Fastest SOB hull???

[JamesGang]

Ok Greg you never got back to me so I got measurements from a few areas. Up near the dash where the helm is not farther forward where gauges are. Floor to Gunnel is 22". Floor to highest point of cockpit not counting windshield 27". Back corner of cockpit area where rear seat rests. Floor to gunnel 20". Floor to top of cockpit area 23".

[JamesGang]

And these #s aren't perfect. I eyeballed it. Thought that is close enough were not building anything here!

[Superbender]

So here is the problem as I see it
Unless the driver owns the boat right and could be legitimately challanged this list is as usfull as
Pizza with no sauce or cheese.
There have been faster boats then Goneby(no disrespect to the drivers)james cole.doc nelson ghost then you dont even putpeople who are going fast I just dont get it

[Superbender]

So here is the problem as I see it
Unless the driver owns the boat right and could be legitimately challanged this list is as usfull as
Pizza with no sauce or cheese.
There have been faster boats then Goneby(no disrespect to the drivers)james cole.doc nelson ghost then you dont even putpeople who are going fast I just dont get it

[THE HOSER]

Don't get upset or anything But
#2 1985 Velocity 22 Stepp “Old Style Deck” <o<o<o- Hull Weight Unknown-Deadrise=22 Degrees + 12" pad -- <o<o<oConfirmed 97.1MPH – 4" Setback-Stock Merc 300X(325HP) - (Driver B kNo023)
That's not a stock hull is it ?
What's the weight ?
And did the boat run 97 a few times or was it a freak with the gps ?
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[wickedwitthestix]

I was thinking the same. If he has recorded 94,95 n got 97 maybe it's right but if the previous top speed was 90 or 92 it's hard to believe

[Greg G]

Greg g what boat are you currently runing and what power .

Ultra Custom Boats 23XS with a BRP 250. Built by John West. Slower than your boat, and slower than everything being discussed on this thread but it's fun and different. It's the only one with an O/B in the country. I've had two Superboat 21's and a 24 in the past. What was strange with all those Superboats is no matter which way I wanted to go with them out on the Sound, they would always miss there course by several degrees and start toward Long Island.
Odd behavior.

[Greg G]

Greg g what is the reason you need to know gunnel height how is it playing a factor .

Because I was curious how it compared to my boat and how it compares to your 22 Progression's 24".

[Greg G]

Ok Greg you never got back to me so I got measurements from a few areas. Up near the dash where the helm is not farther forward where gauges are. Floor to Gunnel is 22". Floor to highest point of cockpit not counting windshield 27". Back corner of cockpit area where rear seat rests. Floor to gunnel 20". Floor to top of cockpit area 23".

And these #s aren't perfect. I eyeballed it. Thought that is close enough were not building anything here!

Thanks for the info. I am building something so funny you mention that. I'll be sure not to ask any boating questions on a boating forum thread though in the future!

[Greg G]

Don't get upset or anything but ...........

#2 1985 Velocity 22 Stepp “Old Style Deck” <o<o<o- Hull Weight Unknown-Deadrise=22 Degrees + 12" pad -- <o<o<oConfirmed 97.1MPH – 4" Setback-Stock Merc 300X(325HP) - (Driver B kNo023)
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That's not a stock hull is it ? </o</o</o

Are you saying that the other guy with a Superboat 21 can't play in the sandbox of older hulls then because his keel is missing a chunk of fiberglass?
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[Greg G]

Greg stock boat stock power what prop is on the tuff for it to run 106 at 6400 limiter?

I have it somewhere but you may want to ask the owner of the Tuff 21 in Canada directly if you are skeptical that he did 106mph with his boat gm250.

[Greg G]

love reading these updates. #4 I/O Boat though? Shouldnt be on SOB list should it?

I think you mean the Sutphen? They come in both I/O and O/B versions. Same hull all around except for a small "mini splash well" to allow the wacker to tilt up.

[Greg G]

I asked because I was lost if you were to compare I would asked true length , weight, pad , dead rise, cockpit position and step or notch ect . Couldn't see how gunnel played a factor now I know

Gotcha, no problema.

Btw, is your P22 gunnel at 24" high right at the drivers seat? Would you mind confirming that when you get a chance. It goes into my box of useless boating facts to be used when it's snowing in December.

[Greg G]

At the seat 22 from top of deck to outside chine .24 is cockpit height

Interesting. Cliff Clavin thanks you.

Freeboard is 22" from the hull sides chine to the top of the deck on the Progression 22. January will be a busy month for my colored fonts. Another 22 footer as a comparison below.

[Greg G]

Greg, I've owned 2 Pulsare 2100's, a 22' Velocity, a 230 Velocity I/O and I've driven the Superboat/Challenger/Rally Sport numerous times. I don't have measurements from the floor to the top of the gunnels on the boats but I can tell you that the Pulsare is ligher and faster than the Velocity power for power but the Pulsare is harder to handle due to the narrow pad vs Velocity's wider pad. The Pulsare will give you a softer ride than the Velocity but on the Velocity it's very easy to feel the boat climb up on the pad and get loose. The Superboat/Challenger hull has alot of complex curves in the bottom..fun to drive with a good solid feel to the boat but I don't think they're as fast as the Checkmate power for power. The Pulsare dry hull weight is 1375 lbs. Compared to all the Hydrostreams, Action, Allison, etc. V-bottom boats all the boats mentioned (Pulsare, Velocity, Superboat) have higher freeboards, deeper V's, more weight and will give a much better ride when the water gets snotty...they may not be as fast power for power, but at least they'll stay together!

Thanks, lot of good information in there, appreciate it.

One of the single biggest things I like about the Pulsare 2100 is the fact that it has a useful "playpen area" underneath on the long deck model. All the other builders squander that space. I also don't buy the "it would add too much weight" counterpoint. With today's materials and lightweight carpet it's a great way to create storage space in boats that don't really have any so you can also throw the family in when you want to and all there crap. If that costs me 75lbs and 1mph I'm in all day long.