22 progression with twins?

**baxter08** · 05-02-2023, 08:48 AM

I don’t have the biggest concern for going 100 or over. Moderate chop would be the average weather for me, I thought that crazy acceleration and the odd top speed day.
Really I am considering letting my Grandsport go, keep my 260 so the idea of getting a P22 and a second 260 was buzzing in my head �� love my Allison, but getting rid of my Gulfstream center console and Allison for a mix of both worlds in one boat would be easier to stay up on.

**TooStroked** · 05-02-2023, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by baxter08

I don’t have the biggest concern for going 100 or over. Moderate chop would be the average weather for me, I thought that crazy acceleration and the odd top speed day.
Really I am considering letting my Grandsport go, keep my 260 so the idea of getting a P22 and a second 260 was buzzing in my head �� love my Allison, but getting rid of my Gulfstream center console and Allison for a mix of both worlds in one boat would be easier to stay up on.

A Progression 22 with a 2.5 is a really, really sweet handling boat. (Ask me how I know that.) And with a 2.5 / 260, you're talking low to mid 80's.

**Chummy** · 05-02-2023, 02:24 PM

I have a 22 Progression with a 300xs with DBR tune, I think if I had to change one thing it would be to have more acceleration so twins would solve that lol

**moatorbotin** · 05-03-2023, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by JBS

A bud put a 250R on his Triad. He said it had handling issues.
Maybe reach out to him on the V21 FB page before you pull the trigger?

I recall seeing pics of it, but never could find much info on how it did or didn't run.

I suspected handling issues.

Thought I read he took it back off.

JPEROG posted an Allison at one point with a new R motor. Haven't been able to find much on that one either.

**JBS** · 05-04-2023, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by moatorbotin

I recall seeing pics of it, but never could find much info on how it did or didn't run.

I suspected handling issues.

Thought I read he took it back off.

JPEROG posted an Allison at one point with a new R motor. Haven't been able to find much on that one either.

Yep, he didn't go into detail on handling issues. He did take the engine off

**hellbents-10** · 05-04-2023, 07:45 AM

Not to mention the 300r Has a larger gear case to drag through the water. The 300R will out accelerate a 300xs though!

A 300xs with a DBR tune and a smaller pitch prop will pull pretty hard though. When I run a 31-32 on my tuff it will run out of a turn and pull to 85-90 pretty hard.

**Pulse186** · 05-04-2023, 09:29 AM

Jim Umbarger put twin Chrysler 105's on 16 footer so I guess anything's possible, lol

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**baxter08** · 05-04-2023, 01:19 PM

So hypothetically if someone decided to go for it… what’s hall opinions with setup? Setback, prop choices, weight distribution? Be Interested to hear some opinions from 22P owners or others who have setup other boats similarly with twins.

**hellbents-10** · 05-04-2023, 01:35 PM

4" jackplates, keeping the engines as close as you can to the transom. Some cleavers for stern lift, and a ballast tank up front.

**Pulse186** · 05-04-2023, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by hellbents-10

4" jackplates, keeping the engines as close as you can to the transom. Some cleavers for stern lift, and a ballast tank up front.

You would have to run 25" motors and even then 4" setback might not be enough.

All P22s have a center splash well, small for 25" motors and a larger one for 20" motors. If you want enough room for rigging the motors would have to be high enough to clear the transom because they would be outside of the splash well.

My P22 has a 12" setback, has the small well but I'm running a 20" motor. If there were twins on there a 4" jack plate wouldn't be enough.

**Chummy** · 05-04-2023, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Pulse186

You would have to run 25" motors and even then 4" setback might not be enough.

All P22s have a center splash well, small for 25" motors and a larger one for 20" motors. If you want enough room for rigging the motors would have to be high enough to clear the transom because they would be outside of the splash well.

My P22 has a 12" setback, has the small well but I'm running a 20" motor. If there were twins on there a 4" jack plate wouldn't be enough.

post some more pictures of your boat!

**Pulse186** · 05-04-2023, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Chummy

post some more pictures of your boat!

I will one of these days.

**baxter08** · 05-04-2023, 05:26 PM

And assuming there was a small splash well, having more setback with a Armstrong/Stainless marine style setback to get some extra bouyancy would not fair too well with performance?

**Pulse186** · 05-04-2023, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by baxter08

And assuming there was a small splash well, having more setback with a Armstrong/Stainless marine style setback to get some extra bouyancy would not fair too well with performance?

It isn't so much the buoyancy at rest as it is the balance and stability under way.

Personally I don't see a performance benefit for all of the added cost and complexity, and even the guy who builds the boat says it isn't a good idea.

Twins on a small boat definitely has a cool factor and and it all goes downhill from there. Just my $0.02.