Tricks that old racers get up to after retirement

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Originally Posted by peterse90

Jackie, please expand on what you would have played different...

On another note there doesn't seem to be much info about OFF lately on S & F ??

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reason there’s not much info my lad, Cos there’s not a lot to tell.
Meeting is scheduled to run with the vintage boat club from the 15/17th inclusive—— big nosh on Friday night at “PUDDLE JUMPERS”—— Look out for the rich and Famous—- SEEBOLD—- Stickle—- Jones—- Butler— Lasse ( Maybe) —- Rich—- Roger —- the Boyds—- Odelle—- Cadillac— Gene ( if hes not snowed in )—- Mullen— Maybe Rathermell—— Summerfield Even Benny Benson might get his sorry arse down there. Might even get Old man WARBY .????
Beauty of the old farts is the fact you never know who will turn up —— Schubert Or Rotory John Or maybe Ian Toll —— Peter Unwins over there but heading down to Key West.

First competitive two liter COSWORTH Bill Brown and I put together was designed by Freddie Miles, built by Dave Burgess, ( he was building MILES MASTERS for Freddie at that time) . Was highly successful and could run comfortably with the factory boats.
On reflection , I should have stayed with him !
THE COSWORTH THREE LITRE DFV Should have had a SEEBOLD hull—- Jack D’Eath ran one at Parker same year as me. Had a KEITH Black lump in it so it was never going to finish
It did run nicely but was never in contention——- politics gave him the inboard prize but he was a hundred miles behind——- Ask Brett May about it!
Boat I have alway thought the best inboard ever was the LEMBSKE seebold V12 Jaguar engined Hull SASQUATCH——
I could go on forever but you’ll just have to nail me at the OFF meeting in Tavares!

Two weeks tomorrow and I’ll be in Tavares—- taking a little time out to chill. Been a bit nose to the grindstone lately.
Bringing a Brace of the 1907 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost’s with me—— hoping a couple of the old farts might fancy them.Attachment 451585

I will pick out a couple of the best ones——-
Turning left on the aircraft which means I get to carry forty kilos onboard !

Trying to get a trip down to Poole arranged so I can meet up with Christian Toll and see the wonderful job he’s made of KAAMA. AEROMARINE 111– DRY MARTINI.
You would think it would be easy—— but her indoors has distinct views of how much I should drive these days—- Poole is just beyond my limits, comes into the nursemaid category ?
A mere 220 mile round trip, I don’t have a problem with this—- it’s the other buggers!

Todays out—- tomorrow’s on. It’s a positive maybe.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JONESY AND RITCHIE——- Welcome to the OLD FARTS FOREVER—- no point in hiding it any longer, stand up and get counted!

Never did make it down to Poole—— series of mitigating circumstances prevented this.
Have made a tentative positive maybe for next Tuesday / Wednesday!
Best laid plans of mice and men and all that jazz.

Have four clear days without appointments to finally stitch all the rollers together.
Do have a date with the dentist for the new fangs—— been almost a year and a big bag of gold since the treatment started. I am a little wiser now though, I always thought the tooth doctor was called a dentist —-WRONG—- we have ORTHODONTIST—— HYGIENIST. Must be something to do with the amount of money they’re allowed to charge——— no such thing as a “Poor” dentist any more.
You know the island President Trump lives on !——— five will get you ten a dentist owns the island!

Big envelope from Parkinson today—— all the fixtures for the Canon and Fonda series condensed int a dozen ish sheets.
Believe there’s fifteen years history in there——- all I need is a little time to sort through the pages and start feeding them out onto the “Tricks” thread on a regular basis.
Daren't even think what will happen if I don’t get this lot just about right!!!!

Sorry pilgrim but I don’t have any time this morning to go through the fixture list—- maybe lunchtime.
Im on the roller coaster heading towards Tavares—- maybe it’ll slow down just long enough to let me off.

Yeah well, I’m still busy—- but I’ll get around to it .

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There you go pilgrim—— courtesy of David Parkinson—— the first couple of years of the Fonda races!

