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    They retain a fraction of the CO2...but a consistent fraction. The math is simple. This data wasn't recorded one time. Other scientists took independent data and got the same results many times over. If you want to debunk it, find better data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David - WI View Post
    That is not real, ice cores are not a valid way to measure gas concentrations... no one could look at the chart and believe it's constructed from real data. Ice cores only retain a fraction of the CO2 that was present at the time the ice was deposited.
    You must look at it as a sample size similar as they take from agriculture produce or anything else
    you take more than one sample and discard the highest and the lowest to home in on an average
    thats why you also don,t trust a single dyno test but make multiple to get a more riliable average

    even more fun, do you trust
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foraminifera

    There is a great video about it


    Granted it takes a big leap of faith that this actually works but if it correlates with sedimentary layers you could consider it better than anything else
    If you watch the entire video he zooms in from 500 miljion years to the last 100 years
    Is there an uptick in CO2 emmissions that would be Yes
    Is there an increase in global temperature that would be yes again
    and considering the planet according to these study's has been much hotter than now also a lot colder but live is still here i would argue a freezing planet is a much worse place to be than a hot planet
    You can grow food on a hot planet not on a freezing one
    would it be a good idea to atleast try to reduce the increase in emmision levels, i would argue yes
    but lets take care of not replacing one poision with another , battery's great but don't make it the holy grail
    Do you really need the latest toy, truck or go to the target to buy junk you don't need because you are bored?

    Ronald Reagan had an answer for this "Just Say No"

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    Ill believe that the "experts" really believe what they want YOU to believe when they start selling off all of thier beachfront properties for pennies on the dollar and parking their private jets.... Until then keep on thinking that if you just give the governemnt more money they will make the weather better... BULL****!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David - WI View Post
    They are pushing synthetic fuels for exotic "virtue-signal" supercars... so the ultra-rich can still feel good about getting 9 mpg.

    No one reading this website today will be alive when we run out of petroleum.
    F1 cars are going sythetic fuel 2025, comes with a big list of what they cant make it from.
    Should be a huge win for all of us

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    F1 cars are going sythetic fuel 2025, comes with a big list of what they cant make it from.
    Should be a huge win for all of us
    How, the plane uses more fuel in the first mile than the F1 car it's hauling uses all season... you guys crack me up.

    I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUJIMO View Post
    Wasnt all the co2 in the ground once in the air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David - WI View Post
    How, the plane uses more fuel in the first mile than the F1 car it's hauling uses all season... you guys crack me up.
    F1 is about pioneering the tech, did you think F1 will fix the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    F1 is about pioneering the tech, did you think F1 will fix the world?
    I know it won't fix the world, no matter what phony-ass green bull$hit they mandate.

    I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    F1 cars are going sythetic fuel 2025, comes with a big list of what they cant make it from.
    Should be a huge win for all of us
    Fuel is available now. $26 a gallon before taxes. Requires silly amount of electrical input. I suppose the FIA and ARAMCO will have a good spin about it in 2026.
    Last edited by BarryStrawn; 05-25-2024 at 02:52 AM.

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    The term itself, fossil fuels, which implies that they are derived from the carcasses of dinosaurs, is dead wrong, but most of the greenies, and many other well meaning but unwitting people, are unwilling to admit it. It has been proven over and over that carbon producing fuels like coal, gas, petroleum, etc. are not a result of dinosaurs' rotting carcasses. Why this myth persists, and this misnomer continues to perpetuate, is a mystery to me. It is simply a by product of ignorance. It apparently got started when Sinclair oil company decided to use the big green brontosaurus on their company logo.

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    No one mentioned dinosaurs?

    I've never known anyone who thought that.?

    Maybe a local thing ?

    Fossil fuel is a generic term for non-renewable energy sources such as coal, coal products, natural gas, derived gas, crude oil, petroleum products and non-renewable wastes. These fuels originate from plants and animals that existed in the geological past.
    We have invented the world; WE see

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    Micro-bacteria and forests, not animals.

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    I think most folks definition of fossil includes more than the large dinosaurs. But makes no difference, it's all stored carbon that we burn to fuel our way of life.

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    sourced by Reuters & AP

    How much (%) is carbon dioxide in the atmosphere?
    about 0.04%


    CO2 makes up only about 0.04% of the atmosphere, and water vapor can vary from 0 to 4%.

    China is the world's largest annual greenhouse gas emitter. In 2020, it emitted 12.3bn tonnes of CO2 equivalent (GtCO2e), amounting to 27% of global greenhouse gas emissions, according to the CAIT database maintained by the World Resources Institute (WRI

    China, the world's biggest emitter of carbon dioxide, produces 12.7 billion metric tons of emissions annually. That dwarfs U.S. emissions, currently about 5.9 billion tons annually.

    Key findings from the latest Inventory include: In 2022, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled 6,343 million metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalents, and 5,489 million metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalents after accounting for sequestration from the land sector

    The world in 2023 increased its annual emissions by 398 million metric tons, but it was in three places: China, India and the skies. China’s fossil fuel emissions went up 458 million metric tons from last year, India’s went up 233 million metric tons and aviation emissions increased 145 million metric tons.
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    The people leading the carbon war -

    https://www.tiktok.com/@elpodcastmed...44729783749931

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CstPJIuLeF8/

    Summary

    It’s just an excuse (lie) to deindustrialize/depopulate the west and send the small remaining regions of the worlds manufacturing to China & India.

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    We have invented the world; WE see

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