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    Wink Hookers 101

    Not much on here about boats that hook, even though most of us aren't gonna do a 70mph U-turn around a cone for the heck of it.
    I own a Stratos 200 VT Rocket and an STV, here say says these are the two worse boats for hooking. I've never hooked one or came close.
    But anyway. What is the main cause for hooking?
    My guess it's when your taking a hard left turn and your inside sponse touches the water and the vertical inside edge grabs the water with incredible "traction" and doesn't let go. That's my guess. If this is the case how can you control hooking and how are newer boats designed down there to control hooking.
    Can you hookers please elaborate on this.
    I also see a thousand one liners and jokes coming.
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    Allison's are nicknamed "hooker boats" , I would say those are the worst.

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    Krazymaan, your hear say is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SANTAFE View Post
    Krazymaan, your hear say is wrong.
    You should elaborate because your answer doesn't help much.
    I've had idiots tell me these boats belong in a shreader.
    I'd like to learn more about hooking.
    If I don't ask any questions, I'll never learn anything.

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    Byuboyz had a couple threads about Allisons hooking...I have seen a tunnel boat do a "light" hook but the Allisons are the one I hear the most stories about. I have hooked mine once and had several "saves".
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    I can't imagine anyone saying that. I am not familiar with the Stratos, but STV's are fine boats, and not prone to hooking. I am not saying that you can't hook one, but they are definitely not known for that.
    I am no expert. This is just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SANTAFE View Post
    I can't imagine anyone saying that. I am not familiar with the Stratos, but STV's are fine boats, and not prone to hooking. I am not saying that you can't hook one, but they are definitely not known for that.
    I am no expert. This is just my opinion.
    I posted a photo of my STV after I got it and someone said it belongs in a shreader and its the crappiest boat ever built. I told him it was probably driver error and he didn't like that too much at all. Too bad for him.
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    I actually understand what makes an Allison hook. Both of my boats are tunnel hulls and people say the stratos is notorious for hooking and so are the Older STV's like mine. So id like to know some details.
    If I don't ask any questions, I'll never learn anything.

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    DON'T CHOP THE THROTTLE and you'll be fine! Sometimes they hook if you break a skeg or prop or steering but other than inspecting your equipment regularly there is not much you can do about that. My 200VT tried to hook a couple times but it wasn't that big of deal.....it was my fault for abruptly letting off the throttle. In my Stratos I found that I could get it to straighten back out by getting back on the gas quickly. Allisons are a different animal and can turn for various reasons but I think the main cause for the v-tunnel & stv's is chopping. Tail lifts while the nose drops and snags water. That's all I got for ya.
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    only stv prone to hook is the pro comp with the drag bottom. a buddy of mine had one with a 260. the ecu plug came loose and it shut off and driver got ejected! you just cant chop the throttle on this perticular model. he baught it as a all around lake boat and it was never intended to be one so it didnt end up well. the boat got barrel rolled a year after at low speed and he sold it after that. the wrong guy with the wrong boat doing what the boat dosent want to do..
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    Quote Originally Posted by StratosVT View Post
    DON'T CHOP THE THROTTLE and you'll be fine! Sometimes they hook if you break a skeg or prop or steering but other than inspecting your equipment regularly there is not much you can do about that. My 200VT tried to hook a couple times but it wasn't that big of deal.....it was my fault for abruptly letting off the throttle. In my Stratos I found that I could get it to straighten back out by getting back on the gas quickly. Allisons are a different animal and can turn for various reasons but I think the main cause for the v-tunnel & stv's is chopping. Tail lifts while the nose drops and snags water. That's all I got for ya.
    This pretty much sums it up-I have a remote water pick up on my stv and I run the case about an inch higher then most with my 10 inch set back. If I chop the throttle, it turns right. Brent lost power with the mod-vp at 130 a few weeks ago and nothing bad happened "very lucky in my opinion". V-front entry boats that transfer to a running pad are a different story, when they grab water with the front or fall of the pad, it is going to typically march in the direction that the bow is now headed and it will take fast correct steering and power input to correct it.

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    This is good info. Maybe I'm not so Krazy after all.
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    Most boats will hook from the lower being too high to keep the ass from passing the front. Front is steering the azz. Instead of the other way around.

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    I reckon you can just about make any boat spin out, higher the gearbox the easier it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    This pretty much sums it up-I have a remote water pick up on my stv and I run the case about an inch higher then most with my 10 inch set back. If I chop the throttle, it turns right. Brent lost power with the mod-vp at 130 a few weeks ago and nothing bad happened "very lucky in my opinion". V-front entry boats that transfer to a running pad are a different story, when they grab water with the front or fall of the pad, it is going to typically march in the direction that the bow is now headed and it will take fast correct steering and power input to correct it.

    I lost power at 91mph in the little tunnel with a non-ratcheting gearcase. I think the gearcase actually saved my by acting like an drag chute. The boat basically slid around but stayed relatively straight. Ground wire had come off the ECU.

    Joe
    I lost power at 91mph in the little tunnel with a non-ratcheting gearcase. I think the gearcase actually saved my by acting like an drag chute. The boat basically slid around but stayed relatively straight. Ground wire had come off the ECU.

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