electric catamaran boat to set world record

[Chaz]

If the "solid state battery" copy and paste was a flop on the last page .. only the village idiot would "go for sloppy seconds" on the "current" page .. (no pun) :D

Some day - one day - in the future ... :rolleyes:

Lets declare war on fossil fuels .. decades before the everyman's golf cart and the infrastructure to support them .. are ready ... super-tards in action .. :cool:

Less than a month fella's .. make a difference ... VOTE !

[Stoker boy]

100% correct. Free enterprise brings the best of everything to surface. Someday we will have 500+ range but until then l am headed to the pump.

Joe

Most likely, but it’s a high probability by that time I will be dead.

[Stoker boy]

Solid State

Solid-state NASA battery beats the Model Y's 4680 pack at energy density by stacking all cells in one case

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</article></aside></aside>NASA's Solid-state Architecture Batteries for Enhanced Rechargeability and Safety (SABERS) project has reached a research milestone, announced the agency. After a few years of experiments and university partnerships, NASA's solid-state battery has hit the whopping 500 Wh/kg energy density, double that of the typical electric car, allowing it to propel electric planes even.
In fact, NASA has been doing the solid-state battery research precisely as part of its Convergent Aeronautics Solutions project for sustainable aviation. In the process, NASA managed to discover a novel packing method for solid-state cells that reduces the battery weight by 30-40% and doubles its energy density compared to the current liquid Li-ion batteries in most electric cars. For comparison, Tesla's 4680 batteries in the Model Y (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-able-to-slash-the-Model-Y-price-significantly-with-4680-battery-pack-cost-savings.647715.0.html) boast sub-300 Wh/kg energy density, while CATL's upcoming M3P phosphate packs for the standard range Model Y (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-Model-Y-first-in-line-for-CATL-s-superior-M3P-phosphate-battery-with-longer-range.638725.0.html) are rated at 160 Wh/kg.
SABERS’s battery eschews individual packaging and stacks all solid-state cells on top of one another within one single case. Not only is this design much lighter and energy-dense than current EV batteries, but it also exhibits the inherent endurance of solid-state packs. NASA's tests of the new solid-state battery found that it can withstand temperatures twice higher than what current Li-ion batteries in electric vehicles are able to endure before bursting into flames.
This makes it suitable for use on planes and the NASA team is testing its solid-state battery for continued performance at even higher pressures and temperatures. Improved battery safety is a very important advantage of the solid-state technology as the recent Hurricane Ian devastation demonstrated. After all, putting out Teslas which caught on fire (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Water-damaged-EV-batteries-turn-Tesla-Model-X-and-other-electric-cars-in-Florida-into-fire-hazards.660368.0.html) during the floods, and whose flaming battery packs couldn't be easily extinguished, turned out to be a major new headache for the disaster recovery crews.

There you go blasting off with NASA Mr. CUDA. Maybe you should hook up the auto manufactures with NASA. Lots of talk, talk, talk.

[Stoker boy]

Yes, without subsidies, tax rebates, and artificial carbon credits to make it barely affordable for upper middle class car buyers.

If the cost becomes prohibitive I guess many people will be riding bicycles and electric scooters.

[Chaz]

It's not for everyone ... ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSm7bjGjEwM

[David - WI]

It's not for everyone ... ;)


Well... if it was an e-bike he would've gotten electrocuted when he pissed himself on tbe way down.

[pcrussell50]

Solid State

Solid-state NASA battery beats the Model Y's 4680 pack at energy density by stacking all cells in one

In the immortal words of a fellow S&F’er… “Yawn”.


Wake me up when this actually happens and I can head to [insert any trustworthy BEV dealer here] and buy one.


Further, on NASA’s own web site they say this:

Not only does this design eliminate 30 to 40 percent of the battery’s weight, it also allows us to double or even triple the energy it can store, far exceeding the capabilities of lithium-ion batteries that are considered to be the state of the art,” Viggiano said.


Besides the semi-literate nonsensical wording, double or triple the energy storage will not be enough to get you from LAX to London or even Honolulu. It will have to be at least 100x not double or triple. That’s how bad this desperate fantasy is. Double or even triple will not even be enough to spend an all day outing on a planing hull boat unless you motor for a few minutes and beach for the day. And you still will probably at or near the max weight for your boat. And for SSB it gets worse…

…read on…

…Back to the science: Solid state electrodes have been around since the 1800’s. (Battery and electric motors are waaay older tech than IC motors, after all). But they were and still are, super-hyper-duper incredibly unbelievably expensive, (too otherworldly to describe, really ), expensive and super fragile. Like house of cards fragile. Though they do address the fire risk of lithium. In 2012 a single 2Ah solid state battery was about $10,000 (not a typo). For reference, that's the equivalent of ONE alkaline AA battery. You would need several thousand of those at $10,000 a pop for a battery car. And they’re so fragile they might not survive the change in grade from the street to your driveway.

Now might be a wee bit early to be holding your breath on this one. Not only that, but SSB hopes for battery cars have been coming up every so often at least since I started looking in 2008. Nothing yet.

===

OT, but pushing back for a flight to LAX as we speak. ;)

-Peter

[John S]

This one is pretty badass!

https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a41524482/scorpion-ev-electric-cobra-tesla-power-conversion-drive-review/

[Brad Zastrow]

Most likely, but it’s a high probability by that time I will be dead.

Lucid Air has a range of 500 miles. Tesla is over 400. This is an entertaining and funny thread. Religion, politics and ignorance are really on display here. This thread is about an EV boat going for a speed record. That is all. No more, no less.

[pcrussell50]

Lucid Air has a range of 500 miles. Tesla is over 400. This is an entertaining and funny thread. Religion, politics and ignorance are really on display here. This thread is about an EV boat going for a speed record. That is all. No more, no less.

The Tesla battery weighs 1200 lbs (about the weight of three aluminum LS v8’s) and holds the equivalent of 2 1/2 gallons of petrol. The only reason it can go 400 miles (in theory) is the that it only takes 15-20kW (20-25 horsepower) at cruising speed, so a 100kWh battery is good for five hours or so . That is as good as lithium transport will ever be. And If you can tolerate a four door sports sedan that weighs as much as a Tahoe, then you are going to be a happy camper. Sounds like you are. Good on you

But you have mentioned “the towing problem”, which is also why there are no planing hull boats with useful range/duration and no commercial airplanes either. You said in a previous post that “technology will solve the problem”. So … what do you see as the problem? What needs to be improved to solve the problem? Truth: I already know where the problem lies, (it’s in my first sentence), but I’m curious what the new-to-BEV evangelists are thinking. I’ve been following this tech for 15 years now, so I’ve lost the “new guy” enthusiasm. Do you think the needed improvements for towing will come from more efficient motors? (Hint: they’re already super efficient), or from more battery capacity?

===


This one is pretty badass!

https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a41524482/scorpion-ev-electric-cobra-tesla-power-conversion-drive-review/

2600 lbs for a car that should weigh no more than 2000 is bit porky for my taste, but hey … I’ve always said that toys like cars and the battery mopeds you see around are a great use for BEV technology. The owner of the “chubby” cobra will be more interested in dragging than road racing, and have at least one if not two petrol vehicles next to it in the garage.


-Peter

[Stoker boy]

Lucid Air has a range of 500 miles. Tesla is over 400. This is an entertaining and funny thread. Religion, politics and ignorance are really on display here. This thread is about an EV boat going for a speed record. That is all. No more, no less.

Brad, When electric cars are equally priced with today’s automobiles and can be recharged as quickly as petroleum automobiles, abundant number of charging stations, overall performance equal two or better than petroleum vehicles. Customers will probably be lined up to purchase electric vehicles.

As far as EV boat records, same thing goes for them, just like cars. Just my humble opinion.

[CUDA]

Don't forget the weight of the transmission, my brother bought a Model S 6 years ago and a few months ago placed a order on the Lucid Air GT version, (before the price increase) he will be lucky to get it by next summer, they are finding out how hard it is to scale up, just like the solid state battery's
three company's HAVE working batteries but It will take two years to see them in cars, they have to design the machines, to make the battery machines, trouble shoot ... very difficult.
In my brothers case he said after selling his S twin motor big battery and the discounts with the Tax credits, he believes It will cost him next to nothing for the new Lucid Air.
My brother does free law work for the Democratic party and Musk has been pissing him off lately ;)

[pcrussell50]

Don't forget the weight of the transmission

Judging by your S&F name I’d guess you are an American muscle car fan. A period correct unsychronized Jerico four speed or a sync’d Super T10, for that car is under 75lbs.


they are finding out how hard it is to scale up, just like the solid state battery's
three company's HAVE working batteries but It will take two years to see them in cars, they have to design the machines, to make the battery machines, trouble shoot ... very difficult.

I’ve been hearing that “two more years” mantra from the SSB crowd since 2010.

Thst said, NIO thinks they will have theirs available for consumer use by “fourth quarter 2022”, which by my estimates is… a lot sooner than two years. You sound pretty confident above… What do you think?

-Peter

[CUDA]

Musk has delayed the Semi and Cybertruck because of the batteries, he needs the solid state to fulfill his promises...

The Semi as is now is only a short haul, city truck, until the next step, like twice todays power, It's service is limited.

But the cool thing about them is low end grunt power, no smoke or noise, prefect city truck.

I was a Cuda fan from very first year, glass fast back, room for the snow ski's;)

I got my older sister to buy a new 1970 purple Duster 340 4 speed:D

I had my own set of keys, she lived at home still, she was a RN working 12 hr. shifts:cheers:

Street racing was common in the 60's and 70's, so was hitch hiking...

[Shaun K]

That was a barracuda :rolleyes:

[Stoker boy]

That was a barracuda :rolleyes:

You are correct Mr. K, if I remember correctly 1970 was the first year for the Cuda. I know a little bit about Cuda’s I owned a 70 and a 72.

[Shaun K]

Barracuda was a small A body until 69, 1970 and forward E body Cuda was a different car

[Stoker boy]

Yes 1970 was a complete redesign from the 1969. I remember they offered some type of Cuda trim package in 1969. If I remember correctly the earlier barracudas were similar to a Plymouth valiant only with a fastback. However my memory is not so good anymore.

[Shaun K]

Technically you could call a 70 Cuda a Barracuda from the Barracuda family, but it was badged "Cuda" with new E-body , when youre talking Glass back that was the Barracuda the end period. I was just picking on Mr Cuda, maybe he meant to name himself Barracuda this whole time ?

[Stoker boy]

I did pick up on the CUDA correction. I’m sure down deep inside Mr. CUDA is a real swell guy.:D

[Shaun K]

I did pick up on the CUDA correction. I’m sure down deep inside Mr. CUDA is a real swell guy.:D

Ill never forget the Cuda because in 9th grade the circle of kids i paled around with, one (anthony) was left a pretty rare (2500 built for trans am racing) 1970 AAR 340 Cuda from his uncle that had passed away. Car was just gorgeous cond, black on black, 6 pack on a 340 ! 4 spd , we used to stand around it in his moms garage at least once a month and drool, We were at least two yrs away from even getting a permit to drive. Car was partially disassembled so he wasn't tempted. Wonder where the car is today

[Stoker boy]

The good ole days. I had a 70 Cuda with a 426 Hemi. I purchased a 72 with a 340 then I purchase a 426 and dropped it in. Then I learned it wasn’t really that simple to just drop it in. My thoughts were to save on the insurance premium.

[pcrussell50]

Musk has delayed the Semi and Cybertruck because of the batteries, he needs the solid state to fulfill his promises...

The Semi as is now is only a short haul, city truck, until the next step, like twice todays power, It's service is limited.

But the cool thing about them is low end grunt power, no smoke or noise, prefect city truck.

Sounds like Musky has been increasing his grip on reality over the past year or so. Refreshing in an era full of hucksters like pretty much anybody who thinks Air Canada bought electric airliners or anyone selling battery powered planing hull boats.

Still not convinced that SSB’s are ready for prime time. The technology has been around since the 1800’s and as of ten years ago, and SSB for a road car would cost $75-80 MILLION dollars just for one car. And they were so fragile that the slightest bump would ruin them. Combine that with the fact that they have been “just two years away” for the last 12 years and well you can color me skeptical. Hope I’m wrong though. You seem to be on the “two years away” bandwagon yourself. There is some word salad played by hucksters where they are calling “cathode gelling in-situ” technology by SSB. It isn’t.

So when you read about SSB, do yourself a favor and make sure you aren’t being played. Today’s desperate BEV evangelism is creating fertile ground for hucksters selling false hope to desperate believers.

===

Torque is always useful but smoke is a ruse as is noise. Modern cars and trucks don’t smoke* unless they are damaged, and today’s drive by noise standards are so strict, companies like BMW are piping fake engine noise into the cabin through the stereo system, (and even lamer, you can’t turn it off unless you hack their network and void your warranty).

*Oh, and smoke is not a greenhouse gas. So whenever you visit a pro-global warming site or view pro global warming media, when you see smoke stacks or when they photoshop fake smoke onto modern car tailpipes, that is a clue that you are being played.

-Peter

[CUDA]

https://www.energy-storage.news/dragonfly-completes-spac-listing-to-commercialise-solid-state-battery/

Here!

[pcrussell50]

https://www.energy-storage.news/dragonfly-completes-spac-listing-to-commercialise-solid-state-battery/

Here!

That’s a tech-free clickbait article that tells us nothing, mate. Lack of relevant tech is signpost of clickbait, even in a supposed financial article.

-Peter

[Stoker boy]

Mr. CUDA, let me know when NASA lands with their space age battery.

[David - WI]

E-bikes sold at Amazon, Walmart recalled due to fire, explosion hazards
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/ebikes-sold-amazon-walmart-recalled-fire-explosion-hazards

[John S]

And it just keeps getting better. Not bad for old, outdated technology.:D

https://electrek.co/2022/10/14/porsche-taycan-owners-range-bumps-through-software-updates/

[pcrussell50]

And it just keeps getting better. Not bad for old, outdated technology.:D

https://electrek.co/2022/10/14/porsche-taycan-owners-range-bumps-through-software-updates/

Not really. As with people who “chip” their ICE cars while making no other mechanical improvements, all Porsche is doing is eating into margins that were already there. Most likely safety (fire) related margins. The only way to make something better without actually making it better is to redistribute what is already there. In fact, if you look at the chart in your own link, the model with the longest range already, gets ZERO range improvement out of this. I know why that is. Do you? I have already given you the hint you need, in case you are struggling for the answer. Otherwise give us shout and I’ll throw you a life preserver.

-Peter

[PanRonnie]

Hydrogen two stroke! :cheers:

[kelvin523]

Mr. CUDA, let me know when NASA lands with their space age battery.
Proofed out about 1969. Really like Voyager 1 and 2, almost 50 years later should be able to power a boat
https://www.hyundaimotorgroup.com/image/upload/asset_library/MDA00000000000011682/b102a1d7929540739e47974e5b94ed9f.jpeg
https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/assets/images/mission/spacecraft/instruments/instrument_RTG.gif

[noli]

.



Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-14/electric-vehicle-charging-stations-become-a-focus-for-shell?leadSource=uverify%20wall)


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[John S]

Waste a problem??? Engineering.... Solution. Glad to see there's some wicked smart MFr's her in America putting in the work :D

https://www.wired.com/story/recycled-battery-materials-can-work-as-well-as-new-ones/

[Chaz]

The problem with fortune telling .. is you never get the full story.

In the future ... is that like just around the bend .. :rolleyes:

Full charge .. an 8 hour coffee break .. Pppfffttttttt, if that wasn't so pathetically true .. my sides would hurt from laughing at the stupidity of the green-tards.

I just heard on the news .. that they're going after .. "soap" next .. :eek:
Stankin- &^%$%&* lib's .... was never truer than what they are provin themselves to be on an ever increasing scale .. :(

Chaz = I like my F-150 truck. Anyone that thinks I should replace it with a $150,000.00 dollar POS electric one .. can shove the new one up their azz.

Battery fetish .. that's it, ain't it. Stick with your **** probes that vibrate and leave the country's system of transportation alone ... :thumbsup:

[Stoker boy]

Proofed out about 1969. Really like Voyager 1 and 2, almost 50 years later should be able to power a boat
https://www.hyundaimotorgroup.com/image/upload/asset_library/MDA00000000000011682/b102a1d7929540739e47974e5b94ed9f.jpeg
https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/assets/images/mission/spacecraft/instruments/instrument_RTG.gif

I wonder how many cells are needed for an automobile and what is the cost?

[pcrussell50]

I wonder how many cells are needed for an automobile and what is the cost?

Early in the EV movement, before politics turned against petrol, Honda did a lot of research into FCV cars. But being a fuel cell it used petro fuel to generate electricity. So no matter how good fuel cells are or are not, they have an uphill political climb added to the technical challenges.

-Peter

[BarryStrawn]

I don't recall there being any workable fuel cells running on petrol and air. Lots of effort but no success. Honda fuel cells run on hydrogen and air.

The NASA type shown would be fine other than needing a supply of cryogenic oxygen and hydrogen. A mishap with those would make the lithium battery fires seem trivial.

[pcrussell50]

I don't recall there being any workable fuel cells running on petrol and air. Lots of effort but no success. Honda fuel cells run on hydrogen and air.

Fair point. But where does scalable hydrogen come from? Electrolysis is not scalable without pre-Carter-era nuke. That leaves petro as the only scalable source of H2.

-Peter

[BarryStrawn]

No need to be pedantic. I think everyone know the least expensive source of H2 is derived from petroleum. And even that isn't cheap.

[Stoker boy]

What’s the solution?

[BarryStrawn]

[QUOTE=Stoker boy;3364577]What’s the solution?[/QUOTE

A liquid internal combustion fuel you can carry in a bucket. So gasoline or kerosene. If renewable is required, then straight ethanol. Will be interesting to see what Formula1 / FIA come up with for 2026 "sustainable" fuel.

[David - WI]

2020...

As a second-generation biofuel variety, meaning it is exclusively refined using bio-waste, not intended for human or animal consumption, the first barrels are now with F1’s Power Unit manufacturers for testing and validation.

https://www.fia.com/news/fia-introduces-sustainable-fuel-formula-1-and-commits-becoming-carbon-neutral-2021-and-net-zero

[BarryStrawn]

2020...


https://www.fia.com/news/fia-introduces-sustainable-fuel-formula-1-and-commits-becoming-carbon-neutral-2021-and-net-zero

Short version of that is ethanol for the present and they want greener ways to produce it. Longer term question is will they find anything better. Can someone create a synthetic gasoline where the production method is carbon neutral? But if nothing new is discovered, they can certainly race on E100.

[Stoker boy]

I watched a documentary about 10 years ago, they were utilizing a specialized paint on an automobile to actually create energy like a solar panel. I remember they said they could produce a very small amount of energy at night due to the difference in the paint temperature and ambient temperature.

I’ve read where they discovered the nighttime charging in 2020 but I watched a documentary 10 years ago so I don’t know.

I think utilizing magnetic fields is a better source of propulsion. But I’m just a crusty old man with not much time left.

[David - WI]

Short version of that is ethanol for the present and they want greener ways to produce it. Longer term question is will they find anything better. Can someone create a synthetic gasoline where the production method is carbon neutral? But if nothing new is discovered, they can certainly race on E100.

Such a joke anyway... they burn a lot more fuel traveling from race-to-race than they do racing. Carbon... :rolleyes:

[Shaun K]

2020...


https://www.fia.com/news/fia-introduces-sustainable-fuel-formula-1-and-commits-becoming-carbon-neutral-2021-and-net-zero


take their mask off and it's just the UN again. yawn

https://www.fiafoundation.org/

[kelvin523]

What’s the solution?
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I prefer hybrid; and there's always space available for me to park.

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[John S]

Short version of that is ethanol for the present and they want greener ways to produce it. Longer term question is will they find anything better. Can someone create a synthetic gasoline where the production method is carbon neutral? But if nothing new is discovered, they can certainly race on E100.

Whatever fuel they're using, get my man on the starting grid. :D One of my favorite driver's of any sport. And still going strong.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/motor/formula1/2022/10/15/mario-andretti-drives-mclaren-formula-1-car/10512288002/

[Chaz]

What’s the solution?

Like everyone else here .. I'm not an expert in the field of energy production, but if history teaches us anything .. I'd have to say, offshore drilling and onshore fracking.
Left in the hand of the experts .. for a while we were America the Great. Now we seem to lead by the Easter Bunny .. :(

[CUDA]

What Is Holding Back U.S. Oil Production?

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Since then, demand has recovered to pre-pandemic levels. Oil production, however, has only partially recovered. The most recent data available from the Energy Information Administration (EIA) shows current U.S. oil production at ~11.6 million BPD — still 1.4 million BPD short of pre-pandemic production. This shortfall is a major factor that led to the run-up of oil and gasoline prices over the past year.

When the pandemic crushed oil demand in 2020, some oil companies went out of business. Some small stripper wells — which accounts for a respectable amount of U.S. oil production — were permanently capped given the bleak outlook. Some workers left the oil industry.




Now, with oil prices over $100/bbl, many are questioning why production hasn’t bounced all the way back. The Biden Administration has pointed fingers at the oil industry, stating they have stockpiled 9,000 permits they aren’t using. The oil industry says that the problem — in part — is hostile policies of the Biden Administration.

Setting politics aside, here is what we know. The part about the oil industry stockpiling permits — mostly ahead of President Biden taken office — is true. I have reported (https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2021/01/29/how-president-bidens-executive-orders-impact-the-oil-industry/) on this before. However, that doesn’t mean they are sitting on them.
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Obtaining a permit is just one step in the chain that ultimately results in oil production. There are many other links in that chain, some of which are still problematic today. Further, they can’t just sit on the permits. There is generally a “use it or lose it” provision that requires them to give up a permit if they don’t develop the lease over a specified period.

