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[powerabout]

400ftlbs out of 2 ltr
thats some boost pressure
cant believe that would last

[GENE LANHAM]

Of course it's possible,
get an engine that does the job straight out of the box, if you want 200 or 500hp, get it? Problems arrive when you start " tweaking" a 200 up to 300' The reliability goes down the drain.
any builder would do you a one off boat, but not cheap, they never were.

We were fascinated by that concept over 40 years ago. Bill Sirois and Doug Janish did it with a 20' Jones and a 427" aluminum Chevy----

[jackie wilson]

Hiya Gene, That was what we did------we progressed !!!!!!!

Remember reading in SPEED "N SPRAY about a couple of dudes sitting round a pot bellied stove and dreamed of putting a 427 Ford in a cut down Sanger [or similar] and taking it to "THE ELSINORE 500" and bringing home the bacon !!!!!!!!
Think it was RUDY RAMOS and ???????????????????
They did just that !!!!!!
They were 10,000 miles away in California and i just wanted a piece of that------took me a while but i lived the dream. JW.

[Mark Poole ModVP]

Jackie, you may remember an innovative guy named Bob Nordskog. Famous for taking twin outboard tunnels and turning them into race winning I/O boats. Actually, I'm surprised that the class has not been resurrected. Speeds over 120 mph in the 1970's.

[jackie wilson]

Jackie, you may remember an innovative guy named Bob Nordskog. Famous for taking twin outboard tunnels and turning them into race winning I/O boats. Actually, I'm surprised that the class has not been resurrected. Speeds over 120 mph in the 1970's.

Contrary to popular belief-----i was friends with most of the OMC guys-----Bob Nordskog and Ted May were a rare pair of fun loving folk.
Fondest memory is the pair of them sitting with their backs to the pit wall in Paris, and Bob had a pair of huge sunglasses on with windscreen wipers rushing back and forth.
Pruett and i used to hang out at most race meetings ,most of the OMC guys had a lot of time for him-------through him i got to know most of the U.S. drivers
Mark, i bought a Jones 20' with a Keith Black motor for $3,500 dollars------on a beautiful 4 wheel aluminium trailer from Garbrecht---took it home and built the first ----BROWN/WILSON,------Cosworth inboard from looking at it for a month.
Then sold it to my Mechanic Chas Shooter who died recently-------the motor is still on his workshop bench today.
Ran the Jones in the Chasewater 500 but could not get it to chug more than 70 mph---no matter what-----decided it had to go.
Have spent many happy hours in Havasu and Parker with the likes of Tommy Posey, Johnny Sanders, Jimbo, and Ron Hill----Ted May and Bob N. When you were with Pruett----all doors were wide open, specially at a shrimp or clam bake----OMC were bloody good and successful at that---If only the Damned wankel project had been half as succes//////-------sorry----that was me being bitchy----should "Delete" that but you and me know i'm not going to.
The concept is good, and with reasonable costs, that is until some twat puts a full blown racing motor like an F1 DFV and kills the class.
Think you may be a tad overoptimistic expecting 120 mph.
The Cosworth on a good day, with a tailwind, and running downhill, could only do 125 MPH. before the left sponson started to wave to the crowd.----it was still 30 mph quicker than any other KT at Parker in 1978 and we had the clubfoot and a bean can for a prop.

[Rotary John]

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If only the Damned wankel project had been half as succes.
Jackie, you only wish your abomination was half as sucessful as the rotary project. It won 6 of the 8 races it entered. What was your tally?

