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10-23-2010, 11:42 PM
speed-racer

there is NO... faster boat in the country for wat you want to do than a tunnel dek bullet ,im involved with a few of the f1 guys and run s3000s 10"mid mark4 in circuit mark 6 in topend .my no1 sponsors and mechanic is big kev from QUEENSLAND OUTBOARD RACING .we are the current australian unlimited mono champions and 2700 super sport title holders ,we ran 2nd in unlimited outboard at this years bridge to bridge ,our mission with this boat is to break bullet1s kilo record in taree ,feb 2011 at the apbas kilo trials and bullet1s unlimited mono record at the bridge next yr ,there is no true unlimited monos running in oz at the moment so ive set up an f1 boat to run f2 in next yrs series to race curcuit ,the push for a new class to run with 15"mids fatboxes and unlimited powerheads on pump fuel is on at the moment ,to race in the mono series ,if your lookn to circuit race were running in yeronga on the first weekend in december ,if you want to have a look or a hitout
10-24-2010, 07:10 AM
shayne2

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Originally Posted by speed-racer

a light 5.2mtr boat is around 180kgs ,the new chance race boat is based on a stretched 1800 open deck and infused with the latest in infused technicues foam transim and it weighd 150kgs b4 the cell went in ,they have been adding weight to tryn get the boat to sit properly around 35kgs so far .so going so light is not always the best way to go ,my boat is 5.2 mts long and fully rigged without me weighs 500kgs!!wat are you lookn to do ski race or circuit or bridge to bridge ,also are you going to run a fat box or ssm?

It is interesting you say the 1800 has been adding weight to get it to sit properly. The Full light weight carbon Cyclone 20 the owner had befor I built him his new Cyclone 20 F2 complained of the same thing, to light handels like ****. (I built his boat out of the same Cyclone 20 moulds with permision from Cyclone, long story)
The new F2 i Built him is exactly the same weight maybe a fraction lighter and handels like a dream, particuarly in full off shore racing conditions. I put alot of effort into CG placement and making the as built boat CG and weight within 5mm and 2kg of what I wanted. There was also a huge effort in the design of tankage and hardware to concerntrat mass around the CG to minimise the moments of inertia. This was one of the big problems with the original carbon boat, all the weight at the ends of the boat.
Any way I'm babling, so a 100kg bout would still be considered light in circut racing terms, I was led to beleve all the old light weight bullet TDs were around 100kg. I guess you cant belive all the stories you here.

Ski race and circut race are the 2 main activities I'm looking at. Would be looking at fat boxes to start with until funds alow for nice underwater gear.
10-24-2010, 11:06 AM
ess15

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Originally Posted by speed-racer

there is NO... faster boat in the country for wat you want to do than a tunnel dek bullet ,im involved with a few of the f1 guys and run s3000s 10"mid mark4 in circuit mark 6 in topend .my no1 sponsors and mechanic is big kev from QUEENSLAND OUTBOARD RACING .we are the current australian unlimited mono champions and 2700 super sport title holders ,we ran 2nd in unlimited outboard at this years bridge to bridge ,our mission with this boat is to break bullet1s kilo record in taree ,feb 2011 at the apbas kilo trials and bullet1s unlimited mono record at the bridge next yr ,there is no true unlimited monos running in oz at the moment so ive set up an f1 boat to run f2 in next yrs series to race curcuit ,the push for a new class to run with 15"mids fatboxes and unlimited powerheads on pump fuel is on at the moment ,to race in the mono series ,if your lookn to circuit race were running in yeronga on the first weekend in december ,if you want to have a look or a hitout

Thanks for all the info, Ive heard of Kev Qld Outboard, I work with Ryan at Coast Outboard and Marine (the old Wilson's Outboard Service),
That new class your talking about would suit my setup perfectly, as mines a 15inch mid, sporty and pump fuel.
Ile definately come out for a look at yeronga, also what about the bundy thunder isn't that on soon aswell?
Have you got any footage of your rig in action? 115mph That's seriously quick, I thought my old setup at 96mph was quick! And that was in a nice cushy and forgiving 1850!