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Many thanks Crisis—- much appreciated, I’ll learn one day —— I’ve got some more to post today—— but only if the reception warrants it——- but I’m not posting all this information for the benefit of my health—- so we’ll see what transpires.
Maybe I should post big boobed — long legged blondes —— that would get their attention and the Attachment 451869numbers up !
On reflection, Tricks site is for all the old farts to tell what they’re up to, or used to get up to during their lifetime.

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wonder which piccy creates the most interest?

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Originally Posted by jackiewilson

Ever noticed how Lasse keeps on showing pics of OMC’S from over thirty years ago—- over and over and over and over again ?
Must be because that’s the time they ceased to exist as a competitor!
Didnt they go belly up or something?
Funny how it’s gone the full cycle—— now Mercury make the V8’s—- and get all the publicity !
Havent heard of a JOHNSON being made—- anybody out there know ?
Is there such a thing as Auntie Evinrude any more
I remember Timmy SEEBOLD running one of Veldens old motors in the USA series for Greg Jacobson—— but not for long. Did it ever win anything?—— even a heat ?
Here’ s raising a glass to Lasse—— large malt of course. Afraid I never was much of a Stella drinker!

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...understand & agree Jackie. I just keep think'in of all the work...the money...the racing...the research & development..the blood, sweat & tears...that "everyone" & their families, put into Evinrude & Johnson over the decades...and to what end? Complete Bankruptcy. Completely out of business. What a waste it all was. This is what I think of, everytime I view that stuff. Not how cool the pics are. that's just me. you can't appreciate the monumental feeling of loss of something like this, unless you have personally been through it.

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Jackie 84 and 85 so no Singapore race or was that FONDA you posted?

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Originally Posted by powerabout

Jackie 84 and 85 so Singapore race or was that FONDA you posted?

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From memory only Pilgrim—— I think the first time we raced there was ‘86—- my son Mark won the race—- JONESY led all the way to the penultimate lap but got tired—- he was in full TIGER BEER colours—- Mark was racing for BARDGROVE——- but my memory’s shot—— what do I know!
If you ever get the chance, read THE IRON FIST——- life of Carl Keikhaefer really—— when CHARLIE and Carl were friends!
Birth of the stern drive—— ???
Once went to dinner with Charlie and Anne Strang and Pruett——- he recommends the alligator—— loved a joke.
have some wonderful friends out of the OMC camp—- always loved their “Shrimp Bake”!
The cost of the Pro1 venture was simply unsustainable—— millions spent—- millions wasted—— OMC should be right up there at the top of the outboard world—- with the V8 market what it is today—- instead they’re long forgotten in the graveyard of outboards history !

Funny how we don’t see the name JOHNSON OUTBOARDS any more—- understand somebody took over the EVINRUDE OUTBOARDS brand ——- but it looks to me like the name is slowly dying.
Very rare I go to a boat show these days or even buy a boating magazine—— only time I ever see the name is on Lasse’s Facts thread——- and then it’s mostly forty year old pics from the past for the umpteenth time.
Suppose if you’re dead and buried, it does no harm to rear up and be remembered occasionally.
especially seeing as how it’s Halloween——
You do a good job Lasse—— but I’m afraid it’s like sending your last soldier standing to face the cannon wielding enemy with a longbow.
Irony of all this is the fact the F1 series for 2020 will be powered by V8 MERCURY POWER.
Guess OMC “Peaked” too early—— was all wore out long before the main battle started.

I don’t doubt for a minute I’m going to get a coating from ROTORY JOHN SHELDON—— LASSE STROM and JOHN SHUBERT at the old farts meeting in Tavares—— as long as we walk away still firm friends, I won’t mind.