[jackie wilson]

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If only the Damned wankel project had been half as succes.
Jackie, you only wish your abomination was half as sucessful as the rotary project. It won 6 of the 8 races it entered. What was your tally?[/QUOTE]
'bout the same Johno----except mine NEVER missed a beat, or failed to finish, and the total cost was about the same as a pair of crankshafts for that misguided exercise in money laundering.--------the wankel experiment that failed miserably in every respect.
Was it worth the millions of dollars poured into a hopeless quest that failed ?????
Guess you must be the only guy in the world that thought my effort was 'AN ABOMINATION'. and it never bankrupted the parent company which was me of course. Kind regards and best wishes Jono---nice to see you on track again and STILL flogging the dead horse.
I just put it down to a touch of green eye

[Rotary John]

If only the Damned wankel project had been half as succes.
Jackie, you only wish your abomination was half as sucessful as the rotary project. It won 6 of the 8 races it entered. What was your tally?

'bout the same Johno----except mine NEVER missed a beat, or failed to finish, and the total cost was about the same as a pair of crankshafts for that misguided exercise in money laundering.--------the wankel experiment that failed miserably in every respect.
Was it worth the millions of dollars poured into a hopeless quest that failed ?????
Guess you must be the only guy in the world that thought my effort was 'AN ABOMINATION'. and it never bankrupted the parent company which was me of course. Kind regards and best wishes Jono---nice to see you on track again and STILL flogging the dead horse.
I just put it down to a touch of green eye[/QUOTE]
Jackie:
Seems in just of a couple of earlier posts you complained about a broken hose and you didn't finish. I also recall several other posts saying similar things. So for you to try to tell the world you never failed to finish is just another crock of your crap. And by the way, OMC was making record sales and profits while the rotary program was going on. Hope all is well with you and your family.

[Mark75H]

Jackie, you may remember an innovative guy named Bob Nordskog. Famous for taking twin outboard tunnels and turning them into race winning I/O boats. Actually, I'm surprised that the class has not been resurrected. Speeds over 120 mph in the 1970's.

Actually it has been resurrected. Haven't you seen the new "F1" "outboard"

[jackie wilson]

'bout the same Johno----except mine NEVER missed a beat, or failed to finish, and the total cost was about the same as a pair of crankshafts for that misguided exercise in money laundering.--------the wankel experiment that failed miserably in every respect.
Was it worth the millions of dollars poured into a hopeless quest that failed ?????
Guess you must be the only guy in the world that thought my effort was 'AN ABOMINATION'. and it never bankrupted the parent company which was me of course. Kind regards and best wishes Jono---nice to see you on track again and STILL flogging the dead horse.
I just put it down to a touch of green eye

Jackie:
Seems in just of a couple of earlier posts you complained about a broken hose and you didn't finish. I also recall several other posts saying similar things. So for you to try to tell the world you never failed to finish is just another crock of your crap. And by the way, OMC was making record sales and profits while the rotary program was going on. Hope all is well with you and your family.[/QUOTE]
As usual Johno ------you don't read the item before jumping in and drowning in your own bilge water.
Look again and you will see the hose split on my 2 litre cosworth in Amsterdam in 1964----some 4 years before we even thought about putting a DFV in a boat.----We went to Parker and did the whole seven hours and were still running strong at the end---unlike the pair of wankels that figured briefly for a couple of laps and then died !!!!!!
Would appreciate it if you would point out the other posts i am supposed to have said "similar things"-----but i think these are figments of imagination and wistful thinking on your part.

I tell the whole world once again------WE FINISHED EVERY RACE WE STARTED-----------WE NEVER HAD A FAILURE OF ANY DESCRIPTION----THE LOWLIEST POSITION WE FINISHED WAS FIFTH AND THAT WAS DUE TO DRIVER ERROR.
SO YOU FINISHED IN 6 RACES EH !!!!!! Big feckin deal----------how did that work out----$1,000,000 a pop or was it even more????
"Crock of crap" eh Johno. ------------ you want to know what a real crock of crap is---i will tell you.
A 100 year old design that has a fatal flaw------Daimler Benz-----Mercedes-----BMW-----GMC------Mazda ----NSU-----and probably dozens more who all dropped it because it was and still is a crock of crap.
All you said you needed was "Advancement in Metallurgy" to give us a metal strong enough so the rotor didn't wear out-----hell's teeth they went to the moon and back----they have PLUTOTITURAINIMALLOY AND IT STILL WON'T WORK.
Question Willabee------------How many races did the T1/2/3/ races win----the whole program did not cost a fraction of the wankels budget.
Last time i looked Mercury had not gone tits up either !!!!!!!
But then again they never would have paid $12,500 for a crank----they probably have someone in charge of FINANCE.
In the words of Winnie Churchill some time ago---NEVER-----IN THE FIELD OF HUMAN CONFLICT-----WAS SO MUCH SPENT OUT---- FOR SO LITTLE RETURN.

