Ford is giving up

[David]

Sure but the Porsche isn't going to give you much change from $200K...

[BarryStrawn]

The PR from Porsche says $85,000 so $200,000 out the door may be close.

[Instigator]

Porsche will actually build the car and service it. They don't screw around.... 300+ mile range, 600 hp, 150 mph, crazy acceleration. 80% charge in 15 minutes is a game changer also. Looks like a car you would want....It is becoming a viable possibility that an electric car could actually be usable as a daily driver and on long trips too.

Let's see the electric bill for that 15 min charge 👍🏻

Like tankless water heater in the house we just bought.
Four 40 amp 220 volt services to power it!
Thats a 160 amps folks!
Takes several minutes to heat too.

Would have liked to see the meter when that damn thing was pulling 160 amps 😉

I installed a traditional heater.
FK that thing!

How many amps you think it takes to charge a full bank of batteries to 80% in 15 mins 😂

[XstreamVking]

800 amps..says porsche.....They call it a turbo charge. hehe. Like the new boats if you have to ask how much, you can't afford it.

[moatorbotin]

Remember too, Ford was the only mfg to not take fed buy outs!

Also appears Tesla is on the ropes.

Eight yrs of government subsidies to them and its buyers and ZERO profit.
EVER!

Anyone see the story of Elon Musk freaking out at their last board meeting
Guaranteed the board, profit by end of this yr and they aint even close.
Based the projections on their new small "affordable" car w/projected price in low $30's.
Truth is, theyre ramping up to only build luxury versions of them, which will be in the $50's

The company also has leakers alleging cars being shipped w/defective & damaged batteries etc.

In other words, their ship as a massive leak and is now listing.

Was a recent story in our local paper about an electric car owner dealing w/the reality of living w/one.
First truthful report Ive seen!

Ford actually did borrow bailout money.

[LakeFever]

Ford restructured two years before the collapse.

If everyone jumped into an EV tomorrow? The grid would fail. No one would go anywhere. There is a place for EV in the market but to think anytime soon they will displace ICE entirely is comical. So much hysteria lol. If the product is good and works well it will sell even if it runs on elderberries

[XstreamVking]

Ford never bailed out....They had a line of credit available that they never used.....

[LakeFever]

Ford made it happen on its own and restructured with conventional means a couple years prior to the collapse and did not need a bail out, nor was facing closure. 20+ billion restructuring plan and it worked.

[Instigator]

800 amps..says porsche.....They call it a turbo charge. hehe. Like the new boats if you have to ask how much, you can't afford it.

YIKES!

To put that in perspective, my first house had a 1000 amp service!
The fans think theyre going to plug their cars into the outlet in their garage!

The tree huggers think as long as it doesnt come from a gas station, they are going green and saving money and the planet.

I have a 48v golf cart and love it. It will pull a 23' I/O through wet grass.
Oh yeah, put $800 worth of batteries in it 3 yrs ago.

So that means, theyre at half life
So have I gotten $400 worth of service out of it compared to a gas cart??
NOT EVEN CLOSE!

[powerabout]

I wonder if used hi tech batteries will end up in a bunker like nuclear waste?

[LakeFever]

Aside from Nuclear waste, batteries are next in line for enviro toxicity. They are literally THE WORST

[XstreamVking]

IT's the old of rob peter to pay paul syndrome with most electric vehicles. My neighbor charges his Tesla with solar only. It is pure "free" energy. He can use the car to power his house! He only uses the car for short trips though. The thing is crazy fast. But running the air cond, and some "spirited" driving and it goes less than 100 miles on a charge.

[XstreamVking]

Aside from Nuclear waste, batteries are next in line for enviro toxicity. They are literally THE WORST

Tesla, and i'm sure most auto lithium batteries are closed loop recycled. Which means no waste is produced. (so they say)

[LakeFever]

Yes Im sure once the world gets running on battery power this will continue and there will be no waste or pollution at all....

Crack, first hits on me kid...

[NICE PAIR]

Yes Im sure once the world gets running on battery power this will continue and there will be no waste or pollution at all....

Crack, first hits on me kid...