Thus, we have oil production that can’t bounce back quickly because some has been shut in, and new production that can’t proceed as quickly due to manpower and material shortages (e.g., fracking sand). It’s not simply that oil companies are sitting on permits. They are working through them. The number of rigs drilling for oil and gas has risen by 60% over the past year. 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</cnx></cnx></cnx>But why did they stockpile so many permits? Stacey Morris, who is Director of Research for midstream index and data provider Alerian (https://www.alerian.com/) elaborated on these issues when I reached out to her for comment:
“The President mentioned thousands of permits on federal lands. The permit number is inflated from stockpiling. Companies stockpiled permits on federal lands leading up to the President’s inauguration, because several Democratic candidates, including the president, supported banning new drilling permits on federal lands. Permits do not equate to production. There are a number of steps between securing a permit and actually bringing a well to production, and issues like labor constraints and fracking sand shortages are added obstacles.”
That leads me to another issue with the oil companies themselves, where Ms. Morris added:
“Investors have demanded that producers maintain capital discipline and grow volumes modestly. Returns have taken priority over growth. Up until recently, a producer planning to significantly grow production volumes would likely have been punished by investors. However, that sentiment may be changing with oil prices where they are and the potential need to replace Russian barrels on the global market.
The geopolitical situation and oil price level may give US producers a license to grow volumes more meaningfully. It takes time for producers to respond to prices, though, and the price signal was not strong enough for E&Ps to potentially veer from their plans for moderate growth until recently. Private producers have been able to ramp upstream activity more meaningfully given that they do not have to answer to a public investor base.”
Oil companies regularly lose money. In four of the past ten years, the oil industry lost money. Big oil lost $76 billion just two years ago. Therefore, they are proceeding with caution. They are maintaining more capital discipline. They aren’t rushing to do projects with the assumption that oil prices will remain above $100/bbl. They are doing projects with the assumption that in a year or more when the projects might pay off, oil prices will have retreated to well below $100/bbl.
On this issue, the Biden Administration is correct. The oil industry is going slow. But this belies a misunderstanding of how long it takes to execute a project. Oil companies don’t have crystal balls. They have to make decisions now based on where they think prices are headed. Because of multiple collapses in oil prices over the past decade, they are proceeding with more caution and capital discipline.
These are issues in which there seems to be a great deal of misunderstanding — which leads to finger-pointing — between the Biden Administration and the oil industry. Given the circumstances, as I wrote previously (https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/03/07/the-biden-administration-should-immediately-convene-a-summit-with-us-oil-producers/) I believe the Biden Administration should convene a summit with the heads of the major oil companies. There should be frank dialogue, and the outcome should be clearly communicated to the world.

[Stoker boy]

Very informative Mr. CUDA, of course oil companies regularly lose money. Lol!!!!

[Chaz]

Only an idiot would ask this question .... >

What Is Holding Back U.S. Oil Production?

Here is the answer .. your fellow village idiot is responsible.

It's a short video, but still you will more than likely need to watch it a few times to grasp ... half of it .. :p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm9lQfEN048

[Stoker boy]

I smell money laundering.

[Chaz]

I smell money laundering.

Afghanistan withdrawal (arming the Taliban) Southern border, Fentanyl, inflation, promoting racism, fuel prices, golf carts, education of our youth, mob media that produces village idiots, supply shortages, war on law and order, bribery, kick backs, stealing of the last election, Jan. 6 circus, all designed to bring America down .. !

[Stoker boy]

Afghanistan withdrawal (arming the Taliban) Southern border, Fentanyl, inflation, promoting racism, fuel prices, golf carts, education of our youth, mob media that produces village idiots, supply shortages, war on law and order, bribery, kick backs, stealing of the last election, Jan. 6 circus, all designed to bring America down .. !

Just to name a few!

[Chaz]

I didn't want to post the entire list of failures. My blood pressure spikes ;) with each and every new blunder ... :o

[John S]

https://insideevs.com/news/616850/canoo-receives-biggest-order-to-date-from-kingbee-9300-evs/amp/

My company has been looking into these for our service techs. They're pretty modular/ and retro cool. Look good with my paddle board on it next to the pipe rack.:D

[wettek]

GE has just announced that they are laying off 20% of their workforce in the wind energy department as it is becoming too expensive to build wind turbines due to the cost of raw materials. Vestas and Siemens, two of the largest wind turbine manufacturers also reported losses for the first time. Wind and solar is beginning to be acknowledged as not cost competitive, which is really going to hurt the renewable energy fans.

[David - WI]

They know about the problem but refuse to fix it.

Biden admin keeps delaying oil and gas permitting due to math error

Biden admin math error is having a 'real impact' on offshore oil production, industry group tells FOX Business

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-keeps-delaying-oil-gas-permitting-math-error

[Shaun K]

They know about the problem but refuse to fix it.

The problem is right here. This climate puppet w dementia running the country into the shtter


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llwEUH4Lnb4

[David - WI]

https://youtu.be/4MyLwAokINc


https://youtu.be/3Nj04VkxbRw

You don't have to like the guy, to admit that America was a better place while he was president than it was before or is after. You can bs all you want but you can't dispute the facts.

[PanRonnie]

I would argue there is a global pandemic of idiots at the top
Europe in particular
Now trump warned we need to do more on defense spending and be less dependant on Russia for energy!
Look how that turned out?
Lets hope that it does not matter who is president, more important are the people around them preparing policy

[Shaun K]

U.S. inflation rate for 2019 was 1.81%
2022 – 8.3%
================
Dozen Eggs 2019 $1.40
2022 3.116
=================
Gas per gal 2019 - $2.12
2022 national average prices are: Regular unleaded: $5.009. Mid-grade: $5.397. Premium: $5.694
===================
30 yr fixed mortgage rate 2019 - 3.94%
2022 – 6.98% (2022 isn't over yet, two more fed meetings lol)
=====================
Per The Major Chiefs Association for 2022, compared to 2019 midyear figures, cities experienced a 50% increase in homicides and a roughly 36% increase in aggravated assaults.

[David - WI]

Well, the "old guard" republicans wasted the first two years of Mr. Trumps term when they had control of congress, screaming about Russian collusion. The people at the DOJ, FBI, CIA, and Homeland Security who should have been doing the heavy lifting during the last two years were conspiring against our nation to prevent a second term at all costs. Pretty sad but also amazing that Mr. Trump accomplished what he did.

[Stoker boy]

https://youtu.be/4MyLwAokINc


https://youtu.be/3Nj04VkxbRw




https://youtu.be/NsQ2hX_noNw

Great post Mr. CUDA, you are truly on top of things. I hope you had a wonderful week end.

[Stoker boy]

U.S. inflation rate for 2019 was 1.81%
2022 – 8.3%
================
Dozen Eggs 2019 $1.40
2022 3.116
=================
Gas per gal 2019 - $2.12
2022 national average prices are: Regular unleaded: $5.009. Mid-grade: $5.397. Premium: $5.694
===================
30 yr fixed mortgage rate 2019 - 3.94%
2022 – 6.98% (2022 isn't over yet, two more fed meetings lol)
=====================
Per The Major Chiefs Association for 2022, compared to 2019 midyear figures, cities experienced a 50% increase in homicides and a roughly 36% increase in aggravated assaults.


Those are great numbers that means someone is making money. I wonder who?

[powerabout]

.



Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-14/electric-vehicle-charging-stations-become-a-focus-for-shell?leadSource=uverify%20wall)


511070





511071
Cars made life convenient but no longer, to use one you have to re schedule your day...will it catch on?

[CRH1]

And there-in lies a big part of the problem. THEY DON'T KNOW THE FACTS.

Not sure if they are too stupid to actually know the difference, or are willing to ride their warped EGO all the way into the ground.

This guy would be way to conservative for todays tard party. If government is to spend money .. it is to help stimulate business in the private sector ... Hummff , I don't think he would have choked the life blood of our economy .. and thought windmills and battery's from a communist country would be the direction to go ... :nonod:

Today they say :
Ask not what you can do for your country .. but help us run this place into a third world **** hole ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4S5nM8BjwM

The hardest thing to do is look at the guy in the mirror and admit I was wrong. Today's modern day libs would have the whole thing burn to the ground before looking in the mirror, way to much time and money invested in destroying the bad orange man.

[CUDA]

https://www.rt.com/business/562430-germany-gdp-plunge-recession/

No man is a Island

Germany’s GDP forecast to plunge

Europe’s largest economy is expected to shrink next year

>https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2022.09/xxs/6319ee6e203027707340ffe0.jpg
Victory column, one of Berlin's premiere landmarks, on the first day a new law banning the illumination of landmarks to save energy has gone into effect nationwide, Berlin, Germany, September 1, 2022. © Getty Images / Carsten Koall


The German economy is headed for a sharp decline next year, researchers from the Kiel Institute for the World Economy warned (https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/kiel-institute-economic-outlook/2022/german-economy-autumn-2022-consumption-driven-recession-17606/) on Thursday.
“The German economy is in a downward spiral. The recent price jumps for electricity and gas will reduce the purchasing power of private households and lead to a decline in private consumer spending. In addition, the slowing world economy will dampen not only exports but also investment activity. As a result, the German economy will slide into recession once again, at a time when it was just recovering from the pandemic-related crisis,” a press release stated.
Analysts explained that while in their summer forecast they assumed that “recovery would prevail despite the burdens” and predicted a strong rise in GDP, lingering concerns regarding the energy sphere forced them to lower their expectations significantly.
“Now we expect GDP to increase by only 1.4% in the current year. In 2023, it is expected to decline by 0.7%,” they wrote, while previously the institute predicted a 3.3% growth for the country’s economy next year.
Researchers also expect inflation to rise to 8% this year and 8.7% in 2023.
READ MORE: German gas giant pleads for state funding amid energy crisis (https://www.rt.com/news/562399-germany-gas-giant-state-funding/)
Germany’s spending on energy imports is expected to rise by €123 billion this year and another €136 billion next year. As a result, the country’s industrial output is likely to drop. Private households' purchasing power is also forecast to fall by 4.1%, the steepest drop recorded since Germany’s reunification in 1990.
For more stories on economy & finance visit RT's business section (https://www.rt.com/business/)

[Shaun K]

https://www.rt.com/business/562430-germany-gdp-plunge-recession/

No man is a Island


A lot of people say you're a good guy but your understanding of what's actually happening with in Nato countries under this liberal world order is just embarrassing. But hey, you voted for this. Unwittingly


"You will own nothing and be happy" -Klaus Schwab



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOUEBgUTMEs

[Stoker boy]

https://www.rt.com/business/562430-germany-gdp-plunge-recession/

No man is a Island

Germany’s GDP forecast to plunge

Europe’s largest economy is expected to shrink next year

>https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2022.09/xxs/6319ee6e203027707340ffe0.jpg
Victory column, one of Berlin's premiere landmarks, on the first day a new law banning the illumination of landmarks to save energy has gone into effect nationwide, Berlin, Germany, September 1, 2022. © Getty Images / Carsten Koall


The German economy is headed for a sharp decline next year, researchers from the Kiel Institute for the World Economy warned (https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/kiel-institute-economic-outlook/2022/german-economy-autumn-2022-consumption-driven-recession-17606/) on Thursday.
“The German economy is in a downward spiral. The recent price jumps for electricity and gas will reduce the purchasing power of private households and lead to a decline in private consumer spending. In addition, the slowing world economy will dampen not only exports but also investment activity. As a result, the German economy will slide into recession once again, at a time when it was just recovering from the pandemic-related crisis,” a press release stated.
Analysts explained that while in their summer forecast they assumed that “recovery would prevail despite the burdens” and predicted a strong rise in GDP, lingering concerns regarding the energy sphere forced them to lower their expectations significantly.
“Now we expect GDP to increase by only 1.4% in the current year. In 2023, it is expected to decline by 0.7%,” they wrote, while previously the institute predicted a 3.3% growth for the country’s economy next year.
Researchers also expect inflation to rise to 8% this year and 8.7% in 2023.
READ MORE: German gas giant pleads for state funding amid energy crisis (https://www.rt.com/news/562399-germany-gas-giant-state-funding/)
Germany’s spending on energy imports is expected to rise by €123 billion this year and another €136 billion next year. As a result, the country’s industrial output is likely to drop. Private households' purchasing power is also forecast to fall by 4.1%, the steepest drop recorded since Germany’s reunification in 1990.
For more stories on economy & finance visit RT's business section (https://www.rt.com/business/)




What a fantastic copy paste Mr. CUDA you are truly a scholar.
I hope you’re having a wonderful week.

[powerabout]

if only Germany listened to Trump

[David - WI]

Bidenomics is bankrupting our allies and enriching our enemies.

[Shaun K]

if only Germany listened to Trump

It should be obvious that Germanys leaders and our current leaders want to decimate their own populations. It's not like they made a mistake. You have to burn it all down before you can build back better

[PanRonnie]

if only Germany listened to Trump

At the moment there is a traffic jam of LNG ships for europe ! Go mr putin but it also important being less dependant of people turning the tap on and off in the arab gulf. I see more and more news items about retrofitting industry engines with hydrogen injection systems from ships to mining equipmant so this decade might be a bit harsh but we are getting there

[powerabout]

At the moment there is a traffic jam of LNG ships for europe ! Go mr putin but it also important being less dependant of people turning the tap on and off in the arab gulf. I see more and more news items about retrofitting industry engines with hydrogen injection systems from ships to mining equipmant so this decade might be a bit harsh but we are getting there
What energy source did you make the hydrogen with?

[PanRonnie]

That is probably going to be nuclear supplemented by wind
Instead of big nuclear plants more Small Modular Reactors spread out over the energy grid prefferebly next to existenting powerplants so the grid infra structuur is already there
And lets hope they crack nuclear fusion this decade

[noli]

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[CUDA]

https://www.inverse.com/innovation/nuclear-fusion-instabilities



NUCLEAR FUSION REACTORS could eventually harness the power of the sun to generate massive amounts of clean energy (https://www.inverse.com/science/electric-vehicles-biden-2030-plan-massive-flaw). But for now, they’re prone to instabilities that can wreak havoc on the futuristic machines.[/COLOR]
Now, in a new study (https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.129.165001) published in the journal Physical Review Letters, scientists have found a possible way to avoid these destructive instabilities — purposefully cooking up a bunch of smaller ones.





HERE’S THE BACKGROUND — Nuclear fusion (https://www.inverse.com/innovation/tokamak-energy-threshold), the same reaction that occurs in the heart of stars, combines atomic nuclei to form heavier nuclei. Any mass that doesn’t make it into new atoms is converted to energy, releasing an extraordinary amount of light and heat.[/COLOR]
Scientists have long sought to produce nuclear fusion in reactors on Earth because it generates far more energy than burning fossil fuels (https://www.inverse.com/science/climate-crisis-fossil-fuel-catastrophe) does. For example, a pineapple-size amount of hydrogen atoms offers as much energy as 10,000 tons of coal.
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Most experimental fusion reactors employ a donut-shaped Russian design called a tokamak. These designs use powerful magnetic fields to confine a cloud of plasma, or ionized gas, at extremely high temperatures — high enough for atoms to merge together.
But all magnetically confined plasmas naturally develop instabilities, or areas where small disturbances in the plasmas quickly grow.





Instabilities that originate at the edge of the ring of plasma in a tokamak called "edge-localized modes" (ELMs) are somewhat like solar flares (https://www.inverse.com/article/36293-nasa-captures-wild-images-of-solar-flares-on-the-sun) on the surface of the sun. Each can expel up to 20 percent of the energy stored in the reactor (https://twitter.com/gmeni/status/1579970550994468865), potentially inflicting catastrophic damage to a tokamak's walls.
Previous research suggested a potential fix: slightly contorting the plasma ring with magnets so that it forms a shape that looks a bit like a rounded triangle.
This step can expand the donut’s more stable interior and render the overall plasma more stable, says Georg Harrer (https://www.iap.tuwien.ac.at/www/atomic/group/harrer/index), a lead study author and plasma physicist at the Vienna University of Technology in Austria.
Past studies have also found that fueling the ring with gas offers a density and pressure boost at the very edge of the plasma. This triggers many tiny ELMS instead of major, damaging ones.
But scientists thought such a scenario was only possible in relatively small tokamaks, and not in the large ones currently under development to research fusion power.
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WHAT’S NEW — This new work upends that theory. Through a series of experiments and simulations, the researchers suggest that creating small instabilities may prevent bigger ones in fusion reactors.<iframe frameborder="0" src="https://d6199bd0fdbca166f7a4cdcae4edfae9.safeframe.googlesyndication.com/safeframe/1-0-38/html/container.html" id="google_ads_iframe_/49944529/inverse/posts_2" title="3rd party ad content" name="" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" width="300" height="250" data-is-safeframe="true" sandbox="allow-forms allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation" role="region" aria-label="Advertisement" tabindex="0" data-google-container-id="4" data-load-complete="true" style="font-family: Favorit; color: rgb(31, 31, 31); text-align: center; box-sizing: inherit; border-width: 0px; border-style: initial; vertical-align: bottom;"></iframe>


While researchers have previously manipulated small instabilities in the lab, they weren’t previously considered a tool for fusion reactors, says Saskia Mordijck (https://physics.aps.org/articles/v15/154), a plasma physicist at the College of William & Mary who wasn’t involved in the new research.
But the recent study does consider that possibility.
You can compare a tokamak to a pot with boiling water and a tight lid on top, Harrer says. Just as a pot’s lid rattles with building pressure, large ELMs bang on the tokamak as pressure grows.
But scientists can offer a pressure release, just as you can tilt a pot’s lid to let out steam: If the tokamak is subjected to many small bursts of pressure, it could experience less damage.
This strategy generates several thousand small instabilities per second. It’s still unclear whether these small bursts help protect the tokamak, but "we have good reason to think that they are way less harmful," Harrer says.
Such outbursts disseminate heat over a much larger area and over a longer period of time, which hopefully spares the tokamak interior from significant melting. What’s more, this approach shouldn’t significantly alter a fusion reactor’s (https://www.inverse.com/article/9135-why-the-max-planck-institute-wanted-to-cook-up-plasma-in-its-fusion-reactor) efficiency, he adds.
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WHY IT MATTERS — This technique could be applied in reactors like the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER (https://www.livescience.com/61132-first-fusion-plant-plasma-core-half-completed.html)) project, which aims to create the world's first nuclear fusion plant.
ITER is currently under construction in southern France. When it’s up and running, it could produce 10 times the energy that scientists put into it.
WHAT’S NEXT — Future research will test this strategy on the world’s largest operating tokamak, the Joint European Torus (JET (https://www.livescience.com/jet-fusion-experiment-smashes-energy-record)) in England, according to Harrer. JET is currently running experiments that could help pave the way for the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor.
"It is a challenge to predict how a fusion reactor will behave at this point," Mordijck says. "The region the authors are studying is notoriously a challenge for multiple reasons, and this is the region that will be the most altered in a fusion reactor."
All in all, this new work "is but a small puzzle piece in a very complex problem," Harrer cautions. "As of now, people should not expect to get their electricity (https://www.inverse.com/innovation/living-solar-energy) from a fusion reactor before the 2050s."

[PanRonnie]

You bet on red! I on black:thumbsup:

[CUDA]

The other article said 20 or more years, so small reactors is now...

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/15/bill-gates-nuclear-company-terrapower-raises-750-million.html


<header class="ArticleHeader-articleHeader" id="main-article-header" style="box-sizing: border-box; position: relative; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px;">CLIMATE (https://www.cnbc.com/climate/)Bill Gates’ company TerraPower raises $750 million for nuclear energy and medicine innovation


TerraPower, the nuclear innovation company founded by Bill Gates, announced a $750 million funding raise co-led by Gates and SK, a large South Korean conglomerate that is one of South Korea’s largest energy providers.</header>

The money will go toward the development of nuclear energy innovations and nuclear medicine.






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Bill Gates, co-founder of Microsoft and Chair of the Gates Foundation, walks to a morning session during the Allen & Company Sun Valley Conference on July 08, 2022 in Sun Valley, Idaho.
Kevin Dietsch | Getty Images



Bill Gates’ nuclear innovation company, TerraPower (https://www.terrapower.com/), announced Monday it has secured at least $750 million in new funding.
The funding was co-led by Gates and SK. Gates is the founder and chairman of TerraPower (https://www.terrapower.com/people/bill-gates/). SK, one of South Korea’s largest energy providers, invested $250 million.


The money will be used to develop nuclear energy technology and innovations in nuclear medicine, according to a statement from TerraPower (https://www.terrapower.com/fundraise/).
“Whether it’s addressing climate change with carbon-free advanced nuclear energy, or fighting cancer with nuclear isotopes, our team is deploying technology solutions and investors across the world are taking note,” Chris Levesque, the CEO of TerraPower, said in a statement.
Nuclear energy has been undergoing a renaissance because the energy created by nuclear reactors doesn’t release the greenhouse gasses that cause climate change. There is, however, long-lasting nuclear waste that has to be stored carefully.

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An artist rendition of the Natrium nuclear power plant.
Photo courtesy TerraPower



What TerraPower’s working on

TerraPower is working with GE Hitachi Nuclear Energy (https://nuclear.gepower.com/), a division of General Electric, to commercialize the Natrium system. It includes a smaller reactor than the conventional ones used in the United States and a molten salt energy storage system that allows the microreactor to boost its energy output (https://www.terrapower.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/TP_2022_Natrium_Technology.pdf) for short periods of time as needed.
TerraPower is currently working to demonstrate its Natrium reactor technology (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/17/bill-gates-terrapower-builds-its-first-nuclear-reactor-in-a-coal-town.html) at a soon-to-be-retired coal plant in Wyoming. The project is a collaboration with the federal government (https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/us-department-energy-announces-160-million-first-awards-under-advanced-reactor) as part of the U.S. Department of Energy’s Advanced Reactor Demonstration Program (https://www.energy.gov/ne/nuclear-reactor-technologies/advanced-reactor-demonstration-program) (ARDP).


TerraPower also wants to commercialize a kind of molten salt reactor technology that could be used to provide carbon-free energy to heavy industrial operations, like water treatment plants, chemical processors and heavy industrial users. And the company is building the Traveling Wave Reactor, (https://www.terrapower.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/TP-2022-TWR-Technology.pdf) which it says will use mined uranium 30 times more efficiently and greatly reduces nuclear waste.
The firm also hopes to help treat cancer with its TerraPower Isotopes program.
Small amounts of slightly radioactive material (https://www.terrapower.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/2022-TPI-Isotopes.pdf) can be used to help treat certain cancers. One such radioactive material, Actinium-225 (https://www.terrapower.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/TP-2022-Medical-Isotopes.pdf), can be used to help treat prostate cancer, lymphoma, melanoma and other cancers. TerraPower is working to innovate in the process to extract Thorium-229, which is needed to create Actinium-225, from sources of Uranium-233 that are being managed by the Department of Energy.
There is not enough Actinium-225 right now (https://www.terrapower.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/2022-TPI-Isotopes.pdf) to meet demand, so TerraPower says it will use its “unique access” to Actinium-225 to bring the isotope to the pharmaceutical community.

