22 Velocity weight?

[Greg G]

A ton of valuable info in this thread.

[smiklos@sunprint]

Tomantoys was talking about my boat. A bit light in his post but I did take a hefty amount out. The floor and stringers and existing interior were completely waterlogged but the core was actually perfect all over the boat Mine was a 90' so it was also a regal boat. After gutting it all, interior included, and getting rid of all the cuddy cabin up front I shed 711lbs, as I know because that's what my dump weigh bill ticket showed when I got rid of it all.

After I stripped it all I weighed the boat as you see in the first picture, the shell of the boat was 1141lbs. I added 280 lbs worth of rebuild materials (all okoume) to redo the transom, stringers, knees, floor, and carpet. That made the bare hull, gas tank, steering, no interior 1421lbs.

The second picture shows when I dunked it in the water with just the jackplate on.

The last picture showed how it sat ready to roll with 30gal of gas.

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Great information thanks! I am about 330 lbs heavier with 65 gallon tank (empty) . I have a full rear bulkhead and probably over built the dash. With a 300 R will be happy with 80-85

[waveryd]

I know someone who weighed a 1985 model last year with 300X, 12" Porta bracket, tabs, interior, electronics, ready to run: 3450 lbs. Not sure how much fuel was in the boat or if ballast was in the bow at the time. Heavier than I thought it would be but that is a real number.

[smiklos@sunprint]

I know someone who weighed a 1985 model last year with 300X, 12" Porta bracket, tabs, interior, electronics, ready to run: 3450 lbs. Not sure how much fuel was in the boat or if ballast was in the bow at the time. Heavier than I thought it would be but that is a real number.

That makes me feel better! Thank you! Any Idea how fast? I am using 380 Kplanes they are heavy but I have Carbon Fiber plates so they weigh similar to a 280 Kplane.
Thanks
Steve

[FUJIMO]

...the old 22's needed no tabs of any kind, unless its a serious offshore raceboat. the very small number of new boat customers that asked steve about installing tabs, he talked them out of them every time, for a reason. now, this would apply to any & all size & brand "two-cycle" outboard rigged boats back then, including all the single V-8 johnrude installs. installing a new modern day four-cycle...well...who knows. new 22 i/o boats never needed tabs either. can't recall a one, that went out with tabs. again, boats just did not need them. it was rare. the twin 2.4 offshore race 22's...yes...they usually got k-plane tabs. they were about the only ones...

[FUJIMO]

...when steve went broke & sold out to regal, production was at its peak on the 22's, coming out of pompano @ 2 1/2 22's per week. this included the newest 22 center console version & 22 bass boat...

[waveryd]

Not sure what top end was as the boat was set up to go 60 mph. I believe the tabs on this boat were Dana Marine.

[smiklos@sunprint]

...the old 22's needed no tabs of any kind, unless its a serious offshore raceboat. the very small number of new boat customers that asked steve about installing tabs, he talked them out of them every time, for a reason. now, this would apply to any & all size & brand "two-cycle" outboard rigged boats back then, including all the single V-8 johnrude installs. installing a new modern day four-cycle...well...who knows. new 22 i/o boats never needed tabs either. can't recall a one, that went out with tabs. again, boats just did not need them. it was rare. the twin 2.4 offshore race 22's...yes...they usually got k-plane tabs. they were about the only ones...

I had a I/O 22 with a Big Block originally with #2 SSM later a bravo and SBC. I put about 800 hours on it (still have that one also) . I used the tabs regularly (kplane 280) as it was run hard in the gulf of Mexico and cg was rather aft. This one will be support boat for the race team. We have Kplanes sitting so I figured I would just build it to the max right out of the box. It will not see calm water very often and will definitionally be run hard. The tabs I saw Steve use were the Wolverine K plane copies.

[Greg G]

How wide is the pad at the transom on your 1985 ?

I always thought they were dead flat but it looks like there might be a few degrees of deadrise in that pad unless the photo is playing a trick.

[smiklos@sunprint]

Reggies always had deadrise except for the original Excaliburs that basiclly laid a plank in the V to make the pad. This is not totally flat has small deadrise very minimal

[smiklos@sunprint]

[FUJIMO]

...yes, steve had a set of old wolverine marine(michigan) tab molds that were just square & went on about a half a dozen boats or so. mostly on a larger hull. the molds sat down at "broward castings" foundry which has been torn down & claimed by broward county & is now lauderdale airport property. they lucked out as the property could not be sold due to contamination & got fair market value despite this. they were simply called up & asked to build a couple more pairs of tabs on rare occassion. they were rough & needed much grinding/trimming, then painted. mercury cylinders, pumps & hoses were used to finish them. "bluewater" indicators from california were used to indicate them. not too many of them were used.

[smiklos@sunprint]

This boat had a bunch of voids where core never bonded to outer layer.

[FUJIMO]

...the 22's pad was/is 12 inches wide. really nice overall bottom design. the original 30's pad was 18 inches wide...

[smiklos@sunprint]

My 30 (originally Gene Whip running Cobra's) had them as did Captain Maintained/Gulfwind and Kihldahl had some on his 26. The plates I am using are baked carbon from Italy pretty trick stuff but flexed on a SVL. They should work well on this and make a nice long boat.