58 mpg Volkswagen

[Powerplay25]

Kept on hearing it on their ad. Very impressive.

http://www.thetorquereport.com/2008/...ord_at_58.html

[BADBK]

Meh. I have an '09 Jetta TDI in my driveway right now on a 24hr test drive... they're gonna be disappointed when I take it back and leave it there.

First, they must be doing something special to get those reported MPG. Not saying it gets bad MPG, but last 55 miles I drove comb city/rural 45 mph roads I avg. 29.4 MPG... not bad, but a far cry from the high 30's reported. Plus, unless you have your foot in the diesel injectors, high rpm's the thing is a 4440lb tank. Sluggish to say the least, but the DSG transmission is absolutely awesome... shifts smoothly up/down but seems to be constantly shifting trying to keep the car at a constant speed or with any hint of acceleration. Add that with a 26K price tag that doesn't come with memory seats, xenon lights, nav, or other creature comforts that a lot of cars in that range have I'm gonna pass. If you drive like gramps on the highway and so mostly hwy driving striving for ~50MPG this car is probably for you. If you are like me, impatient, and want to go somewhere when u depress the gas pedal you may want to look elsewhere.

Been car shopping for a bit now, next up is a gently used '07/'08 BMW 335i for a test drive.

[Markus]

If you are like me, impatient, and want to go somewhere when u depress the gas pedal you may want to look elsewhere.

Yep. Unless you have a big diesel engine, pressing the accelerator and waiting for the turbo to spool is like pressing the accelerator in the boat and waiting for the prop to spin to 6000 before it grips.

[mrcrsr]

i don't know about the new tdi's, but my wife's 02 jetta tdi gets 40+ mpg all the time- i took it on a trip to daytona, drove no less then 80 mph and still got 40 mpg! screw the hybrids!!!! i know the new tdi's are saddled w/ much more emissions stuff on them

[Kartracer]

Any diesel engine will take awhile to break in before it gets to it's most efficient running. A new one off of the lot is not a good mpg representative. Do some research and see what people are actually getting.

Also, it sure isn't a 4400 lb car. Try about 3200 lbs.

[mr_velocity]

If you're getting those mile and if the car doesn't get up and go when you mash the peddle there is something wrong with it. The car typically averages 44mpg.

Anyone who pays $26k for that car in today's economy needs their head examined. I called a local dealer and offered $21K on a car they had in the lot. I said "I'm buying a car today, it can be from you or someone else. $21K is my offer" He said "give me 10 minutes" Called back in 5 and said "deal". Did it all over the phone, showed up after work and drove away with the car. My car also has a DSG.

Also had an 02 (maybe on 01 can't remember but it was the 90hp model) TDI, averaged 50+ on the highway but that car was horribly slow. Don't know how they're getting over 50 in an 09 though.

[horsepower]

Meh. I have an '09 Jetta TDI in my driveway right now on a 24hr test drive... they're gonna be disappointed when I take it back and leave it there.

First, they must be doing something special to get those reported MPG. Not saying it gets bad MPG, but last 55 miles I drove comb city/rural 45 mph roads I avg. 29.4 MPG... not bad, but a far cry from the high 30's reported. Plus, unless you have your foot in the diesel injectors, high rpm's the thing is a 4440lb tank. Sluggish to say the least, but the DSG transmission is absolutely awesome... shifts smoothly up/down but seems to be constantly shifting trying to keep the car at a constant speed or with any hint of acceleration. Add that with a 26K price tag that doesn't come with memory seats, xenon lights, nav, or other creature comforts that a lot of cars in that range have I'm gonna pass. If you drive like gramps on the highway and so mostly hwy driving striving for ~50MPG this car is probably for you. If you are like me, impatient, and want to go somewhere when u depress the gas pedal you may want to look elsewhere.

Been car shopping for a bit now, next up is a gently used '07/'08 BMW 335i for a test drive.

The Jettas do suck on gas! Get a VW Passat diesel. I know for a fact that they do get in the upper 50's.

[BADBK]

I stand corrected on the weight, but returned the car today, it still "sucked" to me....

The hunt continues.

horsepower- how's the C55 search going??? Never heard back from ya. Or see what you can get an '07 BMW 335i with under 40K miles for.

[horsepower]

I stand corrected on the weight, but returned the car today, it still "sucked" to me....

The hunt continues.

horsepower- how's the C55 search going??? Never heard back from ya. Or see what you can get an '07 BMW 335i with under 40K miles for.

Saw where you bought your wifey a BMW and I thought your search was over but the C55 must be for you.

[mr_velocity]

The Jettas do suck on gas! Get a VW Passat diesel. I know for a fact that they do get in the upper 50's.

No longer available new, hopefully again soon though. The new 6 in the Toureg is supposed to be pretty good. Their diesels run forever, the rest of the car scares the crap out of me. Not sure about long term reliability of the dsg at this point either.

[BADBK]

Saw where you bought your wifey a BMW and I thought your search was over but the C55 must be for you.

Negative, didn't buy it. Went to look at it but was a POS... Still looking for something. C55/335i/??? Sporty, nice, 4 doors....

[Lockjaw]

Man I had a Jetta rental with the 2.5 gas motor, and that sucker would get down. I thought it would have been a great daily driver, my impression of it was more favorable then the camry I just had while my truck was in the shop.

I think those diesels take a while to break in, the Duramax folks were fussing about bad mileage too. And if the car is new, the ECU probably has it in break in mode anyway, so you aren't getting all its got.

Give it about 1500 miles and watch it perk up.

[mr_velocity]

Negative, didn't buy it. Went to look at it but was a POS... Still looking for something. C55/335i/??? Sporty, nice, 4 doors....

Why are you trying to compare a BMW or Benz to a Jetta Damn man, its a $20K car and not even close to being in the same class

My 09 TDI is a POS compared to my LX470 but I'd never try and compare the 2. Compare a TDI to a Corolla or a Civic or a Fusion and it does pretty well.

[mikeylarge]

i don't know about the new tdi's, but my wife's 02 jetta tdi gets 40+ mpg all the time- i took it on a trip to daytona, drove no less then 80 mph and still got 40 mpg! screw the hybrids!!!! i know the new tdi's are saddled w/ much more emissions stuff on them

My 04 vr6 with a precision 3582 on it gets 28-30 mpg at 80

[BADBK]

Why are you trying to compare a BMW or Benz to a Jetta Damn man, its a $20K car and not even close to being in the same class

My 09 TDI is a POS compared to my LX470 but I'd never try and compare the 2. Compare a TDI to a Corolla or a Civic or a Fusion and it does pretty well.

Jetta TDI MSRP was ~27K, granted brand new but for 27K you can get in a very nice gently used BMW/Merc. Agree 100% they are not in the same class though. I thought I could give up some of the extra amenities for the MPG but not soo much.