Four Stroke Mercury's how long before rebuilding?

**JPEROG** · 02-02-2022, 06:49 PM

Larry,

This is the first thing that came to mind after reading your post LOL; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CMmc3CJHnU

Joe

**Speed Jr.** · 02-02-2022, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by JPEROG

Larry,

This is the first thing that came to mind after reading your post LOL; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CMmc3CJHnU

Joe

Lol. Couldn't help myself! See ya soon brother......

**Chaz** · 02-02-2022, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Speed Jr.

Sure is a LOT of X and XS motors for sale! Here and all over FB. The 300R seems to be a clear winner on these bigger boats. Glenn is spot on. The new larger hulls with new power can do things that just wasn't possible with the older equipment. 15 years ago if someone said 32ft to 42ft hulls would run the speeds they run today with twin outboards most would laugh. My father loves his new florida pleasure boat with the Merc 300 V8. The dealer said they wouldn't even offer it as a single outboard back in the day with the old 2 strokes. The torque is impressive. Brad will pick up some MPH and lots of acceleration with 300Rs and keep making upgrades as he goes. He has been in enough modern powered boats to see where the gains are. Randy has rigged dozens of new and used Libs with the 300Rs. They are a consistent 5-10mph faster, on the higher end with passengers. Gotta tip your hat off to Merc for giving us something to play with. Yeah might seem pricey but hey most great experiences cost money. Could be a kick ass boat or a hot chick. Lol. Some people appreciate these things, others just bitch about things cause they tend to be unhappy people. Chaz you should just be happy to keep wrenching on the old stuff you love so much. No need to keep dogging the new stuff just because it goes against your narrative of trying to staying relevant. I just got rid of all my gauges in my boat. One big touch screen display now. Hope that doesn't upset you also. Maybe you can go off on a tangent of how gauges with all the wires, holes, light bulbs, fogging up lenses, etc are better? Im just prepping everyone for the next rambling post of yours that contributes nothing to the conversation at hand......

Jr.

JPEROG

Larry,

This is the first thing that came to mind after reading your post LOL; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CMmc3CJHnU

Joe

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Personal attack's .. My feelings are so .. no not really

Now I could say you two were just a couple of Mercury nutswingers ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYesrEKNMg

But I have much more class than that ..

Larry, I hope you didn't hafta go to college to understand that four strokes in general have more "inertia" (perceived as torque to some) than two strokes of the same size displacement, let alone half again bigger.

As far as little two-strokes on big boats, ya might aughta wanna look at some of the boats that came out of Rabco. You can find them on Parker's photo albums.

Of course there are no new technology two-strokes on the market, so does it feel like a solid win to claim they are the clear winner .. LOL One horse race Pppfffttt just who's lookin to be "relevant".

If you have the money ($500,000.00+) for a new 40+ foot boat with a handful of porkchops hangin off the back .. then as I said before .. God Bless

If you called them "a bit pricy" then I'm thinkin you don't have that kind of money. Your in good company .. most of us here including myself .. don't either. I'll bet there are even some who act like they do .. but in real life , they don't.
I went for a ride to lunch in a new Lambo not long ago .. yea it was on consignment .. Funny how looks can be deceiving ..

I think the sayin goes :
Yo eyes may shine, ya teeth may glitter .. but ya can't bull**** an old bull****er .

Is that a rant as you guys call it .. Am I a hater, LOL Judging by the way you avoid the key points made in statements I make as a "realist" .. I beginning to think your not allowed to respond without changing the subject ... or making it about me ...

**Stoker boy** · 02-02-2022, 09:51 PM

Maybe in 20 years they will have 80 ft boats doing 120 mph.

**Chaz** · 02-03-2022, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Stoker boy

Maybe in 20 years they will have 80 ft boats doing 120 mph.

I really surprised that they are "settling" for forty footers with measly little 300 and 450 V-8's when they can have 100 foot / 100 mph boats with bowling ba .. err .. Mercury V-12's right now !

In 20 years, they will either have 200 foot boats with V-24 outboards. Or history will more than likely repeat itself and it will be back to 20 foot boats with six cylinder two-strokes ..

**JPEROG** · 02-03-2022, 09:06 AM

In twenty years you can bet that there will be power capable of pushing boats faster then people care to go. We are already there and haven't even been exposed to stuff that continues to be released. I used to think a 170 mph boat was what I wanted, today it could be a reality but I have been there and experienced it--no thanks (the light weight boats give you the same thrill at much less speed). You also have more people to run with in that arena, less cost to buy, less cost to operate, less cost to insure and less cost of repairs. Now if I ever get things figured out to where I could have both as lots of guys do, while??? But for right now, I am more then thankful for what I have been provided and am able to provide. My new rig is being named R.P.R.T.

