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01-21-2013, 07:12 PM #16
Damn, that is just Awsome!!!
you are so fortunate to be able to exchange with such a great man.
holy stuff, I'd give anything to exchange thoughts over a brief time as I would most cerntally boar him eventually, probably sooner than later, thank you so much for the contact with a true "LEGEND" fun out
most overnite successes usually take at least 10 years

Certified turd polisher,

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01-21-2013, 08:27 PM #17
This boat is in South Carolina, my friend lives in Florida. The boat was splintered by Andy Miller, if that helps.
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01-21-2013, 08:28 PM #18
Laketrash, thank you!!! Guys like you are what make this site so awesome!
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01-22-2013, 10:24 AM #19
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01-25-2013, 12:11 AM #20
Pretty Cool LT! Ron Jones Sr. and Jr. are both legends in the boat building business. I had the pleasure of sitting at Ron Jones Sr.'s table with Dave Villwock at the 1997 Gold Cup ceremony in San Diego where I also met Ron Jones Jr. At the time Phil was buying a new race hull and wanted to have Ron Jones build it but it would NOT be done in time for the race season so he went with Bergeron and turned out to be a nightmare, they didn't resin the boat right and as he took a turn in a race the deck lifted...at 2:04 min. into the video you'll see Ron Jones Sr.
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01-25-2013, 07:31 AM #21
Now thats cool
LT has a potential project involving Sr. thats off the hook but unlike me, he chooses not to blab about all his projects ; )
LT is one one of the last gurus that hasn't been run off by the punks on this site. Ask him about his visit w/Mr Arneson in the passenger seat of Howards twin turbine Skater and spraying the Golden Gate with it .I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
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01-25-2013, 08:51 AM #22
I would LOVE to read about it!!! it's great to look back on those days, actually I do believe it was 1996, Steven David was president of APBA. He now drives the Unlimited Boat OBERTO and has taken the high points championship and is heading for the hall of fame, again! I love Steven, he is truly one of the good guys! It is also great to have been able to watch the careers of drivers like Mike Webster and Jimmy Shane whom I have known since they were little kids and now they are driving Unlimited Race Boats! I truly have been blessed to have been able to take this journey with Phil, he showed me the world!
Last edited by Phil's other half...Sue.; 01-25-2013 at 08:56 AM.
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01-25-2013, 09:59 AM #23
Great information Sue - thanks.
Howard Arneson - Ken Warby - Wayne Taylor - Galen Burten and I know there are a bunch more.
Those guys are - were gurus - not me. I just take thier ideas and run.
Those guys think ahead of the box and never let an idea get by without thinking it through.
In one conversation with Ron he mentioned he built 3 33' offshore tunnel boats in 1965. He sent me the pic.

Does anybody besides me see features that were copied in later years?
I asked if he knew where one might be located and he said the all have been lost but he had the original plans which he would be glad to send me. I have never built a boat from scratch in my life let alone a 33'er. Now he has decided I should build but not that boat because he has a bunch of new ideas. The new boat will be 31'. He sent me the 1" = 1' drawings last week and he is working on the 3" = 1' set. After that he will draw up full scale frames.

He has me convinced this will be easy. Yea, right.
LT
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01-25-2013, 11:29 AM #24
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01-25-2013, 11:47 AM #25
LT it is fairly easy and with his help it would be cake with the full size drawing it is as simple as trace and cut
i am sure he will also give you the drawings for the jigs to hold it all to
i been wanting to do a skater type my self but in the 25 ft range
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01-25-2013, 03:25 PM #26
I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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01-25-2013, 04:10 PM #27
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01-25-2013, 04:56 PM #28
I bet his tanks didin't leak.
Ralph Musser
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01-25-2013, 07:08 PM #29
Gary isent ya a pm who you calling punks ?
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Replacement Fiberglass Windshields For just about every hydrostream
Fiberglass Seat Shells 18 wide high backs, 18 wide barrel backs and 23 wide big boy barrel backs

call 941-575-8914 with any questions
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01-25-2013, 07:25 PM #30
I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II




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