[John S]

This kind of stuff is so interesting to me. Would love to be involved in the R&D phases of this. Hopefully by the time I'm ready to do a conversion project, this will be in the market.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Solid-state-battery-by-Mercedes-partner-ProLogium-first-to-hit-100-silicon-anode-for-up-to-620-mile-range.663233.0.html

[PanRonnie]

Green hydrogen refueling stations in operation, blue in development

[Chaz]

They was some fellers a while back that needed some gas for they aero-planes. They put that hydrogen stuff ta good use. Yup, they was able ta turn black rocks into gasoline.
I rekkon they didn't think they needed to do that no more since they could buy cheap gas an vodka from a neighbor to the east, so they sold they'ere tools to some other fellers to the far east. Them other fellers from the far east, use them black rocks to make gas and electric-isity.
Them same fellers make big propellors for out in the fields, sun boards and poison batterys .. no-no-no, they don't use them things, they ain't stupid, nope they sell that junk to other less intelligent folks that aint smart enough ta use the oil right under they'ere own feet .. :rolleyes:

https://www.neuman-esser.de/en/compressors/applications/petro-chemical-life-science/hydrogenation-of-coal/

[XstreamVking]

Hydrogen is the real green alternative. It’s only the most abundant material on earth....And no pollution at all compared to batteries. And most importantly we don’t need China to produce it.

[CUDA]

https://youtu.be/kvldC99-2oQ

https://electrek.co/2022/10/26/candela-c-8-t-top-electric-boat/

[David - WI]

Man, that Candela would really be a nice boat with a gasoline engine... 80% more efficient would mean awesome mileage and low emissions. You could go twice as far, twice as fast... for half the money! :cheers:

[wettek]

Hydrogen is the real green alternative. It’s only the most abundant material on earth....And no pollution at all compared to batteries. And most importantly we don’t need China to produce it.

Just produces ****loads of pollution to make it, due to the energy required (which has to be produced somehow), unless it's green hydrogen, which is not commercially viable (yet) for mass production. At the moment, the majority of hydrogen is reformed from fossil fuel bases, so if you want to get rid of fossil fuels, you are kinda stuck, unless you produce it by electrolysis, which uses lots of electricity.

[David - WI]

Yes, it's not really a "fuel"... it's more like a battery to store energy from other less portable sources... like a nuke.

[kelvin523]

"The energy in oil initially comes from the Sun, and is energy from sunlight that is trapped in chemical form by dead plankton."

[CUDA]

Yeah 252 to 66 million years ago;)

[engineermike]

"The energy in oil initially comes from the Sun, and is energy from sunlight that is trapped in chemical form by dead plankton."

Technically gasoline is biofuel…

[CUDA]

Technically gasoline is biofuel…


Yeah so is coal just add 100 million years of development

Have you ever considered a political career?

[XstreamVking]

With the rate of power consumption going up like a rocket we will have to use ANY means available to us. Only difference will be is how destructive it is to the planet to obtain and use. Hydrogen is the best alternative for much of our needs as far as I can see.

[dagodiver]

and todays project includes installing 4 of these.
480vdc 445amp.
I just finished a 2 Meg setup. Fun.!
Dago.

[PanRonnie]

Halfway there!

[David - WI]

Here's the thing about Joe Biben's price hike...

The U.S. holds more oil reserves than anyone else in the world, including Saudi Arabia, Russia, and Venezuela.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/US-Has-Worlds-Largest-Oil-Reserves.html

The little stickers on the gas pumps that say, "I did this!" are true!

[PanRonnie]

lets not forget the more friendly country,s altough greta is not going to be happy ;)

[PanRonnie]

https://youtu.be/VnSOtVO6GcM
:thumbsup:

[XstreamVking]

That is impressive as heck and provides a very green solution to ice pollution and batteries shortcomings. And it has an LS!

[David - WI]

If carbon was actually a pollutant rather than a vital nnutrient, some of these "green" ideas might make sense...but it isn't and they don't!

"New passenger vehicles are 98-99% cleaner for most tailpipe pollutants compared to the 1960s. Fuels are much cleaner—lead has been eliminated, and sulfur levels are more than 90% lower than they were prior to regulation."

[pcrussell50]

Increasing CO2: while whatever warming has occurred has been too little to tell if it was CO2 or natural, FOR SURE there has been significant greening. According to radical right wing blog, NASA: Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth)
It's greening by a lot, too. The Sahara is losing desert like mad.


===

In other news, according to the other radical right wing blog, NPR:
Fires from exploding e-bike batteries multiply in NYC — sometimes fatally (https://www.npr.org/2022/10/30/1130239008/fires-from-exploding-e-bike-batteries-multiply-in-nyc-sometimes-fatally)


Fire in New York high rise caused by E-bike. 43 injured.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7zNtozubmI

FDNY says 175 Li-Ion fires this year so far.

Anyone who thinks that insurance companies are not going to catch up to this, is smoking something I'm not allowed to smoke, even if it's legal.

-Peter

[David - WI]

Switzerland could ban electric vehicle use during energy crisis: report
Swiss officials brace for energy crisis this winter, while planning for ways to prevent blackouts

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/switzerland-could-ban-electric-vehicle-use-during-energy-crisis-reports

[Chaz]

With kids like rollin coal ... err .. Whistlin ... I'm at peace known that the world will be left to genu-wine gear heads .. when I'm gone .. :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8LoA4bEe8k

If any of you think the left **** ********* ********* **** will bring us to the apoplectic state in your life time .. Then I would recommend pickin this place up, all the solar and battery's a ****** ******* **** could ever want ... ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__kvM5tvlw0

[Chaz]

Remember my northern friends ...

https://www.yellowbullet.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.yellowbullet.com/attachments/1671934351686-png.435871/

I hope none of you have to go, over the hill and thru the woods to grandmothers house today in your &%# @## ev. If you do, don't turn the heater on .. :rolleyes:

https://www.yellowbullet.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.yellowbullet.com/attachments/volt_range_cold_weather_fleetcarma1-png.435869/

[PanRonnie]

Don't you have raindeer in the US as a backup plan!? :p513751

[Instigator]

Chaz, there is a guy on OSO talking about building an elec powered boat for a shot at big #s.

A VERY smart dude that I will not doubt.

He says he’s actually surprised no one’s done it yet.

He thinks:

25’ w/elec power should run 155+.

Ill kept you posted as he posts more.

[Instigator]

Ps, just saw Ford raised the price on their elec f-150 for the 3rd time since it’s release.
Its now + $15k since it’s release.

Was at my bank the other day and parked my internal combustion car in a spot for elec w/a charging station and wondered how stupid these people are?

How long are you normally at the bank each stop?
5 mins, maybe 10, worst case?

Any of these idiots have a clue what 10 mins of charging will do for their spitter mobile ��

[David - WI]

It's probably for the boss's virtue-wagon, but they don't want anybody to know they spent the money for him/her so they make it "public"... knowing nobody else will use it?

[PanRonnie]

I think it has been tried before and not much has changed the electrical department!
This was 2013

https://youtu.be/WskXmWm_Uww

[Chaz]

Most folks I know are fairly reasonable and levelheaded. They, as I care about the condition of the planet that we leave to our children and grandchildren.
However, the way over the top left wing views (and rules) do nothing but put the United States at a bigger disadvantage in the global economy on a daily basis.
No .. ??? Try to get Russia, China, Indonesia, India and the Congo to adapt our rules into their way of doing business. They could give two xxxx's about you, me or the environment. Those who stand on the soapbox and beat the drum for "clean energy" now, are just showing support for anti-American communist regime's.
The future that the ECO-freaks see is not next week, next month, next year or even in the next decade. At best, it's 50 to 100 years away. American politicians that have put the cart in front of the horse by declaring war on the coal and fuel industries only show how disconnected from reality they really are.
As I have said before, if you want an expensive, around town toy thats not really good for much else, then by all means .. go buy a Tesla.
If you think your saving the world, bare in mind that it takes fossil fuels, coal and nuclear power in it's production, and shifts extremely hazardous material mining outside of our peripheral vision, only to be stuck with them once their usefulness has expired. Short sighted and foolish for just a look at me, look at me, moment.
Cell phone battery's are bad enough, a 1200 pound car battery is just pure insanity.
Building a 150+ mph electric boat will take what . ??? A 2000 pound battery. So if that boat crashes in a fresh water lake. That battery splits open .. you gonna take your grandkid to that lake next week to swim in the ... :nonod:

1. Cathode material: Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4/LFP); Lithium Nickel Manganese Cobalt Oxide (LiNiMnCoO2 powder, include NMC811,NCM622,NMC 532,NMC111); Lithium Cobalt Oxide (LCO); Lithium Manganese Oxide (LMO); Organic solvent Methyl-2-pyrrolidinone (NMP); Binder polyvinylidene fluoride (PVDF); Alumium foil etc.

2. Anode material: Battery Graphite (include artificial type and natural type);Mesophase Carbon Micro Beads (MCMB); Lithium Titanate powder (LTO); Solvent Styrene Butadiene Rubber (SBR); Organic Polymer Carboxymethyl Cellulose (CMC); Petroleum Coke; Carbon Fiber; Pyrolytic Resin Carbon, Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE); Copper foil etc.

3. Other material: Battery electrolyte, such as LiPF6; Battery separator, PP and PE membrane; Lithium Metal Chips/Foil/Ingot; Hard Carbon (Irregular type and spherical type); Aluminum laminated film for pouch cell cases making; Nickel Strip (http://www.aotbattery.com/product/Pure-Nickel-Strip-for-18650-Battery.html)/foil; Teflon tape; High temperature tape; Battery Strapping Tape for pouch cell etc.

Ohh my, just look some of those up .. no wonder our gov doesn't allow those minerals to be mined or produced here .. but it's OK to throw em in the landfill .. :eek: Can we be any more ignorant .. :rolleyes:

[FUJIMO]

...amen chuck...

[JPEROG]

Just spent two days with a relative who is a top big wheel for Delphi. His quote "Biden admin. is giving us an open checkbook to make battery efficiency better". The money they are spending for autonomous vehicle development is absolutely breath taking. He has made it 100% his personal agenda to defeat and destroy fossil fuel and any machinery that relies on it. These guys are off the charts with demands from vendors and although they are improving, it won't be a reality in Joe Biden's remaining lifespan. Something else to ponder "why is Barack Obama still living in Washington D.C.?" All he has ever done is bad mouth it in the past and traveled away from it on our tab.

Joe

[CUDA]

Don't worry grasshopper, everything is always being improved.


Solid-state EV batteries without expensive lithium made possible by magnesium conductivity breakthrough

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Researchers from the Tokyo University of Science have cracked the code of using plentiful magnesium instead of expensive lithium in the next generation of solid-state electric vehicle batteries (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Svolt-unveils-true-solid-state-EV-battery-with-energy-density-that-allows-over-620-miles-on-a-charge.635867.0.html?_gl=1*1qeo5ny*_ga*MTI1MDc2ODU4OS4xNjMzOTQxMzc1*_ga_XLBGPKWB3N*MTY1OTYxODUzNS4yN S4xLjE2NTk2MTg2NjAuMA..). The decades-long magnesium conductivity hurdle before replacing lithium as a solid-state battery material has been overcome by adding organic materials and an accelerator. Junior Associate Professor Masaaki Sadakiyo explains the breakthrough as follows:

In this work, we exploited a class of materials called metal-organic frameworks (MOFs). MOFs have highly porous crystal structures, which provide the space for efficient migration of the included ions. Here, we additionally introduced a "guest molecule," acetonitrile, into the pores of the MOF, which succeeded in strongly accelerating the conductivity of Mg2+.[/COLOR]

As a result, the typically low level of magnesium ions' conductivity in solid materials at room temperature, has been greatly increased to reach the 10-3 S cm-1 threshold required for tangible application in solid-state batteries.
This superconductivity of magnesium ions may have thus hit a record, but it is the minimum required for practical solid-state battery production, so the team of Japanese scientists is now focused on improving the conductivity level of the new magnesium-based material even further.
Unlike lithium, magnesium is not considered a rare earth material and is abundant in the earth's crust. Moreover, Elon Musk recently urged lithium mining companies like the Australian ones (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-pegs-Australia-as-key-to-solving-the-electric-car-battery-production-crunch.635578.0.html?_gl=1*1ycyaz5*_ga*MTI1MDc2ODU4OS4xNjMzOTQxMzc1*_ga_XLBGPKWB3N*MTY1OTYxODUzNS4yN S4xLjE2NTk2MTg2NjAuMA..) to go into refining, too, as a "license to print money (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Elon-Musk-says-lithium-refiners-print-money-as-the-largest-producer-breaks-ground-on-a-huge-solid-state-battery-factory.638243.0.html?_gl=1*1ycyaz5*_ga*MTI1MDc2ODU4OS4xNjMzOTQxMzc1*_ga_XLBGPKWB3N*MTY1OTYxODUzNS4y NS4xLjE2NTk2MTg2NjAuMA..)," since battery-grade lithium refiners are few and far between and most of them are located in China.
Swapping lithium for magnesium in solid-state batteries will allow electric car makers to escape the near-monopoly of Chinese lithium refiners, as well as significantly lower the per-unit cell cost of the promising technology.
Solid-state batteries (https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-semi-solid-state-360-Wh-kg-battery-batch-for-the-620-mile-range-NIO-ET7-proves-surprisingly-affordable-to-make.637577.0.html?_gl=1*1jbw3n3*_ga*MTI1MDc2ODU4OS4xNjMzOTQxMzc1*_ga_XLBGPKWB3N*MTY1OTYxODUzNS4yNS4 xLjE2NTk2MTg2NjAuMA..) have many advantages before the current chemistries, mainly in terms of safety and durability, so any breakthrough research that makes them easier and cheaper to make is welcome news for both the major electric vehicle makers, and their future customers.
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Daniel Zlatev, 2022-08- 4 (Update: 2022-08- 4)

[powerabout]

if there was green power then hydrogen will be the only carbon neutral power source for mobile transport.
Where is the world are electric cars not powered by coal?
The faster the take up the more we pollute.

[CUDA]

Hold on grasshopper It's getting better all the time

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=53779

[CUDA]

<article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer is-unread" data-author="cuda" data-content="post-667160" id="js-post-667160" style="box-sizing: border-box; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: rgb(223, 223, 223) rgb(216, 216, 216) rgb(203, 203, 203); background: rgb(254, 254, 254); border-radius: 4px; margin-top: 6px; opacity: 1;"><article class="message-body js-selectToQuote" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Many groups across the world are trying to make batteries cheaper safer without unique rare earth materials ...

US Energy Department sets US$11 million solid-state EV battery research hub to explore ceramic ions as lithium alternative​

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The US Department of Energy has found the University of Michigan's ceramic ion conductivity breakthrough so promising, that it fronted it with nearly $11 million for a new research hub. There, the four-year grant will be used to develop solid-state EV batteries using ceramic instead of lithium ions.
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The US Department of Energy (DOE) has granted US$10.9 million to University of Michigan (U-M) researchers to explore the viability of ceramic ions as alternative to lithium in future solid-state EV batteries (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Solid-state-EV-batteries-without-expensive-lithium-made-possible-by-magnesium-conductivity-breakthrough.638783.0.html). The university has long been researching the use of a solid ceramic electrolyte instead of the flammable liquid ones that current EV batteries employ.
The recent discovery of ceramic ion conductors that simultaneously exhibit unprecedented performance and stability has the potential to change the electrochemical energy storage technology landscape... Our new center seeks to bridge fundamental knowledge gaps related to mechano-chemistry with a diverse group of researchers who come from disparate fields of study.
Whoever masters the safer, cheaper solid-state battery technology that can theoretically double the energy density of lithium batteries, will win the multibillion race for electric vehicle and energy storage systems, hence the early government investment in the promising ceramic ion tech:


Graphite can hold only one lithium ion for every six carbon atoms, giving it a specific capacity of approximately 350 milliampere hours per gram (mAh/g.) The lithium metal in a solid state battery has a specific capacity of 3,800 mAh/g. Current lithium ion batteries max out with a total energy density around 600 watt-hours per liter (Wh/L) at the cell level. In principal, solid-state batteries can reach 1,200 Wh/L.
To solve lithium metal’s combustion problem, U-M engineers created a ceramic layer that stabilizes the surface—keeping dendrites from forming and preventing fires. It allows batteries to harness the benefits of lithium metal—energy density and high-conductivity—without the dangers of fires or degradation over time.

Another professor of mechanical engineering at the University of Michigan, Neil Dasgupta, who will be the deputy director of the DOE's MUSIC hub, says there is now the practical phase to be carried out:
However, critical barriers remain before widespread commercialization can be realized - many of which center around the unique mechanical properties that emerge at solid-solid interfaces in electrochemical cells. An overarching goal of MUSIC is to reveal the fundamental mechanisms of how mechanical stresses and strains interact with electrochemistry, which will inform future efforts to scale-up and accelerate commercialization of next-generation energy storage technology.


The DOE-sponsored research center will also aim to find the cheapest solid-state battery manufacturing method as well as explore how lithium or sodium metal chemistries with ceramic ion conductors lose their charging capacity over time compared to current Li-ion technology in cars, phones, or laptops.

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[powerabout]

once green power exists hydrogen will make batteries look like old tech

[PanRonnie]

Battery's or hydrogen the elefant in the room is the where is the power coming from!
We are going to need nuclear, Fission or Fusion windmills and solar panels are not going to do it
If you are truly wurried about your carbon footprint stop buying or using stuff
This means you don't generate emisions or pollutions
The next best thing is reducing your energy needs insulate your home's so you need less energy to heat or cool it
Buy used stuff and keep it running with used parts!
Dumpster diving was not frowned upon before "planned obsoleceance"
People made due with second hand cloths,parts and furniture
Buy stuff because you need it not because you want it

And yes i need a 1992 epoxy/kevlar skater 24 with atleast one second engine over 20 years old
Last year in total used 400 liters of fuel on this boat buying porkchops engines will dramaticly increase my instant emisions value but will give lower pollutions in the water offcourse so the time will come if they build the engine i want or have to do it myself

[CUDA]

https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/03/26/3-reasons-hydrogen-fuels-wont-live-up-to-the-hype.aspx

[CUDA]

https://www.google.com/search?q=don%27t+be+fooled+youtube+hydrogen&rlz=1C1LOQA_enUS775US775&oq=don%27t+be+fooled+youtube+hy&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j33i160l2j33i22i29i30i625l2j33i22i29i30.29215j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:9cfb91be,vid:gu1v7d7-Wh0

[David - WI]

Put biodegradable injection oil in an Opti or Etec and your total environmental pollution will probably be less than a new four stroke... when you count used oil disposal.

(It seems the current biodegradable four-stroke oils turn to sludge pretty fast. :eek: )

[David - WI]

Tesla owner says he had to cancel Christmas plans because car would not charge in freezing weather
"Two hours went by and not much changed," Nati told the outlet. "It was very slow and the numbers got lower as the temperature dropped. Eventually, it stopped charging altogether."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/tesla-owner-says-cancel-christmas-plans-car-would-not-charge-freezing-weather

[noli]

.



Teslas pre-condition their batteries ( in other words, warm them up ) before allowing the charge to begin


if you're driving cross-country and wish to sleep in your Tesla , you can keep the heat on all nite or keep the a/c on all nite while in "Camp-mode" (depending on the season of the year)

Enjoy!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-c8AUeKs5c









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[noli]

.


Toyota Sienna , another electrified vehicle (hybrid) , will keep you warm all nite while camping out in -2*F temps, engine starts and stops only to charge the on-board batteries

If it's summertime and you wish to camp in your Sienna, same deal, the car will keep you cool all nite using up only .5 gallon of fuel over an 8 hour period , the engine starts and stop only to keep the batteries charged


Enjoy



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGFPH4v7MIw










.

[Chaz]

Well it's abundantly clear who the Pro~China / **** America .. ahh, eh-hem, members are .. :rolleyes: May you drink and bathe in :

1. Cathode material: Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4/LFP); Lithium Nickel Manganese Cobalt Oxide (LiNiMnCoO2 powder, include NMC811,NCM622,NMC 532,NMC111); Lithium Cobalt Oxide (LCO); Lithium Manganese Oxide (LMO); Organic solvent Methyl-2-pyrrolidinone (NMP); Binder polyvinylidene fluoride (PVDF); Alumium foil etc.

2. Anode material: Battery Graphite (include artificial type and natural type);Mesophase Carbon Micro Beads (MCMB); Lithium Titanate powder (LTO); Solvent Styrene Butadiene Rubber (SBR); Organic Polymer Carboxymethyl Cellulose (CMC); Petroleum Coke; Carbon Fiber; Pyrolytic Resin Carbon, Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE); Copper foil etc.

3. Other material: Battery electrolyte, such as LiPF6; Battery separator, PP and PE membrane; Lithium Metal Chips/Foil/Ingot; Hard Carbon (Irregular type and spherical type); Aluminum laminated film for pouch cell cases making; Nickel Strip (http://www.aotbattery.com/product/Pure-Nickel-Strip-for-18650-Battery.html)/foil; Teflon tape; High temperature tape; Battery Strapping Tape for pouch cell etc.


​Polluted water, till your doctor says .. humm, must be something you ate or contracted thru your skin ... :eek:

If I was traveling cross country. I would go when it wasn't -20* below .. :rolleyes:

But OK , so I get caught in the "twilight zone" .. :o

I wouldn't drive a POS golf cart .. I'd drive my motorhome. It has a dash heater, central heating and I guess if push came to shove ... I could light the oven, and fill the pots and pans full of hot water .. And no, I wouldn't even think about the $10 or $20 dollars in fuel .. all those things cumulatively would burn .. Why ? Cuz thats what it's there for .. for us to use .. :thumbsup:

@ 20 below .. look at the chart. You wouldn't be going cross country, you'd be going cross town before looking for "another" charging station.
While other families are hooked to the two chargers on the property .. over night to keep warm .. you'd be wondering how to turn off the battery warmers before they kill the battery's completely.
Sorry to be a buzz~kill when it comes to the left-wing utopian dream. But the facts are .. everyone says "how great it's gonna be" . Maybe so, maybe not .. but for now it's just another "if my aunt was my uncle story" . Seems like no matter how much of our (tax payer) money they throw away on pork project's (no relation) , the wheel will always be a wheel and a battery will always be a battery.
I just read the instructions on a new multi unit charger Santa brought me .. ( tryin to keep up with forkin) :D
Look what it sez .... Ohh ya just can't make this dumb **** up ... :p

https://i.imgur.com/z32i61nl.jpg?1

[PanRonnie]

proper underwear does not have to be charged!
https://www.rei.com/s/wool-underwear



https://youtu.be/CIWvk3gJ_7E

[noli]

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EV's Will Kill Us All !



