Class 7 OPA "60mph" rule?

[bayratpg]

then I got stuck sharing my bed with you some how???..your big ass left me like 12" all night.

OK..... whats up with that????[/QUOTE]

Figured I stuck it to him all day, why stop! LOL

[bayratpg]

Racing on a budget ... no points deducted from the man card ....

Thanks Chaz

[mercracer2.5]

Congrats Pete. Good job buddy.

[bayratpg]

Congrats Pete. Good job buddy.

Thanks John, you and Captain Blackout too.

[bayratpg]

Congrats man. Nice run! great job! at least I mad you find that trim switch... Hahah

then I got stuck sharing my bed with you some how???..your big ass left me like 12" all night.

I thought we agreed not to kiss and tell Steve! I bet Mongo would have kept his mouth shut! LOL

Look forward to seeing you both on and off the course, and I promise not to spoon you again

[mercracer2.5]

Thanks John, you and Captain Blackout too.

[wickedwitthestix]

Crickets. That's what I thought.....again no offence to anyone. I just expected someone to chime in. But since I'm not a known member of the good ole boys and don't have 2500 posts I'm not taken seriously on this bored. I guess I'm not worth a responce. This is exactly why the real setupman/ wheel/sticks men don't post on here nomore. All I ask is the hard questions weather inside or outside the box they deserve a responce. I'm an educated boater with years and years if not decades in our sport and the points I bring up are legit and deserve a responce why not like in svl do they not use one power plant and let everybody rip it. A 200 ho would b perfect. Would put these most of these boats somewhere in the 60s. Not fast ehnough to hurt yaself. And not much faster as it is now. And then every week best team wins like it is in superstock ,svl and even superboat. That's racing. If those were the rules sign me up watching the lake race this past weekend was a joke. Not taking anything from bay rat because if those were the rules in that field most likely he still wins. But I believe there would be at least 3-5 more entries and that who knows what would happen. Someone out there has to agree with me they just don't have the balls to say it.

[Papp]

Passing someone doesn't mean you broke out. not sure where u got that one. its way harder to race inside the brake out yes... 10 times harder then if there wasn't one.... so your saying if it was easier you would race?

[wickedwitthestix]

No I'm saying if it was faster I would race. So yours saying if I'm say 200 meters ahead of u in a race like yest and I stay at 59 n change mph for the rest of the race you can pass me without breaking out? That's upserd to think that????vhow would you pass me without breaking out? And a gain I'm not trying to stir **** I'm just asking how is that possible. If I jump out to a early lead and than stay right at the 60 mph break out how can u go by me without breaking out???? To me racing is to see who's vehicle is fastest. Not to see who's boat can't stay the closest to 60 without going over. That seems to me like a speed trap on a highway lol. Again not saying it's easy not to break out over 60. Just saying that's not racing by deffiniton. Esiecially on a corse like lake of the ozarks where those boats set up right with the 300 hp max are capable of speeds close to 90 if not better. Ocean races quite different story but even in point pleasent I woulda been able to keep one of those boats well over 60 prob in the 70s. And that's when set up comes in. Yes it's a give n take. But the ozarks race the boats woulda been touching 80+. N the ocean race 65-70 pending on setback prop and whatnot. All I'm saying is let Em rip. If they don't it's not "racing"

[Chaz]

Stick ,
I think you got crickets for a few reasons .
#1 , the guys who were actually there wern't done funnin and teasin yet .
#2 , do you really need someone to pick apart your "ideas" for you ? (most has been covered , but you'll have to read)
#3 , I've raced or been part of racing with various teams for over 40 years , what I've noticed is that racers race and those that don't really want to , always find someone else to point a finger at as the reason they don't ...

[wickedwitthestix]

Listen I was not picking apart any particular racer. I was picking apart the system. I did not mean any disrespect by it at all twowds anyone that actually does it. I respect them all a lot. I just think that racing in its purest form is not yea go ahead race but u can't go faster than so and so. Alotvof people that I hold in quite high reguard hold you in quite hard reguard. So it was by no means a shot at you. And I'm sure if u knew my pettagre you would agree with me. I was just simply stating that it would be a lot more fun with no limit. And if the governing body was that worried bout safty like I said just lower the max hp n let them have at it .... Does any class 7 racer disagree that if you all ran the exact same motor again let's say a etec 200 ho and not put a speed limit on the races Not only would it be a lot more fun. It would be a lot more competitive and would bring a lot more talented guys into to the class. And again no disrespect to the current class 7 field but all the best wheelmen that run sob's wouldn't b caught dead racing in class 7 with the rules as they sit. That's all I was saying. That's the hard truth. Ivsatcback for along time and listened to things like people can't break out in places like point plesant and ac. And thats strait horse s***. I'm not just some computor racer. I've piloted boats 90% of the people on here could only dream of but that's not the point I'm not hear to toot my own horn. I'm just stating it would b a lot more fun lowering the hp n letting them go. That racing. Not ok u guys can go race but no one is aloud over 60 mph. To me and a lot of other people it sounds boring. I'm deff not the only person that thinks this. I'm sorry if u disagree but anyone I speak to behind close doors say the same thst i do. And I apologize in advance to anyone that is offended by this opinion.

[wickedwitthestix]

I also find it quite insulting fotyou to call me a wannabe racer. When you have no idea who I am and what my pettagre is. I assure you if and when you find out who I am maybe my opinion would hold a bit more weight in your and others eyes. But I'm not one to jump on other coat tails to get reconition on this or any other site. For the few that know who I am know I'm in some position to be able to criticize things I'm not in agreeance with. But I'm hear to make my own name in the sport. And I assure you I will. On my own merit and in my own time. All I ask is that since I'm not one of the good ole boys for you to give me a shot on me. Not where I come from

[tux974]

Stix, I will take a stab at it!
What I think that was meant about reading (search) the info you are posting about has been discussed, presented, proposed etc numerous times to the OPA and after a few meeting the decision by many of the racers themself has been to keep the class the way it was started and designed.
Peter (BayRat) tried very hard end of last season to present (all run the same motor and HP plus make boats weigh the same rule) to the OPA this type of argument to only be shot down.
I think this would have made the setup and driving skills the key factor to produce a win! Not to mention a bit more affordable to the new guy considering entering the class.
Let me also say, stating "good old boy thing" is not helping your respect.
My suggestion is to say my name is ---------- for those who may not know you, I have been around this sport for many years present your thoughts and feelings on the class. Do not take things or the lack of response personally...JMPO!

[olboatman]

When I read the basic rules to this class of racing (on this thread) I compared this type of racing to bracket drag racing whether autos or boats. I did some bracket drag racing with a Mustang back in the day and it was NOT as easy as one may think.... and that was without the constant change that
racing on water has. After running offshore for many years ( in a 200 hp 22ft CC) to dive or fish , I have a LOT of respect for these boys out there taking the poundin and stayin upright! JMO Gary

[wickedwitthestix]

I'm just tired of people saying the way it is is better. Any real competitor knows it's complete bs. It's like telling little leaguers don't worry if u win or lose as long as you had fun crap lol. And I know bay rat tried and I comended him for it. It's called being a competitor. I also comend you for agreeing to your own extent. And at first I agreed with the 60 mph rule till I watched the lake race. It reminded me of a 12 and under go cart race where everyone gets a trophy. The point of a race is to go fast. Not to make sure you go slow. It's the exact opposite of a race. I just figured if ehnough people agreed with me maybe it would start to open the powers at be's eyes. But ofcorse not. And that why people on this site that are opinionated are vilified for thinking outside the box.