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    Help to identify the cause of piston destruction

    I got hold of 1980 Johnson V4 140
    The PSI was down on pot 3 @ 70psi
    Once i had the head off i then seen the problem.
    Scored cylinder and piston destroyed

    What could have caused this ???
    The piston seems to have been roasted but how i can make sure this doesnt happen again ?Click image for larger version. 

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    The other 3 pots still have factory hone marks on it.
    All i was told was the motor had a electrical problem with no spark on one side.
    Last edited by spybot; 04-03-2018 at 03:18 PM. Reason: wrong pot number

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    I’m thinking their should be a retainer on the wrist pin. But theirs enough carbon and blow by it’s been sloppy for a while.
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    Heres the cylinder.

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    Not sure if the exhaust shows any clues

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    Looks lean.... dirty carb................. check the jet for that cylinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motv18 View Post
    I’m thinking their should be a retainer on the wrist pin. But theirs enough carbon and blow by it’s been sloppy for a while.
    Looks like the retainers are there.....
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    how do the water deflectors look? Take a pick of the water jackets around the cylinders
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    They look pretty shot

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    can we have a shot of the piston top, has it detonated the edges off the piston?
    then it go hot and did a uniform seize.
    lean, timing, fuel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    can we have a shot of the piston top, has it detonated the edges off the piston?
    then it go hot and did a uniform seize.
    lean, timing, fuel?
    I think thats what has happened
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    Regards the lean side how can i check this ??
    I will strip the carbs to night and check the #3 barrel in case there was anything in it.
    I cant check the timing till its rebuilt, since the deflectors seem in not to bad a sate but must have failed hence the state of the piston. where else what else can i check for cooling issues.
    Why only the #3 pot ???
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    check the impeller too. when water starts to boil, the bubbles start at the bottom................. I had a peice of impeller stuck in the block on mine years ago, burnt up a couple pistons before I found it.

    But yours looks more like it ran lean
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    I will check the full cooling system out.
    Would running lean only effect one pot ?

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    One little piece of crap blocking the high speed jet for one cylinder would...............
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    Got to the bottom of what had caused the piston damage.
    2 things
    1 The #3 main jet was clogged by a piece of grit/debris
    2 The water pump cup had been epoxied in with WAY too much epoxy this had clogged up the water pick up tube.
    You can see its almost 3/4 covered this would have lead to an over heat and the clogged jet to a lean situation.
    This motor was doomed from the start.
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    That's not epoxy, it's melted housing.

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