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Thread: Warren Duke.....LOTO
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09-12-2025, 05:55 PM #61
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09-12-2025, 08:24 PM #62
I saw pics of the 22 STV plug back around 2000. Two years ago I asked the same guy that had those pics what happened to that project. He said it was all scraped. I heard the liability with the go fast boats was the main reason.
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09-12-2025, 11:05 PM #63Larry Gempp Jr.
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09-13-2025, 06:41 AM #64
Yeah I was taking Chit because I didn't know that Motec was available, From JoeP doing 130 something the year prior o Warrens 151 is so spectacular that I couldn't understand, I was told by a past motor inspector for the 300 SS offshore class that he had to be making over 600 HP, so he had 500 hp per side factory, to over 600, something this old guy, out of the loop just didn't add up?
I wish Merc would make available a ratcheting HP gear case, because at the speeds these Folks are attaining, to have a motor lock up, looks like a BIG hidden Danger that no one is talking about, If anyone has a failure It's going to Catastrophic, I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but they have, so so quickly entered a whole new area of concern, I just wish mother Merc will some how address this problem,
This group is very wealthy and can afford anything they want, Obviously, I only beg that it's done with the uttermost care, Safety being Key,
doing this bragging rights, One bad accident could shut this event down, or make drastic changes, like any boat capable of going over X speed, would only be allowed in a true capsule race boat, giving a much better chance of survival.
Going over 150mph in a pleasure, open boat is Insane, the Cockpit construction safety regulations for offshore was enhanced because
the drivers were still getting killed with the boats hitting the water upside down, the plastic that's now used now is very thick, with more reinforcement overall.
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09-13-2025, 09:32 AM #65
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09-13-2025, 11:02 AM #66
LOL, we tried it. At a wimpy stock 450hp form it wasn't the right boat. At 600 it won't be any better. Even if the motor was lighter. I have all the big parts here to do it. My 450R when converted will go on a different boat. The 300R is a better motor for the Allison.
I think 600hp on a 21 liberator, built light, with single center steer seat and race hatch in the back would be pretty hard to beat for a drag boat, lake racer, and river runner.Allison XB21 2+2
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09-13-2025, 12:35 PM #67
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09-14-2025, 08:12 AM #68
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Sorry Chaz but you could not be more wrong on this one! Those motec kits are a bargain! The development time to make that all work with can data for smartcraft/garmin/simrad etc... Also the complexity of variable cam timing on an DOHC engine. Sorry you poking around on a tune with PPH, pulsewidth or a VE table does not cut it. I am sure you timing tables look like a locked out distributor too haha! Its all sooooooooooo easy.
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09-14-2025, 01:33 PM #69
Just because you can't do something, doesn't mean that I am wrong.
Motec did step away from their standard gold box that I'm use to seeing for the last 15 years or so and made a black direct bolt on unit.
No doubt they put in some effort to make it work, but as we both know they are only using about a tenth of it's overall capacity. Is it worth $6000.00+ The air inlet grate / end cap and pully another $4000.00
A set of Diamond pistons for $2500.00 Rods that look like they were built by Pauter for about the same. Might be worth it to you .. once again, I work too hard for my money and I've been around long enough to know what things really cost ..
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