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    95.8 in the Allison. Good enough for me.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt7pvTOqmo4

    Since this thread has turned into a little bit of a "baddest of the bad" thread, here's my nomination - Chip Romer's former 388 Skater. Though I had never been in the boat, my good friend Joe Abellera spent many hours in it (including the LOTO run posted), and can testify that this is a true pleasure boat - open cockpit, full pleasure-interior/seating for six and was used regularly on the weekends without a crew to maintain it. And you can fill it with E85 at many public gas stations! To my knowledge, this is still the world's quickest accelerating, fastest top end (yes, it's gone over 200) PLEASURE boat ever built. The full cockpit raceboats don't really count in my opinion, as they are a completely different class of boat - and several have gone 200+ with all the turbine configurations having been built in the last 5-10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    Chaz = 108.5
    yea Charlie it did feel like it was running .5 mph faster then the gps read. you sure it was not .6 so I can just round it up to 109?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    Dave,

    In that case it takes about 600k to go play at 170-the acceleration as you witnessed is second to none. I think there was a little over 400 gallons of C-14 used that day. He has since added 400 horse a side and re-geared the boat. He is thinking its capable of 225 now. (I WILL NOT BE BACK IN IT WITH HIM ON THE STICKS).

    Joe
    Is Dale a little nutty in that thing? How well does it (his 38/43 DW) compare to the 388's, any opinion on that?

    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    If I ever get my sh-- together and hit a home run in life, I will have one of those 38s.

    Joe
    A 38 DW or just a 38 cat? I've been eyeing up the 388's, but people are still pretty proud of them. I have been tempted to fly down to look at the 38/40 DW that's been listed in so fl for years, but again they are pretty high on the price and I've heard it's getting rough (it's been sitting on their lift for many years with just a cockpit cover on it). I will likely check it out next time I'm in Miami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    Is Dale a little nutty in that thing? How well does it (his 38/43 DW) compare to the 388's, any opinion on that?


    A 38 DW or just a 38 cat? I've been eyeing up the 388's, but people are still pretty proud of them. I have been tempted to fly down to look at the 38/40 DW that's been listed in so fl for years, but again they are pretty high on the price and I've heard it's getting rough (it's been sitting on their lift for many years with just a cockpit cover on it). I will likely check it out next time I'm in Miami.

    I want a 38 DW. I looked at JJs 38 6 months ago and it was still nice. Those are 600SC merc. motors that have been worked on and the gearing is short in the boat but it could be dialed in very easily. Yes Dale is a Wildman and not scared.

    Joe

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    As for the comparison of the 388, there were 3 at the Jax. poker run. Did you see them? enough said. Dales boat is a weapon.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    As for the comparison of the 388, there were 3 at the Jax. poker run. Did you see them? enough said. Dales boat is a weapon.

    Joe
    Serious question Joe (not knocking the DWs), why don't they do anything in offshore racing or at LOTO if they're such a great boat? Saying they do great at Poker Runs doesn't really prove much, as that's just the guy crazy enough to push his 180+ mph boat on public waterways with no safety boats on the water. I know the 32 is NOT a great inboard boat - I've heard how it runs, and it doesn't compare to my 30. And I've never heard or seen where the 38 inboard DW is a great boat either. BTW, is that Dale Crighton's (sp?) 38?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemvegas View Post
    yea Charlie it did feel like it was running .5 mph faster then the gps read. you sure it was not .6 so I can just round it up to 109?
    Isn't round-up for killin weed's ... ?

    Well now that I think about it , boat owners and self proclaimed top end numbers usually seem to use the round-up system ...

    Chaz = Bet I'm the only one who posted a number slower that I've actually been ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayzor View Post
    Serious question Joe (not knocking the DWs), why don't they do anything in offshore racing or at LOTO if they're such a great boat? Saying they do great at Poker Runs doesn't really prove much, as that's just the guy crazy enough to push his 180+ mph boat on public waterways with no safety boats on the water. I know the 32 is NOT a great inboard boat - I've heard how it runs, and it doesn't compare to my 30. And I've never heard or seen where the 38 inboard DW is a great boat either. BTW, is that Dale Crighton's (sp?) 38?
    The 38 got a bad rap when they brought it out to race in the supercat class. The first thing was that the Guy and Ray running the boat had no prior cat experience and were paranoid about blowing it over so they had 200lbs of ballast in the nose that was not needed. 2nd they were chopping the throttle in the turns if you watched them. Out of 6 races they won 3 and rolled the boat in 3 (what do you think would have happened if they kept it upright in all of the races?) Since then, they have had a lot of seat time and have won the great race in Trinidad two years in a row and have won several other offshore events down there. https://youtu.be/chAzGsO_zzk
    Michelle is working on a sponsor deal and if it comes together, he will be running a new 38 in the supercat class. If it wasn't such a logistical nightmare for Guy with his travel, business, and time constraints, he would be running the boat in the states. If Dale gets enthused about his boat again and takes it to the shootout, it will speak for itself for sure. I go the shootout every year and wish it was there.

    As for the 32, it takes way more water then a 30 ever could (ask Billy Mauff and Jay Mueller-they have had both) and it runs north of 140 with 700s and #6 drives. The boat with 525s runs 130 and its balanced very well. You don't want to run up with one in your boat in anything over 2 or 3s trust me. They are a just a bigger boat that puts up the performance numbers of smaller ones. I have a lot of hours in 28s and 32 skaters. We are 5 minutes to the Atlantic ocean and we run the 32 Doug Wright in water that is really tall at times along with opposing current chop- it is a very impressive hull.