Just read Lassies facts site ——- very detailed explanation of where auntie Evinrude went.Agree with you pilgrim, it’s very sad, —- but it’s the way of the world unfortunately .
There are a couple of shots of present day Evinrudes ——- thats compared to the dozen piccies of 1984 Jonrudes? And I’ve seen each one of those at least ten times ?—— all of which are well over thirty years old? Seems to be working for Lasse though.
Must post some more of the FONDA fixture lists—— there’s a lot of them —— all the way up to 1993.
England got spanked by The Springboks—— Manchester United and Southampton both lost—-it’s been chucking it down all day and looks set to be the same tomorrow.
With a bit of luck I’ll get down to see Ian Toll and the “Three Graces” next Tuesday—— week after that I’m away to the USA for a couple of weeks.
Taking a trip to Daytona to watch some vintage car racing.
Then to Tavares to see some vintage race boats and the annual OFF meeting—— catch up with a bunch of old friends and tell lies.
Going to Englewood to watch the last offshore race of this year the week after Tavares .
Should get a few days with Mark and Craig to finish off my two weeks vacation.
Dont get to see the AMERICAN side of the family much these days —- nobody’s got time anymore —- everyone is trying to make a living !
Went to the ANCHOR at Ringmer for lunch with a couple of friends—- good food—- old fashioned pub.

If I’m lucky, I’ll get a full day in the shop—— would be nice to get a couple of the rollers totally finished.
have to get the pair ready for Tavares anyway.
Might be a bit late to ship out Gary Strays and Scottie B’s before I leave!
Have just a week to get the shop in order —— then two days clearing up—no self respecting “concept concocteur” would leave a shop anything but shipshape and Bristol!

Well, the best laid plans of mice and men——- I did get a full morning in—— got the spare wheel mounted and a suitcase fitted to the running board.
Takes me a week to cobble a set of Ghost wheels—— no matter which but loose—- no way can I do a 1907 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost concept——under a month , they are numbered 1–10 —— every bit made by yours truly. No, they’re not cheap, but it’s the best push along car you could ever give to any kid,
Have thought about doing a pedal car when I get back from Tavares——- it will have to be a Rolls or a Bugatti—— problem is —— COST! I Cant see any way of fernagling one together under a a couple of grand. It’ll take me at least six months to finish it.
I have six of the rollers ready for sale—— they start at $500 ——- best one tops $850 —— only have room for two for Tavares.

Rich—— I’ll apologise now for mentioning this, but that’s it !!!
Theres this kid who just keeps on winning—— can’t drive worth a lick—— when he does it’s luck and the best car, never ability.
All his life he’s suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous fortunes—- the knockers—- the biased and the plain and simple folk who dislike colour.
In spite of all this , he managed to win five F1 world championships—— it wasn’t enough—— he still got the “lucky” tag!
Today I think the lad silenced his most vehement critics by winning his sixth world title.
Congratulations — only one more driver to pass—— then the world will HAVE to concede—— to the greatest driver of all time. LEWIS HAMILTON.

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Originally Posted by jackiewilson

From memory only Pilgrim—— I think the first time we raced there was ‘86—- my son Mark won the race—- JONESY led all the way to the penultimate lap but got tired—- he was in full TIGER BEER colours—- Mark was racing for BARDGROVE——- but my memory’s shot—— what do I know!
If you ever get the chance, read THE IRON FIST——- life of Carl Keikhaefer really—— when CHARLIE and Carl were friends!
Birth of the stern drive—— ???
Once went to dinner with Charlie and Anne Strang and Pruett——- he recommends the alligator—— loved a joke.
have some wonderful friends out of the OMC camp—- always loved their “Shrimp Bake”!
The cost of the Pro1 venture was simply unsustainable—— millions spent—- millions wasted—— OMC should be right up there at the top of the outboard world—- with the V8 market what it is today—- instead they’re long forgotten in the graveyard of outboards history !

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Love to see a photo of the tiger beer boat

Tiger Beer sometimes had two boats running at Singapore——- both painted dark blue with white logos.
was usually JONESY that ran the number one boat—— think Steve Keaton ran for them one year——— he actually won it.
Parkinson has lots of pictures, but somehow can’t manage to send them to me on the dot dot—— last fixture list he sent me was overland, via Royal Mail.
Fujimo has lots of stateside piccies, very few of the European racers, unless they were racing in the states !

