Great old songs

**Phil's other half...Sue.** · 12-01-2009, 12:45 AM

Wow Robby, that is something...you lived it. The Vietnam war always bothered me, it wasn't like WW2. Like you said, you could NOT trust anyone, the little kids were killers and you didn't know who they were. The mine fields alone, how many lost their life or a limb. And your right the "Deer Hunter" great movie to depict that era. How bout Hanoi Jane, and her turning her back on our troops and taking pics with the viet cong, I never liked her after that, now because she thinks she is older and wiser it oks, but it's not, she did it. As our boys and I mean boys were being slattered and killed she was takin pictures. I also think the movie the "Killing Fields" depicted that war good also. It's strange to think back and say wow that really happened, you really lived it while we all watched. This is exactly what I mean by our children will never know the reality of such a horrible war, wow got me thinkin back.

Hey Robby, GREAT TUNE!

**BUSHWACKER** · 12-01-2009, 12:59 AM

I understand your point.

Back to the music.

**Robby321** · 12-01-2009, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by Phil's other half...Sue.

Yes, I know Robby, I had CNN on all day listening about that manhunt for the F-IN POS that killed those police officers. This world is going crazy and the worst part is our children have to live their life out in a world that is not safe anymore, our children cannot live free, the way did, it's sad.

Sue, its VERY SAD. Like said, my Merc guru,..(many pix him somewhere here, S+F..(we are the same age, both kissing 60))..was a street cop to start, fresh out the massive training they do, to wear "the badge"
Then the years as a the "dude behind ya, road squad ride. Then promoted to detective, and now semi retired..Kinda. He is the "school resource officer" now, at the local HS. He LOVES the kids. And they love him..(as me too).
But he tells me stories, the young. who he has too bust at times. Latest was the famous QB, the football team star,..word got out, he was pushing drugs, out his locker. His future..is toast now, suspended. But he might learn something, and grow up. My buddy Thommy? The cop? I keep ripping him.."ya gotta nail it in the bud, ..(with respect, to "Barney, and Opeys dad...the "sheriff" )..times sure have changed..and not for the better..

**Robby321** · 12-01-2009, 01:13 AM

Heres a little ..hell dunno..but that vision ..years ago..

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**Robby321** · 12-01-2009, 01:39 AM

Damn! Chicago tossed a real..Welcome Home, Nam Vets, in 86, on my B-Day, June 13th. Like said before, thought it would be worthless. I was recording it, laying the couch. At home. Old GF calls.."lets GO!..OK....fired the Harley, and rode down. First time I saw the "moving Wall"...and I cannot find any vids of it..but heres, at the moment, what I did find...just too cool, too be among the "real"..again. I'll drag up some footage soon. SOMEone had to vid it. I have it on VHS, but to try, and drag here, not gonna go there. Had to be there.

Vietnam Veterans parade
An enthusiastic emotional "welcome home" honors those who served in America's most controversial war.
Veterans, 1986

An enthusiastic and emotional "welcome home" honors those who served in the Vietnam War. (Tribune photo by Phil Greer)

The city was expecting a maximum of 125,000 marchers in the Welcome Home parade for Vietnam veterans. An estimated 200,000 showed, cheered by nearly 500,000 spectators. The parade came 11 years after the war ended. The official route ran for less than 3 miles--starting in Olive Park, named for a Vietnam War hero, and ending in Grant Park, where Vietnam War protests once raged. But the parade lasted for nearly five hours.

About 250,000 young men and women from the Chicago area fought in the protracted struggle in southeast Asia. The names of 964 Chicagoans killed in action are engraved on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington. Those who came back alive returned to an America that would not look them in the eye. Vietnam was not only a war that did not have the wholehearted support of the country; it was the first war America lost.

For the war's opponents and supporters alike, the veterans were at first uncomfortable reminders of the futility and the humiliation of the American war effort. With the passage of time, the emotions of the era cooled, and the realization dawned that, no matter the outcome of the war, the men and women who had fought in Vietnam had sacrificed for their country."During the Vietnam War, you didn't come home with your buddies," said Tom Stack, chairman of the Chicago Vietnam Veterans Parade Committee. "You got off the plane, trashed your uniform and went home through the back alley. They are coming to this parade to reunite with the rest of America."

The march gave them a voice for their emotions. "If I was asked to write a love poem today," said Vietnam veteran and poet Steve Mason, "I don't know what I'd say, but I'd mail it to Chicago."

Loral Valley, 35, of Chicago, said, "I was with the `Hell, no, we won't go' group during the war. I participated in a lot of marches. Today, it's like a catharsis. It's a way to say I'm sorry I didn't support them then."

Sitting in a chair in Grant Park, Steve Benson, 37, of Freeport, Ill., watched with his son, Mike, as the parade came to an end. "I wanted to show my son the closeness and friendships between the veterans," Benson said, "and I wanted him to meet guys that I fought with and know what we went through. . . . I think after today, I'll be able to talk about it a little more openly with him than in the past. I feel like I have had a ton of bricks taken off me. I've cried and I wasn't alone."

