the transom saver.

[Chummy]

my be able to get away with towing vertically. On my 24LD I had a 20" with a platform/bracket and hydraulic plate and i could leave my motor vertical and just raise with the jackplate.

depends on the trailer for that. With my Strongback you definitely have to trim it up a bit

[Jim Speros]

The 22 Velocity with twins ran great. It had an 80 gallon fuel tank that went under the dash. It has 30 Tabs and had a pretty good balance with engines on the transom. It would go 80 all those years ago. It would run circles around most larger boats in the Chesapeake Bay. It few straight. IMO a twin has more of a tendency to go straight then a single ever could.
I would widen splashwell before I would add any setback. Even with engines on the transom you may need to add some ballast forward.

I drove, throttled and even rode in the backseat. One of the funnest boats I've ever run. As a raceboat it would get run so hard n the ocean it would need the floor glassed back in in the bow a few times. I was in the back seat one ride with two others. As we passed the sea wall on the Severn at the Naval academy a trim tab cylinder exploded. It few rotating like a corkscrew. When it hit it tried to eject my buddy Gene. I held onto his legs and kept him from taking a swim. Anyway the stock cylinder was enough and she got the stainless competition cylinders. It was an ugly bad hop when the tab blew. Needed to make sure that never happened again.

IMO if you run brackets on a twin small boat it will go fast but, you will be leaving too much fun on the table not being able to march across some nice chop. Two things ruin a good boat. Over propping it and having the balance so light in the bow its always looking to the sky.

[TooStroked]

Only because the V is so deep.

I specifically requested the small splash well because I think it looks better and figured I'd find a 25" motor. Ended up with a 20" and Kevin said that will work with 12" of setback plus I've read on the forums guys running a 20" motor with the small well.

On my boat with the jack plate all the way down the CL of the prop shaft is about 2.5" below the pad. Kevin said at speed you only need to be 1 to 1.5" above the pad so I won't have to raise the motor that high while running.

For the record it is a hydraulic Bob's plate and for towing I will have to raise the motor higher the more it is tilted forward.

I'm nor so sure a P22 with twins would need 25" mids. As proof, I offer the following pics.

First, here's my P22 with the old 2.5/200 with a 25" mid:

BTW, Although the motor may appear to be off center, it's just the camera angle.

[TooStroked]

Next, here's my P22 with the new 4.6/250R and a 20" mid:

[baxter08]

How does it handle with that 250R?

[TooStroked]

How does it handle with that 250R?

Still working on the setup. That said, so far, the boat is still not "happy." Fast? Yes. Happy? No.

[Pulse186]

I'm nor so sure a P22 with twins would need 25" mids. As proof, I offer the following pics.

First, here's my P22 with the old 2.5/200 with a 25" mid:

Post an image of the front of the motor in relation to the motor well, probably looks a lot like mine. Move the motor over to fit twins and you are outside of the well, is that 20" still going to work? nope, not unless there is a ton a of setback or the back of the boat is modified to make room for the front of the engines.


Doesn't matter anyway, we will never see a P22 with twins.

[Pulse186]

Still working on the setup. That said, so far, the boat is still not "happy." Fast? Yes. Happy? No.

it will get there.

[Jim Speros]

There are a few big differences between a Velocity and a P22. Velocity has a notched transom and was built with twins in mind. Really can't compare the two.

[baxter08]

Post an image of the front of the motor in relation to the motor well, probably looks a lot like mine. Move the motor over to fit twins and you are outside of the well, is that 20" still going to work? nope, not unless there is a ton a of setback or the back of the boat is modified to make room for the front of the engines.


Doesn't matter anyway, we will never see a P22 with twins.

As much as I would hate to chop up a P22 I do believe there is one I know of that has taken some abuse that modifiying the splashwell would not be an issue.
so never say never.

[Pulse186]

As much as I would hate to chop up a P22 I do believe there is one I know of that has taken some abuse that modifiying the splashwell would not be an issue.
so never say never.

lol, have at it

The splash well doesn't need to be huge just enough to make room for the motors to move. As previously mentioned they can't be too far back so that should factor into your plans if you make it a reality.

Be sure to call Kevin at Progression if you do build it, he'll have a lot better info.