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQyJXhgV2TU












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[noli]

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The nice thing about the Toyota Sienna Hybrid is that this same Hybrid system can be found in all of Toyota's Hybrid system. Thus if you don't want to spend 35K on the Sienna LE , you can buy a Corolla Hybrid for $22K and still travel through freezing temps or hot weather very comfortably inside Toyota Hybrids (as seen in Youtube demos)




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[noli]

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Tesla camping in Death Valley




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RBozlnOnFc







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[Chaz]

The reason I'm a Joe Rogan podcast subscriber is because he 'throws the ball across the plate".

The reason I don't watch idiots like the electric viking, besides him being an idiot, is because he gives no reason for his stance, just that those that don't agree with him are haters. Typical left-wing ideolog. And no, the sky is not falling .. so try to come up with something that actually makes sense .. and I'll listen. :)
If it really was falling, OhhBamba would have built a house on a mountain in Colorado, not buy a mansion on the water, in the N.E. facing the ice glaciers. making him the first afric ... err ... American to be flooded. Let that "soak in" for a moment .. :)

Camping with a Tesla. Looks like so much fun, no sink, no shower, no bed, no head (toilet) :eek: , no stove, no satellite TV. In my experience, women and children like to potty every exit. Only rule I have is .. stay in there as long as you like .. but, close any drawers, cabinets, toilet lid, water pump and door when your done. (I.E. leave it like ya found it) :o
BTW, honey, while your up ... would you make me a sammich. ;)
Only reason I would leave home for a week is to go to a racetrack or boating event.
No pulling a 28' race car trailer, no pulling a 25' boat. Just not my style to show up "empty handed" :rolleyes:
No generator to stay self-sufficient for the week to a month that I would be away from home.
I guess the bright side of ev camping is, I could sit and stare at a voltmeter and wonder if I'm going to make it to the next charging station .. where I can sit for hours and watch the voltmeter slowly rise. Hater .. naww, just not an idiot .. :D
Hey, here's an idea ... get one of these. Cheap, fun, cheap ... not much room to live in .. but hey, it's cheap .. :p

https://http2.mlstatic.com/camioneta-con-camper-mbx-rv-matchbox-D_NQ_NP_848418-MLM26455505800_112017-F.jpg

I'm a Ford and Chevy kind of guy. But if ya gotta have rice .. I'd say avoid the golf cart .. and get one of these ... :thumbsup:

Chaz = thinkin, noli didn't buy a new golf cart or porkchop in 2022 .. :nonod: and the forecast looks the same for 2023 .. :rolleyes:
If that's not true .. I'll buy lunch .. and drive. Cuz no, I'm not showin up to Flannigan's in a XXXXXXX golf-cart ... :cheers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl1FNX08HFc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUWMc92W1wQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Yy5P6FUes

[noli]

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Chaz,




You owe me a steak lunch, see you in January

:)



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[powerabout]

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EV's Will Kill Us All !



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQyJXhgV2TU












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electric cars in oz run on coal
they will reduce pollution in cities thats for sure.
They cost lots more so its a long payback hence the very poor takeup.

[Chaz]

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Chaz,
You owe me a steak lunch, see you in January

:)

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noli, you would have been so much farther ahead to just walk in with a registration, payment book, title, in your name , to the vehicle you drove up in .. :p

No, your not the shot-caller .. :nonod:

If you bought a Tesla "played~s" .. then by all means .. a steak dinner for lunch .. :smiletest:

If you bought a low-budget, bottom of the line rice-box .. they have a matching $5.99 lunch special menu that's right up your alley ... :thumbsup:

A lease, rental or your neighbors car ... is not buying, so don't even bother tryin. There's a big BS salesman ... err .. gator hole at the end of my street .. we could always find him something to eat .. :eek:

Show a brochure of the 2023 you "plan" on buying ... then I'd say, see ya in Jan of 2024 ... :thumbsup:

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Power states :

electric cars in oz run on coal

Power ol boy,
They will never understand that the energy that they use, is produced somewhere other than the handle, cord, switch at their disposal .. ;)

[CUDA]

Nothing wrong with natural gas,



Energy & Environment (https://www.statista.com/markets/408/energy-environment/)›
Energy (https://www.statista.com/markets/408/topic/436/energy/)


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</header> Natural gas is the leading source of electricity generation in Florida. In 2020, it accounted for more than three quarters of the power generated in the U.S. state. Nuclear power followed in second, but by a wide margin, representing some 11.8 percent of Florida's electricity production that year.

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[Chaz]

Ppsssttttt KRUM, Power lives in Australia. :rolleyes:

[PanRonnie]

If there is nothing wrong with natural gas it's a lot cheaper to get a megasquirt and cng injectors for your car
Since you also use the heat from the engine this would be more effecient than turning gas into electricity to than turn it into heat and moving

[powerabout]

If there is nothing wrong with natural gas it's a lot cheaper to get a megasquirt and cng injectors for your car
Since you also use the heat from the engine this would be more effecient than turning gas into electricity to than turn it into heat and moving
You will like this then ( there is a Dutch connection too..)
(Ford in OZ did a model for 100% gas as OZ is drowning in it, the clown gov taxed it into oblivion so back to petrol that pollutes more and we need to import it).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sa9Ffwb9xQ

[PanRonnie]

We have a lot of idiots in europe both in Brussel and Den Haag
This pandanmic of morons is more damaging than corona
We had a lot of cars running on lpg ( mixture of propaan and butaan)
The goverment taxed it out of exsistence

[Chaz]

I see they are following the FJB play book. Plenty of Oil, Coal + LP gas in the USA , but FJB has declared war on those industries. Gave our reserves to Communist China and now begs the Saudi's for oil ... dumb as a box of rocks .. :(

[CUDA]

What's wrong with you charlie, why do you make every section a political section,

Talk about dumb as a box of rocks.

[powerabout]

Energy and EV's are all political

[PanRonnie]

Burning trees to make electricity is political!
So plzz call your congresman and tel him to ban export of trees or socalled biomass to europe as we cannot get these idiots to stop with this stupidity :leaving:

[CUDA]

https://youtu.be/CAfGozXBou0

[Chaz]

Energy and EV's are all political

No matter how many times he's told, the information seems to get lost. Must be like 50 first dates with him.

He asked what's wrong with me, I'll keep it simple for him ..

For the last 30 years or so, I've made a hook shot into my brokerage account @ FNB. Not every month, but at least every quarter.
Today it's worth aprox. 65 to 70% of what it was two years ago. FJB
At the same time, everything at the store (if they have it) has gone up 30 to 40% FJB
Gasoline was $1.95 a gallon. Today it hovers around $4.00 A 100% increase. FJB
I have a nice truck that I take care of. I don't want a truck that works less than half as good for twice the money I paid for the one I have. Same goes for my wife's jeep. FJB
I could go onto many more examples of incompetence, but it would take all day and this thread is about economics and energy ... :thumbsup:

[bouyhead]

Energy and EV's are all political

It's a big feeding trough filled with taxpayer money

[PanRonnie]

https://youtu.be/Qf85EuQKWeQ

[perfmarine1]

https://youtu.be/Qf85EuQKWeQ

This guy is misinformed, Tesla makes a tractor trailer and guarantees it for 1 million miles.

[PanRonnie]

He might look like a tree hugger but i really think he knows what he is talking about!
to sum up his message
There is not enough raw materials outside of Russia or China to make the current EV shift
and even to produce them generates more greenhouse gasses than a fossil fuel solution would
Now hybrid ( fossil LNG generators ) could atleast start up an electrifying enviroment that would be adaptable to whichever solution will proof best
either better battery technologie, fuel cells or something completly new without knocking on Mr Putins door


https://youtu.be/UA-jOLF2T4c

[powerabout]

Peter Zeihan is great
you get the macro geopolitical picture without any bias.

[noli]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICwSNtppV_8










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[WavetoWave]

Mercury's new Avator electric outboard line

https://www.wavetowave.com/home/2023/1/12/mercury-marine-wades-into-the-future-with-new-electric-outboard-the-75e-avator

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[PanRonnie]

https://www.elcomotoryachts.com/our-story/

Jared could you do an article about a true american brand?
Maybe with some first hand experience testing!

[Chaz]

https://www.elcomotoryachts.com/our-story/

Jared could you do an article about a true american brand?
Maybe with some first hand experience testing!

I think he would love to test one .. but the POS won't run long enough to actually test anything .. :rolleyes:

[WavetoWave]

https://www.elcomotoryachts.com/our-story/

Jared could you do an article about a true american brand?
Maybe with some first hand experience testing!

I would consider it, I've seen the Elco's. Generally I stick to the performance stuff, unless it's really interesting or tongue in cheek.

[Chaz]

Don't waste your time .. the dims lost the house. The gov (part that controls the purse) no longer wish's to punish the American people with nonsense ... :thumbsup:

[PanRonnie]

I would consider it, I've seen the Elco's. Generally I stick to the performance stuff, unless it's really interesting or tongue in cheek.

I am sure you can come up with something! :cheers:


https://youtu.be/61wOpDF8J1w

[PanRonnie]

it,s good to know what your options are for when you finally get that pontoon boat! :nonod: ;)

[noli]

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2023 F1 Auto racing Hybrid Engine explained


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlMq0tZBaRg





Toyota Hybrid System ... similar?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFVd_fCiO88












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[CUDA]

They said It could not be done...


https://electrek.co/2023/01/13/this-240t-electric-mining-haul-truck-can-charge-in-30-minutes/



https://youtu.be/2qTH7banEBs


https://youtu.be/W86gTwc7sm4?list=TLGG-Zs_OhF8CIoxNjAxMjAyMw



The Holy Grail of battery technology is finding a way to make solid-state batteries. What does that mean? Virtually all lithium-based batteries in use today are manufactured in the same “jelly roll” configuration that has been used to make batteries for decades. The components are rolled into a spiral with a semi-liquid paste in between. That paste keeps the anode and cathode separated and promotes the flow of electrons between them.
Battery manufacturers have enormous amounts of money tied up in production equipment that supports the jelly roll method of making batteries. That means no matter how swell some new technology might be, it will usually get a cold shoulder from battery makers if it doesn’t make use of the production equipment they already use.
The Allure Of Solid-State BatteriesConventional batteries have one significant drawback, however. That semi-liquid paste is often flammable. If a short circuit occurs within the cell, it can overheat and burst into flames, often in rather spectacular fashion.
Solid-state batteries avoid that risk. They may also have somewhat longer life and higher energy densities than conventional cells. Lastly, because the risk of fire is so low, they can be charged more quickly using higher power charging equipment. Whether or not all this goodness will come with a higher price tag than conventional batteries is unknown at this time.
Solid Power Ships First Solid-State BatteriesSolid Power (https://cleantechnica.com/2022/06/07/solid-power-begins-manufacturing-prototype-solid-state-batteries/) has been chasing the solid-state battery dream for more than 5 years (https://cleantechnica.com/2017/12/18/bmw-solid-power-jointly-develop-solid-state-batteries-electric-vehicles/). It has forged relationships with BMW and Ford and said earlier this year it would begin supplying prototypes to manufacturers soon. Automakers use those prototypes to measure their performance in real world situations — freezing cold, blazing heat, long distance driving, fast charging, and so forth. They test them for durability, longevity, and degradation.
Solid Power announced on December 21 (https://ir.solidpowerbattery.com/news-releases/news-release-details/solid-power-and-bmw-deepen-joint-development-partnership) that it has deepened its partnership with the BMW Group by granting it a research and development license to Solid Power’s all solid-state cell design and manufacturing know-how.

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The broadened relationship provides significant benefits to both companies, including conducting complementary cell development and manufacturing activities at both Solid Power and BMW to further advance the capability of Solid Power’s technology. BMW intends to duplicate Solid Power’s pilot production lines at its own facility in Germany and produce prototype cells based on Solid Power’s proprietary technology. Prior to the installation of the prototype line, BMW personnel will work hand in hand at Solid Power’s facilities to optimize cell manufacturing processes.
“We could not be more excited about growing our relationship with BMW, a company that has demonstrated a strong commitment to Solid Power’s technology for the past seven years,” said Dr. Derek Johnson, CEO of Solid Power. “We believe this expanded partnership and increased collaboration is an added vote of confidence in Solid Power’s technology development.”
“BMW remains committed to the pursuit of all-solid-state batteries, a technology which we believe has significant potential for the future,” said Frank Weber, BMW board member responsible for research and development. “We look forward to working even more closely with Solid Power and adding the capability to produce solid state cells based on its designs at our own pilot facility. We expect this agreement to accelerate the installation of our solid-state prototype line and our companies’ mutual goal of commercializing this promising cell technology.”
BMW has agreed to pay Solid Power $20 million through June 2024, subject to achieving certain milestones. The new agreement includes sharing of proprietary solid-state electrode and cell manufacturing know-how, but does not include a license to intellectual property related to Solid Power’s electrolyte material, which remains its core business. Once BMW installs its prototype production line, Solid Power expects to supply its electrolyte material to BMW for prototype cell production.

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“Expanding our relationship with BMW is further evidence that both companies believe Solid Power is on the right track with its technology development,” said David Jansen, Interim CEO, President and Chair of Solid Power. “I am encouraged by the progress our team continues to make toward achieving our company’s goals. Over the past several months, we began delivering 20 Ah cells to our partners, including BMW, for initial testing and commenced production of our initial EV cells. We look forward to bringing our electrolyte manufacturing facility online and commencing the formal automotive qualification process.”
Solar Power says it replaces the flammable liquid electrolyte in a conventional lithium-ion battery with a proprietary sulfide-based solid electrolyte. As a result, its solid-state cells are expected to be safer and more stable across a broad temperature range, provide an increase in energy density compared to the best available rechargeable battery cells, enable less expensive, more energy-dense battery pack designs, and be compatible with traditional lithium-ion manufacturing processes.
Et Tu, QuantumScape?In a happy coincidence, on December 20, QuantumScape (https://cleantechnica.com/2021/03/12/vw-quantumscape-bring-solid-state-batteries-closer-to-reality/), the solid-state battery startup supported by Volkswagen, issued its own press release (https://ir.quantumscape.com/resources/press-releases/news-details/2022/QuantumScape-Ships-First-24-Layer-Prototype-Battery-Cells-to-Automotive-OEMs/default.aspx) that said it has shipped its first 24-layer prototype lithium metal battery cells to automotive OEMs for testing. Delivery of these cells, referred to as A0 samples, was the company’s key public milestone for the year, and achieving this goal represents an important step toward the commercialization of this technology.
With 24 layers, each comprising a solid-state separator, a cathode, and an in situ formed lithium metal anode, these prototype cells have capacities in the multi amp-hour range, a range the company believes is relevant for a variety of applications including automotive and consumer electronics.
With these cells, the OEMs can start the testing process at their facilities and provide feedback on the performance of the cells. The company still has substantial work ahead to bring this technology to market, including improvements to the quality, consistency, and throughput of its production processes, and additional enhancements on the product side, such as increased cathode capacity loading and improved packaging efficiency. The company expects to deliver improvements on these fronts in subsequent generations of A, B, and C samples over the coming years.
“I’m proud of our team for all the effort and determination that went into achieving this milestone, especially in light of the challenges we encountered this year,” said Jagdeep Singh, CEO of QuantumScape. “While this milestone brings us closer to our ultimate goal, there’s still a lot to do before this technology becomes a commercial product, and we now turn our attention to this important work.”
The A0 cells were built in QuantumScape’s new cell format, which was another important goal for the year. This new architecture is a hybrid between prismatic and pouch cells designed to support the uniaxial expansion and contraction of the lithium metal during charge and discharge. The company plans to host a virtual event in the new year to share more about this innovative new cell format.

[John S]

This thing is badass!

https://www.reviewgeek.com/142687/former-tesla-exec-shows-off-new-electric-boat-ahead-of-production/

[CUDA]

When these become common, game over, another few years...

They will get better every year.

https://www.quantumscape.com/technology/

[Chaz]

Gonna be ??? :eek:

Nice video games noli .. :rolleyes:

P.T. Barnum was right, and another two followed right behind you ..... :D

If "my aunt was my uncle" .. noli would be able to drive one of those over complicated xxxx-box's to my place in the next two weeks .. to collect on his "free lunch". :smiletest:

Hard to drive dreams though ... I would think at some point , noli's gonna wake up and say .. Chaz, your right, I'm gonna pick you up in my gasoline powered rice-box and buy you lunch ... ;)

Chaz = thinkin, I must be dreamin to think the lefty-loon's will return to earth anytime soon ... :p

[XstreamVking]

Same system as a 2011 volt? They are really making some GIANT strides in the last 23 years huh?

[hellbents-10]

From the little reading I have done on the solid state batteries it does not seem to be a game changer. Better then the current batt. tech? Yes, but not enough to change the world. Still 15+++ min charge times for the 400 mile range my cruze has with a 2 min fill up. I run 85-90mph and get 33mpg on my premium fuel tune with 21psi of boost.

[Brad Zastrow]

Some of the facts here are off. Currently some Tesla's have a range of 400 miles, get the equivalent of 125 mpg, the performance of a Corvette, and can get a supercharge to 80% in 20 minutes. Best part that is full size luxury car. EV's are coming whether or not you like it. Prices will go down and battery technology is getting better. That is why every auto manufacturer is going that route. I have a Tesla S and a Porsche Panamera. We have gone on very long trips in the Tesla but the charging time even at 20 mins is too long for me. I prefer the Porsche for those trips now. But for 99% of our driving the Tesla is incredible and cheap to drive.

[CUDA]

They say 2 to 10 times the capacity of todays batteries

Since everyone around the world is working on these It's going to get better all the time, why $$$ to be made

to those who make advancements in good technology, batteries is what is holsing back solar, because you need power all day long and battries today are very expensive.


they will get cheaper, using less lithium, Cobalt if any at all.

QuantumScape’s San Jose campus in the heart of Silicon Valley is abuzz with confidence. The battery-technology company’s “QS Campus,” which includes QS-0, QuantumScape’s pre-pilot production line, and three adjacent buildings, is largely dedicated to manufacturing space. The scale of the campus itself and the company’s investment—each building is under a confirmed 10-year lease as of November 2021—signals QuantumScape’s assurance that it will be the first company to market with a solid-state battery for electric vehicles.
QuantumScape claims that you will be able to buy an Audi or Volkswagen with its batteries as soon as 2024, a vehicle that can go nearly 400 miles on a single charge (https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a40049688/how-much-does-it-cost-to-charge-electric-cars/), then recharge in 15 minutes. That capability would grant solid-state EVs a huge advantage over their competitors, which rely on the ubiquitous—but weaker—lithium-ion (https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a39762633/gallium-nitride-could-replace-lithium-in-ev-batteries/) (Li-on) batteries. All-solid-state batteries (ASSBs) promise prolonged life, faster charge times, and safer chemistry compared to Li-on options, but producing them on the scale needed to power millions of vehicles won’t be easy, despite the billions of dollars already invested in the tech. Companies like QuantumScape are racing to reach the market ahead of other battery-focused outfits like Solid Power in Colorado and ProLogium Technology in Taiwan, as well as giant auto makers like Nissan. The competition begets, maybe even necessitates, bold claims, and QuantumScape isn’t short on those.
The all-solid-state battery at QuantumScape has reportedly weathered what chief marketing officer Asim Hussain calls, by the company’s own measure, “gold standard” testing. The ASSBs have fast-charged their cells (going from 10 to 80 percent in 15 minutes) 400 times consecutively, and some have gone through a total discharge and charge cycle almost 1,000 times. “Traditional lithium-ion cells, or any other solid-state effort to date, couldn’t even come close to that,” Hussain says.
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QuantumScape boasts that it could deliver early prototype battery (https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a39957765/machine-learning-could-build-a-longer-lasting-battery/) cells (what they call “A-samples”) to Volkswagen, its largest shareholder, as soon as this year. By the end of 2023, it plans to build a pre-production line and deliver ASSBs to Volkswagen for integration in a test car scheduled for 2024 or 2025. By that time, QuantumScape hopes to have solid-state batteries leaving its first gigafactory—a Silicon Valley term originally used by Tesla to describe a large-footprint, machine-building plant.
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</section>For the millions of potential EV buyers (https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a40300546/chip-shortage-car-buying-tips/) in the U.S. over the next few years, solid-state batteries promise three advantages over current electric power packs: longer driving range, faster recharging, and safer chemistry. EV sales reached 487,460 units in 2021—almost 10 percent of all new vehicles sold—and Q4 sales jumped 72 percent year-over-year. Despite the surge, the battery tech powering all those electric motors still lags behind what’s capable with gas-fueled internal combustion engines.
Nearly all EVs rely on lithium-ion batteries for power. According to EPA stats, these deliver an average combined-range of 235 miles—barely half the distance of most gas-powered vehicles before they require a fill-up. To win over customers, EVs need to match or exceed the performance of their internal-combustion counterparts since they can’t yet compete on price. That’s where ASSBs provide an advantage. Compared to current Li-on power packs, they promise much greater energy density— the amount of power they produce proportional to their weight or volume. Leading lithium-ion batteries boast an energy density of about 600 watt-hours per liter, but QuantumScape expects its ASSB to achieve an average energy density of 1,000 watt-hours per liter. That could extend the average EV range to between 375 and 400 miles, Hussain says, nearly equaling the average range of internal-combustion engines.
The crucial difference between ASSBs and Li-on batteries is the material they use between the electrodes. Both types of batteries work by sending ions from one electrode, called the cathode, to another, the anode. Lithium-ion batteries use a liquid between the two, which makes them relatively easy to produce. Solid-state batteries use a solid electrolyte material. The specific chemical makeup of that solid varies from company to company and it is often kept secret—the battery industry’s equivalent to the Coca-Cola or Pepsi recipe. Common solid electrolytes include crystalline ceramics, glass ceramics, and organic-based polymers. Using a solid as this pathway is more effective than using a liquid given the right material—the tighter-packed molecules in a solid can simply house more energy in the same amount of space.
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</section>QuantumScape is developing its batteries with a ceramic electrolyte in part because the material is less susceptible to dendrite formation—a common trouble area for lithium batteries in which lithium ions clump on the battery’s anode over the course of many charge cycles to form highly reactive stalagtites that can cause a short, loss of power, or even fire. Although QuantumScape’s ASSB requires lithium in its construction, the company asserts dendrites won’t be a threat. In general, battery makers claim that ASSBs will be safer than traditional batteries, offering that solid electrolytes are largely non-flammable, lowering the risk of a battery fire and eliminating the need for thermal-management systems found in liquid-electrolyte batteries.
There’s one place ASSBs in development still won’t likely be able to overtake combustion engines: the time it takes to refuel. QuantumScape says its EV battery will take 15 minutes to go from 10 to 80 percent. That’s dramatically less time than it takes most EVs today, but still longer than the five to seven minutes it takes to refill a conventional vehicle at the pump (though it does render an overnight iPhone charge frustratingly sluggish by comparison).

