Fastest SOB hull???

[JamesGang]

[QUOTE=Greg G;2662471].
Yep.......updating "The List" with current GPS data on the Sutphen 21 SSX. I'm now wondering if my 88mph assumption with a 300XS and Sporty is possible when the Sutphen 21 is
laying down 73.4mph with the Merc 225hp fishin motor in the real world. Can this Sutphen hull pick up 15 mph with the 3.2 stroker motor or will the left coast Nordic SR-21 move up to #4.




Fastest SOB Hulls Available For Purchase New In 2014....All Boats Powered with a stock Mercury 300XS (306HP and 6400RPM Limiter)

#1 Tuff 21 kevlar hull-890lbs – 20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 7 1/2" pad (Confirmed 102.5MPH Driver Blake Sewell) (2002 Tuff 21 ran 102MPH w/300X)
#2 Bernico F2 21 standard hull-727lbs–21’4” Long, 6’3” Beam - 24 degree deadrise + 14” pad (Confirmed 98.1MPH Driver VanSteelant) (550lb s3000 385HP ran 103.1MPH)
#3 Progression 22 standard hull-948lbs – 22’1”Long, 7’8” Beam - 24 degree variable deadrise + 7" pad (Confirmed 94MPH Driver goneby)
#4 Sutphen 21 standard hull-1325lbs–20’9” Long, 7’2” Beam - 20 degree variable deadrise + 3" pad (88MPH Driver Unknown) (525I/O with heavy layup ran GPS 93.4MPH)
#5 Nordic Crossfire-21 or SR-21 standard hull-1475lbs– 21’ Long, 7’1” Beam - 18 degree deadrise + 9" pad (Confirmed 86MPH Driver wildone)
#6 Velocity 220 standard hull-1895lbs – 21’6” Long, 7’11” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 12" pad (Confirmed 84.8MPH Driver aaronmt73)


And the fastest of the no longer produced hulls....with power noted

#1 1986 Superboat 21 Classic Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad (Confirmed 97MPH - Stock Merc 300X(325HP)- Driver hoser)
#2 1985 Velocity 22 Stepp “Old Style Deck” Deadrise=22 Degrees + 12" pad (Confirmed 95MPH – Stock Merc 300X(325HP)- Driver B kNo023)
#3 1976 Challenger 21 - Hull 1350lbs Deadrise=21.5 Degrees (Confirmed 90MPH - Yamaha 250HPDI Phase III (326HP) - Driver Jamescole)
#4 2007 Intimidator 21 Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad (Confirmed 85MPH - Stock Yamaha 250 Ox66 (256HP) - Driver Hydropimp911)
#5 1990 Activator 21 - Hull 1475lbs Deadrise=22 Degrees + 5 1/2" pad (Confirmed 84MPH – Stock Yamaha250 Ox66 (256HP) - Driver dnelson964)
#6 2005 Kryptonite 22 Custom - Hull 1500lbs Deadrise=23 Degrees (Confirmed 79.9MPH - Stock Merc Promax(285HP)- Driver ghost28)<o


Hey Greg. That 21 was set up with the engine bracket mounted low at the owners request, was never set up for speed. It will run 75 with a 5.7 IO. What will the Nordic run with a 5.7.</o

[Greg G]

<oHey Greg. That 21 was set up with the engine bracket mounted low at the owners request, was never set up for speed. It will run 75 with a 5.7 IO. What will the Nordic run with a 5.7.

Ahh, gotcha. I did not realize you knew the boat first hand but now I remember it was up in your neck of the woods. I know you have a lot of experience with the new Sutphens. I'm just wondering if +15mph is about right with a 300XS? I kinda think it is. Also, I believe the boat has a power jackplate with the top three water inlets plugged. The 300XS is a beast for sure as compared to a 225 Opti fishin motor. Below is what the current Sutphen owner got trying two different props.

27 Fury - 73.4
27 Mazco - 72.8


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[JamesGang]

[QUOTE=Greg G;2662647]Ahh, gotcha. I did not realize you knew the boat first hand but now I remember it was up in your neck of the woods. I know you have a lot of experience with the new Sutphens. I'm just wondering if +15mph is about right with a 300XS? I kinda think it is. Also, I believe the boat has a power jackplate with the top three water inlets plugged. The 300XS is a beast for sure as compared to a 225 Opti fishin motor. Below is what the current Sutphen owner got trying two different props.

27 Fury - 73.4
27 Mazco - 72.8

Unless its a different owner now I think its still in FL. Got the info from Rich Sutphen & Morgan Haak who was his US distributor.