    I love Skaters (owned a bunch of them) and Pete has been my hero since I was 9 years old and I used to hang out at his first shop down on the river before the flood. Secondly (you simply can't knock success which is Pete and all of his life accomplishments). I have also become good friends with Doug and now live close to his shop so I spend a lot of time with him, junior and his crew watching their projects develop. John Kosker (Mystic Powerboats) lives within a stones throw of me and his shop is 20 minutes away as well so I spend some time with him get to see his production as well.

    There are a lot of good boats available to all of us-just like cars, motorcycles, planes and women. We all have our favorites and our favorites change over time. My statement was that the Doug Wright 38 is what I will have when and if the time comes.

    Joe

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    o boy what did I start lets not start poking fingers keep in under the collar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby321 View Post
    Great thread but NEED VIDS! Damn at me a kid a 20H on a 8 foot kneel down hydro my older brothers and 35ish MPH? ? At 8 years old? Gave me the "need for speed" that still enjoy today 58 years Later! Another vid..(as "go fast or go home STILL "Rules"!)



    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uBmJ2cuFTcE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

    Dam Robby. That's a section of Savannah River I've run often. Must have been at slack tide cause it gets rough when the tide's running!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUZZIN' DOZEN View Post
    that's haulin azz in a 21 ,what props getting you there

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    Cool

    60-70 plus in 4-7' seas in Euro Scotts 33' Ocean express is my most impressive ride ever. had to stand up, as being seated in the back seats, my "manhood" kept slamming against the seat I couldn't stand it, stood semi crouched and endured the ride. the next morning trying to go down the stairs at the Holiday Inn, it took a couple minutes per stair.
    most overnite successes usually take at least 10 years


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    The 38 got a bad rap when they brought it out to race in the supercat class. The first thing was that the Guy and Ray running the boat had no prior cat experience and were paranoid about blowing it over so they had 200lbs of ballast in the nose that was not needed. 2nd they were chopping the throttle in the turns if you watched them. Out of 6 races they won 3 and rolled the boat in 3 (what do you think would have happened if they kept it upright in all of the races?) Since then, they have had a lot of seat time and have won the great race in Trinidad two years in a row and have won several other offshore events down there. https://youtu.be/chAzGsO_zzk
    Michelle is working on a sponsor deal and if it comes together, he will be running a new 38 in the supercat class. If it wasn't such a logistical nightmare for Guy with his travel, business, and time constraints, he would be running the boat in the states. If Dale gets enthused about his boat again and takes it to the shootout, it will speak for itself for sure. I go the shootout every year and wish it was there.

    As for the 32, it takes way more water then a 30 ever could (ask Billy Mauff and Jay Mueller-they have had both) and it runs north of 140 with 700s and #6 drives. The boat with 525s runs 130 and its balanced very well. You don't want to run up with one in your boat in anything over 2 or 3s trust me. They are a just a bigger boat that puts up the performance numbers of smaller ones. I have a lot of hours in 28s and 32 skaters. We are 5 minutes to the Atlantic ocean and we run the 32 Doug Wright in water that is really tall at times along with opposing current chop- it is a very impressive hull.

    I love Skaters (owned a bunch of them) and Pete has been my hero since I was 9 years old and I used to hang out at his first shop down on the river before the flood. Secondly (you simply can't knock success which is Pete and all of his life accomplishments). I have also become good friends with Doug and now live close to his shop so I spend a lot of time with him, junior and his crew watching their projects develop. John Kosker (Mystic Powerboats) lives within a stones throw of me and his shop is 20 minutes away as well so I spend some time with him get to see his production as well.

    There are a lot of good boats available to all of us-just like cars, motorcycles, planes and women. We all have our favorites and our favorites change over time. My statement was that the Doug Wright 38 is what I will have when and if the time comes.

    Joe
    I thought that was Dale's 38 with the ASD8s. It is a very fast boat, but I think 225 is a bit of a stretch with the 1.35 gears he has in it. Talked to Rik about it today and he said it is a good boat, and if Dale had the time to devote to it, he would probably have it running right there with the best of them. The motors sound like they've been a major factor in the boat not being run much as well. It will be interesting to see how your friend's does in Super Cat if they get the backing to get back racing. There's no doubt that the DW32 has dominated Stock class racing here in the states, but the pleasure ob and inboard versions (both 32 and 38) never seemed to take off for some reason. I've heard the fit/finish and lack of listing in the NADA guide hurt sales in the pleasure arena more than anything else. I know they're great performing boats, but I honestly can't see a DW32 w/ SSMVI that weigh twice as much as my ASD7s really outrunning me in the rough as you say. Having twice the weight hanging off the transom has got to hurt the balance of a boat that is only 16" longer than mine. My engines are pushed quite forward as well, as we're running transmissions (obviously) with 18" driveshafts behind them. My 30 always runs flat and level without a lot of negative trim. Without a doubt though Joe, both the 32 and 38 Doug Wright cats are incredible boats - I honestly think we're somewhat splitting hairs on our discussion of which ones are better (30S vs 32DW inboards and 388S vs 38DW inboards). Some day maybe you'll have a 38DW and I'll have a 388 and we can get together over a few cold ones and discuss it 'till we can't talk any more. I always enjoy your point of view, as I truly respect your background and knowledge in this sport that we're all so passionate about!

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