[XstreamVking]

You have 2 cool cars. I agree they are great performance machines. But big boys toys are their main function.

[Chaz]

Some of the facts here are off. Currently some Tesla's have a range of 400 miles, get the equivalent of 125 mpg, the performance of a Corvette, and can get a supercharge to 80% in 20 minutes. Best part that is full size luxury car. EV's are coming whether or not you like it. Prices will go down and battery technology is getting better. That is why every auto manufacturer is going that route. I have a Tesla S and a Porsche Panamera. We have gone on very long trips in the Tesla but the charging time even at 20 mins is too long for me. I prefer the Porsche for those trips now. But for 99% of our driving the Tesla is incredible and cheap to drive.

Here's a few more facts commadore Z,

Spend a few minutes extra on the charger ... rates go UP UP UP

I usually put the little trigger lock on WFO .. click when full .. might squeeze in another dollar.

If 80% is supercharged, what's it called and how much longer does it take for a full tank ... err .. charged battery.

What do you do with yourself for a half hour while the gas guy is 35-40 miles farther down the highway .. no don't tell me, I fear I know the answer already.

Thats great milage .. but then air conditioning, radio, kids playing video games in the back seat, wife charging her phone ... make the inflated number go DOWN DOWN DOWN

Really .. another if my aunt was my uncle statement ... "batterys are getting better".
You might gotz money to throw away .. but a crystal ball you don't.
Sorry, but it's lying, BSing, or just wishful thinking ... until it happens.
Which one are you .. ?

They can offer them for sale all they want, don't mean I have to buy one. If we get the fourth term of Bubamba in two years .. then we might go full commie. But good news is MTG got appointed to the Homeland Security committee today .. having gas at the pumps is a matter of National Security.

So a Volkswagen Americanna starts at 92,400 to 206,800 average $149,600

A Played out S is 94,990 to 129,990 average 112,990

Did you really spend $ 262,090 on a couple of golf carts ???

As my friends in the Carolina's would say .. Ohh bless your heart .. :thumbsup:

But lookin on the bright side .. you could be a westie. Seem's they have went full tard along with having to stay home with dead batterys.

Ya just can't make up that kind of ignorance .. :p

CRUM .. are you his advisor .. by chance ???

https://i.imgur.com/zOCtvvrl.jpg

[Chaz]

Besides never opening one of the village idiots links, because what's written within is 99% liberal BS.

But because twice before ... I have had to clear my computer because of his obviously contaminated hard drive and the malware he deposits on this site.

Once again, see the grey ball ... from post #673

https://i.imgur.com/Eu5Vbifl.jpg

It has now turned into jimmies gay ball .. that follows you on this thread .. maybe on the entire site.

CRUD what a POS you are ... !

I'll scan my drive .. :(

Greg, do you like your new logo ... :rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/XkhWT0bl.jpg

[PanRonnie]

In the netherlands we have the expression "the dockside will turn the ship"
Meaning all opions won't make do the ship doing something else than other than nature taking its course
2023 is going to be a very interesting year with possible disruptions in global supley chains
Imagine the saudi's and iranians having a pissing contest

[CUDA]

Charlie you always call others gay, here is why, your sick, get help.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/


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Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals

A new analysis of implicit bias and explicit sexual orientation statements may help to explain the underpinnings of anti-gay bullying and hate crimes


By Jeanna Bryner (https://www.scientificamerican.com/author/jeanna-bryner/), LiveScience (https://www.scientificamerican.com/author/livescience/) on <time itemprop="datePublished" content="2012-04-10" style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; overflow-wrap: break-word;">April 10, 2012</time>



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The prejudice of homophobia may also stem from authoritarian parents, particularly those with homophobic views as well, the researchers added.
"This study shows that if you are feeling that kind of visceral reaction to an out-group, ask yourself, 'Why?'" co-author Richard Ryan, a professor of psychology at the University of Rochester, said in a statement. "Those intense emotions should serve as a call to self-reflection."</section>
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The research, published in the April 2012 issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, reveals the nuances of prejudices like homophobia (http://www.livescience.com/10310-chronicler-homophobia-disappearance.html), which can ultimately have dire consequences. [The 10 Most Destructive Human Behaviors (http://www.livescience.com/14152-destructive-human-behaviors-bad-habits.html)]
"Sometimes people are threatened by gays and lesbians because they are fearing their own impulses, in a sense they 'doth protest too much,'" Ryan told LiveScience. "In addition, it appears that sometimes those who would oppress others have been oppressed themselves, and we can have some compassion for them too, they may be unaccepting of others because they cannot be accepting of themselves."
Ryan cautioned, however, that this link is only one source of anti-gay sentiments.
Hidden homosexuality
In four studies, the researchers looked at the discrepancies between what people say about their sexual orientation and their implicit sexual orientation (http://www.livescience.com/4678-sexual-orientation-hard-wired-worms-brains.html) based on a reaction-time test. The studies involved college students from Germany and the United States.
For the implicit measure, students had to categorize words and pictures flashed onto a computer screen into "gay" or "straight" groups. Words included "gay," "straight," "homosexual" and "heterosexual," while the pictures showed straight and gay couples. Before each trial, participants were primed with the word "me" or "others" flashed momentarily onto a computer screen. The researchers said quicker reaction time for "me" and "gay," and a slower association of "me" with "straight" would indicate said an implicit gay orientation. [Why Gay Parents May Be the Best Parents (http://www.livescience.com/17913-advantages-gay-parents.html)]
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Questionnaires also teased out the parenting style the participants were exposed to, with students asked how much they agreed or disagreed with statements such as: "I felt controlled and pressured in certain ways;" and "I felt free to be who I am." To gauge homophobia in a household, students responded to items such as, "It would be upsetting for my mom to find out she was alone with a lesbian" or "My dad avoids gay men whenever possible."
Participants indicated their own level of homophobia, both overt and implicit; in word-completion tasks, students wrote down the first three words that came to mind when prompted with some of the words' letters. Students were primed at some point with the word "gay" to see how that impacted the amount of aggressive words used.
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"In a predominately heterosexual society, 'know thyself' can be a challenge for many gay individuals," lead author Netta Weinstein, a lecturer at the University of Essex in the United Kingdom,said in a statement. "But in controlling and homophobic homes, embracing a minority sexual orientation can be terrifying." [5 Ways to Foster Self-Compassion in Your Child (http://news.techmedianetwork.com/14144-parenting-tips-compassion-esteem.html)]
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</figcaption></figure>Those participants who reported their heterosexuality despite having hidden same-sex desires were also the most likely to show hostility toward gay individuals, including self-reported anti-gay attitudes, endorsement of anti-gay policies and discrimination such as supporting harsher punishments for homosexuals.
The research may help to explain the underpinnings of anti-gay bullying (http://www.livescience.com/8994-bully-victims-suffer-silence.html) and hate crimes (http://www.livescience.com/10792-rutgers-tyler-clementi-suicide-hate-crime.html), the researchers note. People in denial about their own sexual orientation, perhaps a denial fostered by authoritarian and homophobic parents, may feel a threat from other gay and lesbian individuals. Lashing out may ultimately be an indicator of the person's own internal conflict with sexual orientation.
This inner conflict can be seen in some high-profile cases in which anti-gay public figures are caught engaging in same-sex acts, the researchers say. For instance, evangelical preacher and anti-gay-marriage advocate Ted Haggard was caught in a gay sex scandal in 2006. And in 2010, prominent anti-gay activist and co-founder of conservative Family Research Council George Rekers was reportedly spotted in 2010 with a male escort rented from Rentboy.com. According to news reports, the escort confirmed Rekers is gay.
"We laugh at or make fun of such blatant hypocrisy, but in a real way, these people may often themselves be victims of repression and experience exaggerated feelings of threat," Ryan said. "Homophobia is not a laughing matter. It can sometimes have tragic consequences," as was the case in the 1998 murder of Matthew Shepard, a gay man.


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[PanRonnie]

Nothing wrong with gay men in fact i am going snowboarding this weekend with 2 gay guys
after 3 decades of dating women i am in the same place as Bill Bur
But i still have all my toys!!! :cheers:


https://youtu.be/kjLaJ5xYvhU

[Paul Vaillancourt]

Don't worry Chaz we can all just go to Wyoming to buy a good ol gas truck.... they want to ban the sale of electric cars starting in 2035.




Here's a few more facts commadore Z,

Spend a few minutes extra on the charger ... rates go UP UP UP

I usually put the little trigger lock on WFO .. click when full .. might squeeze in another dollar.

If 80% is supercharged, what's it called and how much longer does it take for a full tank ... err .. charged battery.

What do you do with yourself for a half hour while the gas guy is 35-40 miles farther down the highway .. no don't tell me, I fear I know the answer already.

Thats great milage .. but then air conditioning, radio, kids playing video games in the back seat, wife charging her phone ... make the inflated number go DOWN DOWN DOWN

Really .. another if my aunt was my uncle statement ... "batterys are getting better".
You might gotz money to throw away .. but a crystal ball you don't.
Sorry, but it's lying, BSing, or just wishful thinking ... until it happens.
Which one are you .. ?

They can offer them for sale all they want, don't mean I have to buy one. If we get the fourth term of Bubamba in two years .. then we might go full commie. But good news is MTG got appointed to the Homeland Security committee today .. having gas at the pumps is a matter of National Security.

So a Volkswagen Americanna starts at 92,400 to 206,800 average $149,600

A Played out S is 94,990 to 129,990 average 112,990

Did you really spend $ 262,090 on a couple of golf carts ???

As my friends in the Carolina's would say .. Ohh bless your heart .. :thumbsup:

But lookin on the bright side .. you could be a westie. Seem's they have went full tard along with having to stay home with dead batterys.

Ya just can't make up that kind of ignorance .. :p

CRUM .. are you his advisor .. by chance ???

https://i.imgur.com/zOCtvvrl.jpg

[Chaz]

Don't worry Chaz we can all just go to Wyoming to buy a good ol gas truck.... they want to ban the sale of electric cars starting in 2035.

Thanks for reminding me of that ... I saw it on the news the other night .. :thumbsup:
Sensible ideas from sensible people.

Ronnie .. :eek: try American woman .... first. :leaving:

CRUD .. I'm not going to swing at a pitch in the dirt.
My point was, and still is that you haven't learned a thing. You copy and paste pages and pages from god only knows where. Right thru, commercials, sign-up to site applications and of course malware.
Are you smart enough to go back and delete the post ..... NO
Clean the corruption out of your computer .... NO
What do you do ... post more links, this time to something that appears to be right up your ally. A left-wing view of homosexuals,. just pitiful :(

Greg, my drive is clean. However when I /QUOTED/ Paul V./ went to /ADVANCED/ I got the grey circle over the logo.
Looks like the CRAP is on your end .. :cool:

https://i.imgur.com/7nMaCc0l.jpg

[Brad Zastrow]

Chaz you are so misinformed. I like fast luxury cars not driving old pickups. My wife drives her Tesla 60 miles a day and our electric bill went up $60 a month. Do the math. The car also tells you how much it costs to charge a day. A whole $2 to drive 60 miles for a really, really fast large luxury car. I notice you resort to name calling and getting political when two strokes or EV's are brought up. Sorry the world is changing in ways you do not approve of.

[pcrussell50]

3375417 (tel:3375417)[/URL]]Chaz you are so misinformed. I like fast luxury cars not driving old pickups. My wife drives her Tesla 60 miles a day and our electric bill went up $60 a month. Do the math. The car also tells you how much it costs to charge a day. A whole $2 to drive 60 miles for a really, really fast large luxury car. I notice you resort to name calling and getting political when two strokes or EV's are brought up. Sorry the world is changing in ways you do not approve of.

Not fast. Quick… if dragging is your thing. I’ll tell you where you never see a Tesla or a other battery operated car… the autobahn in Germany, in the fast lane, hammer down, for long periods. I just got back from there. My fourth time in a year. Now, don’t get me wrong, Germany is FULL of Teslas. Possibly more so than here in SoCal. BUT… as with the battery operated catamaran that started this thread, they can’t hold high speeds for very long without devastating the range. So you never see them (or any battery cars, to be fair), eating with the big dogs, out in the middle of nowhere on autobahn doing 120+ for long long miles. Sustained high speed is a whole different thing from dragging.

Brad, you have talked about “the towing problem”. That’s the same problem as going fast for a long time, or planing a boat hull for a long time, or a flying airplane. And it’s not going to be fixed with lithium ion. We’re already riding the thin balance between the theoretical maximum capability of the chemistry, and scrimping on all the support structures to reduce weight and get more capacity: the casing, anode-cathode separation barriers, heating systems, cooling systems, safety monitoring systems … basically the stuff that tries to keep it from being a fire bomb. And we already know that even that line gets crossed from time to time. So don’t look for the solution to “the towing problem”, or put a down payment on a battery catamaran to replace your petro one, or buy a non-refundable ticket on a battery airplane flight from Chicago to Detroit, until something other than lithium ion comes along. Lithium ion, the best actually working transportation battery tech we’ve got, celebrates its it’s 32nd birthday this year, by the way.

One thing I’ve been waiting to see is if we’re going to get the 10,000 lb daily driver. Up until now, battery operated cars have been sports cars or other form factors built on a smallish sports car platform. Yet, what are the most popular vehicles in America? Full sized trucks and SUVs. Well it looks like they are finally coming. The NHTSA had to fill a gas Ford pickup with concrete blocks to get it’s weigh up to around the 10,000 lbs mark so it could see if it’s crash testing equipment would work at the kinds of weights coming our way with the large vehicles Americans like, but powered by lithium ion batteries.

===

Cuda mate… Instead of posting giant clickbait articles about fanciful new battery tech that you don’t understand, and that may be years or decades away, if ever, you should try to stick to posting about things you can actually buy. Or at least things you can actually order, (make sure they have solid refund policy in case they don’t deliver on their claims ;-) )

-Peter

[home made tunnel]

One thing everybody doesn't talk about.... Gasoline technology. We started with the internal combustion engine - internal pressures that were unfathomable 120 years ago! Then high compression racing engines all though carburetors. CARBURETORS!!! Then along came throttle port fuel injection. Then Standard fuel injection. Then Direct high-pressure fuel injection. The human race has basically perfected the internal combustion engine operating off fossil fuels.


Lithium Ion batteries have been around for 32 years.... HOWEVER, they're always improving. Example: I put milwaukee drill batteries in my kids powerwheels, and they go for weeks on end before needing a recharge. The batteries on your cordless tools are lightyears more advanced than 30 years ago. Who had a badass cordless impact driver circa 1992 ??? nobody.


In the next several years, we will have amazing battery / capacitor technology. Shoot, even weld machines have changed technologies. The money is being invested. Look at cell phone technology in just the past 10 years.


It's coming. Get on board with it. I'm excited for it.


I'm REALLY excited for these 1 or 2 passenger drone looking things - flying cars, but they're not cars or planes, they're just giant drones that now carry people. I WANT ONE!

[Chaz]

Well commadore, I noticed you cherry picked thru all the facts I presented to you, and responded to a couple. I take it i was correct on the majority since you didn't respond to those.

As Russel stated, trucks are the biggest sellers, so it looks like I'm in good company. :smiletest:

The woman across the street drives a Tesla to work everyday. Then quickly plugged back into the house. When they go to see relatives or summer vacation ... yep, they take his truck. Expensive round town car .. much like a golf cart.

The few times I rode in it .. he looked : out of the windshield 20% of the time, rear view mirror 10% of the time .. the other 70% was staring at the remaining battery life gauge ... such a relaxing way to travel ... :rolleyes:

If they only used $2.00 a day in electricity, Gabby Newbumb wouldn't try to stop people from charging their cars ... :rolleyes:

Name calling .. you don't really think my friends call me Chaz, do ya ... ;)

Changing world .. NO grasshopper, the world is not changing, or overheating.
Some peoples perception, woke idealism and struggle to control others is changing.
From what I've seen ... not really for the better, anywhere in the world.
Was a time when it was America first. Those who chose to follow, did ... now we are more like them instead of them wishing to be more like us.
Every day we are becoming more like a third world country with less and less freedoms. I think all this EV stuff is B.S. but the last thing I would want is for anyone to tell you ..... you can't have one.
Saying I can't have a two-stroke because gretta thornbush doesn't approve of them, is about as close to a dictatorship policy, as you can get.
Seig-Hiel M.F. :(

[Brad Zastrow]

I will let you have your opinion. I learned long ago not to argue with misinformed people. You once again resorted to name calling and bringing politics into a conversation.

[pcrussell50]

Lithium Ion batteries have been around for 32 years.... HOWEVER, they're always improving. Example: I put milwaukee drill batteries in my kids powerwheels, and they go for weeks on end before needing a recharge. The batteries on your cordless tools are lightyears more advanced than 30 years ago. Who had a badass cordless impact driver circa 1992 ??? nobody.

The trouble is, 32 years is an eternity in tech. How many consumer electronic devices are still using the same chip tech they used 32 years ago? Lithium ion is already at or near it's chemical/physical limit. You can't got much further with it before you start cutting (even deeper than we already are) into it's fire safety limits. Kid's toys are a whole different animal than real transportation. I have the best battery skateboard money can buy. Not a toy. Well over $1000+. And I've thrown all caution out the door, sold the heavy lithium ion pack, and gone with lithium polymer batteries (a definite no-no for cars, boats and airplanes, even power tools), which is lighter and more energy dense than lithium ion. And even still, I get four miles or so before I have to start paying attention to being able to make it home.



In the next several years, we will have amazing battery / capacitor technology. Shoot, even weld machines have changed technologies. The money is being invested. Look at cell phone technology in just the past 10 years.

They've been saying that, investing money, and had the finest minds on the planet, trying to improve battery tech, not for just 32 years but 132 years. Back in the dawn of personal automobiles, let's say 125 years ago, there were three competing technologies: steam, battery, and ICE. ICE was the new high tech kid on the block because battery and steam had already been around for ages. The finest minds in industry were trying to make the "battery Model T". But battery failed then, for the same reasons it is struggling today... Too heavy, too little range/endurance, too expensive. I think a lot of people, especially the johnny-come-latelies to battery tech, are falling into the trap of thinking it's something new and high tech. Batteries and battery motors existed for decades before ICE was invented. And the finest minds in science and industry have been working as hard as they can, to improve it. And they have improved, obviously. But it's a tough row to hoe. Petro just contains so much energy in such a lightweight little space, it's a very hard uphill climb to beat it. In fact, consumer electronics, who have spent a trillion dollars over the last hundred years or so trying to make ever smaller lighter batteries, for ever smaller lighter devices, has been looking into fuel cells, which is the use of hydro to convert to electricity. Unlike the much anticipated vaporware, capacitive batteries for you car, They even got as far as getting one to market (https://www.engadget.com/2013-11-12-upp-portable-hydrogen-fuel-cell.html). But that was 2016. And it has gone nowhere, though I think you can still buy them for $200 plus hydrogen packs.

Give this a read, if you're interested: (Again, note the date, 2016. And note where we are with it today. Think about this when you read fanciful articles about new battery tech and thinks like battery airplanes)Embedded fuel cells power smartphones for a week… and could run the world (https://techcrunch.com/2016/05/09/embedded-fuel-cells-power-wmartphones-for-a-week-and-could-run-the-world/)

Why do I bring up fuel cells in a battery conversation? Because batteries are still so bad, that the electric power market is desperate for some kind of improvement.




It's coming. Get on board with it. I'm excited for it.

Maybe. Probably. One day. But not with lithium ion. That has reached the end of the road. Already up against it's physical/chemical limits. All you can to is make it bigger, heavier (10,000 lb trucks and SUVs are just around the corner with lithium ion). Just don't get your hopes up for widsespread electric boat or air mobility for ordinary people, any time soon.



I'm REALLY excited for these 1 or 2 passenger drone looking things - flying cars, but they're not cars or planes, they're just giant drones that now carry people. I WANT ONE!

You can't buy one yet. Not one you can legally fly over occupied space. And it might be ten years before you can. And no offense, but unless you strike it seriously rich, you won't be able to afford one even if you sell your house and everything you own and your kids' college fund. And if they're lithium powered, you won't be going very far in one either. Certainly nowhere near the range of today's helicopters.

You were right about one thing, even if you didn't know it... New battery tech, something other than lithium is going to be needed, or none of this fanciful dreaming of an electric future will come to pass... In the meantime, we'll just keep slogging ahead with ever bigger, heavier, more expensive lithium cars, and petro for high power demand items like planing boats and airplanes.

-Peter

[home made tunnel]

Most of all you said, i agree with. We will have batteries... or i should just say "energy storing devices". It may not be lithium ion. Same as we no longer use leaded gasoline, and have moved onto ethanol alternatives. It will be something different than lead-acid batteries. They didn't have lithium polymer a while back either. The concept will stay the same, but how we handle it will change.

There's a lot of prospects for fusion energy popping up, in the last few weeks they had a breakthrough (scientists somewhere in a lab, i forget where i read it). But fusion energy could be one of the next big steps.

I'm still excited to see where it goes. Even the new merc electric 7 horse, or 3.5hp whatever it is, if i don' thave to crank on my kicker motor on my dinghy anymore, and just GO, i'd love an electric kicker motor. No, not a bass boat trolling motor haha, but a real nice electric outboard i can get up on plane with for my 10' RIB.

