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    This boat/motor combo can pull a 36 pitch prop.

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    So are they making heavier boats to handle the huge heavy motors or are they making huge heavy motors hoping someone can figure out how to build a boat to handle them.
    Lots of weight and Lots of money is what I see. This new technology and modern looks are great and all, I'm totally for it. Its just a shame that your gonna spend over 100k to keep up to a 1986-96 STV with a modified carbed 2.4 or 2.5.
    The modern car can now give some whoop ass on an old muscle car pretty easily these days. But the outboard boat hasn't quite gotten there yet. Luxury yes, all out No.
    They need to reinvent small motors with bigger torque, hp and gear ratios. The car guys did it. So it seems the boat guys should be able too.
    If I don't ask any questions, I'll never learn anything.

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    I agree with you Randy, There are some guys thinking this is the greatest motor ever and it no doubt a step in what MAY be the right direction. However like everyone is saying even with a 36” pitch prop at 5% slip it is only around 118mph. To achieve those slip numbers you will need some damn good props and a set up. There are not many 36” props out there for the high performance market.
    IMO these motors were released for the CC and bass boat markets. Not for the little world we live in. Question is will Mercury make the changes needed for us to achieve the results we need?
    Time will tell

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    Time will tell if the tuners can get the ECU to perform.
    If thy can how much can this big hog spin up????????????????
    For get about the TQ can it hold together at RPM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by patchesII View Post
    It has 40% more torque than a 300XS. I bet it would turn it. The gear ratios is the only place I think Mercury missed the boat on this project. I would think most all boats will turn at least a 28 and go up from there.
    40% more torque?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    40% more torque?
    Yeh, At 2000 RPM. That % will dwindle at the upper range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidlake View Post
    Yeh, At 2000 RPM. That % will dwindle at the upper range.
    is it a diesel?
    40% more than what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    is it a diesel?
    40% more than what?
    It's in the quote above. 40% more than a 300XS
    Erik Kiser

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    Quote Originally Posted by patchesII View Post
    It's in the quote above. 40% more than a 300XS
    at 2000rpm, find that hard to believe?

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    I was deep in the middle of the 2 stroke to 4 stroke change over in the late 1990's. It all started with a Yamaha 400 prototype that Doug Henry took to win the 1997 championship in Supercross with. By today's 4 stroke motocross bike standards it was a pig! Development made the 4 stroke not just dominate but the only way to compete and win. Weight has been drastically reduced and power increased by at least 20%. 2 strokes have always been low on torque in the lower range even with the advent of power valves which essentially moved the exhaust port up an down in the cylinder to change port timing for more torque down low. The torque curve on a 4 stroke is flat compared to the peak on a two stroke near the peak RPM. I look forward to see advancements in the 4 stroke outboard motors like were achieved with bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    at 2000rpm, find that hard to believe?
    Not hard to believe at all
    Erik Kiser

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillySteve View Post
    Oh hec yeah.....I jus wish they'd dump the hump on those cowls!!!
    It's an engineered aerodynamic hump that places down force on the rear of the boat therefore creating bow lift!!!
    Last edited by JUPITER PULSARE; 05-21-2018 at 02:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUPITER PULSARE View Post
    It's an engineered aerodynamic hump that place down force on the rear of the boat therefore creating bow lift!!!
    If you need more bow lift, just strap 1k lbs of 425 Yammy on the transom!
    Josh Peterson

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    Be looking for a 1.60:1 SM for the 300R at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patchesII View Post
    Not hard to believe at all
    The spool up at the hole shot in Greg's video says a lot. I hope they do some work on the v6 for us sub 20 guys.

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