[Greg G]

You are correct, the Sutphen is currently in Fort Myers, Florida. Here is a picture of the back of it with the 225.

[allstock]

[QUOTE=Greg G;2598165]Adding the Tuff 21 pad width ..........


Fastest SOB Hulls Available For Purchase New In 2014....All Boats Powered with a stock Mercury 300XS (306HP and 6400RPM Limiter)

#1 Tuff 21 kevlar hull-890lbs – 20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 7 1/2" pad (Confirmed 102.5MPH Driver Blake Sewell) (2002 Tuff 21 ran 102MPH w/300X)
#2 Bernico F2 21 standard hull-727lbs–21’4” Long, 6’3” Beam - 24 degree deadrise + 14” pad (Confirmed 98.1MPH Driver VanSteelant) (550lb s3000 385HP ran 103.1MPH)
#3 Progression 22 standard hull-948lbs – 22’1”Long, 7’8” Beam - 24 degree variable deadrise + 7" pad (Confirmed 94MPH Driver goneby)
#4 Sutphen 21 standard hull-1325lbs–20’9” Long, 7’2” Beam - 20 degree variable deadrise + 3" pad (88MPH Driver Unknown) (525I/O with heavy layup ran GPS 93.4MPH)
#5 Nordic Crossfire-21 or SR-21 standard hull-1475lbs– 21’ Long, 7’1” Beam - 18 degree deadrise + 9" pad (Confirmed 86MPH Driver wildone)
#6 Velocity 220 standard hull-1895lbs – 21’6” Long, 7’11” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 12" pad (Confirmed 84.8MPH Driver aaronmt73)


And the fastest of the no longer produced hulls....with power noted

#1 1986 Superboat 21 Classic Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad (Confirmed 97MPH -Stock Merc 300X(325HP)- Driver hoser)
#2 1985 Velocity 22 Stepp “Old Style Deck” Deadrise=22 Degrees + 12" pad (Confirmed 95MPH– Stock Merc 300X(325HP)- Driver B kNo023)
#3 1976 Challenger 21 - Hull 1350lbs Deadrise=21.5 Degrees (Confirmed 90MPH - Yamaha 250HPDI Phase III (326HP) - Driver Jamescole)
#4 2007 Intimidator 21 Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad (Confirmed 85MPH - Stock Yamaha 250 Ox66 (256HP) - Driver Hydropimp911)
#5 1990 Activator 21 - Hull 1475lbs Deadrise=22 Degrees + 5 1/2" pad (Confirmed 84MPH – Stock Yamaha250 Ox66 (256HP) - Driver dnelson964)
#6 2005 Kryptonite 22 Custom - Hull 1500lbs Deadrise=23 Degrees (Confirmed 79.9MPH - Stock Merc Promax(285HP)- Driver ghost28)<o
I haven't read through the ENTIRE post but what about the Checkmate Pulsare 21'? Randy Wildman has built many that run in the 90's, with I believe a best of 98.2 with stock 300xs power.
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[JamesGang]

I know Rich lowered that bracket from its original spot at the owners request before his engine was installed. I think thats why you see the two bolts above it. I would have left it where Rich had it. But then again I would have had a 300X on it too.

allstock - I think the thread was about SOBs that were like a class 7 style, that were worthy of some rough water running. I think otherwise Allison would be top of the list.

[RBT]

Better update the list. Tuff 21 300xs 106.2

and climbing

[Mitchie]

Better update the list. Tuff 21 300xs 106.2

and climbing

[powerabout]

is this list only vee bottoms?

[Greg G]

Better update the list. Tuff 21 300xs 106.2 ............and climbing

What will 2015 bring? Happy New Year to all you rough water V bottom SOBs ............ .


Fastest SOB Hulls Available For Purchase New In 2015....All Boats Powered with a stock Mercury 300XS (306HP and 6400RPM Limiter)


#1 Tuff 21 kevlar hull-890lbs – 20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 7 1/2" pad (Confirmed 102.5MPH Driver Blake Sewell) (Newest Tuff 21 ran 106MPH in 2014)
#2 Bernico F2 21 standard hull-727lbs–21’4” Long, 6’3” Beam - 24 degree deadrise + 14” pad (Confirmed 98.1MPH Driver VanSteelant) (550lb s3000 385HP ran 103.1MPH)
#3 Progression 22 standard hull-948lbs – 22’1”Long, 7’8” Beam - 24 degree variable deadrise + 7" pad (Confirmed 94MPH Driver goneby)
#4 Sutphen 21 standard hull-1325lbs–20’9” Long, 7’2” Beam - 20 degree variable deadrise + 3" pad (88MPH Driver Unknown) (525I/O with heavy layup ran GPS 93.4MPH)
#5 Nordic Crossfire-21 or SR-21 standard hull-1475lbs– 21’ Long, 7’1” Beam - 18 degree deadrise + 9" pad (Confirmed 86MPH Driver wildone)
#6 Velocity 220 standard hull-1895lbs – 21’6” Long, 7’11” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 12" pad (Confirmed 84.8MPH Driver aaronmt73)