[pcrussell50]

3375534 (tel:3375534)[/URL]]Most of all you said, i agree with….

There's a lot of prospects for fusion energy popping up, in the last few weeks they had a breakthrough (scientists somewhere in a lab, i forget where i read it). But fusion energy could be one of the next big steps.

You are civil and open minded. Appreciated. And Agree on fusion. It’s a make or break if man is to live out his future as a technological society.

Man can go one of two ways:

A) back to a primitive hunter-gathering lifestyle with perhaps a billion people on the whole planet, living primarily in the tropics, where man originated, where you’re lucky to make it to 36.

OR

B) We will embrace the atom, and live a modern lifestyle and even be spacefarers one day. Along those lines if we are smart enough to educate people about the safety of nuke, we will still eventually run out of uranium. We have to figure out fusion or it’s back to option A.

===

You should notice that in the ad copy for the new battery Mercs… The pictures I’ve seen, it is not planing. You could put a 1200lb 100KWh Tesla battery in a big wide flat bottomed, displacement hull Jon boat and piddle around for several hours at five-eight miles per hour. The boat would have to be carefully designed to carry that much weight. And you couldn’t use a little skinny tire Jon boat trailer for it either. Or you could put a smaller battery in and just go for a couple of hours.

Question: Since I’m not shopping for that kind of boat, I don’t know… Is it available to buy yet? And is there a page with any specs such as cost and weight and weight of the battery? I’m off today and would read up on it.

-Peter

[CUDA]

Peter as you know battery technology is in the infantile stage of battery development, in ten years from now we will look back and laugh at todays batteries as primitive,

If your paying any attention, to what Musk plans on doing to get to Mars and back (crazy Idea with todays tech) he wants to refuel this massive rocket in space inorder to

complete the mission, from what I read new tech is on it's way that will change everything, at 68 I might not see it, but your children will.

20 years from now things will trully be the Jetson's, AI is going to eliminate much of humans work.

Then what? In a way I hope I don't live to see It.

[pcrussell50]

3375556 (tel:3375556)[/URL]]Peter as you know battery technology is in the infantile stage of battery development, in ten years from now we will look back and laugh at todays batteries as primitive.

32 years and the best battery technology we have, has hardly moved an inch. The only thing lithium ion has done has been to become in more common use. And the only thing you can do to increase range is build heavier battery packs. That does not solve it’s problems.

What we need is for one of those fanciful new technologies you keep paste-posting, to actually come true. But they’ve been trying, and the next best thing has been just around the corner, for the last 200 years and it just never quite works out. Maybe one day it will. But you can’t just live your life clinging to every little clickbait you read. It’s time to read these things and wait and see if they actually happen. Nothing in 32 years has kicked out lithium ion, even though all we’ve done with it is to become more comfortable running it on the ragged edge of being a fire bomb.

At 68 you’re still a spring chicken. ;-) Looking forward to you coming on here in ten years and proving me wrong.

-Peter

[CUDA]

(Just got done with radiation therapy for cancer, I feel like fried chicken, not spring, hoping that will change, feel 10 years older.)

There is so much money to be made, with so many working on the next battery design I have no doubt, It will be short term, $$$ to be made.

Elon has forced the acceleration of the evolution process, Toyota whom first started the hybrid car Idea has held back on the totally electric concept because they knew that

what we have today don't cut it, I agree with everyone what we have now is inadequate, but the big push to develop the next generation battery has not been going on

that long. and many totally new Ideas have emerged eliminating many of the exotic materials now used. But to go from the lab to your car is a long process.

Your still running crossflows OMG:D I thoght they went away mid 80's:cheers:

[mr fun]

water and electricity is not a good mix

[Chaz]

I will let you have your opinion. I learned long ago not to argue with misinformed people. You once again resorted to name calling and bringing politics into a conversation.

You'll let me ..

Thats funny, I certainly don't need your permission to have an open mind ... :nonod:

Argue ...

Who's arguing .. ??? I'm sorry if you can't have a discussion with-out getting your pronouns knocked out of adjustment .. ;)

Thats right, when you run out of the hype you've been fed, call the other guy
( Ohh you dirty little name caller) "Mr. uninformed" then take your ball and go home .. pppfffttttt Sorry your feeling got hurt by facts ... :p

Take your head out of the sand .... it is 100% political. If the dumbotards weren't giving away .. taxpayer money. Auto mfg's wouldn't give golf carts a second look . :rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/mbkRYZel.jpg

Man Oh man .. If you guys only knew how good batterys are gonna be .. LMAO .. better start checkin your auntie's for facial hair ... :cheers:

https://www.rustyapples.co.uk/thumbs/600x600/images/user/66-150317165336.jpg

I've waited over sixty years for a gee wiz by golly .. George Jetson flying car .. It will be here any day now ... MSDNC told me so ... :nonod: :nonod: :nonod:

https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path[1/8/3/9/8/18398410]&call=url[file:product.chain]

[CUDA]

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/glenn/2022/small-spacecraft-electric-propulsion-opens-new-deep-space-opportunities

This is what I was refering to, try NASA

Small Spacecraft Electric Propulsion Opens New Deep Space Opportunities



<section id="ember25" class="collapsible opened ember-view" style="box-sizing: border-box; max-height: none; overflow-y: hidden;">https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/first_light_ep-1041.jpg?itok=gbiBTzzW (https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/first_light_ep-1041.jpg)
An image of Northrop Grumman’s small electric propulsion thruster first light during testing at NASA Glenn Research Center’s Electric Power and Propulsion Laboratory.
Credits: Northrop Gruman



The path to the Moon, Mars, and beyond will require a fleet of spacecraft in many different shapes and sizes, including everything from massive rockets that produce millions of pounds of thrust to pioneering small electric propulsion thrusters that fit in the palm of your hand.
For decades, innovators at NASA’s Glenn Research Center have been developing large, high-power electric propulsion (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/glenn/2020/the-propulsion-we-re-supplying-it-s-electrifying) (EP) systems that harness the power of the Sun to energize inert gases and turn them into extremely efficient thrust. Higher fuel efficiency means less propellant is needed, lowering launch costs while allowing spacecraft designers to reduce overall spacecraft weight to carry more payload mass, like technology demonstrations or more powerful scientific instruments.
The agency’s primary EP efforts have centered on large exploration and science missions, like the 7-kilowatt (kW) NEXT-C (https://www1.grc.nasa.gov/space/sep/gridded-ion-thrusters-next-c/) gridded-ion system currently flying on the Double Asteroid Redirection Test (https://www.nasa.gov/planetarydefense/dart) mission and the 12-kW Advanced Electric Propulsion System (https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-works-to-improve-solar-electric-propulsion-for-deep-space-exploration) used on the Power and Propulsion Element for NASA’s lunar orbiting space station known as Gateway (https://www.nasa.gov/gateway).
However, over the last five years, the Small Spacecraft Electric Propulsion (SSEP) project at NASA Glenn has been advancing high-performance sub-kilowatt (<1-kW) Hall-effect thruster and power processing technologies to enable smaller spacecraft. By utilizing smaller craft – those that could fit inside the trunk of your car versus being the size of your car – the agency opens more opportunities to conduct ambitious deep space missions at a fraction of the cost.
In collaboration with U.S. industry, SSEP has developed a lightweight thruster capable of propelling a small spacecraft from Earth to the Moon, Mars, and beyond – a step up from most existing low-power electric propulsion systems produced commercially for low-Earth orbit operations.
“Scaling down the size and power of Hall-effect thruster technologies, while retaining exceptional propulsive performance, has been a challenge,” says Gabriel Benavides, the lead engineer with the SSEP project at NASA Glenn. “It’s like asking a toy-sized car to drive across country with the same range and functionality of a full-sized passenger vehicle.”
Glenn researchers have been able to miniaturize key technologies to create the new thrusters. For example, the SSEP propulsion systems use an optimized magnetic field topology and center-mounted cathode, which were originally developed for advanced medium and high-power applications. Such technologies are key to achieving the performance, very long life, and fuel efficiency required for planetary missions.
Mission developers envision deploying small spacecraft for everything from a cluster of small, orbiting lunar communication satellites to relay data from Moon rovers and astronauts back to Earth, to deep space science missions to Venus, Mars, asteroids, and even the outer planets.
“Dozens of small spacecraft can fit inside the payload fairing of a single large chemical rocket launched into space,” explains Benavides. “Once deployed, they can each be self-propelled to different destinations of interest.”
While NASA looks to SSEP to self-propel small spacecraft into deep space, these technologies could be used for commercial needs closer to Earth. Commercial space-related applications include adjusting spacecraft in orbit, spacecraft servicing, and missions beyond low-Earth orbit to geosynchronous orbit or even the Moon.
Under a research license (https://technology.nasa.gov/patent/LEW-TOPS-162) with Glenn, Northrop Grumman is using NASA’s design drawings, materials specifications, and test data to develop selected electric propulsion technologies for their customer satellite systems.
“Our partnership with NASA has been very successful in not only developing and testing this small electric propulsion technology, but in finding tangible applications for it,” said Mike Glogowski, Northrop Grumman Space Systems Fellow. “This new capability will enable extensive commercial near-Earth capabilities, including deployment and de-orbiting of small satellites in low-Earth orbit and station keeping and mission lifetime extension of satellites in geosynchronous orbit.”
The company is currently testing their own variant of the SSEP system in Glenn’s Electric Power and Propulsion Laboratory (https://www.nasa.gov/specials/epl360/) vacuum chambers over the next two years and hope to launch their first mission using this technology in 2024.
The SSEP project is jointly sponsored by Northrup Grumman, NASA's Space Operations Mission Directorate, Space Technology Mission Directorate, and the Science Mission Directorate.
Nancy Smith Kilkenny
NASA Glenn Research Center

Last Updated: Apr 25, 2022
Editor: Kelly Sands



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Tags: Space Tech (https://www.nasa.gov/topics/technology/index.html), Space Travel (https://www.nasa.gov/topics/technology/space-travel/index.html)

Charlie is 100% political.

[Chaz]

Well CRUD cake, your making progress. You're up to four words of your own.

Charlie is 100% political.

While not 100% true. However, what is true is that I can spot a lying commietard with ease. It's usually because their lips are moving ... ;)

[Chaz]

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[CUDA]

Is US coal consumption increasing?



Natural gas fuels 38% of U.S. electricity generation in 2022, up from 37% in 2021, but we forecast it to fall back to 36% in 2023. Coal-fired electricity generation falls from 23% of the U.S. total last year to 20% in 2022 and 19% in 2023.

I grew up in a house built in 1880's, my dad bought it after WW 2, and renovated it, He said it had a large cistern on the roof (before city water) and 6 coal fireplaces, only 3 were there after renovation, It was a three story monster, It also had a dumbwaiter, (small food elevator)
I remember the coal truck delivering coal to the house next door and he used coal to heat his house and his large greenhouse, times have changed.

[Chaz]

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[CUDA]

Don't look like my brothers new Lucid Air Grand Touring

800 HP you can order up to over 1,200 HP very expensive though, $250,000.

but 1/4 mile times under 9 sec.

https://youtu.be/IxMU_z_5PSI



Lucid Sapphire over 1,200 HP


https://youtu.be/vRuZ6ho0hJA

[Chaz]

Sorry CHUB, I don't open anything you post a link to .... :nonod:

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[noli]

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Tesla has the biggest network of chargers across the US, no meed to bring solar panels :)







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPpFiDoYwWA









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_g7-8c9H2w









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[CUDA]

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A lucky discovery could revolutionize the battery and change how we power our world.

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Every now and then, revolutionary technology seems to spontaneously appear out of thin air and change our world. Dynamite, penicillin, X-ray machines, and even microwaves are all examples of such revolutionary accidental discoveries.
Well, this year we may have had yet another. However, this time it is set not only to revolutionise the way we live, but potentially save our planet from looming climate change by unlocking an elusive technology: lithium-sulfur batteries.

Our battery tech of choice — lithium-ion — has some severe downsides.
For decades, we have been searching for the best technology to power our modern lifestyle and enable clean technology, like electric cars. Since the early ‘90s, the battery technology of choice has been lithium-ion (https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/microscopy/the-history-of-the-lithium-ion-battery/).

It powers everything from phones and Teslas to energy grid backup facilities and even satellites. But despite the fact they have brought us into the 21st century, they have some severe downsides (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01735-z).
First, the materials that are needed to build them, like cobalt (https://simpliphipower.com/company/news/blog/if-cobalt-is-so-bad-why-are-some-companies-still-using-it-in-batteries-part-one/), are typically very environmentally damaging to mine. They destroy vast ecosystems and even leach out toxic chemicals. (In practice, there is also a humanitarian question, as some of these mines’ working conditions are deadly and use (https://www.ft.com/content/c6909812-9ce4-11e9-9c06-a4640c9feebb) child labour.)
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Battery degradation is a serious worry, particularly for the EV world. Secondhand EVs can sometimes be useless (https://thedriven.io/2019/03/13/how-do-old-batteries-affect-sale-value-of-second-hand-ev/) if the battery is spent, which will cost a small fortune to replace (https://www.findmyelectric.com/blog/tesla-battery-replacement-cost-explained/). Overall, this is slowing down EV adoption and also means that electronic waste, which is already a considerable problem, will only worsen.
There is also a density problem. Lithium-ion packs are relatively energy-dense, but they are still quite heavy, large, and bulky. This limits electric cars’ range (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317255676_Influence_of_batteries_weight_on_electric_automobile_performance) because the batteries are so heavy, and it makes the batteries unfeasible for some applications, like commercial electric planes (https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2022/02/electric-airplanes-aviation-battery-research-technology/) and ships.
There is even a fire problem with lithium-ion batteries, as a damaged cell can spontaneously catch on fire and burn intensely. Just look at what happened with some of Samsung’s old phones (Note 7) (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38714461) and the Rimac EV that Richard Hammond crashed (https://www.news24.com/wheels/fuel_focus/richard-hammonds-crash-why-did-his-ev-catch-fire-20170614).

This is why scientists at Drexel were looking into a brand new type of battery, known as lithium-sulfur (https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-innovation/en/horizon-magazine/cheaper-lighter-and-more-energy-dense-promise-lithium-sulphur-batteries).
On the surface, lithium-sulfur seems to solve all of lithium-ion’s problems (https://www.faraday.ac.uk/lis-advantages/). It uses far less ecologically harmful materials, can be cheaper to produce, can be up to three times more energy-dense (meaning a lighter battery) and is far less likely to catch fire. All without compromising charge speeds.
So, what’s the catch? Why don’t we already have them?
Well, they have one huge problem (https://drexel.edu/news/archive/2018/october/lithium-sulfur-cathode). While a lithium-ion battery can be useable for around 2000 charge cycles (https://www.fluxpower.com/blog/lithium-ion-vs.-lead-acid-battery-life), lithium-sulfur is typically limited to around only half that. So, after a year or two of proper use, a lithium-sulfur battery is basically dead.

Lithium-sulfur batteries can be cheaper to produce and up to three times more energy-dense than lithium-ion batteries.

To solve this, the Drexel team was trying new approaches to lithium-sulfur, by changing compounds in the battery’s cathode.
Their goal was to slow down the chemical reaction that creates polysulfides (https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms8436) when the battery charges and discharges. These crystals effectively take sulfur out of the electrode and ultimately cause a massive loss of capacity. Slowing them down could make these very energy-dense batteries last longer.
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</figure>But what they found instead was something incredible: a chemical phase of sulfur that basically stops battery degradation (https://www.nature.com/articles/s42004-022-00626-2)! They were so shocked by this discovery that they had to check 100 times to ensure they weren’t misreading it.

This chemical phase is known as monoclinic gamma-phase sulfur (https://www.nature.com/articles/s42004-022-00626-2?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_campaign=CONR_PF018_ECOM_GL_PHSS_ALWYS_PRODUCT&utm_content=textlink&utm_term=PID100062364&CJEVENT=70ab9fddb82a11ec811f534d0a18050f) but had only ever been observed in the lab at high temperatures — upwards of 95°C (203°F). This is the first time it has been seen at room temperature.
In the battery, this phase completely stops the reaction that creates polysulfides. This was so effective that the scientists sent the battery through 4,000 charge cycles without a drop in capacity, meaning it lasts at least twice as long as lithium-ion.
It is also worth noting that their battery was three times as energy-dense as lithium-ion and could charge just as fast!

These batteries will weigh a third of the equivalent lithium-ion batteries and have twice their lifespan.
To say this is a remarkable discovery is a massive understatement. But this new phase of sulfur also has other benefits, like reducing battery expansion and increased safety margins. In other words, this battery has all of the hallmarks of the ultimate mass-market battery, and these scientists found it purely by accident.
As with most accidental discoveries, the scientists haven’t yet figured out what is actually happening. They still don’t know why this phase of sulfur is created or how to ensure it stays that way. So further research is needed to answer these questions in order to develop a reliable battery that can be used in billions of computers, electric cars, and the like.
But it will be worth the wait as these batteries will weigh a third of the equivalent lithium-ion batteries and have twice their lifespan!

Short-haul flights, cargo vessels, and passenger ferries will have a technology that will allow them to go fully electric.

That means much faster, more efficient EVs with ranges of thousands miles will be commercially viable at a similar cost to today’s EVs. What’s more, they would actually still be useful in 10 years time, dramatically reducing waste and increasing the rate of EV adoption.
Furthermore, short-haul flights (https://www.freethink.com/series/make-it-count/electric-planes), cargo vessels, and passenger ferries (https://www.freethink.com/environment/washington-ferries) will have a technology that will allow them to go fully electric. The weight-saving, long life, and competitive price will mean these sectors can finally achieve their low-carbon goals.
In short, lithium-sulfur batteries could allow a huge range of activities to go electric, making net-zero emissions far more feasible.

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Incredibly, it gets even better.
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</figure>Lithium, sulfur, and other materials that make this new battery are abundant all over the Earth (https://drexel.edu/news/archive/2022/february/lithium-sulfur-cathode-carbonate-electrolyte). This means we can drastically minimise mining’s ecological impact, as well as ensure a stronger supply chain.
But that isn’t the end of this discovery. The team at Drexel are already looking into using this breakthrough to make sodium-sulfur batteries. By removing the need for lithium (https://wellcomecollection.org/articles/YTdnPhIAACIAGuF3), they can make batteries even more eco-friendly and eliminate a massive supply chain bottleneck (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542435117300442), ensuring EV adoption can continue at the breakneck speeds carmakers are planning for.
This accidental discovery at Drexel is set to revolutionise the world’s power usage and help humanity transition toward a cleaner, carbon-neutral society. Let’s just hope the team at Drexel can get this technology out of the lab and into our hands soon.
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[mr fun]

i don't have the time or patience to read all that crap , remember " he who says the least wins

[noli]

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Mr Fun ,

This thread isn't meant to be read

if there's something bothering you and you want to get even with the world, this is where you put your complaints

The more politics the better !






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[CUDA]

Why bother, we live in a time where FACT is Irrelevant, sad, I'm out...https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1081447694/vector/primitive-man-thinking-confused-embarrassed-caveman-with-club-in-hand-has-a-question.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=q9haZMXhbzwfU7wy7qjGKfX2de3tdCvARNdtgI_Xpzo=

[Chaz]

Now you're waiting on a laboratory accident to ... develop a better battery .. :rolleyes:

noli .. you ain't buyin one of them hideous .. err .. hybr .. err .. interbred Corvette's either ... :nonod: ;)

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[pcrussell50]

i don't have the time or patience to read all that crap , remember " he who says the least wins

Notwithstanding posts that are just brainless cut-and pastes from fanciful clickbait links, and not actual rational analysis from an S&F posters, I respectfully disagree. People come to forums like this, seeking information from people who have it. For people to hold back when they know things (again not brainless cutting and pasting from biased links), that is a net loss for people seeking information, and reduces the quality of the forum.

-Peter

[mr fun]

mr noli , not sure where that comment is coming from

[CUDA]

[QUOTE=pcrussell50;3375562]32 years and the best battery technology we have, has hardly moved an inch. The only thing lithium ion has done has been to become in more common use. And the only thing you can do to increase range is build heavier battery packs. That does not solve it’s problems.

Your wrong on no improvements in 32 years, I see a increase of eight times between 2008 and 2020 ? please explain where you get your facts, these are real facts.


But you talk convincingly, quite the knowitALL.

are you the childern's author?

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Volumetric energy density refers to the amount of energy that can be contained within a given volume. Increasing the volumetric energy density of batteries allows electric vehicles (EVs) to travel further without increasing the size of the battery pack. Conversely, it can allow an EV to travel the same distance with a smaller battery pack, thus saving space, weight, and manufacturing costs. Given the enormous benefit of increasing the energy density of batteries for EVs, there has been heavy investment in battery development by the Department of Energy and private industry that has yielded impressive gains. In 2008, lithium-ion batteries had a volumetric energy density of 55 watt-hours per liter; by 2020, that had increased to 450 watt-hours per liter.




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[Chaz]

So in the morning the CRUB has had enough and taps out. Before the clock strikes midnight .. he makes a liar out of himself once again and posts in this thread .. :p

Instead of doing something useful and intelligent, like going back and deleting his circle-jerk post ... :nonod:

He holds true to his well earned name and position of "village idiot" and posts more copy and paste with multiple links buried within the text. Total disregard for your fellow S+F members .. :(
Might be one thing if it was official US government documentation.
(even then it would be from lost in space FJB and trans sec Peter Butt edge edge) :rolleyes:
But no, it's got a cartoon insignia, a line drawn thru the web addy, shaded text, and no proof of anything .. except that there are those out there gullible enough to believe it to be the gospel according to the energizer bunny.

CRAB ... your signature says it all, you've been lied to, and lie so much .. that you actually believe it yourself .. :cool:

What does G.M. think of gasoline vs. golf carts ....


GM expects to still be selling a lot of gas trucks and SUVs for years to come, likely in part because towing range in electric vehicles still sucks (https://jalopnik.com/towing-range-for-the-ford-f-150-lightning-sure-seems-li-1846936001).

https://jalopnik.com/gm-is-investing-almost-1-billion-in-new-v8-engines-1850013640 (https://jalopnik.com/gm-is-investing-almost-1-billion-in-new-v8-engines-1850013640)

[PanRonnie]

Btw it is minus 9 here :eek:
Celsius that is

[noli]

.