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I know I didn't do it all on my own but I also know the government didn't do it for me like Obama preached. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GjqdP6KSOE
Joe

**CUDA** · 02-03-2022, 09:38 AM

political... false statement, you had a rich dad.

**Stoker boy** · 02-03-2022, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Chaz

Or history will more than likely repeat itself and it will be back to 20 foot boats with six cylinder two-strokes ..

The way the world is headed I think it is more likely we will be back to birch canoes and spears.

**Stoker boy** · 02-03-2022, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by CUDA

political... false statement, you had a rich dad.

Mark 10:25

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Since you are an atheist Mr. CUDA I guess that means nothing to you.

**JPEROG** · 02-03-2022, 10:16 AM

As per usual one of the stooges makes a comment that he has absolutely ZERO knowledge of. You should ask or do some research before you type or talk. My dad is still alive #1. #2, any money that he had amassed has been eaten up over the last twelve years of cancer treatments, diagnosis, and continuous fight. I am with him today for treatments and visits in Jacksonville at Mayo. and we will fly to Mayo in Rockford MN. next week to see his main oncologist. He did get a chuckle when I told him some senile liberal bush wacker from Naples called him rich a few minutes ago.

He refuses to give up and we were really in a bad spot about a year ago "he made a claim that this was my last boat ride"--we were on my tri toon and hit a small wake that nobody else really even felt. The picture below is from two weeks ago when I got him a new Indian Scout to ride. He has tipped his H.D. dresser over several times now trying to move it around and its only a matter of time before he or someone else was hurt. I told him that I bought him a new Indian with a real low seat height but it had a 100 hp, was light weight, and would still grab his attention. He said "those are called girl scouts" LOL... I am looking forward to getting him in the 450 D.W. for blast on the St. Johns.

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Joe

**river rocket** · 02-03-2022, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by JPEROG

As per usual one of the stooges makes a comment that he has absolutely ZERO knowledge of. You should ask or do some research before you type or talk. My dad is still alive #1. #2, any money that he had amassed has been eaten up over the last twelve years of cancer treatments, diagnosis, and continuous fight. I am with him today for treatments and visits in Jacksonville at Mayo. and we will fly to Mayo in Rockford MN. next week to see his main oncologist. He did get a chuckle when I told him some senile liberal bush wacker from Naples called him rich a few minutes ago.

He refuses to give up and we were really in a bad spot about a year ago "he made a claim that this was my last boat ride"--we were on my tri toon and hit a small wake that nobody else really even felt. The picture below is from two weeks ago when I got him a new Indian Scout to ride. He has tipped his H.D. dresser over several times now trying to move it around and its only a matter of time before he or someone else was hurt. I told him that I bought him a new Indian with a real low seat height but it had a 100 hp, was light weight, and would still grab his attention. He said "those are called girl scouts" LOL... I am looking forward to getting him in the 450 D.W. for blast on the St. Johns.

Joe

Great story of perseverance Joe and an awesome photo. God bless you and your father. Enjoy our frigid state next week. I will be in Florida all week.

**John S** · 02-03-2022, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Speed Jr.

Sure is a LOT of X and XS motors for sale! Here and all over FB..

Out of the multitude of things the whiners have gotten wrong aboot this new generation of motors, there is one thing they got right. There will be an abundance of the older gen motors they love, which should make them happy as clams. Weird to come to a fun and cool thread about the sport you love, and just **** all over it. Simple fact is that if you're into motorsports, any and everything should at least be interesting to you. Don't have to love it, but whining aboot it seems odd to me. And mercury didn't leave the small boat hi perf market, the boat manufacturers left because there was no demand. Time moves on.

**Stoker boy** · 02-03-2022, 05:26 PM

I don’t think the whiners as you call them are stopping anyone from purchasing the new technology motors. People have the right to purchase one just like people have a right to put them down.

**engineermike** · 02-03-2022, 06:40 PM

The problem is that “those who aren’t interested in modern 4-stroke power” sure are interested in “participating in” (crapping all over) any and every thread started to discuss 4-strokes. I’ve never understood this behavior. I’m not interested in Diesel engines but you won’t find one diesel thread anywhere on the internet that I went into and explained to them how bad I think their engines are. If you don’t like them or don’t want one, fine, but have some courtesy and don’t ruin it for everyone who is interested.

**JPEROG** · 02-03-2022, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by engineermike

The problem is that “those who aren’t interested in modern 4-stroke power” sure are interested in “participating in” (crapping all over) any and every thread started to discuss 4-strokes. I’ve never understood this behavior. I’m not interested in Diesel engines but you won’t find one diesel thread anywhere on the internet that I went into and explained to them how bad I think their engines are. If you don’t like them or don’t want one, fine, but have some courtesy and don’t ruin it for everyone who is interested.

Mike,

Sounds like I need to get a new mustang and send your way for a few months. JB says you have it figured out

Joe