Sam.
10-25-2010, 01:30 AM
speed-racer

bundy thunder is on in 2 weekends ,5th 6th 7th nov,were running up there in unlimited outboard and unlimited mono ,be running against f1s, f2s ,1750s ,tennessee tunneldek ,chance raceboat ,1700 tunneldek ,how long is your boat and wat size eng are you running?to race a 2.5lt you must be longer than 5mts .be putting some footage of my boat runnin at the windsor spectacular last month on youtube soon as i get it ,should be the next few days ,none of my speed claims have any gst on them !! guaranteed !!im spinning a 4 blade 16 1/2 dewald f1 prop @9300rpm = 115mph on the gps no guestimates.
10-25-2010, 05:32 PM
ess15

2.5 S3000 on a 1850 bullet, until I find a lighter more suitable circuit/river boat. Thinking a lab, although we have an old exrace lightweight matra missile at the shop. I'm thinking of putting the S3 on it when i have time. I think its 18ft not sure will have to measure it.
10-26-2010, 01:39 AM
speed-racer

stick to the bullet ,labs no good in circuit ,matras to dangerous with that much power ,you will be spinning out all the time ,an 1850 normal weight boat will drive over the top of the chop you may want to widen the plank to 275mm it will still run alright as it is .wats the deal with the s3000?ported /stock?do you know how to tell the difference between an s3000 and a 280?if it is an s3000 you will have to change the starter and flywheel to right hand as it will spin left .
10-26-2010, 04:08 AM
gmjim

whats the story on the missile being dangerous/spinning out?
10-27-2010, 12:31 AM
ess15

I picked the S3000 yesterday off Chris Fairchild an F1 driver here in the US, it was his backup engine, unmolested original S3, with pump fuel heads, we changed out the flywheel,starter and Timing arm linkage, he also remapped an A6 curve for me to run slighter richer to suit my boat, not running with SVS slidefront intake, running it with the horn on the front until I want to race it. Also Grabbed a new exhaust tuner off him and plate to suit my mid while I was there. Im pumped should be a good rig!

So the Labs no good in the tight stuff you reckon.. Ive never driven one, always wanted one though. The 1850 is a great boat and awesome through rough stuff, Its built to social ski weight which when we had it built they told me it was arund 350kg. Stil not the best in the tight corners though. Ile see how she goes with the new powerhead should be a big change going from the 225x promax we use to run on it.
10-27-2010, 02:42 AM
speed-racer

im running an sst 120 powerhead on my f2 boat that i got of chris ,the s3000 should be a good engine ,test the leakdown on it when you get it back n set the ddt setting on the ecu at 106 n leave it there ,anything you need to know just call kev at qld outboard 0755937668,just piked up my new s3000 2day but thats setup to run on meth,kilo engine !never been started ,the ultimate outboard engine ,#uckn awesome!!!!wat sort of $$$ 4 your eng?
10-27-2010, 04:33 AM
olmo40

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Originally Posted by gmjim

whats the story on the missile being dangerous/spinning out?

From my time in OZ they were a poorly built boat that turned on their nose IE the spin out .Have any of you guys thought about importing a STV with a 300 OpitMax
propped up you will get near 115mph .???
10-27-2010, 05:49 AM
speed-racer

jon tsouconis has the moulds for the stvs over here ,hey olmo, woodsy just built my new motor ,you were freinds with neil wernt you?kilos are on here in taree in feb ,im after kens record
10-27-2010, 06:00 AM
gmjim

I never knew that! I was considering one too. I will cross that one off the list. Cheers Olmo40!!!
10-27-2010, 06:03 AM
gmjim

So any idea on the costs involved in importing a boat from the states? Where would i go to enquire about such a thing??
10-27-2010, 12:08 PM
ess15

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Originally Posted by speed-racer

im running an sst 120 powerhead on my f2 boat that i got of chris ,the s3000 should be a good engine ,test the leakdown on it when you get it back n set the ddt setting on the ecu at 106 n leave it there ,anything you need to know just call kev at qld outboard 0755937668,just piked up my new s3000 2day but thats setup to run on meth,kilo engine !never been started ,the ultimate outboard engine ,#uckn awesome!!!!wat sort of $$$ 4 your eng?

Yeah Chris is a huge wheeler and dealer.. I couldn't believe his shed and how many racepheads and wicked stuff he had in his garage, plus 4 tunnel boats! I was in heaven!
We were like swimming through all his powerheads trying to get to the one he had set aside for me, all topshelf gear I'd say hed have nearly ten race donks there plus 280's 300x etc.
10-27-2010, 05:19 PM
jcf1

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Originally Posted by olmo40

From my time in OZ they were a poorly built boat that turned on their nose IE the spin out .Have any of you guys thought about importing a STV with a 300 OpitMax
propped up you will get near 115mph .???

I imported a stv to aus back in the early 90,s cant remember what it cost but i think it was about 10k including duties. the way the dollar is at the moment it would be cheeper to import rather than build one. you could get a smoking hot fast STV including engine for the cost of building a boat only in Aus

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