Mr Fun ,

This thread isn't meant to be read

if there's something bothering you and you want to get even with the world, this is where you put your complaints

The more politics the better !
.




mr noli , not sure where that comment is coming from




sorry just me venting ... carry on ..






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[XstreamVking]

Nicola Tesla said that point of use power was the ONLY viable power solution. Batteries are not gonna do it. Sorry just my 2 cts and the opinion of the father of elec. and the man the biggest selling ev is named after. So probably just the political and short sighted mumbling of a fool.

[PanRonnie]

There are still other options than just battery's!:thumbsup:
This would not require putting your expensively made vehicle in the scrap yard

[PanRonnie]

In the interest of clickbait


https://youtu.be/cp8MoFaaKy8

[Chaz]

Btw it is minus 9 here :eek:
Celsius that is

So Ronnie, what you're saying is that it's 15.8* outside ... ;)

I rekkon you could always use your battery powered heater to stay warm ... :nonod:

I liked how none of the "greenies" had a comment on the ratio of money General Motors is willing to spend on the next revolution of the small block Chevrolet vs golf carts ... :)
And part of the golf cart money ... is going towards gasoline vehicle production .. :thumbsup:

Chaz = thinking, the General ain't really buyin into the left-wing dream ... :D

[PanRonnie]

No battery's here! france is the country almost completly nuclear powered
Which they use to heat the wine :cool:
So staying warm with nuclear wine here ;)

[Brad Zastrow]

So Ronnie, what you're saying is that it's 15.8* outside ... ;)

I rekkon you could always use your battery powered heater to stay warm ... :nonod:

I liked how none of the "greenies" had a comment on the ratio of money General Motors is willing to spend on the next revolution of the small block Chevrolet vs golf carts ... :)
And part of the golf cart money ... is going towards gasoline vehicle production .. :thumbsup:

Chaz = thinking, the General ain't really buyin into the left-wing dream ... :D

Now for the rest of the story: Yes, General Motors is one of the few automakers spending money on new gasoline engines with a budget of $854 million. They are also budgeting $35 Billion by 2025 on EV technology. Just a small difference of about 35 times more.

[pcrussell50]

[QUOTE=pcrussell50;3375562]32 years and the best battery technology we have, has hardly moved an inch. The only thing lithium ion has done has been to become in more common use. And the only thing you can do to increase range is build heavier battery packs. That does not solve it’s problems.

Your wrong on no improvements in 32 years, I see a increase of eight times between 2008 and 2020 ? please explain where you get your facts, these are real facts.


But you talk convincingly, quite the knowitALL.

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Ah, Ok Cudes... Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. "The man" was running me hard this weekend, (emitting great clouds of CO2 ;-) ), AND my wife and little girls came out as well. Don't know how I pulled it off.

Anyway, your chart... some issues... Including wrongly throwing your lithium ion batteries under the bus by giving artificially low energy density figures for it in the early years. Did I just come out and defend lithium ion? You bet I did, when appropriate. Sit tight for bit though this isn't a beat-up session on you, I'll throw you a bone...

-First look at 2008... It says 55Wh/liter. That is only 2/3 of the energy density of lead acid. By 2008, lithium ion was 17 years old. There is pretty much no way that as recently as 2008, 17 years into the history of lithium ion, that lithium ion was still under performing lead acid. It's just too far fetched to believe. Lithium ion is better than that. (There, I said it ;-) )

-Also, why does the graph begin more than halfway through the history of lithium ion? Why cut off more than half of the history of lithium ion? Unless you are trying to shape a message.

-Also, the fact that they are using Wh/liter instead of using Wh/kilogram is a little fishy in and of itself. The BIG issue with lithium ion is weight, not volume. Although volume is an issue too, just not as big of one as weight.

Throwing you the first bone... You probably googled "energy density" and true enough in science and engineering, energy/volume is energy density. But since weight is our issue here, we want energy/mass, which in science and engineering, we call specific energy.

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Now the buildup to the second bone I'm going to throw you, or a tip of my hat to you, for calling me out...

So... the latest lithium ion specific energy is 270-290 Wh/kilogram. And here is where you are technically correct to call me out for saying there has been almost no improvement. Because there has been improvement, over 32 years. More than double. Almost triple, from somewhere around 100 Wh/kilogram. So why did I say there has hardly been any improvement at all? Well, because of both the timeline and the scale what we are trying to replace with batteries.

-Timeline: A 3x improvement (not even that, but close), over 32 years is horrifyingly little for a high tech endeavor. It's unbelievably painfully little considering the finest minds in science and industry have been working as hard as they can to improve it in laptops, tablets, cell phones, watches, and other consumer electronics.

-Scale against petro fuels: The latest lithium ion batteries are 270-290 Wh/kilogram. But gasoline is over 16,550 Wh/kg. More than 57 times greater. So an improvement in lithium ion of triple, from 100-300 (being generous), is miniscule. Hardly anything at all, if you are comparing to it's competition. We are zero percent closer to having lithium ion powered recreational boats that can Scream and Fly for more than a few minutes at a time.

Still anyway Cudes, I'll give you that over 32 years, lithium ion has improved.

It's just that for a tech industry, it's pitifully little. And it's improvement is almost invisible in comparison what you are trying to replace with it.

(BTW, almost all of the big improvements have come from improvements in the ancillary systems like charging, cell monitoring, heating and cooling of battery packs, etc... To hopefully keep the batteries from turning into a fire bomb. But even still, they are cutting it thin, as we see all over the place).

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Meant to say a thing about your cancer. Prayers from my family to yours. 68 is way too young. I lost my dad to cancer at 72, way before we were ready.

-Peter

[wettek]

In the interest of clickbait


https://youtu.be/cp8MoFaaKy8
Port engine is using a hydrogen fuel cell, starboard is a standard turboprop. So not full electric.

[pcrussell50]

Port engine is using a hydrogen fuel cell, starboard is a standard turboprop. So not full electric.

Also, the Do228, which has been in service since the early 1980's has a non-pressurized, box section fuselage. You can put seats in it, but even though it has proper gas turbines, capable of high altitude, you can't fly it very high because you'd suffocate your passengers in the thin air.

BUT it's boxy fuselage shape, and large, heavy lifting wing make it good for lifting large loads off of short runways (at least with the power available from the proper gas turbines). The tradeoff is that the big, high lift wing means that it's slow.

BUT, if you are going to play around with heavy electric propulsion experiments, you can fill the boxy space up with big heavy stuff, and the high lift wing can get you off the ground easier than a wing designed to go fast and high. It's probably an ideal testbed for testing EV power that will never be able to carry freight or passengers.

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Also, the Dornier 228 uses 776hp engines, or about 575KW. When I Google pictures of A 575KW-capable hydrogen fuel cell, they are HUGE. They might have stuffed one in there… one. Or else tbey are running a small one over clocked that can’t sustain it for long (like the Hellkat Catamaran), or they are running it at a lower power and using either asymmetric thrust or reduced thrust in the good side.

-Peter

[Chaz]

Now for the rest of the story: Yes, General Motors is one of the few automakers spending money on new gasoline engines with a budget of $854 million. They are also budgeting $35 Billion by 2025 on EV technology. Just a small difference of about 35 times more.

Bradley, ifin you had read the story in the link, you would have seen the EV money mentioned was for a plant where they built battery cooling lines. Not their complete golf cart budget. :rolleyes:
The General building the sixth gen small block only guarantees that gas engines will be around a lot longer than FJB will be in office. :cheers:
I can only hope they used part of the government hand out, to develop the new pee-wee. :D

it's funny you can spit out a zesty response in what you perceive as a gotcha moment. But turn into a cricket in the dozen or so direct questions i have asked to you in the past ... :p

It's a balmy 78* and mostly cloudy here today. Where you're at, I'm sure you have had to run the electric heater in you 60 mile a day trip. Just how much battery life do you lose by running the heater ???
My guess your answer will be .................. :leaving:


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I needed some JP2 for my honing tank. I went to our local airport and when the man got finished filling up a jet, he drove the truck over to where I was at ... and filled up both my five gallon cans. I paid him and was on my way. :smiletest:
Sure seems easier to just fill up the tank with gas, diesel, or jet fuel than waiting on a 30 billion dollar accident to happen, in order to run a heavy, overpriced, battery or a multi-plex hydrogen demodulator. Great Scott ... ;)

This looks too good to be true .. All you green-heads need to buy up as much stock as you can !

https://nikolamotor.com/

But then, maybe it's just a left wing dream ... :o

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Milton

I love the down hill .. no motor .. $34,000,000,000.00 .. run ... LMAO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBCxCcICgtU

How bout them ZAPGO batterys ... :D

I'll say it again ... PT Barnum was right ... :cheers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88fWUZhYb04

[pcrussell50]

That was a sad shame. A lot of people lost a lot of money being taken by him.

Unfortunately it’s a story as old as time… People who want for something to be so, badly enough, are susceptible to believing things they are told, when the teller sounds convincing. A shame, because a few well known facts, and some grade school math, is usually enough to tell you enough to clutch your wallet and your hopes, a little tighter.

-Peter

[Brad Zastrow]

It is too easy to fact check you. You pick and choose your information to suit whatever conspiracy theory you are interested in. The automakers are going EV on many cars as the public is tired of gas prices. The Tesla uses a heat A/C pump. So, the cold weather is not really an issue on battery life. Extreme cold can affect the battery range a small amount. But I do not live in the Antarctic. There is always someone who talks about things they know nothing about and reports it as fact. I own a Tesla and it is not an issue. It could be long time before EV's replace trucks that tow or boats that need a lot of power but for a daily driver car or truck they are going to be major part of the market in the next few years. Now to address your worry of why consumers are buying 4 stroke OB's it's because they want them, including me. It is not a government play to force 4 strokes down our throat. More power, better fuel economy and better reliability. No smelly smoke to deal with on the older two strokes. The O/B market has exploded because of the new engines.

[PanRonnie]

Lichtyear one a dutch startup from the guys who won the solar challenge is in chapter 7
Sono motors is basicly bankrupt
I would ha love for these compagny's to make it
But the sad fact is the electric model T ford still has to be invented
Like a skater with brandnew mercury 450R's there will always be people able to afford that just not in high enough numbers to make difference

[pcrussell50]

Getting back on to the topic of this thread title... Amazing, eh?

I'm having the devil of a time finding out more information (tech information that I can run some math numbers on), about the Hellkat battery catamaran. Both the original article posted by Noli and this one I found (https://robbreport.com/motors/marine/electric-catamaran-smashed-speed-record-1234745272/) say that it made it's 100+ mph run using a pair of 180hp motors. Now, I've never had a big fast cat. My biggest boat is 18 feet and goes about 65 with a 150hp motor, just me in it, and no bimini top. It goes about 55 with the wife and kids and all our gear and the bimini top up.

So...

-I know cats and tunnels are efficient, but Isn't 360 hp a little thin to push a 32 foot cat over 100mph?

-Someone here at S&F said that they were running the 180hp motors over-clocked to put out 360hp each for 720hp total, Which makes 100+ sound more believable. Is that something you heard through the grapevine, or something the rest of us can actually read? And can you share a link?

-Someone else here, (Chaz, I think) said that the boat was towed to the starting line, and still nosed over due to battery drain before the whole 3/4 mile run was complete. Is that true? And was that heard through the grapevine, or can the rest of us read it?*

I found no detail about the installed battery capacity, but if it was like say, the Tesla 100KWh pack, that could theoretically sustain 720hp for ten minutes, from 100% charge, to zero. I say "theoretically", because car battery packs never see a use case where they would go from 100% full, to 100% empty at full power the whole time. Those kinds of drain rates are a fire risk. Also, a 100KWh pack with all the fire safeties in place would weigh 1200 lbs, or about the weight of three or four 180hp electric motors. So maybe they used a smaller capacity battery? But smaller capacity batteries don't tolerate full power discharges for as long, before they overheat and catch fire. Basically, there is a lot that is not known or that I can't find, about the batteries they used. Does anybody have a link to any specific battery specs?

Also, on youtube, there is only one video, a promo from the people who made the boat. Doesn't that seem odd for such a monumental achievement? In fact, the whole things seems rather thinly covered for all the fuss that was made about it.

*In their promo video, it seems plausible that the boat actually did make the whole three quarter mile run without nosing over.

-Peter

[CUDA]

If you want truth not charlies FABLE
call Shaun Torrente the driver of that boat
239 703 9400

https://shauntorrenteracing.com/collections/all

[pcrussell50]

If you want truth not charlies FABLE
call Shaun Torrente the driver of that boat
239 703 9400

https://shauntorrenteracing.com/collections/all

Don't want to bug a businessman with a phone call asking him for random details about a thing he doesn't sell, and that his employer might consider proprietary, when he could be working or helping out customers. It would be rude to put him on the spot like that. So I went to his web site. And there is nothing in the way of answers to the questions I have asked. If he has information to share, and a story to tell, he should put it up on his web site.

Right now, it seems as if there is nothing out there in the way of tech specs, and that Vision and the other parties involved, want it that way. Given the mathematics and physics of what we are talking about here, and that they are trying/needing to gin up interest, that is not surprising. Still, I hold out hope.

-Peter

[pcrussell50]

Doing a little more digging on the Vision Marine web site, and using math on the specs they give:

Vision Marine themselves, is smart. The only boats they sell, are displacement hull boats. For $55,000 You can pile them with tons of battery weight, and putz around the harbor at 5mph for hours like that with your wife or girlfriend, eating cheese and drinking wine. https://visionmarinetechnologies.com/volt-en/

Their 180hp outboard "system" which includes the motor and two, 35KWh batteries (enough to go from 100% to zero in about half an hour if you are going full speed), is not available for sale to the public. Of course you don't have to use all 180hp. You can go half power for twice as long, about an hour before you are dead in the water. (Of course, you will have to use less than that if you have to idle back through the no wake zone and get yourself up onto the trailer with a few minutes to spare).
Here is the link to that page if anyone is interested. (https://visionmarinetechnologies.com/e-motion-180e/)

Again, they only sell the 180hp outboard as a system, to OEM boat makers. You and I can't get it. But it Looks like Four Winns has bitten, and says they will offer this drivetrain on their 22 foot H2 hull sometime this summer. They claim a top speed of 40mph. The petro version of this boat weighs 4100 lbs, can carry ten people, and 250hp. It will be interesting to see the weight, price, load carrying, specs for the 180hp battery version. Especially the price. Because Vision's 18 foot, 5mph displacement hull boat is $50-55K USD. But Four Winns does not have any specs up yet. Which seems odd if they are to begin selling them this summer. I have no facts to back it, but I have my doubts this will come off on schedule. Here (https://www.fourwinns.com/fourwinns-h2e) if anyone wants to put money down and get on the waiting list.

-Peter

[pcrussell50]

3375592 (tel:3375592)[/URL]]https://www.nasa.gov/feature/glenn/2022/small-spacecraft-electric-propulsion-opens-new-deep-space-opportunities

This is what I was refering to, try NASA

Small Spacecraft Electric Propulsion Opens New Deep Space Opportunities



<section id="ember25" class="collapsible opened ember-view" style="box-sizing: border-box; max-height: none; overflow-y: hidden;">https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/first_light_ep-1041.jpg?itok=gbiBTzzW (https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/first_light_ep-1041.jpg)
An image of Northrop Grumman’s small electric propulsion thruster first light during testing at NASA Glenn Research Center’s Electric Power and Propulsion Laboratory.
Credits: Northrop Gruman



The path to the Moon, Mars, and beyond will require a fleet of spacecraft in many different shapes and sizes, including everything from massive rockets that produce millions of pounds of thrust to pioneering small electric propulsion thrusters that fit in the palm of your hand.
For decades, innovators at NASA’s Glenn Research Center have been developing large, high-power electric propulsion (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/glenn/2020/the-propulsion-we-re-supplying-it-s-electrifying) (EP) systems that harness the power of the Sun to energize inert gases and turn them into extremely efficient thrust. Higher fuel efficiency means less propellant is needed, lowering launch costs while allowing spacecraft designers to reduce overall spacecraft weight to carry more payload mass, like technology demonstrations or more powerful scientific instruments.
The agency’s primary EP efforts have centered on large exploration and science missions, like the 7-kilowatt (kW) NEXT-C (https://www1.grc.nasa.gov/space/sep/gridded-ion-thrusters-next-c/) gridded-ion system currently flying on the Double Asteroid Redirection Test (https://www.nasa.gov/planetarydefense/dart) mission and the 12-kW Advanced Electric Propulsion System (https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-works-to-improve-solar-electric-propulsion-for-deep-space-exploration) used on the Power and Propulsion Element for NASA’s lunar orbiting space station known as Gateway (https://www.nasa.gov/gateway).
However, over the last five years, the Small Spacecraft Electric Propulsion (SSEP) project at NASA Glenn has been advancing high-performance sub-kilowatt (<1-kW) Hall-effect thruster and power processing technologies to enable smaller spacecraft. By utilizing smaller craft – those that could fit inside the trunk of your car versus being the size of your car – the agency opens more opportunities to conduct ambitious deep space missions at a fraction of the cost.
In collaboration with U.S. industry, SSEP has developed a lightweight thruster capable of propelling a small spacecraft from Earth to the Moon, Mars, and beyond – a step up from most existing low-power electric propulsion systems produced commercially for low-Earth orbit operations.
“Scaling down the size and power of Hall-effect thruster technologies, while retaining exceptional propulsive performance, has been a challenge,” says Gabriel Benavides, the lead engineer with the SSEP project at NASA Glenn. “It’s like asking a toy-sized car to drive across country with the same range and functionality of a full-sized passenger vehicle.”
Glenn researchers have been able to miniaturize key technologies to create the new thrusters. For example, the SSEP propulsion systems use an optimized magnetic field topology and center-mounted cathode, which were originally developed for advanced medium and high-power applications. Such technologies are key to achieving the performance, very long life, and fuel efficiency required for planetary missions.
Mission developers envision deploying small spacecraft for everything from a cluster of small, orbiting lunar communication satellites to relay data from Moon rovers and astronauts back to Earth, to deep space science missions to Venus, Mars, asteroids, and even the outer planets.
“Dozens of small spacecraft can fit inside the payload fairing of a single large chemical rocket launched into space,” explains Benavides. “Once deployed, they can each be self-propelled to different destinations of interest.”
While NASA looks to SSEP to self-propel small spacecraft into deep space, these technologies could be used for commercial needs closer to Earth. Commercial space-related applications include adjusting spacecraft in orbit, spacecraft servicing, and missions beyond low-Earth orbit to geosynchronous orbit or even the Moon.
Under a research license (https://technology.nasa.gov/patent/LEW-TOPS-162) with Glenn, Northrop Grumman is using NASA’s design drawings, materials specifications, and test data to develop selected electric propulsion technologies for their customer satellite systems.
“Our partnership with NASA has been very successful in not only developing and testing this small electric propulsion technology, but in finding tangible applications for it,” said Mike Glogowski, Northrop Grumman Space Systems Fellow. “This new capability will enable extensive commercial near-Earth capabilities, including deployment and de-orbiting of small satellites in low-Earth orbit and station keeping and mission lifetime extension of satellites in geosynchronous orbit.”
The company is currently testing their own variant of the SSEP system in Glenn’s Electric Power and Propulsion Laboratory (https://www.nasa.gov/specials/epl360/) vacuum chambers over the next two years and hope to launch their first mission using this technology in 2024.
The SSEP project is jointly sponsored by Northrup Grumman, NASA's Space Operations Mission Directorate, Space Technology Mission Directorate, and the Science Mission Directorate.
Nancy Smith Kilkenny
NASA Glenn Research Center

Last Updated: Apr 25, 2022
Editor: Kelly Sands



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Charlie is 100% political.


Cudes mate… I have to ask if you actually understand the cut-and-pastes you keep posting? That's an ion thruster. They deal in thrust levels at the thousandths to hundredths of an ounce. That means they have no use whatsoever anywhere where there is air or gravity. I'm not reading yet another article on ion thrusters, (I've read dozens like it and probably even that exact one), but That picture you posted is of an ion thruster (Hall Effect, I think). The thrust they make is on the order of fractions of an ounce. The 12.5KW AEP makes.... less than a quarter ounce of thrust. That is not a typo. And that 0.22 oz is actually a TON for an electric thruster. Most are hundredths of an ounce. Somewhere down the road, the AEP team says they are expecting to be able to up it to six ounces of thrust. Again, not a typo. And from what I understand of ion thrusters, that is a VERY ambitious goal. As with tit-for-tat replacement of petro (cost, weight, range), with lithium ion, I'll believe it when I see it. It takes too much energy to make more than a few thousandths of an ounce, so a quarter ounce is revolutionary. And probably not sustainable. But we'll see.

Ion thrusters with their extremely low thrust, will only work in space, where there is no drag, and over very very very long time spans, were even an ounce or two of thrust can build up a lot of speed... eventually... over many years of continuous operation.

Apologies if you already knew this, but ion thrusters are something that will have ZERO application to our recreation or transportation lives or any kind of propulsion in atmosphere and gravity.

-Peter

[Chaz]

Well comodeadore, I asked a question about how much extra power the AC/heater used. Most would answer 5% - 25% more an hour, but you say .. a little bit. Then say something about people talking about things they don't know about. He11 you own one and haven't a clue how much extra battery it takes ... so I'll take it that you were talking about yourself .. :D

I have no problem 4-strokes. I've owned at least one ... for the last 54 years. My problem is when "I'm told, I am not allowed to own a two stroke" See the difference, or have you been brainwashed into thinking this is no longer America ??

Smelly, smokey, icky-poo ... two strokes .. LMAO .. Biotch .. don't cut a corner off you man card ... cut that ****** in half .. :p

Two years ago, gas was cheap again. FJB declared war on fossil fuel .. that's why people are gettin shafted at the pump ... period !

I do have agree, people in big cities don't know how to drive .. it seems they would rather leave the house and park in the middle of streets and highways.
Before you send your kin folk down here, you should teach them that we only have one shade of green. When it does turn green that means it's time to go ..
So for those that can't drive, maybe a golf cart is the perfect thing for them. :rolleyes:

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50 ... once again CRUP is wrong, However you just about quoted Joe P's exact words who was there and witnessed the run. I trust he remembers every inch of that run .. :thumbsup:

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As far as "everybody want's four stroke outboards" I only saw two boats with dunce caps .. the rest had crew cuts .. ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWPT7zXtlzY

Gutfeld will be on in 15 minutes ... I gotta go ... :cheers: :leaving:

[HydroSkreamin]

Doing a little more digging on the Vision Marine web site, and using math on the specs they give:

Vision Marine themselves, is smart. The only boats they sell, are displacement hull boats. For $55,000 You can pile them with tons of battery weight, and putz around the harbor at 5mph for hours like that with your wife or girlfriend, eating cheese and drinking wine. https://visionmarinetechnologies.com/volt-en/

Their 180hp outboard "system" which includes the motor and two, 35KWh batteries (enough to go from 100% to zero in about half an hour if you are going full speed), is not available for sale to the public. Of course you don't have to use all 180hp.