**Robby321** · 12-01-2009, 01:39 AM

Damn! Chicago tossed a real..Welcome Home, Nam Vets, in 86, on my B-Day, June 13th. Like said before, thought it would be worthless. I was recording it, laying the couch. At home. Old GF calls.."lets GO!..OK....fired the Harley, and rode down. First time I saw the "moving Wall"...and I cannot find any vids of it..but heres, at the moment, what I did find...just too cool, too be among the "real"..again. I'll drag up some footage soon. SOMEone had to vid it. I have it on VHS, but to try, and drag here, not gonna go there. Had to be there.

Vietnam Veterans parade
An enthusiastic emotional "welcome home" honors those who served in America's most controversial war.
Veterans, 1986

An enthusiastic and emotional "welcome home" honors those who served in the Vietnam War. (Tribune photo by Phil Greer)

The city was expecting a maximum of 125,000 marchers in the Welcome Home parade for Vietnam veterans. An estimated 200,000 showed, cheered by nearly 500,000 spectators. The parade came 11 years after the war ended. The official route ran for less than 3 miles--starting in Olive Park, named for a Vietnam War hero, and ending in Grant Park, where Vietnam War protests once raged. But the parade lasted for nearly five hours.

About 250,000 young men and women from the Chicago area fought in the protracted struggle in southeast Asia. The names of 964 Chicagoans killed in action are engraved on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington. Those who came back alive returned to an America that would not look them in the eye. Vietnam was not only a war that did not have the wholehearted support of the country; it was the first war America lost.

For the war's opponents and supporters alike, the veterans were at first uncomfortable reminders of the futility and the humiliation of the American war effort. With the passage of time, the emotions of the era cooled, and the realization dawned that, no matter the outcome of the war, the men and women who had fought in Vietnam had sacrificed for their country."During the Vietnam War, you didn't come home with your buddies," said Tom Stack, chairman of the Chicago Vietnam Veterans Parade Committee. "You got off the plane, trashed your uniform and went home through the back alley. They are coming to this parade to reunite with the rest of America."

The march gave them a voice for their emotions. "If I was asked to write a love poem today," said Vietnam veteran and poet Steve Mason, "I don't know what I'd say, but I'd mail it to Chicago."

Loral Valley, 35, of Chicago, said, "I was with the `Hell, no, we won't go' group during the war. I participated in a lot of marches. Today, it's like a catharsis. It's a way to say I'm sorry I didn't support them then."

Sitting in a chair in Grant Park, Steve Benson, 37, of Freeport, Ill., watched with his son, Mike, as the parade came to an end. "I wanted to show my son the closeness and friendships between the veterans," Benson said, "and I wanted him to meet guys that I fought with and know what we went through. . . . I think after today, I'll be able to talk about it a little more openly with him than in the past. I feel like I have had a ton of bricks taken off me. I've cried and I wasn't alone."

**Phil's other half...Sue.** · 12-01-2009, 02:19 AM

I can't sleep, I keep thinking about what happened last night, it is really bothering me...it's very scary.

Here's a good one Robby!

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real footage...how could this war have been so cruel but had some really great music.

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Can you believe I found this...holy cow, I don't believe it.

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**Robby321** · 12-01-2009, 02:19 AM

And this here talk.."trashed your uniform and went home through the back alley.'..damn right. I trashed all my duds, and freaking war "pins", and never told a sole I was coming home. Just sent a letter to my mom, to stop writhing ..on the way back home. Dunno when. Got back the "world", soon after. Never bothered a call, for a ride home. Got that far by my own, few more miles, meaned littte to me...the plane dropping me off, O'Hare. Took a cab home..($26 bucks, 40 miles!)..banged the damn door at home, mom answered.
Got home in May, 1970, and as..(like all moms").."why didn't ya call first?, we would come get ya?"

Simply said.."mom, on my own now, and ya taught me right, from wrong'"..and I look over at the (then fake) Christmas tree.. Its still up and lite up, 4 months later, and every damn letter I ever wrote ,my mom, were under that damn tree. I can see her sitting there Knowing her kid, kid, to come home safe, I know she sit there many nights, ..thinking..looking at that tree..simply saying....the quiet time's, her. "bring my baby home" Well, I did, and she went into the "sky", a long time ago..(RIP mom). Did the best I could..and will never change.."

**Robby321** · 12-01-2009, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by Phil's other half...Sue.

I can't sleep, I keep thinking about what happened last night, it is really bothering me...it's very scary.

Here's a good one Robby!

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Kid, Lee Greenwood, is someone who see's. And a real Patriot. We need more like him.

**Robby321** · 12-01-2009, 02:48 AM

Damn!.. too quick a "trigger finger me!. Good second vid ya posted? CCR. Aint watched. the last. And the heard the only us, Nam, the one an only radio station? In Nam?..saving that for tomorrow....I am mentally "toast"..here.need a doggy walk, some fresh air.,, great grins here..seems some do understand. And ..."thanks".. means much to me...

**INXS** · 12-01-2009, 04:20 AM

Here's a Classic from Dion,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPdYV...eature=related

**JP Love** · 12-01-2009, 02:17 PM

Have a nice day again............ JP Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDtSyWQsPsU

**Robby321** · 12-01-2009, 08:18 PM

This one cracks me up, at the same time, well..do we really need this? My take is still, rather have it, and not need it, than need it, and not have it!