You have a nice day now Johno-----belated Merry christmas and a prosperous new year.

[willabee]

...... Actually, I'm surprised that the class has not been resurrected. Speeds over 120 mph in the 1970's.

I'm with you ..... it was the best class of APBA/UIM racing period! Big ol' four cycle, oil burnin', fuel consumin', noise makin' tunnel boats runnin' past everything on the race course was as f'in good as it got! I loved the stacked Wings and OZ was absolutely thrilling, but if only one class was allowed to survive, the KT has my vote.

You are also right about the speeds, but just a tad off on the when. The I/O Bill Cooper ran at Elsinore in 1969 bested the 120 mph mark.

[jackie wilson]

I'm with you ..... it was the best class of APBA/UIM racing period! Big ol' four cycle, oil burnin', fuel consumin', noise makin' tunnel boats runnin' past everything on the race course was as f'in good as it got! I loved the stacked Wings and OZ was absolutely thrilling, but if only one class was allowed to survive, the KT has my vote.

You are also right about the speeds, but just a tad off on the when. The I/O Bill Cooper ran at Elsinore in 1969 bested the 120 mph mark.

If your right with Cooper running 120 plus in 1969' I have to tell you, the KT's in Parker nine years later were way off the mark.
doubt much if they were running into three figures.
then again, there were only six of them running.

[willabee]

----it was still 30 mph quicker than any other KT at Parker in 1978 and we had the clubfoot and a bean can for a prop.

You're probably not exaggerating for a change! Bob Nordskog set a bunch of records for average speeds in his diesel powered KT at Parker in 78. They were all in the 60/65 mph range. You probably did have 30 on him.

[jackie wilson]

You're probably not exaggerating for a change! Bob Nordskog set a bunch of records for average speeds in his diesel powered KT at Parker in 78. They were all in the 60/65 mph range. You probably did have 30 on him.

Itchy bitchy, having a bad day are we William? Peggy gave you cold coffee this morning,wrong side of the bed was it. What's with the sarky warky ?
did say "ALL THE KT's.
There was a Seebold with a hot KEITH BLACK lump in it that was not too shabby.
Thing I remember most about the '78 Parker was all the help I had from all the fans, they were all magnificent, I owed them a lot.
GG and Hetzel got me out of a big hole !!!!!!!
You and GG didn't do a lot to help the KT'S when you ran the Cosworth/Seebold at the marine stadium in '79.

[willabee]

.....You and GG didn't do a lot to help the KT'S when you ran the Cosworth/Seebold at the marine stadium in '79.

If we're trying to be accurate ..... it was 1978, it was a Cosworth/Molinari and I wasn't there.

But, apparently you were! I wanted to be sure of the date, so I looked it up in Powerboat and found the article in the August, 1978 edition. John Crouse covered the June event which also included a big GN race, the Ancient Age Aqua Speed Classic!

Keith Duckworth was there to watch over his 183 in./450 HP (WOW) Cosworth/Ford making it's US debut. Crouse added that "countryman Jackie Wilson had been driving a similar rig in Europe classified as an outboard. According to Wilson who says the relative lightness of the engine and MerCruiser outdrive allows it to be lifted out as one unit, it's a legal outboard engine in Europe according to UIM rules".

If that's an outboard, ........