Again, they only sell the 180hp outboard as a system, to OEM boat makers. You and I can't get it. But it Looks like Four Winns has bitten, and says they will offer this drivetrain on their 22 foot H2 hull sometime this summer. They claim a top speed of 40mph. The petro version of this boat weighs 4100 lbs, can carry ten people, and 250hp. It will be interesting to see the weight, price, load carrying, specs for the 180hp battery version. Especially the price. Because Vision's 18 foot, 5mph displacement hull boat is $50-55K USD. But Four Winns does not have any specs up yet. Which seems odd if they are to begin selling them this summer. I have no facts to back it, but I have my doubts this will come off on schedule. Here (https://www.fourwinns.com/fourwinns-h2e) if anyone wants to put money down and get on the waiting list.

-Peter

I don’t know if you’ve run across this but Shaun explains they’re 700 VDC per side and he starts the run at ~340 HP then backing down to about 300 HP.

Most of the content you’re interested in is 5:30-7:38.


https://youtu.be/wxcyNjrLyPk

[CUDA]

Shaun said the day after the 104 MPH run they ran 109, started at 97 % battery ended up 83 % and could have made another run easly, all on $5.00 of electric, normal shore

power for charging and this year plans on running faster than ANY outboard so that means 130 ish is their goal, COOL





https://youtu.be/_s_MdvHaPdQ (https://youtu.be/_s_MdvHaPdQ)

[XstreamVking]

More power to them..... Nice to see that some people have lot's of disposable income. Cause they sure are throwing it away.

[hellbents-10]

GM has seen the light and with their 1 billion to ICE development.

It is very cool and fun to watch but it has no practical use as they display. We have been on the LiPo deal for 30 years now and it appears solid state is not the game changer everyone promises it will be.

Some day energy storage will be there though and then it will become practical.

[jk67switzer]

Thank you Brad Zastrow

"It is too easy to fact check you. You pick and choose your information to suit whatever conspiracy theory you are interested in. The automakers are going EV on many cars as the public is tired of gas prices. The Tesla uses a heat A/C pump. So, the cold weather is not really an issue on battery life. Extreme cold can affect the battery range a small amount. But I do not live in the Antarctic. There is always someone who talks about things they know nothing about and reports it as fact. I own a Tesla and it is not an issue. It could be long time before EV's replace trucks that tow or boats that need a lot of power but for a daily driver car or truck they are going to be major part of the market in the next few years. Now to address your worry of why consumers are buying 4 stroke OB's it's because they want them, including me. It is not a government play to force 4 strokes down our throat. More power, better fuel economy and better reliability. No smelly smoke to deal with on the older two strokes. The O/B market has exploded because of the new engines."

[pcrussell50]

GM has seen the light and with their 1 billion to ICE development.

It is very cool and fun to watch but it has no practical use as they display. We have been on the LiPo deal for 30 years now and it appears solid state is not the game changer everyone promises it will be.

Some day energy storage will be there though and then it will become practical.

Thank you for contributing. It sounds like you do your diligence in keeping informed. A large thread needs some people who are grounded in reality.

GM’s investment: The 10,000lb SUV is almost upon us. Yay, lithium!!!

Solid state: (According to Wikipedia): If you think lithium ion is expensive try SSB: ($100,000 for 20Ah), $500,000 for a Tesla capacity battery… JUST the battery, not the rest of the car. And so fragile that the torque on the chassis from angling into your driveway would break it. It’s also old technology. Some of the first batteries of any kind were SSB’s. The first SSBs came around in the 1800’s. They never made it, for the same reasons they are struggling today. Cost and fragility.

Yes, Cudes posted a link to some car company in China that claimed back in Fall 2022 that they would be selling cars with SSBs by late 2022 early 2023. I feel like if that had happened and was successful, it would be worldwide headlines. Cudes? You posted the link? Any news? And why China? Why not in the West?

Lithium is running into the end of it’s road. Maybe the future is SSB? But it seems like a rough go for it like it has been for the past 200 years that SSB has existed.

-Peter

[CUDA]

Cudes mate… I have to ask if you actually understand the cut-and-pastes you keep posting? That's an ion thruster. They deal in thrust levels at the thousandths to hundredths of an ounce. That means they have no use whatsoever anywhere where there is air or gravity. I'm not reading yet another article on ion thrusters, (I've read dozens like it and probably even that exact one), but That picture you posted is of an ion thruster (Hall Effect, I think). The thrust they make is on the order of fractions of an ounce. The 12.5KW AEP makes.... less than a quarter ounce of thrust. That is not a typo. And that 0.22 oz is actually a TON for an electric thruster. Most are hundredths of an ounce. Somewhere down the road, the AEP team says they are expecting to be able to up it to six ounces of thrust. Again, not a typo. And from what I understand of ion thrusters, that is a VERY ambitious goal. As with tit-for-tat replacement of petro (cost, weight, range), with lithium ion, I'll believe it when I see it. It takes too much energy to make more than a few thousandths of an ounce, so a quarter ounce is revolutionary. And probably not sustainable. But we'll see.

Ion thrusters with their extremely low thrust, will only work in space, where there is no drag, and over very very very long time spans, were even an ounce or two of thrust can build up a lot of speed... eventually... over many years of continuous operation.

Apologies if you already knew this, but ion thrusters are something that will have ZERO application to our recreation or transportation lives or any kind of propulsion in atmosphere and gravity.

-Peter

Everything in that article was about SPACE exploration, I did not equate it to boating, this thread went sideways 3 months ago

You pick and choose, to fit your narrative, from what I read up 7KW which is over 9HP in space with no drag is special, powered by the sun, no clouds in space:rolleyes:

Sorry new tech is too slow for you but that's life, your crossflows are archaic but that's you and no one is knocking them, 1981 to 1985 I was a fan also, MVP racing

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-22789-7

Who said it has anything to do with life on earth? but you? Solar Power is the subject

They just hit an Asteroid to test an earth saving program to save all of us, they keep track of the big ones and are finally developing a way to save us in case one is headed

our way and they used these to make numerous corrections and made it happen, Asteroids move very fast up to 64,000 MPH, quite a feat, bah humbug.

[pcrussell50]

You pick and choose, to fit your narrative, from what I read up 7KW which is over 9HP in space with no drag is special, powered by the sun, no clouds in space.

Uh yes. This is what I said. :confused: But it's nothing new. Ion thrusters were conceived in the early 1900's, tested in the 1950's or sooner, and actually tested in space, 59 years ago in 1964.

You, as a known fanboi of batteries and futuristic things that you hope or dream or think are practically on our doorstep, post this picture of something that looks like a badass electric high thrust rocket or afterburner and people might be misled into thinking that, well, electric rockets of wide utility are practically on our doorstep. But yes, ion thrusters are a great way forward for unmanned deep space probes with missions that span decades.

And, uh by the way... I didn't pick and choose to talk about ion thrusters that produce fractions of an ounce of thrust, in an electric boat thread... You did. :confused:

-Peter

[CUDA]

If someone believed this had to do with boats, they must be incapable of simple reasoning, because these are the first words

The path to the Moon, Mars, and beyond will require a fleet of spacecraft in many different shapes and sizes, including everything from massive rockets that produce millions of pounds of thrust to pioneering small electric propulsion thrusters that fit in the palm of your hand.
For decades, innovators at NASA’s Glenn Research Center have been developing large, high-power electric propulsion (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/glenn/2020/the-propulsion-we-re-supplying-it-s-electrifying) (EP) systems that harness the power of the Sun to energize inert gases and turn them into extremely efficient thrust. Higher fuel efficiency means less propellant is needed, lowering launch costs while allowing spacecraft designers to reduce overall spacecraft weight to carry more payload mass, like technology demonstrations or more powerful scientific instruments.
The agency’s primary EP efforts have centered on large exploration and science missions, like the 7-kilowatt (kW) NEXT-C (https://www1.grc.nasa.gov/space/sep/gridded-ion-thrusters-next-c/) gridded-ion system currently flying on the Double Asteroid Redirection Test (https://www.nasa.gov/planetarydefense/dart) mission and the 12-kW Advanced Electric Propulsion System (https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-works-to-improve-solar-electric-propulsion-for-deep-space-exploration) used on the Power and Propulsion Element for NASA’s lunar orbiting space station known as Gateway (https://www.nasa.gov/gateway).

You talk like mister knowitall but don't read what your rereferring to ?
then call me out ?
Looks like everything you own is a clunker,
Maybe change your screen name to
CLUNKER old and run down
But Mr.KNOWITALL is more apt

[Chaz]

Yes, solar power is the answer ... :rolleyes:

Every home needs the whole roof covered in panels. :eek:

The mid-westerners that live in the eastern half of the country should plow under their corn .. and plant solar panel fields.
No corn means no cattle or hogs to pass flatulence. We will all become skinny vegans.
California should do the same with the Vinyards.
Idaho's potato crop should be solar panel farms as well.
And of course, we in Florida will do away with watermelons, avocados, snap beans, tomato's and those nasty oranges with pulp and ... like Oh my god ... seeds.
We would have so much solar power at our disposal .. we could all drive golf carts for free ... But of course, with all the suns rays being consumed by solar panels, instead of warming the earth, growing the forests (which BTW live on CO2) burning off harmful deposits in the air and water .... WE WOULD BE IN STORE FOR SOME REAL CLIMATE CHANGE .... :thumbsup:

[CUDA]

One of the big problems with solar is the storage for nightime use, Honeywell says they have solved the problem, once more It will take many years to bring to scale
https://www.cleanfuture.co.in/2022/03/05/honeywell-unveil-new-flow-battery/

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<a href="http://www.honeywell.com/us/en/press/2021/10/honeywell-introduces-new-flow-battery-technology-to-provide-safer-durable-solution-for-large-scale-renewable-energy-storage" target="_blank">Honeywell has introduced a new <a href="https://www.cleanfuture.co.in/?s=flow+battery" target="_blank">flow battery technology that works with renewable energy sources like wind and solar to address the need for long-term energy storage.
The innovative flow battery employs a non-flammable electrolyte that transfers chemical energy to electricity in order to store energy for later use while achieving utilities’ environmental, lifespan, and safety goals.
<a href="https://www.cleanfuture.co.in/?s=Honeywell" target="_blank">Honeywell’s innovative technology can store and discharge power for up to 12 hours, outlasting lithium-ion batteries, which can only discharge for 4 hours. The battery is made of recyclable materials and will not deteriorate over time. It preserves system performance, ensuring a dependable and cost-effective system for the next 20 years.

<a href="https://www.duke-energy.com/home" target="_blank">Duke Energy will put the flow battery technology to the test at its and Innovation Center in Mount Holly, North Carolina. This company is implementing an aggressive clean energy plan, with targets of reducing]carbon emissions half compared to 2005 by 2030 and reaching net-zero emissions by 2050.
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Reference- Honeywell website & Online Newsroom, Science Alert, Popular Mechanics, PV-Magazine






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[pcrussell50]

3376284 (tel:3376284)[/URL]]If someone believed this had to do with boats, they must be incapable of simple reasoning, because these are the first words

Cudes… Don’t take your eye off the ball. This thread is about electric boats. One in particular, (with many hidden secrets). It’s right there in the title. And the elephant in the room is the energy storage medium. Electric motors are simple, light efficient, and very well developed over their 200 year history. The problem isn’t with motors. It’s with batteries. Still if you want to talk about other things like ion thrusters, and not storage batteries for electric boats or similar transportation challenges, that’s fine. I love that stuff. Just don’t accuse me of being the one that is picking and choosing what we talk about.

Some problems are really tough… while batteries like electric motors are also 200 years old, electric motors are very well developed and fully up to whatever we need from them. It’s the batteries that are the stumbling block, always been, And look like they will be for quite some time, considering the best batteries we’ve got are still 57 times less than gasoline, by weight. That is a huge gap for an already mature, 32 year old technology to make up.

The Vision Hellkat guys talk of wanting to hit 140mph. It won’t be a problem of accessing horsepower. There are plenty of electric motors out there that can deliver the power they need. Adapting them to outboard will take some work, but it doesn’t require scientific breakthroughs like batteries do. The problem they face is batteries. They need one big enough to not catch fire at high discharge rates, but light enough not to cause problems for the boat. Believe it or not, I think it can be done. The math checks out. Roughly. But it will be a challenge. I suspect they will need a lot of hyper-expensive, custom equipment.

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3376253 (tel:3376253)[/U]]I don’t know if you’ve run across this but Shaun explains they’re 700 VDC per side and he starts the run at ~340 HP then backing down to about 300 HP.



Most of the content you’re interested in is 5:30-7:38.



https://youtu.be/wxcyNjrLyPk


Some info there, thanks. I wish they said why they throttled back. I’ve got to think it has to do with respecting an over-discharge rate. Discharge too fast, and boom, white hot-lithium fire.


They said they would like to reach an outboard world speed record this year (was it 140mph?) That should actually be doable, presuming they address the issues with high discharge rates. Heavier batteries, are one way to do it, but tben that calls for more power. But Nothing about that claim isn’t doable from the technical standpoint. They may be able to strike a balance where they pull it off, but the battery is too damaged to use again… Like Maverick in the second Top Gun, where he pulled off the profile, but totaled the jet (due to over stress), in the process.


But they also talked about (correct me if I’m wrong) reaching a BEV range record of 138 miles. That’s where they were a little slick and dodgy. This will not happen with their Hellkat, or any planing hull boat. Not with lithium ion in 2023. We can run through the math if anyone is interested. Just let me know. Now… Vision Marine does make and sell 5-7mph displacement hull boats. Pile them up with batteries, get a USCG experimental waiver on flotation safety rules. In that case, it might be possible. The fact that they didn’t make the distinction that it won’t be possible at planing speeds is what is dodgy and misleading. IMHO.


I must also add that they were slick and polished marketers. Their answers to questions about range were very slick, tech-free deflections. Like the one about how the Wright Brothers only flew for six seconds.



3376257 (tel:3376257)[/URL]]Shaun said the day after the 104 MPH run they ran 109, started at 97 % battery ended up 83 % and could have made another run easly, all on $5.00 of electric, normal shore


Only lost 14% charge in 3/4 of a mile? That sounds like a lot, and it is, if you want to spend the day on the lake. But it actually more or less pencils out mathematically, given the claimed power and 75Wh installed capacity, which is what Vision sells in it’s package on it’s web site.


See Cudes? I’m not what you think I am. I’m just a numbers guy. Numbers and physics don’t lie. (My degree is in Mechanical Engineering). This is why I keep asking for numbers. Numbers are things we can work with and use to separate the possible from the impossible, the believable from the not-so-believable.


Does that make sense?


It sounds like you might know personally some of the key players on the Hellkat team. If so, it would be a lot smoother if you were the one to ask him for key technical details, rather than if I call him up as a stranger, with my Australian accent and asked him for technical details that might be company secrets.


-Peter

[JPEROG]

Yes, solar power is the answer ... :rolleyes:

Every home needs the whole roof covered in panels. :eek:

The mid-westerners that live in the eastern half of the country should plow under their corn .. and plant solar panel fields.
No corn means no cattle or hogs to pass flatulence. We will all become skinny vegans.
California should do the same with the Vinyards.
Idaho's potato crop should be solar panel farms as well.
And of course, we in Florida will do away with watermelons, avocados, snap beans, tomato's and those nasty oranges with pulp and ... like Oh my god ... seeds.
We would have so much solar power at our disposal .. we could all drive golf carts for free ... But of course, with all the suns rays being consumed by solar panels, instead of warming the earth, growing the forests (which BTW live on CO2) burning off harmful deposits in the air and water .... WE WOULD BE IN STORE FOR SOME REAL CLIMATE CHANGE .... :thumbsup:


Let's not forget those wind turbines that are all over the mid-west. I can't believe that any of us even have a power bill with all of this government electricity being generated for "FREE". Has anyone been offered a "FREE" hook-up for their car, boat or motorcycle? The government is going to push all that are willing into one corner and then have total control with electric generation and sales. This whole trust your government and leaders sounds like a great plan, just ask an Indian.

Joe

[CUDA]

SCREW the power bill, not sure it's true but i've read where 7 KW or 7,000 watts is enough for a house

this unit 13,000 watt or 13kw for $20,000 so you can charge your car and boat:cheers:

My retirement home which is comming soon will have solar for sure.

https://shopsolarkits.com/products/complete-all-in-one-solar-kit-hbk-7-1?nbt=nb%3Aadwords%3Ag%3A19553770313%3A145526277016%3A644538745644&nb_adtype=pla&nb_kwd=&nb_ti=pla-1360019074719&nb_mi=127247424&nb_pc=online&nb_pi=shopify_US_6634950557836_39451994816652&nb_ppi=1360019074719&nb_placement=&nb_li_ms=&nb_lp_ms=&nb_fii=&nb_ap=&nb_mt=&gclid=CjwKCAiA5sieBhBnEiwAR9oh2glNurB4j1ofPogGtDEt6NSmKZZ6d7f8sAPD9dDkxH7BC8gC03C5rhoCR40QAvD_BwE

[David - WI]

Let's not forget those wind turbines that are all over the mid-west. I can't believe that any of us even have a power bill with all of this government electricity being generated for "FREE". Has anyone been offered a "FREE" hook-up for their car, boat or motorcycle? The government is going to push all that are willing into one corner and then have total control with electric generation and sales. This whole trust your government and leaders sounds like a great plan, just ask an Indian.

Joe

I can see dozens from my house and hundreds within a few miles of here... there are always 20% not turning, no matter how windy it is; so we're down under 80% of whatever the claimed output is right off the line. :eek:

[Chaz]

Let's not forget those wind turbines that are all over the mid-west. I can't believe that any of us even have a power bill with all of this government electricity being generated for "FREE". Has anyone been offered a "FREE" hook-up for their car, boat or motorcycle? The government is going to push all that are willing into one corner and then have total control with electric generation and sales. This whole trust your government and leaders sounds like a great plan, just ask an Indian.

Joe

I was going to cover that in the next chapter. Ancient Aliens , pellors, jets, anti-gravity and battery powered rock saws ... :D

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David reports,
I can see dozens from my house and hundreds within a few miles of here... there are always 20% not turning, no matter how windy it is; so we're down under 80% of whatever the claimed output is right off the line. :eek:

D,
I tried to warn them .. that they needed to drain the wan-ton soup out of the bearings and load em up with 30wt wally world oil. The nerd in the white lab coat fell over with a massive coronary attack .. just thinking about needing to use a petroleum product ... ;)

Nothing to be alarmed about ... that there is clean energy smoke you're look at .. :icon_bs:

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Skreemin,
Shaun is a paid employee. You don't think he is going to say anything that even resembles anything negative, do you .. ??? :nonod:
And if he really thought that electric was the way to go ... he would have put his MTI up for sale ... the day he got home .. ;)

Well I tell ya .. the hole crew come down wiff that Rona virus , but they worked hard on this here Rona/Viagra # 18 Chevrolet, cuz they knowed we was up aginst some ... stiff competition this weekend ... :rolleyes:
Please find me a new sponsor fer next year .... :o

Chaz = still wunderin, how much of that boat was paid for with gov. grants ... :cool:

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[Dave S]

50 pages..........747 posts........:cheers:......

[Chaz]

If it was just about a couple of guys who took a boat with a couple of 300x motors and replaced the powerheads with electric motors .. everyone would say, good job guys .. nice novelty ... and the thread would have died by the second page. ;)

Sadly it's way more than that. There is a whole group of people out there who have a warped sense of reality who have no idea what people who work pay check to pay check go thru on a daily basis. :o

They use terms like : ozone layer, global warming, climate change, and the worst one yet ... renewable energy. Not one of them say how that are going to get energy back .. that's already been used .. :rolleyes:

They are willing to crash our society over some utopian dream they have. So as long as they and their sheeple followers who put the cart in front of the horse and speak about "how great it's going to be" so we should "stop selling gas now" .. :eek:
Then there will always be levelheaded realist's around to try and bring them down off the ledge ... :thumbsup:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksIXqxpQNt0

[Davidlake]

https://youtu.be/F-yDKeya4SU

I couldn't wait on the sidelines any longer.

Green energy is a sham and always has been.

One more example of the many.

[Chaz]

Thanks for the explanation. By renewable, they mean that you can wait till the right time of year, till the land, plant your seed, fertilize it, water it, run off the people who want to steal "only a little", shoot the crows and wild boar that want to show up every day to eat it. Hope a storm doesn't wipe out your crop. Pick the corn, sell it for whatever they want to give the farmer for it, so they can turn it into moonshine, mix it with gasoline and sell that to a public that doesn't like the maintenace that comes along with it.

Sure seems a lot easier to just pump oil out of the ground ... :rolleyes:

[Chaz]

Ohh myyyy .....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11690327/California-fire-crews-use-SIX-THOUSAND-gallons-water-extinguish-burning-Tesla-Model-S.html

[Brad Zastrow]

You love to pick and choose your conspiracy theories.
Fact check: Electric automobiles catch fire less frequently than gasoline-powered cars, but the duration and intensity of the fires can make them considerably more difficult to put out due to the use of lithium-ion battery packs.

[Chaz]

Bradley, I don't work for the daily mail. So I didn't write the article. if you don't like what they wrote, I suggest that you contact them and whine in their ear. :rolleyes:

Even your over sensitive woke azz has to admit that 6000 gallons of water is quite a bit over the top to cool a battery fire enough to finally extinguish it .. ;)

In simple numbers .. johhny-come- lately golf carts are less than 1% of the cars on the road .. wouldn't it make sense that over the last 100 or so years that there have been more gas fires than battery fires ... :cool:

Chaz = thinkin, didn't i see you on the news, dancing in the street with lori lightfoot celebrating 2 out of 3 store front's in chitcargo .. empty. And car jackings up 165%
You should be proud .. :thumbsup:

[CUDA]

Daily Mail

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/