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06-10-2020, 05:10 PM #1
Dumb Electrical question so I will start simple...Merc XR6 2.5
Is it common for a modified HiPo motor to have the voltage regulators there but none of the wires plugged into anything ? In other words just a mount for the solenoid plate is the only purpose. Let's start with that and see what I get.
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22R
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06-10-2020, 06:43 PM #2
My thinking if you didnt use v reg would put too much in batt and cause more woes
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06-10-2020, 08:07 PM #3
A lot of guys don’t run the regs. on 16 amp systems that are running electric fuel pumps, efi, or many electrics in boat to eliminate a problematic area, and its hard to overcharge a battery with only 16 amps unless it has very few consumers. (That is if it 16, being wasn’t stated, just guessing from the Hi-po remark). But has to have at least a rectifier.
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06-10-2020, 09:28 PM #4
Totally depends if 9/16 amp or 40. Must have a rectifier to get from ac to dc. Voltage reg is never a bad idea but not always needed
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06-10-2020, 10:06 PM #5
Just to clarify if it’s a 40, gotta have em
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06-11-2020, 05:04 AM #6
I appreciate the responses guys....now for the rest of the story. So I have a 1992 Merc XR6 on a Allison XB2002 that i have owned for 20 years. The motor was modded by Dwayne Roberie before I bought it. It has a Holley Red electric fuel pump that runs when key is on. Is there a way to tell what AMP stator you have ? In the 20 years I have had it the only thing done to the motor was a new stator and switch boxes around 2001-2002 by Simon Outboards locally. It has run and run and never a motor issue ( I joke that Lexus must have built it). I upgraded my driver console and needed to fill a extra hole so I put a Volt gauge in it. I have never paid attention to it much off idle but the other day while I was plowing I noticed it was reading like 16-17 volts and I thought that seems high and odd so off to the net to research and I found a lot of interesting stuff about the clear regs vs the newer black fused ones and etc. So I figured I must have a regulator going bad. I pull my cover and notice that mine are not hooked up 5 wires coming out of each going to nothing. Knowing the motor was modded I start thinking maybe the voltage has always been like this and I never noticed it. The XR6 has run so good for so long I am getting skeptical that it can continue so I think I may be trying to solve a problem that does not exist but I figured here on S&F I would get some good answers. I assume the stator must be a 16 amp and the Tach is tied to the rectifier to drive it. Again this may have been a dumb question but I have not had any issues in so long I just was wigged out by the volt reading and I also want to notice next time out what my Garmin is reading on voltage to verify the analog gauge.
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22RLast edited by 22R; 06-11-2020 at 05:07 AM.
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06-11-2020, 06:03 AM #7
Being you said “each of them” indicates there’s two regs. And if ya getting 16-17 volts running a Holley and a garmin, gonna say ya got a 40 amp. 16 amp will only have 2 yellow wires, 40 will have 4. Either way that’s too many volts and needs to be regulated. If ya need any help, give me a shout and we’ll help ya get straightened out.
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06-11-2020, 07:04 AM #8
Just throwing this out there, there isn’t by any chance another set of regs on it, where it could have been upgraded or changed over to a different style and the old regulators just where not removed by any chance? Where’s your yellow wires from the stator going/hooked to?
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06-11-2020, 07:31 AM #9
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06-11-2020, 07:35 AM #10
I’m thinking if Simon was the last one to fool the stator, he didn’t just bypass 40 amp regulators, he’s got sumpton else going on. He knows what’s going on.
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06-11-2020, 11:22 AM #11
Follow the yellow stator leads to where ever they connect, if they are on a small black plastic box with 3 terminals with hooked up to a grey and red wire. Pretty sure he converted it to 16amp and just left the regulators on the coil bracket.
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06-11-2020, 03:45 PM #12
Winner Winner !! Found just as you described. Now if when I compare the volt reading from my Garmin to the analog gauge if the volts are really 16-17 range is that a problem and how could it be if it has run this well for 20 years and no battery issues ???? I will try to add pics. I appreciate everyones input. i don't know why these damm pics are sideways Arghh
Last edited by 22R; 06-11-2020 at 04:12 PM.
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06-11-2020, 04:24 PM #13
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I used to run my dash lights and nav lights to burn off some volts. Would stay at 14-15. 16 amp w/rectifier. Way back then would have to add water to batt after every run.
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06-11-2020, 07:42 PM #14
if ya talkin' 'bout tha little square thing above tha switch boxes then ya a little off.. not a regulator its a rectifier.. something ya gotta have with a 16 amp system..... a 40 amp will not have that.
leavin' tha two reg/rec. mounted is a good way ta "store 'em" in case ya wanna ever go back ta a 40..........
Last edited by tlwjkw; 06-11-2020 at 07:48 PM.
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06-11-2020, 08:27 PM #15
a little off on what ? I just stated it was exactly wired as he described whether it is a regulator or rectifier 16 or 40 I am still confused but I assume it has operated like this since I bought it. Sorry if I don’t follow ya take another swipe I graduated from a rural High School
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