And the fastest of the no longer produced hulls....with power noted

#1 1986 Superboat 21 Classic Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad (Confirmed 97MPH - Stock Merc 300X(325HP)- Driver hoser)
#2 1985 Velocity 22 Stepp “Old Style Deck” Deadrise=22 Degrees + 12" pad (Confirmed 95MPH – Stock Merc 300X(325HP)- Driver B kNo023)
#3 1976 Challenger 21 - Hull 1350lbs Deadrise=21.5 Degrees (Confirmed 90MPH - Yamaha 250HPDI Phase III (326HP) - Driver Jamescole)
#4 2007 Intimidator 21 Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad (Confirmed 85MPH - Stock Yamaha 250 Ox66 (256HP) - Driver Hydropimp911)
#5 1990 Activator 21 - Hull 1475lbs Deadrise=22 Degrees + 5 1/2" pad (Confirmed 84MPH – Stock Yamaha250 Ox66 (256HP) - Driver dnelson964)
#6 2005 Kryptonite 22 Custom - Hull 1500lbs Deadrise=23 Degrees (Confirmed 79.9MPH - Stock Merc Promax(285HP)- Driver ghost28)<o
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[Greg G]

Spring is right around the corner ..........

[FishingBen]

Dang those are some bad boats!

[Greg G]

Dang those are some bad boats!

Yes they are! Get out your checkbook and pick which one you like best. They all go well with a 300XS but no flat water allowed

[Greg G]

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Tuff may see better than 106mph before the season is out. Amazing numbers.
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Fastest SOB Hulls Available For Purchase New In 2015....All Boats Powered with a stock Mercury 300XS (306HP and 6400RPM Limiter)

#1 Tuff 21 kevlar hull-890lbs – 20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 7 1/2" pad (Confirmed 106MPH Driver Unknown)
#2 Bernico F2 21 standard hull-727lbs–21’4” Long, 6’3” Beam - 24 degree deadrise + 14” pad (Confirmed 98.1MPH Driver VanSteelant) (550lb s3000 385HP ran 103.1MPH)
#3 Progression 22 standard hull-948lbs – 22’1”Long, 7’8” Beam - 24 degree variable deadrise + 7" pad (Confirmed 94MPH Driver goneby)
#4 Sutphen 21 standard hull-1325lbs–20’9” Long, 7’2” Beam - 20 degree variable deadrise + 3" pad (88MPH Driver Unknown) (525I/O with heavy layup ran GPS 93.4MPH)
#5 Nordic Crossfire-21 or SR-21 standard hull-1475lbs– 21’ Long, 7’1” Beam - 18 degree deadrise + 9" pad (Confirmed 86MPH Driver wildone)
#6 Velocity 220 standard hull-1895lbs – 21’6” Long, 7’11” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 12" pad (Confirmed 84.8MPH Driver aaronmt73)


And the fastest of the no longer produced hulls....with power noted

#1 1986 Superboat 21 Classic Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad (Confirmed 97MPH - Stock Merc 300X(325HP)- Driver hoser)
#2 1985 Velocity 22 Stepp “Old Style Deck” Deadrise=22 Degrees + 12" pad (Confirmed 95MPH – Stock Merc 300X(325HP)- Driver B kNo023)
#3 1976 Challenger 21 - Hull 1350lbs Deadrise=21.5 Degrees (Confirmed 90MPH - Yamaha 250HPDI Phase III (326HP) - Driver Jamescole)
#4 2007 Intimidator 21 Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad (Confirmed 85MPH - Stock Yamaha 250 Ox66 (256HP) - Driver Hydropimp911)
#5 1990 Activator 21 - Hull 1475lbs Deadrise=22 Degrees + 5 1/2" pad (Confirmed 84MPH – Stock Yamaha250 Ox66 (256HP) - Driver dnelson964)
#6 2005 Kryptonite 22 Custom - Hull 1500lbs Deadrise=23 Degrees (Confirmed 79.9MPH - Stock Merc Promax(285HP)- Driver ghost28)<o

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[tux974]

Tuff may see better than 106mph before the season is out. Amazing numbers.

No surprise here! Great boats!