IBEX 2025 Electric

[pcrussell50]

Two things:

IBEX 2025 Electric (Cudes posted it as 2024 before he took it down. I'm sure by accident, so here you go Cudes, fixed now. Not sure why you took down your post. The video was a good primer on the state of things... after a little clarification).

This is the video about eight minutes: https://youtu.be/CQ1J3numR1k?si=3xVv62cCn1nmIf49

1) most of the video was centered around motor innovations, which are fine, but not impressive because electric motors are already well into the ninety percent efficiency range. I suppose the small tweaks to make them stand up to water and worse, salt water, are worthwhile things to get done... IF... a useful energy storage medium ever comes along. (some of the videos of BEV tow vehicles catching fire at salt water launch ramps are impressive, so making high current electrics hardened against water and corrosive water is definitely a worthwhile pursuit).

2) But... the last few minutes talked a little about the elephant that is still firmly in the room... but it was done in a very surfacey, marketing-misdirection'ish way. IOW, not much math. He said something to the effect that "this battery weighs about as much as gas tank full of fuel", or some misleading thing or another along those lines, drawing the listener into a sense of false equivalency. What he doesn't say, and giving him the benefit of the doubt because he probably doesn't know, is that that 400lbs of petrol has 51 times more energy (at least) than 400lbs of battery.

So, the elephant in the room here, has not changed.

It's remarkable how close marine propulsion batteries weigh per unit energy, so Tesla's mondo 100KWh battery... And not surprisingly (to me), how much it has NOT improved over the past four years or so that we have been going rounds on this topic. We can get into why this is so, if anyone is interested.

-Peter

...The internet is forever...

[pcrussell50]

So how many gal tank would you need to drive a full size lux car 1,200 miles ?

100 125 ? where you going to put It?

https://electrek.co/2025/06/20/byd-t...0-miles-range/

Cudes mate… Ya gotta dig deeper than just outright believing fan-sites. Although I will admit that at times, Electrek does flirt around the edges of reality. Seth (I’ve been reading Electrek since about the time they came out, in 2012), is a true believer but at times he can’t keep his emotions out of his reporting. The article you posted the author mostly repeating what he has been told by… The Chinese… Who have either lied to him, or are willing to build a million dollar battery (several probably), to try to eke out a legit 1000 mile test run before it fails, and not been up front about the extreme cost and waste it took to get there.

You would do well to learn and understand what the barriers are, to air/auto/marine applications for solid state batteries. I can help if you’re interested. But wrapping your head properly around the challenges, will help you read your fan and click-bait articles with more critical reasoning.

-Peter

[Chaz]

I bex a canoli' in 2025, they can't give one of those POS things away. Well maybe CRUD and whoever was running the FJB's autopen would take one, but ain't no one else foolish enough to waste their money on one.

Gas $2.85 in Stuart Florida

[NICE PAIR]

not afraid of losing a canoli at all!

[Chaz]

I stand corrected ... that Gabbin Newscum fella probably bought a few of them for his French Bistro gang ... to use them to go boating in the L.A. fire dept reservoir ..

Brother Steve .. I had canoli's for a week ...

[David - WI]

So how many gal tank would you need to drive a full size lux car 1,200 miles ?

100 125 ? where you going to put It?

https://electrek.co/2025/06/20/byd-t...0-miles-range/

It would take 34 gallons to drive my Toyota sedan 1200 miles; the tank holds 14 so I would need to put four 5 gallon cans in the trunk (no problem).

Do you even think before you post this stupid sh*t?

[Chaz]

It would take 34 gallons to drive my Toyota sedan 1200 miles; the tank holds 14 so I would need to put four 5 gallon cans in the trunk (no problem).

Or stop at a gas station, for a quick fill up .. as opposed to waiting hours on end, multiple times to charge a battery ...

Do you even think before you post this stupid sh*t?

NO , he lacks "thought process" ability ..

[RiverRat71]

Elon is working on it. I'm guessing we will have condos on Mars about the same time everyone is driving EV's on Earth. RR

[Chaz]

David, see how it works. You, myself or anyone else for that matter makes a down to earth, logical statement based on common sense and the 'village idiot" cannot comprehend what we are saying. His responses have kept him on ignore and in the 0 likes column for years ...

RR, You know the looney's hate Elon, so NO garbage can lid truck, quick charge battery or condo on Mars for the CRUD ...

[NICE PAIR]

https://electrek.co/2025/06/21/forte...l-or-charging/

Look this up! It'll prolly be a while before it means anything to you! "wherever the topography allows"

[Chaz]

Look this up! It'll prolly be a while before it means anything to you! "wherever the topography allows"

Oh No .. not another 150 years of you just wait and see, it's just around the corner..

[pcrussell50]

CHAZ your quick charging batteries are coming,


https://www.livescience.com/technolo...just-6-minutes


https://www.livescience.com/technolo...ass-production

1,350 hp Kitty https://www.czinger.com/model-21c-blackbird

Cudes mate... Do you even have a basic grasp of the challenges that solid state batteries face in making them big enough for transportation (air/auto/marine), durable and safe enough for transportation, to say nothing of the cost, which may be the biggest deal breaker of them all?

I'm hoping you have read enough to know these things. But it is not obvious at all in your posting content. Maybe share a quick summary in your own words, to show us that you understand the hurdles that transportation-grade solid state batteries face, instead of posting up clickbait articles with no commentary of your own.

-Peter

[Chaz]

Well CRAP , I'll bet he knows that this is his ACME DUD 2025 thread. Why don't you leave this one alone .. go show how little you know .. on your own thread a few rows down. You know, the one everyone ignored ..

[pcrussell50]

Go away jack A$$

You know NOTHING

go away little boy, your children need a father.

Shall I take that to mean that you don't know why there are no scalable solid state batteries today, despite being conceived by Faraday, nearly 200 years ago?

I could tell you, and you could double check me. Either way, you or anyone, should probably understand this stuff before you go shooting off your mouth.

-Peter

[fixer68]

BYD began testing production-ready solid-state battery cells using the Seal electric sedan as a demonstrator. The Chinese battery manufacturer and carmaker touted the batteries could add over 900 miles of range in just 12 minutes of charging, with a total range of almost 1,200 miles.
BYD Tests Solid-State Battery That Can Add 900 Miles of Range in 12 Minutes of Charging - autoevolution


Toyota has moved its focus to bringing solid-state batteries into mass production and ready for commercial use by 2027 or 2028.
Toyota’s first solid-state battery is expected to offer a 621-mile driving range with an 80 percent fast charging time of just around 10 minutes

Oil & Energy Online :: Toyota’s Breakthrough in Solid-State Batteries