Lasse stated the 1991 series of F1 races were not Fonda——- they were—- UIM had handed the F1 title back to Parky but wanted it called the World F1 Championship—— make no mistake—— it was run by Parky and Fonda.
When Pro 1 went tits up in a hucking fuge way, it left the UIM and Fraulin in a verY embarrassing situation——— the only show in town was FONDA —— what to do???
They started by making life very uncomfortable for Parkinson and Fonda !!!!
Underhand and sneaky dealings were commonplace. Unfortunately David does not want to stir up a hornets nest with the UIM—— he wants a long and happy retirement.
He has asked me not to show any of the UIM correspondence which I have been privileged to peruse, so I will honour that request.

OK, bugger it—— I have the bragging rights on this one——-/Rotterdam, Parkinson and the Fonda team organising the most watched power boat race in history——/( half a million ) —- with the highest number of entrants for a “FORMULA” 1 race———- WAS NEVER SUPERSEDED EVER BY ANYONE ANYWHERE,....... Twenty nine race parcipitants——-
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just hope I’ve got the correct piccies for the right event !
One of the problems that come with being 87+ years young but dopey!

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Originally Posted by It’s not exactlyFUJIMO

. C’mon FUJI—— surely you can do better than that !https://i.pinimg.com/originals/eb/42...da2b43997b.jpg

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best you can doFuji?

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Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF

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. Andy should have won the title that year but. Bottled it in the end—— he came up through the ranks with Mark——- gave a good account of himself—— just lacked the touch of ruthlessness required to be world champ.

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Originally Posted by jackiewilson

OK, bugger it—— I have the bragging rights on this one——-/Rotterdam, Parkinson and the Fonda team organising the most watched power boat race in history——/( half a million ) —- with the highest number of entrants for a “FORMULA” 1 race———- WAS NEVER SUPERSEDED EVER BY ANYONE ANYWHERE,....... Twenty nine race parcipitants——-
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just hope I’ve got the correct piccies for the right event !
One of the problems that come with being 87+ years young but dopey!

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what year?

Jackie

Andy Elliott was bloody fast though. He never had any real money, but was often right there at the front. When he teamed up with Gordon Sutherland he had a good year at the front and was leading Cardiff by a mile when his Burgess spat a sponson.

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Originally Posted by powerabout

what year?

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hint: it's in the first paragraph.

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Mike Mantle—— Clive Fish—- Mike Bontoft—— ( owner of DRY MARTINI )—- Christian Toll—- Owner and Restorer of KEIKHAEFER AEROMARINE 111. and more and more and more​

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Originally Posted by techteam

Jackie

Andy Elliott was bloody fast though. He never had any real money, but was often right there at the front. When he teamed up with Gordon Sutherland he had a good year at the front and was leading Cardiff by a mile when his Burgess spat a sponson.

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Agreed—— but what he did have was a great boat—- A great mechanic——(MECURY FRANCE) and an impeccable pedigree——— started in the junior ranks with a ten horsepower Mercury—— climbed steadily up through the ranks————- and JENNAU weren’t exactly penniless!

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Originally Posted by jackiewilson

Funny how we don’t see the name JOHNSON OUTBOARDS any more—- understand somebody took over the EVINRUDE OUTBOARDS brand ——- but it looks to me like the name is slowly dying.
Very rare I go to a boat show these days or even buy a boating magazine—— only time I ever see the name is on Lasse’s Facts thread——- and then it’s mostly forty year old pics from the past for the umpteenth time.
Suppose if you’re dead and buried, it does no harm to rear up and be remembered occasionally.
especially seeing as how it’s Halloween——
You do a good job Lasse—— but I’m afraid it’s like sending your last soldier standing to face the cannon wielding enemy with a longbow.
Irony of all this is the fact the F1 series for 2020 will be powered by V8 MERCURY POWER.
Guess OMC “Peaked” too early—— was all wore out long before the main battle started.

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...lol:iagree:...But Hey Jackie!, they are painting the E-Rudes black now, this should do the trick!:thumbsup: Why is that?

[QUOTE=FUJIMO;3171562]...lol:iagree:...But Hey Jackie!, they are painting the E-Rudes black now, this should do the trick!:thumbsup: Why is that?[/QUOTE.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all that !!!!
Don't let’s chortle too much FUJI—— we have PRETTY WHITE MERCURY’S these days .Lets just hope the gurus in Oshberg don’t have transgender leanings and deliver a baby shower PINK version!